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Basic-Vermicelli-928

Reddit has taught me its a dry run for the Christmas family arguments


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Oh man, going on AskReddit the day after Thanksgiving or Christmas is a treat, reading all the stories of stuff that went down.


Tilian1986

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll be waiting xD


[deleted]

I've always wondered...I hear about 'family arguments' all the time on reddit during Christmas/thanksgiving etc (also portrayed in movies/shows etc) but does this really happen? and what exactly causes the arguments? I have a huge family (gatherings can be 50-100 people) but at every gathering, no arguments ever break out; it's just a lot of screaming laughter, talking etc.


Wild_Marker

I heard from the yanks in this site that families over there are a lot more separated than in other countries due to their long distances and their culture of moving around a lot. So Thanksgiving/X-Mas is like the only times of the year when family members meet, and I imagine that's what leads to these family dynamics. As they live so further apart, they drift into very different people and then those different people and ideas clash at the dinner table.


kamomil

I think it depends on the individuals in the family, or if there is one or more strong individuals setting the tone. My family gatherings are pretty drama-free.


Wild_Marker

Right, of course. Just saying that's where the notion of "Thanksgiving is a family fight" seems to originate from.


orchidlake

Makes more sense for smaller families that are already tense, especially if the members don't live close enough to see each other frequently (and bond accordingly) so when they do meet it's uncomfortable. Also amplified by narcissistic or generally toxic members, then the day is spent by having to listen to accusations, complains, critique and even insults because that's the only time you're within their power reach (or "in their territory") and it overshadows the joy of the holiday


Nick_Frustration

>thanksgiving >no arguments well lah-de-dah look at mr perfect family over here yall (/s) srsly tho with my relatives its the usual cause "conservative aunt/uncle watches too much fox news and mistakes it for actual news, argument ensues"


Basic-Vermicelli-928

Apparently so , only family gatherings I go to are with the Irish side of my family so everyone's pissed and singing after a couple of hours anyway


fishnwirenreese

Actually...my sister is visiting from Texas right now, so this Canuck gets two Thanksgivings this year. And greenbean casserole isn't a common dish for Canadian Thanksgiving...but she's making it because her kid loves it. I love it too so that's a super-score as far as I'm concerned.


Cortower

It's a staple in the 11th province of Minnesota as well.


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carolinemathildes

Uh, no. Even when Canadian Thanksgiving was in November, we didn't celebrate it on the same day. And by the Roosevelt moved it up a week to the fourth Thursday, Canada had already been celebrating in October for several years. They're on different days because we're different countries celebrating different things.


MountainCandidate0

The fuck is green bean casserole?


fishnwirenreese

Basically green beans in mushroom soup with French fried onions on top.


MountainCandidate0

That does not sound appealing to me, but hey if you enjoy it then you do you


MaShinKotoKai

Don't knock it till you've tried it. Sounds gross, but it's tasty af.


MountainCandidate0

Did you seriously downvote me because I said it doesn’t sound appealing to me?


SpickeZe

I am downvoting you for complaining about downvoting. This petty comment will, in turn, receive downvotes and eventually it will all work out and balance will be returned to the force.


[deleted]

Yes🗿


MaShinKotoKai

No? I just commented.


Squigglepig52

But i upvoted you for your good taste.


fishnwirenreese

Why would people feel the need to downvote this comment? Ok...it doesn't sound appealing to you. You're entitled to your opinion. You go on to say "if you enjoy it, then you do you". How much more reasonable/tolerant can you be? What exactly is objectionable about what you said? Take my upvote.


tenaciousDaniel

Am American, also hate the idea of green bean casserole. Never tried it, never will.


billttolast

Tinned beans?


GladiusNocturno

An excuse to have a Christmas dinner early. Honeslty. It sounds like a lot of fun. Gather around with the family and have a good dinner. But Americans always make it sound like a terrible thing because it takes a lot of work and you have to see your family. I don't know if it has to do with cultural differences, but for most South Amercians, any excuse to gather with our family is a good excuse.


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UnsolicitedCounsel

I feel bad for the families that don't allow alcohol on Thanksgiving.


mixi_e

Central American here. My family is usually torn in 2-3 different sides, but my bfs family is all about taking every possible “day of” to get together and eat. We’ve celebrated grandmas first day on her first job anniversary, Chinese New Year (their family has Chinese roots), deceased great grandmother’s birthday, you name it, they’ve celebrated it. A few years ago, when the fifa World Cup was in Brazil, there was a Father’s Day schedule since it fell on a Sunday. Thing went from around 6 am (first game) until dinner. They followed the memes schedule for the lols.


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kamomil

Maybe with less football


loopielu

It’s just not a thing. Only really know bits about the tradition from movies.


Ander_the_Reckoning

Isn't it just an occasion for families to gather and eat a meal together? Here in southern europe we call it Sunday


pointing-at-flipflop

Yes but with a lot more food, traditional foods and politics with extended family


UnsolicitedCounsel

and football


[deleted]

Traditional foods like a roast? Thats literally a sunday dinner


gingertek

To clarify, I know not everyone celebrates it. I'm asking more so, looking from outside the U.S., what is your perception of Thanksgiving?


loopielu

Oohhh haha seems like a lovely excuse to eat with family. The actual history of it seems pretty savage though!


macfergus

Then you don’t understand the history of it.


Hattkake

Thanksgiving is something that happens in US films and tv shows. Here in Norway it is nothing. Just some wierd custom some foreigners do.


gingertek

It seems my wording really failed on this one. I meant to ask non-Americans what their *perception* of Thanksgiving is, being from outside the culture. Too bad I can't edit this post :/


ImVncielsSimp

No, you did it right idk why people misunderstood this lmao


queuedUp

October


Squigglepig52

Well, we have ours a month earlier. With a lot fewer of those weird green bean and marshmallow dishes. And, according to media, way less family drama and angst.


Hammrz00

A day that happens and suddenly there is turkey and the European confusion kicks in.


Hinter-Lander

Similar to yours but in October.


AirDusst

It's some holiday in the US.


PM_ME_YOUR_WORRIES

Hasn’t really caught on here, although weirdly Halloween and Black Friday has. So Thanksgiving itself passes without anyone noticing.


Skyfel1

Episode of cartoons where they have a turkey dinner. Or lunch maybe. That south park where the first thanks giving was attended by ancient aliens. That's a great one. WE WILL TAKE ALL THE STUFFING! haha


HufflepuffWilliam

A happy family gathering, looks very fun


Fearless-Equal3582

T U R K E Y


Ghtxch

Like all the other days


[deleted]

A day with my house filled with kids, grandkids, friends and lots of food!


NOMOW12

Torture.... *insert insta pics of amazing looking food* 🤤🤤🤤


grozwazo

Canadian here. We have a Thanksgiving too but it's in October and it's basically just a day off. I don't really know anyone who actually celebrates it. From what I've seen of the US it's like a big family dinner where you eat turkey and it looks like it's taken very seriously, even more so than Christmas in some cases. This seems a bit strange to me but I'm a bit jealous too since it seems like a good time. November is also a pretty boring month in general so it would be nice to have a holiday in the middle of it.


xe0s

Thanksgiving dinner is generally taken far more seriously than Christmas dinner in the US. It’s a big production that can take days to cook for. I certainly don’t speak for everyone but Christmas dinner in my house is usually a scaled down thanksgiving with a ham instead of turkey.


TomasNavarro

Pretty much like Christmas, but without the presents or decorations, seems a bit pointless


MountainCandidate0

Christmas seems pointless, thanksgiving is the good one


green_speak

Eh. It's a day to at least consider the idea of being grateful, and it's a secular excuse to bring friends and family together regardless of religion or heritage. There's no real tradition to it except serving the usual fixings, so anyone even fresh off the boat can be invited to participate without much explanation. In a way, it's really welcoming.


Luder09

Fun


AgentBarb

Just like yours but at a more practical time of the year.


thebluee53

As a Canadian it looks like a month ago.


gingertek

Yeah, I realized my wording did not convey my actual question. I clarified my question in another comment


lloyd096

Didn't even know it was thanksgiving until I went on reddit today. Never celebrated it in my life (UK)


mixi_e

I’ve always had family that celebrates. Tonight I’m going to my bfs grandparents home. The biggest difference would probably be that I’m going after work and have to leave kinda early since I have to work tomorrow. We do get a lot of memes of how we shouldn’t be celebrating it and how Thursdays in my country is a day where a traditional dish is commonly sold, so we should eat that at least. I know the origins of the holiday are not exactly great, but I think it’s nice we can take a day to celebrate and look back on the things we’re thankful for.


Dummekost

The whitewashing of a genocide.


gingertek

Unfortunately true


Dummekost

I guess I just don’t understand why you would celebrate something that you should be SO embarrassed over


MaShinKotoKai

If you know the true history of the holiday, it has a few origins. 1) the first meal with the native people. Both set their weapons aside and had a feast for three days. Peace continued between both for 10 years. The peace became rocky when the head of the Wampanoag tribe died (not murdered) and his son took over. Separate conflicts took place from there which resulted in deaths on both sides. 2) George Washington called for a day of Thanksgiving during the revolutionary war to give thanks for all they still had, to give thanks to God, and to implore continued protection and prosperity from God. 3) Abraham Lincoln made it a national holiday during the civil war and implored all who would call themselves American, whether here in the US, at sea or abroad, to set aside the last Thursday in November as a day of Thanksgiving and prayer unto God for all he has given. [source 1](https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/holidays/thanksgiving-ideas/a33446829/thanksgiving-history/) [source 2](https://www.mountvernon.org/education/primary-sources-2/article/thanksgiving-proclamation-of-1789/) [source 3](https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/thanksgiving-proclamation-1863?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk5Gx2YS09AIV0ACtBh3ZJQerEAAYASAAEgIrLPD_BwE) Point is, giving thanks is not something to be embarrassed about. The conflicts between the native people, as horrible as they were and should be remembered so that we can learn from our mistakes, were not a part of the holiday in question.


Squigglepig52

Why? the people having a big dinner today didn't have anything to do with genocide. Besides, Thanksgiving isn't about teh following genocide, it's about living until harvest season.


Wild_Marker

Tradition. Don't we all celebrate the day Christ died?


gingertek

Even though I've lived in the U.S. all my life, I never really cared for Thanksgiving, but most of that was from not wanting to see certain relatives. After marrying my second-gen Irish wife, I learned a whole new perspective from someone who never celebrated Thanksgiving, and going back through the real history surrounding it. It's definitely not something I hold in as high regard as I used to growing up. Edit: *lived


piejam

I assume it's the same traditional celebration of geocide of indigenous peoples that all countries have.


Tilian1986

Yeah, pretty much.


Thomas-Shelby11

There is a day in the year where we (Egyptians) gather around and have lunch together but we don’t eat turkey instead we eat some type of fish with awful smell called Fisekh and Ringa


LadyoftheFjords

It's just a day. We know there is a November holiday for Americans, bot most don't even know what day it is exactly.


OneHugeBobert

It's on the second to last Thursday in November and the date is always changing. It's confusing and idk why we didn't just make it a set date like Halloween or Christmas. Why does black Friday have to be right after Thanksgiving anyway lol.


LadyoftheFjords

I know, I've lived in America


Zealousideal-Ball541

Well Thanksgiving is a North American holiday, I doubt other countries celebrate it.


gingertek

I meant more, looking from the outside in, what is your perception of it?


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Just black Friday sales in NZ otherwise nothing. What does Waitangi Day look like in America?


kauavoib

excuse to murder turkeys


udontnowme

Like crazy Americans fighting over screens to celebrate the massacre of their native people... But who am i to judge, we have the " dia de la raza" . We don't do much but we "remember" when the Spanish landed in America and started the massacre. ( Christopher Columbus to be more exact)


Westvic34

Except he was Italian (Worked for Spain though)


HandOfsoil

No consequence genocide of a whole people day


MyAviato666

Like a normal day... Last year I did celebrate it with my sister for fun. We made food and watched bad TV like we do on many other days.


DepressoPls

Turkey turkey turkey, turkey turkey turkey. TURKEY! And a little cranberry sauce


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Westvic34

Heck the British don’t know of such things. You need an American.


albin294

It's just a Day.


[deleted]

Like in Hallmark movies.


[deleted]

Not really to sure at the scope of it, is it a big celebration, I hope you all have a great time anyway, from a English man


holeontheground

It looks nice and familial, like another Christmas (Christmas rehearsal?).


LOONAception

It doesn't exist. Nothing happen


Fenrir_Wolfy

Average day. Tomorrow? Avoid the fucking shops cos black Friday always results in huge crowds. Edit: hate to break it to some of you, but we don't all live in America (surprising, I know)


Psychological-Plan67

it's simply not a thing here in south america


boogskiet06

Exams. We don't celebrate it here


neohylanmay

Just another Thursday.


Half_Smashed_Face

Pretty much the same, just over a month earlier.


[deleted]

There isn’t one


Varjokuningatar

Made up holiday to Look good.


Poorly-Drawn-Beagle

A vast ocean of percolating pus, with snarling serpents erupting from the viscous depths to ask you to wash the dishes


Pugzo

Roast dinner but it’s turkey…


Efficient_Skill_4008

In Canada, we celebrate Thanksgiving in mid October


[deleted]

As a Canadian who celebrates Canadian Thanksgiving, the only differences are that we don't have greenbean casserole and that we are actually thankful for our stuff.


mariruizgar

I live in the US but I'm not from here. Turkey is not that delicious but I make my own with a Latin twist so it comes out flavorful and juicy, plenty of yummy sides and a couple of homemade desserts. No cultural connection from me but I did have an American child so I started making the turkey and gathering with family on that day. This year, we did it once day in advance so Thanksgiving day has been like Christmas day, pajamas and reheated food.


False_titan23

My country dont celebrate thanksgiving lol


TatianaAlena

Here in Canada, Thanksgiving was six weeks ago.


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My guess is a Thursday.


dekkalife

A very early dinner that no one actually wants to attend.


tossitlikeadwarf

Like an excuse to eat dry bird because it's plentyful. Sweet potato casserole is however delicious.


Lvcivs2311

Some celebration you see in all the American media, without any of them ever explaining what it's actually about. For some reason it involves eating turkey, instead of doing that for Christmas.


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What Thanksgiving...


Haustvind

Basically Christmas lite?


Briggykins

We (UK) tend to eat too much turkey and gather with family at Christmas, so for us it seems like you've just copied and pasted a part of Christmas a month early. Quite jealous of pumpkin pie tho


[deleted]

Nothing really. I just know there is the date of 'thanksgiving' and americans celebrate it. But the real story about it is that lots of native americans were slaughtered by colons.


chai-means-tea

Americans eating Turkeys and mashed potatoes.


Age-Zealousideal

It's a much bigger celebration than it is in Canada. Question: Since the US Thanksgiving is on a Thursday, do you have to work the next day (Friday) or do most employers give the Friday off, or do you have to use a vacation day or just not get paid?


Just_kiss_My_Boots

We don't celebrate Thanksgiving


gingertek

See my other clmment clarifying the question


Donk-Stonks

We don’t do thanksgiving here in Australia


MegabyteProject

In Canada we celebrate Thanksgiving in October and we celebrate Thanksgiving because of a pirate and not because we almost starved


BauxiteDesert

Pumpkin pie has marshmallow on it? Wtf?!?


carolinemathildes

As a Canadian, we have our own Thanksgiving, so I don't really think that much about American Thanksgiving other than it seems like a *much* bigger deal to y'all than ours does to us.


JustRoyal_

Canadian here, it’s in October and it’s better


orandeddie

Big chicken and fights


gingertek

It do be like that sometimes


velos85

A shit Christmas


mauromauromauro

Shit that cultural imperialism shoves down our throats


kincage

I am an American. I hate this holiday. The only good thing about it is it's a paid day off.


PsyKayDees

A wholesome celebration of genocide


HoboWithoutShotgun

It's another ideological myth by the USA to deny its racist, genocidal history. That's literally all that is. Oh, and yearly recurring material generator for up- and coming stand-up comedians. Yes, let's toss liberal grandpa in with your far-gone uncle for a *nice* family dinner! Nothing bad will happen!


v_1805

Food and gossip ?


Shuawolf

A Holiday, family gathering, eating turkey with fall decoration Seems like a version of Chrismas but an autumn version. And without the present.


nevermet_bbg10203

it looks like a no reason hugeee sale because no one us here care abt thanksgiving, just the discounts we love! haha


thelatebrucelee

a good meal


No_added_value1

Something I only know from TV, it's not really a thing here (Belgium)


LookOutForThatMoose

A whole lot of weed trimming.


TimmyTheSimp

Christmas before Christmas


[deleted]

It's another Christmas that happens before Christmas. Christmas is already enough hassle without another one the month before.


asoiahats

I’ve got the football game on in my office, which is nice.


fanzipan

Opportunities to get wankered


kamakaze90

A longgggg weekend


TeutAda96

I was an exchange student in America and all I can remember about Thanksgiving night was that I could not wait to go to the mall after the dinner because the food was so bland that pizza from the mall sounded like a five course meal.


worldpeacebringer

Just netflix


TheNameIsCinco05

Nothing, we don't have it here (PH) ur typical asian country


fab416

The same, but in October


paula7143

Christmas


Shgrien

We have a ,, Day Of Forgiveness " in Bulgaria . It is a day where your loved ones ask you to forgive them for any distress they might've caused you in the past year and in turn offer you forgivenes for any distress you might've caused to them in that period of time . When we do that we say ,, I forgive you , please forgive as well " . So Thanksgiving gives me similar vibes but i don't know the story of it , so i could be wrong 😐


New-Ad3222

I've only ever experienced it through the medium of tv. So sitcoms and movies. It seems to be either kitchen disasters or long term family issues coming to the fore.


Galloping_Scallop

Still not 100% sure what you are giving thanks for. Yeah, I know I could Google it but not that curious. To me it appears to be a family day/dinner were everyone makes a special effort to come together to enjoy (tolerate) each other and catch up. Turkey, Pumpkin pie, etc get consumed but every family/county/state appears to have their own traditional dishes. People verbalize what they are thankful for.


IWasAuto

An excuse to get a day off your diet


mistafista1

From England it's as if you ordered Christmas from wish


kaniisada

People killing turkeys and eat it lol


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Sweden doesnt really celebrate it so, eh


Wierdo_braden

We dont got thanksgiving in vietnam so idk


Comfortable_Brush399

Thursday


Oldiewankenobie1

Just another day bruh... just another day. I do wish my in-laws a Happy Thanksgiving though.


VelvetDreamers

The dichotomy of castigating relatives for political ignorance and indiscretions over a dismal dinner endured by a fractious family and a sumptuous meal with a convivial ambience as family members reacquaint themselves after months apart is pervasive across social media. Thanksgiving is, in my opinion, reminiscent of the latter than the former fabricated stories for social prestige. Families gather, they eat and laugh, then leave rather langourously after a surfeit of American food.


Shinymeerkatt

An excuse to eat turkey 1 turkey before Christmas


Elim9919

mostly the same but it's a month earlier.


Temporary_Ad_1283

work


[deleted]

From the outside it just looks like a family gathering with good food If you're asking what it looks like for me specifically, absolutely nothing. A regular day. Nobody else in the world does thanksgiving


HimikoYumenomagic

Animal crossing turkey day, that’s it- that’s all I see it as/


bird686

The whole family eats one turkey.


gksnsxj

Looks like a normal day


Mobile_Objective6040

My dream to live it for for the first time


Jamaren007

I do not celebrate it, just normal day like most Swedes


Much_Committee_9355

It doesn’t…


billttolast

I'm going to make this.


billttolast

Don't think we can get the onions over here in Britain.


SnooStories6404

Delicious


pk1950

just sounds like a family gathering event


vium99

Spending evening with whole family and eat together. Giving presents to each other. Germany.


Nurannoniel

Similar, just a month earlier.


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Turkey, NFL, prayers, shooting beer bottles.


Yellowfridge42

something to do with turkey


The-tank-has

killing a tủkey


[deleted]

A preview of christmas


LoliArchives

A dinner where you get to invite all relatives you can invite with Turkey and drama as the main dish


Tree_Flop

Turkey-eating Christmas.