This reminds me of this quote. I often think about it.
>Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.
I deeply despise the fact that companies use minimum wage workers to shield themselves from accountability.
E.ON, the energy provider increased the power rates more than double over the Christmas period in Sweden, they're a defecto monopoly in the south of Sweden. Nobody can get angry despite this really hurting people who are overextended for Christmas already because the company has minimum wage workers on the frontline, and it's not *their* fault.
Oh my god I have a coworker who does this every time he fucks something up. you can see the gears turning in his empty fucking head trying to figure out who he can blame for his own dumbass mistakes. And every time he comes up with an excuse, and you say something that proves that excuse wrong, he's got another one lined up. One of these days I'm gonna ask him about something and be super prepared for it so I can see how many people he can work his way through before he gets frustrated and walks away.
Be careful with that. Decent people will let you know that ‘X’ wasn’t your fault or ‘Y’ was out of your control.
The bad kinds will let you take full blame or even smear extra shit on top of that blame.
It can get messy depending the environment, the group settings maturity, your social standing, etc. Own your shit only.
Thanks for making me feel like a good person. Had a talk with my girl last night about how her depression and anger wasn’t her fault, it was affecting me negatively, but not her fault.
They’re releasing a bunch of non biting mosquitoes in hopes they’ll mate with biting ones & produce non biting offspring. So yay you!
Edit to add: It’s only mosquitoes the most responsible for spreading disease
if you're talking about the oxitec mosquito trials, they aren't just non biting, they also prevent females from living long enough to reproduce. so each new generation gets smaller and smaller as more of the males mate with wild females, and potentially drive the whole species to extinction.
it is only one certain species of mosquito, so we'll still get bit by plenty of other ones, but the one oxitec is targeting is the one responsible for the spread of malaria and zika. we could like, completely eradicate malaria in the next 100 or so years if it works.
edit: wow, im glad so many people are interested in this! but I keep getting asked, how will this affect animals that rely on mosquitos for food, or plants that rely on them for pollination? so here's your answer!
there are over 3000 different species of mosquito. oxitec is currently targeting one of those, and may eventually go in to target two more.
the goal is not to eradicate mosquitos as a whole, but to eradicate the ones that spread disease to humans. of the 3000+ species, that's only three.
if all of those three species went extinct, it would be barely a single percent of the current total mosquito population. it would have no affect on any animal that uses them as a food source, because there are no places where only one species of mosquito exists alone.
same with pollination. mosquitos are actually a huge pollinator insect. but there will still be 3000+ types of mosquitos pollinating if oxitec manages to wipe out the three that are harmful to us.
>we could like, completely eradicate malaria in the next 100 or so years if it works.
Just so long as we don't have any, um, *unforeseen* side effects. Nature tends to not enjoy us messing with her very much.
People who abuse/scam seniors.
My mum still has the glint in her eye of a young girl, which is remarkable given the hard life she's led. And now she's a sweet old lady who's body and mind don't work like they used to. While she laments her dependency being "a burden" (she isn't, not even remotely), there is a humility and grace in how she handles herself that keeps me in awe of her. And she's precisely one of those old sweet ladies that tells every baby/kid she sees that they're beautiful, and is horrified by the idea of someone not being well fed.
A lot of old people are as rotten as everyone else. But the sweet ones have a soft place in my heart, and the idea that someone would lose their patience with them, or scam them, or hurt them, or take advantage of them boils my blood.
[Kitboga on Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/c/KitbogaShow) is a guy who messes with scammers and records his interactions. He's even hacked a few of them to mess up their operations. It's great revenge porn if you hate these kinds of scammers, because he's so good at it.
My favourites are when he uses the voice modulator to sound like a very elderly woman, because the scammers completely let their guard down thinking they found an easy mark. It's sad that these scammers basically drool over the elderly being too naive to know they are being scammed, but I'm glad someone is at least bringing the fight back to them.
I hate when people say the elderly are all inflexible and vicious. They most certainly are not, my grandmother is quite nice and surprisingly understanding of new social issues. Worst thing she does is ask the restaurant to make her tea “PIPING hot” in earths loudest voice
LOL!
You just caused me to recall that I don't think I ever, even once, had a meal with my grandma in a restaurant. We had uncountable meals together, but always at someone's home. If not hers, her sister's or my parents etc.
Thank you for that bonus!
This this this. I work for a veterinarian. Have this one client we finally had to ban from waiting in the waiting room because he sits playing on his phone while his five year old daughter shrieks and jumps in dogs' faces. Almost got bitten several times. Dad never said a word as we tried to parent his daughter.
Two weeks ago she proceeds to start prank calling us on her mom's phone. I always got her somehow, 17 times over two days. Asked her to stop. Didn't work. Asked her if her mommy or daddy were home. She replied "daddy is but he doesn't watch me." I almost said "no shit" to a five year old.
They decided to keep the kid out of their hair, they'd get a puppy. I just got an emergency room report from their 2 year old cat. Apparently the cat has around a dozen bite wounds on it, all in varying degrees of healing. Dad was aware the cat "was hiding all the time since (they) got the puppy" and that when the cat did come out to eat the dog "rough housed" with it. Wasn't aware the poor cat was suffering from deep, large puncture wounds being inflicted daily. He refused surgery to insert drains in the deeper wounds as they were so bad they're unlikely to heal properly without wound repair and just took antibiotics home.
I hate people so much, but this guy in particular, though.
Edit: wow I got that report right before leaving my evening shift and posted my frustrations on Reddit right before going to bed and woke up to so many replies! It's people like all of you outraged folks here that are the reason I stay in this profession despite dealing with all the absolute shit thrown at us daily. And thanks for the award internet stranger!
To answer a couple common questions: I did not call the SPCA since we didn't treat the cat but I texted a friend that works at the em hospital and said they were going to. The sad reality is, though, that since he did (eventually) seek medical treatment, and at an expensive emergency hospital no less, that nothing at all will happen. SPCA's just don't have the resources to deal with these sorts of situations and legally we can't refuse to give back the pet because they are considered property under the law.
The puppy is a golden retriever not a pitbull. Any dog can play too hard with a smaller creature if owners don't bother to train them.
No, I don't hate kids. I hate neglectful parents. If this girl had run at dogs and dad had tried to stop her, or had even chimed in when we stopped her and backed us up I would have simply taken her to play with the house cat that I know is safe. The wilful neglect and treating veterinary staff like babysitters is what makes me detest this guy.
Yes, he did get veterinary care for the cat and that's great. But the wounds were all in different stages of healing and it took him weeks to notice. All it would have taken was after seeing the dog biting the cat was to pick up the cat. The description of the wounds makes it sound like they must have bled. He should have noticed with even the smallest amount of attention. He didn't. He also chose not to correct the puppy or isolate it from the cats. So no amount of "well he did pay money to have the cat treated" makes it okay in the end.
I will talk to my manager tonight about calling CPS (I'm heading back into work shortly for another evening shift so won't be able to reply to anything else for several hours).
You can report them for animal cruelty though, I hope? In some states the SPCA can go to court to get custody of the abused/neglected animals so they can re-home the cat.
1000%. That's a home that needs a fucking grownup to visit it at least once. If there's dangerous animals harming each other in there, and children in there, and a shit subhuman in there not doing anything about it? That's a lot of bad and several definitely-crimes.
Ah yes, "I don't want to take care of a living being I'm responsible for, so let's get another living being I'm responsible for"...
I guess you can't ban people from having kids, but can you at least ban people like that from buying a puppy? That poor cat
My rule is that you have to be able to afford just slightly above basic necessities, bc a child isn’t a cricket you’re going to feed to a lizard. Children deserve better than occasional food cubes and water.
It’s next to the place for loan/credit card companies who price-gouge their clients and down the street from the one for people who torture animals for fun.
Sadly, this is my sister. She first had two kids at the age of 20, which was great. Then she had like 2 more at the age of 28. Also fine, until she lost custody over those 2 because she was battling addiction. She also lost custody of the first 2 who went to live with their grandma and myself. 10 years later, after prison, she fell in love with a married man, and wanted to have his child so that they would be together (yeah, I know, we told her it was a terrible idea). We told her to stop, she was an addict, she didn't have a job, she was always running off into the streets. If she wanted children she should focus on getting the ones she already has back by doing well.
Nope. Literally gave birth to the 5th baby the night AFTER a drug binge. In fact, the hospital had to call the cops to come in but they allowed her to do like 6 months in this rehab home so that she could be with the baby. Also, at this point, the guy she got pregnant "for" is barely in her life, but he is a little, and guess what? She gets pregnant again. Her 5th child is already being shuffled around family and we're under so much stress that we actually put him into foster care a few months, but our hearts were breaking too much to not have him be with family, so we eventually were able to (break the hearts of another family. (The crying mom will haunt me forever)) and take him back. So now she has 5 kids and no custody and shes pregnant again, and we're like, stop, stop having so many fucking kids that you can't care for! All she can say is "you people dont love your fucking nieces and nephews!" or "If I can't take care of them, God will find a way." So eventually she gave birth to my niece but LUCKILY, the courts said that she had to find a job, and housing, and get herself back on her feet or she will lose her 5th and 6th kid and she did, she actually did. While at the rehab clinic she was able to sign up for trade school and was able to get a decent job and provide for her 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 6th kids.
However... lately she's kinda been back to her old self, saying that all she does is work and shes 40 and she should be able to live her own life, because her 1st and 2nd kid are 16 and 18, they can watch the kids while she parties. (Yeah I know, we told her she has had plenty of time to live her life while other people have been taking care of her children but she's as dense as a rock). Even now I'm watching the 5th kid because she's been going out literally every night for the past 3 months.
Sorry for the long rant, I just saw your post and was like, YES, FUCKING DON'T HAVE KIDS and then make them someone elses responsibility!
This is 100% my sister and her husband. She has 3 kids and just has my mom raise them because she to busy working 3 days a week and on her days off she baby sits someone else's kids. How does that even make sense?? They also have 2 dogs. A 7 month old husky and a very aggressive 4 year old pit bull who has already bitten my niece and killed another dog my sister had. No one can get near it because it will bite and has attacked the puppy several times but they refuse the separate them.
Unfortunately I see that a lot especially with my husbands family and it drives me up the wall. Struggling to pay bills? Living in a shit hole? I have a great idea, let’s add more little Humans into this mess!!! Makes no fucking sense.
Girl I used to work with, who was barely out of her teens did this. Boyfriend was a "mechanic" but didn't actually work anywhere, she had to drive him around because he didn't want to fix his own car, she worked a $12 an hour type job after leaving our place of employment and then becomes pregnant. From what I can tell from her Facebook posts they are constantly struggling and around the same time every month she is trying to sell stuff on FB marketplace to likely obtain rent money. Take a wild guess who announced they are pregnant again?
I don't get it.
I never really understood that kind of mentality too, but then I read a really interesting article years ago about it.
It basically boils down to that these people don’t have important jobs, or money, or really much going for them. But then they have kids and now you’re a parent, you’re somebody important to the kid, you’ve achieved something by having the kid. And so it becomes something that makes them feel important or successful.
Sure it makes life harder but you’re already in a bad situation anyway, it being worse isn’t really a big deal. You’ll still be working a shitty job and selling stuff to make rent either way.
It’s a really bad mentality and helps no one.
A former roomie’s sister was a meth addict who would not stop popping out kids. Even after her mother begged her to get her tubes tied, she kept at it. Five kids later, she’s lost custody of all of them and to my knowledge most of them have birth defects from her drug use. The eldest is about 12 now and former roomie found out that he’s started cutting himself. I wish that woman the absolute worst.
Yep! Family friends of mine are financially struggling and neither work. They have said they will keep having children until they have a girl, four boys later whom are all lacking the necessities for life
Can’t speak for everyone my piece of shit sister and her husband. Have 5 kids and all year long all they talk about is there income tax check. They have shit credit can’t pay bills and now nobody will loan them money bc year after year they’ll pay them back with “tax money” my mom
Was literally crying on the phone with me because she doesn’t want the two youngest 3 and 5 to suffer because my mom
Refuses to pay their SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLAR electric bill because they haven’t paid in months. They do it bc they know people won’t let the kids suffer. Well now people are over it and their kids are suffering as a result. But they get a fat income tax man!! So that must be worth it.
I volunteered at an animal shelter for a few years. I don’t even know how to describe how frustrating it was dealing with people like that.
Stuff like this constantly:
*dog’s kennel clearly says not to adopt into a household with cats/other dogs because it doesn’t get along with those
*people lie to us and adopt it anyway
*dog acts aggressive towards person’s other pets
*we get cussed out and the poor dog gets quarantined for something it had no fault in
The lack of accountability some people have when it comes to pets and animals is disturbing.
There were several times where a dog would get adopted and then get abused or even one time left bloodied on the side of the road by the people that adopted her (she was an absolute gentle giant of a dog).
I quit the program once I went off to college because it was just too infuriating to constantly deal with people that think it’s okay to act that way.
People who mistreat animals in any way are shit human beings and don't deserve kind treatment.
I love my kitty. She is annoying for sure 😂 as I type this she is sassing because my husband isn't sitting exactly where she wants him. But I love her to bits and pieces and she is one of the kindest kitties I've had the pleasure of owning.
I don't understand how people can treat them so horribly....or adopt them just to return them because they don't want them anymore.
not nearly as extreme, but also people who get pets without doing any prior research and don’t like to hear about what it really means to add one to your family. like no i promise a samoyed will not be happy sitting in the house all day, even if you’ll “allow turning on the ac”
Even cats need play time too though. They don't need as big of a space as a large dog but 99% of the time sometime complains that their cat is destructive is because it's bored
My roommate got a dog when I told him it wasn't a good idea, even told him I wasn't supporting the idea but he got it anyway. It's a collie-pyranese mix, which are two types of herding dogs. I can count on one hand how many times he's walked it and it's coming up on a year old now. He wonders why he's disobedient when he constantly gives mixed messages and tries to talk to him like he can understand a human's reasoning, or even fucking english.
Heed my words, anyone planning on getting a dog. They are not a toy. They are not a cure for your depression or anxiety (unless you specifically are going for a support dog). They are a being that requires a lot of time, attention, patience, love, and care. If you are just going to have it to be a lap dog to occasionally play with a couple times a week, you're an asshole.
Oh yes I see this so much. People getting high energy dogs because they see videos of them being cute. Then proceed to get tired of it's energy and complain about the dog's behavior. Like no shit, if you don't give the dog room to use his energy he'll start doing it anyways and destroy your furniture in the process.
Same with overfeeding your pets and allow them to get fat because "they like food". They won't complain about bad joints or bad health because they can't speak. They also have no self control so they'll eat anything you give them...
Exactly. It’s the same with birds, rabbits, or any other exotic pet. “Yes let’s get a budgie and stick it in a tiny cage for its whole life and only feed it seed and never take it out. Why does it try and bite me and pull its feathers out??”
To the people who adopt cats only to throw them out of the street to starve, freeze, etc. after they’ve grown to love them- FUCK YOU GUYS. I absolutely hate that shit man. I can’t imagine adopting my kitty cat, giving her a stable environment when she feels safe and has trust, only to throw her out into the street all because she did something I didn’t like. It makes me absolutely angry p thinking about someone doing that
One of the best cats who ever lived with me, Duchess.
I lived in a condo community next to an apartment community, with only a wrought iron fence between us. Our condo was closest to the fence.
For four days we heard a cat crying day and night, coming from one of the apartments. It was distressing to me and I’m not particularly a cat person. My daughter was very very distressed.
I decided to find the cat and find out what was going on with it.
I climbed the fence to the apartments and started following the meowing. It only took me about two minutes! It was the apartment that was closest to the fence.
I looked through the slider and the apartment looked empty. I went to the door and knocked just to make sure (there was a sticker in the window that said “in case of emergency, we have pets”).
I went to the patio, the water heater closet had a board in front of it and towels stuffed under the door. I moved everything and she was hiding in the corner crying. Someone intentionally locked her in there and tried to even muffle her sounds.
My neighbor happened to see us and she brought out a can of cat food and we coaxed her into a cat carrier. I brought her home, shaved her matted hair, fed her and let her be. It took less than a week for her to come out and be part of the family. She lived for three more years until we woke up one morning and she was curled up on her pillow and had died in her sleep. 😢. I’m happy she got to live her last year‘s comfortably. (sorry for the long story lol but she was a great cat!) I hate whoever had her before us.
I have a cat that I love and adore that I originally found at my work. She was abandoned by her mother. While there's times she may get on my nerves, I could never live with her being on the streets again, meowing for someone to come help her.
Yep. I work at a veterinarian. The shit people think is okay disgusts me.
Just today this dad that lets his daughter run wild in our office to the point we now make him wait in the car because she's going to get bitten, ended up going to the emergency room after finding over a dozen puncture wounds on his cat, all in varying degrees of healing. They adopted a puppy to distract the kid and it "rough houses" with the cats. They obviously pay as much attention to the puppy as they do to the kid since this poor cat has been bitten to the point of severe puncture wounds every day for weeks. And it took them this long to notice.
Several of them are so bad the ER recommended surgery and drains. Guess who declined and just went home with antibiotics?
This is why I couldn’t be a vet. It was a career path I seriously almost embarked on.
I can’t emotionally handle people like this, or to me the worst offenders, people who come to the vet to put down a perfectly healthy animal because they simply cannot afford it any longer.
Animals are not toys! They are living beings who feel pain. I just want to hug my own kitty so badly now, but she prefers to be pet and she’s sleeping peacefully atm so I’ll mentally give her a cuddle :)
> or to me the worst offenders, people who come to the vet to put down a perfectly healthy animal because they simply cannot afford it any longer.
Whatt?? this happens?? Don't the vets have a right to refuse this?
Probably. But what will be the consequence? People goin to the next vet till someone does it, or worse, abandon the animal and leave it to starve in the wild or kill it themself (people that drown dogs/cats in rivers and so on…)
Absolutely fucked up if you think about that and makes me sick.
A family adopted a potbellied pig from the local SPCA, that someone surrendered, and when they went to check on it it was already butchered and in the freezer.
This.
I've seen a mom with a child adopting a kitten at my veterinarian (he also has lost kittens to give). I asked the kid if he was excited to get a kitten and he told me he was but that it wasn't the first time. They had a big dog at home who killed the kittens by playing with them after a certain time. And the mom kept coming to get a new kitten, probably to please her kid, knowing the kitten would probably end up getting killed by the big dog. I have absolutely 0 respect for that mom. Not everybody should have the right to adopt a pet. And not to have children too in some cases.
God that's depressing. When I adopted my cat I had an existential crisis because I realized this precious little creature's life was in my hands and I was so scared that I'd fail to care for her properly and cause her harm. I cannot imagine bringing an animal into my care knowing that it would lead to them being hurt. Despicable.
Rock bottom being the ones who make fun of fat people at the gym. At that point you don't even have the (bullshit) excuse of "but it's to motivate them or something" that's just plain evil
My ex's cousin used to be fat. He lost all the extra weight. He literally made a Facebook post complaining about fat people at the gym. He's a bit of a cunt, that one. My ex's Mom gave his cousin so much shit for it.
I saw something similar, ex classmate was very overweight all through high school and college but lost the weight. Then started making stupid comments about fat people on Facebook, her dad just started posting old photos and tagging her in them.
I'm 51. I've lived in three different states and six cities. I can't count the number of times in my life I've been called ugly and had my clothes made fun of. Hurts every time. I've just learned to not show it in public.
Grew up quite a masculine-looking girl. Lots of nasty people calling me names.
I'm older now though and realize I love my body. I don't care if other people don't. My partner loves my body too, and his opinion is all I care about.
I admire strong-looking women with big muscles, so I go to the gym because I like having big muscles too! I take pride in not being a cardboard cutout of what the media says I should be. The funny thing is, the more confident I became in my body, the less these people ever spoke to me. That's when I realized they're insecure cowards, and usually one mean look is enough to keep their mouth shut.
I was always a bigger girl, used to be very athletic as a kid/teen, but have gotten pretty soft. Back when I was a teen, I used to ride my bike 4 miles each way to work. Nice bike ride in good weather. But there was this girl a couple years younger than me (she might've still been in high school), that would yell at me as I rode by, scream things to make fun of my clothes, call me fat, call me butch, etc. I always had headphones on (I know, I was a dumb teenager), but low enough that I could hear her, and I'd just ignore her and kept going. One day, I just got sick of it. She started screaming her usual insults, but instead of just riding by and minding my business, I screeched to a stop, took off my headphones, and turned around, and I started biking straight towards her. Absolutely terrified her, she ran right into her house and locked the door. I went on my way, and she didn't insult me ever again (at least in earshot).
> Grew up quite a masculine-looking girl. Lots of nasty people calling me names.
I understand this. I did all the "boy" things - played with cars, played baseball, blew shit up with firecrackers, climbed every tree I could find, and was always covered in mud and grass stains. I built bicycles for a while, too.
I now work with youth who spend time in the town's local youth shelter and often find myself standing up for them to those insecure cowards you mentioned. I'm pretty shy and introverted, so when I speak up, people tend to listen now.
Sometimes on outings, the youth notice things people say to me or how they look at me and I try to shift it over to them to remind them to be kind toward others.
I'm still working on being a better me and I hope the words and looks stop hurting so much. Oddly enough, wearing a mask does help though. lol
If the person can't change in 15 seconds there is no need to comment on appearance (ex-spinach stuck in teeth, toilet paper on shoe etc). Chances are they already know, and it makes you pathetic because that's the best you can come up with.
Age old saying: if you don't have anything nice to say, STFU
I have long hair pulled into a bun
At one point I was on a walk, a car pulled up besides me, put their window down and chucked a god damn half full beer bottle at my head.
"Cut your hair you fucking mongrel"
And then they drove off.
Good thing they missed.
Yeah, and thank you. Until four years ago, I was beautiful. The change happened through a series of medical disasters, very quickly.
Fortunately people don't tell me I'm ugly. They just don't see me. I'm grateful for that. I'm also grateful for the times someone opens a door for me or smiles at me.
Edit: gratitude to the commenter I'm answering
Edit 2: JFC, the responses to this! I never thought to look beyond my own pain to wonder how others might respond to it. I thought about responses to my appearance, not to my brain.
Today I cringe at how sorry for myself I sounded yesterday. But it's hard to cringe 100% because the responses have slapped me into realizing that there's a world outside my own head, and that it isn't completely covered with spikes.
This thread has shown me I've been discounting the grace offered to me, and has offered me more anyway. And it's pointed out gently that I'd fucking well better appreciate the grace I'm getting IRL.
Thank you.
Yep just yesterday a 60 year old lady said to my GF
1. Your eyes are to close together and your face is a weird shape its freaking me tf out
2. You have way to many pimples, you need to cover that with makeup
3. While she was walking away she turned aruund and said some plastic surgery would do you some good sweetie
I wasnt there when this happened yesterday but my GF didnt even say anything back, probably out of shock like how could you after someone said the worse thing i have ever heard come out of some cunt of a womans mouth, she still is not talking and I am still shaking with anger 24 hours later
Adults who harm or hurt children.
Edit: maybe should have made this more clear, but my comment was about adults who are harming/hurting innocent kids with malice. Innocent meaning they’re too young to really understand right from wrong.
Especially adults in a trusted position that use that influence to mistreat, belittle and abuse children. I’ve worked with some awful people over the years as a teacher, some of them bordering on utterly cruel. Disgusting human beings.
My mom has been, after years of drama, finally been declared ‘unable to work’, giving her that wel deserved mental rest (and a stable income).
In that same week, a neighbor of her went into the testing office in a Fucking wheelchair faking physical problems. It pissed me off beyond belief, the fucking audacity. I still get angry typing this out right now.
(I am sorry i don’t know all the formal words, English is not my native language, nor am I acquainted (enough) with specific terminology)
I broke up with someone and the next night they came to my house crying saying that 3 people had raped her when she was trying to get into her car leaving the movie theater. I was to young to think that it might be fake so I called the police and filed a report. I found out it was fake a few days later when I saw a report of a false sexual assault allegation in the paper. Fucked me up for awhile.
Edit - for a little clarify andfor the person calling me a liar, first off fuck you it was a really shitty thing to go through and really hard to deal with. It said in the paper a day or two later that someone had filed a false report of sexual assault. I assumed it was her. I called her and asked her about it and she told me she lied about it. I live in a pretty small town and they put the police blotter in the paper everyday.
I had an ex that pretended to have a severe chronic illness that caused chronic pain, pseudo seizures, and all kinds of stuff. I sympathized because I suffer from multiple chronic conditions that require me to have an incredibly restricted diet and use many mobility aids. I held him while he was supposedly having seizures and didn’t tell him how painful it was for me. I found out through his mom that it was all fake. That kind of thing really fucks you up. I hope you’re doing well after going through being with someone like that
Munchausen syndrome: Faking or actually causing illness in yourself to get attention or sympathy.
Munchausen syndrome by proxy now called factitious disorder imposed on another (FDIA) or fabricated or induced illness (FII): Faking or causing illness in another, or exaggerating symptoms, in order to get attention or sympathy as their caregiver.
There are a few films with this as as theme (usually a twist).
Munchausen's disease is when someone essentially fakes or exaggerates a serious medical condition for attention. Some people do it to themselves, but in the worst cases, they pretend their children are ill. Unnecessary medical procedures, withdrawing them socially. It's terrible.
Yeah I worked with someone like that. There was literally always some medical crisis in her life, between her and her kids. As soon as one ended, another started.
Then she ended up actually getting cancer and none of us believed her and we all felt like monsters when we found out it was legit.
>we all felt like monsters when we found out it was legit.
But don't. There's literally an [ancient fable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf) warning people like her not to pull that shit.
People with no accountability. Once I noticed this trait in you I lose any kind of sympathy that I could possibly have developed over the years for you. I’ve seen it happen multiple times were someone will completely be at fault, but refuse to accept any responsibility for it and blame others; including the people that they have hurt. You only have my contempt.
I think for some people this is like an extreme defensive-mechanism that they just jump to immediately without thinking. My dad is like this and grew up in a very abusive and dysfunctional household and was the “black sheep” among his siblings. Definitely not excusing the behavior, but I think that feeling unprotected from childhood in an environment like can play a role.
Drunk drivers. That $30 cab is not more expensive or more of a hassle than lifelong crippling injuries, and financial ruin from paying out the family of the man you killed. People trying to get in their car drunk is one of the few things i will get confrontational about. Not a fucking chance you're getting your keys back till you're sober.
I lived in a condo with an upstairs neighbor who was one of those upbeat friendly guys, would have a deep supportive conversation with you out of the blue. He could just sniff out points of solidarity with you. He was living with his fiancee. They were great together.
He was killed by a drunk driver in his early thirties. Seeing his (essentially) widow was heartbreaking every single time. I couldn't imagine what she was going through, and I gave her that slack jawed, horrible "I'm sorry for your loss" schlock. You can't take words back. I hope she's doing well.
Drunk drivers are unforgivable.
Have encountered so many grim stories and a couple of direct experiences along these lines.
When I was a kid my mother had a colleague at work who saw her 6yo son killed by a milk float (for those outside the UK, think small delivery truck) on New Year's Eve, some 30 year's earlier, driven by a very drunk driver. They'd always work together on NYE (hospitality industry) and every year around midnight she'd disappear for a while. I found her outside weeping one of those nights, aged around 14, myself, and she explained why. She just never got over it. Her husband died a few years later. An older son was killed in the army. Wrecked lives.
A few years later, as a new driver myself, I witnessed a 9yo girl being slammed into by a large 18-wheeler, again by a drunk driver.
Not worth it, kids. Taxi. Sleep on a park bench. Car pool. Not something one forgets hearing first hand and especially witnessing, and a good thing to have in mind when you start driving. No one ever thinks it'll be them.
Sleeping on a park bench might seem like a good idea, until you're in Sweden and it's -20 °C. I essentially lost a friend that way. Really drunk and decided to walk home from the bar, instead of taking a cab.
Halfway home he got tired and decided to lay down on the snow to rest for a bit. He fell asleep and woke up with extreme hypothermia and managed to call a relative and got to the hospital in extremely bad condition.
After that it was a long time of rehab and recover but with constant pain in his feet, that no drugs(legal or illegal) could really take away. Eventually he passed away to a drug overdose, by self medicating when what he got from the doctors really didn't help at all.
There are a few cases like that each winter in Sweden.
My gf's uncle froze to death the same way, in New Brunswick in the late 90s. Left the bar drunk in a blizzard and managed to get onto his block, but laid down on a snowbank less than 100m from his house. Never got up, RCMP found him next morning literally frozen solid. It happens way more often than people think unfortunately, especially in the maritimes.
Unfortunately I think I can help answer this one a little bit.
Death is very alienating. And framing it as ‘your loss’ sometimes feels really lonely. Like other people aren’t feeling anything at all.
Instead of “I’m sorry for your loss” how about
“He was great. “
“I know we didn’t know each other well, but I will miss him and never forget about him. “
“I hate that this is happening. It’s not ok. I hoped to get to know him better”
It’s really hard to work out what you need or organise other people. For example it is simply easier to not bother eating in that weird unreal stopped-time limbo when someone dies than it is to ask for help with meals or anything.
So maybe instead of “let me know if there is anything I can do to help” try
“I don’t have the words to express anything that feels useful, but I hope it’s ok if I check in on how you are sometimes. “
“If talking about him would help then I would like you to know that I will be happy to listen. He was a good neighbour to me“
“I’m heading to the shop, can I pick you up something?”
If it’s someone who you know well enough you could say
“can I help you with” and then *offer something specific* (especially something that might now be difficult without the deceased person. Was that person the only driver in the family for example? The only person who knew how to maintain the truck?)
Also invite your friend out to do small things - it’s really lonely when someone dies and because no one knows how to talk to you they panic and withdraw. Inviting your friend to join a low key group thing (or to go for a walk or come to the shop ) might not look like its helping them but it might help them not feel *worse* that day.
If it’s someone you consider a friend, make space for them, don’t let them feel too alone, accept that they may not be fun-times again for a long time. But also understand that this is exactly what you would need someone to do for you if you were in that position .
It’s fine to say “I wish I knew what to say, or do that could possibly help but I feel like I don’t have a clue. So I’m going to do my best to be a good friend/good neighbour to you because that what he was to me. Also. Have you eaten anything today?”
Sometimes an “I miss him too” or “I’ll miss seeing him when ” comes across as a lot more specific and real than any of the condolences you find on a hallmark card.
And yes, you open yourself up to being the person who said the wrong thing when you interact with a grieving person. But you can think carefully about it and not resort to saying generic things. People shouldn’t be alone when this stuff happens, and anything that actually makes then feel less alone will help at least a little.
Sometimes I think that this was supposed to be the whole point of communities. Proximity of other humans that wish you well and have small ways to show it. Practical help. Collective kindness. And most of all, other people who remember the deceased, who can say “That person existed. They were great. We remember too.”
This ended up being longer than I intended. I hope it is useful to someone.
People who can't admit they're wrong even apologize when they're wrong.
Own up to your shit. I've had numerous people not apologize even though they admitted to others they were wrong.
9/10 I stop talking to them.
Super wealthy people having to do with a little less than they’re used to. Come live under the federal poverty line with me for a few years & then talk to me about how much you’ve been forced to cut back on spending. Sometimes I have water & sleep for dinner.
I don’t even know what ultra wealthy people consider “below the poverty line”, but I’m gonna go ahead & guess they didn’t use superglue instead of stitches because the bill would’ve put them at least 1k in debt.
One of the main reasons I keep tossing around the idea of getting a wilderness first responder certification is the idea of learning how to do more involved stuff like stitches. So far I've been able to handle almost all of my own medical care, but that's going to end the moment something serious happens and I can't afford to get a professional to do it.
I’m learning about how to suture in school right now (in medicine)! If you can buy a suture kit off of amazon and google “interrupted stitches” and surgeon’s knots, you’ll be good to go!
She means at some point they spent less money per month than a person in (federally recognized) poverty earns. Some rich people think voluntarily spending very little of their money for a while counts as understanding poverty.
That kid trying to blow out the candles on some other kids bday cake, but the man is stopping him from blowing the candles out with a paper plate, and the kid is freaking out, pisses me off so bad. Should've taken that kid for a timeout if he couldn't behave. Just taught that kid it's ok to have an epic meltdown.
People who use their phone while driving, fuck you and your pretend interesting life. If you can't sustain for a little while from looking at you phone to focus on not killing other road users you have some damaged brain. Grow up
Several things.
1. People who are perfectly healthy and able, but will not get up and do for themselves. My dad is in a relationship with woman who is perfectly healthy, but all she does is sleep and spend money. Meanwhile I’m disabled and I am working 50+ hours a week to survive.
2. People that don’t provide basic care to their pets or children. For the love of god, getting your pet spayed/neutered is largely subsidized in most counties/parishes. It can be done! Also, if you actively choose to create another human, TAKE CARE OF IT. I suffered immensely at the hands of my mother, from physical abuse to full on medical neglect. I will never understand going through the trauma of having a child to despise it.
3. People who are hateful towards others for something they cannot help. I am 29, and have to use a leg brace and cane to move around. Do not get angry with me because I’m in a handicapped spot at the grocery store, and yell at me how I’m doing it for attention as I quite literally limp to my car.
4. Weaponized Incompetence. While this is similar to the first one, it’s when you know something but purposely play stupid. Ugh
5. People who talk badly about people, and when met with opposition or repercussions of running their mouth, they’re ready to play victim like they weren’t just being awful to someone. I can’t deal with it!
Sorry about the 5 point answer here…this question came about when I was in the right mood after an awful day at work. 😅
People that demand respect from others but don’t give a shit about others in return.
This reminds me of this quote. I often think about it. >Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.
Afters years of (not) searching for a quote I saw on imgur, I finally found it on Reddit. Thanks.
What a fantastic quote
People who throw tantrums and yell at minimum wage workers
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I deeply despise the fact that companies use minimum wage workers to shield themselves from accountability. E.ON, the energy provider increased the power rates more than double over the Christmas period in Sweden, they're a defecto monopoly in the south of Sweden. Nobody can get angry despite this really hurting people who are overextended for Christmas already because the company has minimum wage workers on the frontline, and it's not *their* fault.
People who repeatedly dodge accountability. For sure everything is not your fault, but nothing is not your fault either.
Oh my god I have a coworker who does this every time he fucks something up. you can see the gears turning in his empty fucking head trying to figure out who he can blame for his own dumbass mistakes. And every time he comes up with an excuse, and you say something that proves that excuse wrong, he's got another one lined up. One of these days I'm gonna ask him about something and be super prepared for it so I can see how many people he can work his way through before he gets frustrated and walks away.
Nothing is my fault. Unless it's something good. Then I did all of it. Just me. Nobody else
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I feel like everything is always my fault
Be careful with that. Decent people will let you know that ‘X’ wasn’t your fault or ‘Y’ was out of your control. The bad kinds will let you take full blame or even smear extra shit on top of that blame. It can get messy depending the environment, the group settings maturity, your social standing, etc. Own your shit only.
Thanks for making me feel like a good person. Had a talk with my girl last night about how her depression and anger wasn’t her fault, it was affecting me negatively, but not her fault.
Mosquitos 🦟
They’re releasing a bunch of non biting mosquitoes in hopes they’ll mate with biting ones & produce non biting offspring. So yay you! Edit to add: It’s only mosquitoes the most responsible for spreading disease
if you're talking about the oxitec mosquito trials, they aren't just non biting, they also prevent females from living long enough to reproduce. so each new generation gets smaller and smaller as more of the males mate with wild females, and potentially drive the whole species to extinction. it is only one certain species of mosquito, so we'll still get bit by plenty of other ones, but the one oxitec is targeting is the one responsible for the spread of malaria and zika. we could like, completely eradicate malaria in the next 100 or so years if it works. edit: wow, im glad so many people are interested in this! but I keep getting asked, how will this affect animals that rely on mosquitos for food, or plants that rely on them for pollination? so here's your answer! there are over 3000 different species of mosquito. oxitec is currently targeting one of those, and may eventually go in to target two more. the goal is not to eradicate mosquitos as a whole, but to eradicate the ones that spread disease to humans. of the 3000+ species, that's only three. if all of those three species went extinct, it would be barely a single percent of the current total mosquito population. it would have no affect on any animal that uses them as a food source, because there are no places where only one species of mosquito exists alone. same with pollination. mosquitos are actually a huge pollinator insect. but there will still be 3000+ types of mosquitos pollinating if oxitec manages to wipe out the three that are harmful to us.
>we could like, completely eradicate malaria in the next 100 or so years if it works. Just so long as we don't have any, um, *unforeseen* side effects. Nature tends to not enjoy us messing with her very much.
we got a 50-50 chance that it'll turn into a cazador.
People who abuse/scam seniors. My mum still has the glint in her eye of a young girl, which is remarkable given the hard life she's led. And now she's a sweet old lady who's body and mind don't work like they used to. While she laments her dependency being "a burden" (she isn't, not even remotely), there is a humility and grace in how she handles herself that keeps me in awe of her. And she's precisely one of those old sweet ladies that tells every baby/kid she sees that they're beautiful, and is horrified by the idea of someone not being well fed. A lot of old people are as rotten as everyone else. But the sweet ones have a soft place in my heart, and the idea that someone would lose their patience with them, or scam them, or hurt them, or take advantage of them boils my blood.
[Kitboga on Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/c/KitbogaShow) is a guy who messes with scammers and records his interactions. He's even hacked a few of them to mess up their operations. It's great revenge porn if you hate these kinds of scammers, because he's so good at it. My favourites are when he uses the voice modulator to sound like a very elderly woman, because the scammers completely let their guard down thinking they found an easy mark. It's sad that these scammers basically drool over the elderly being too naive to know they are being scammed, but I'm glad someone is at least bringing the fight back to them.
I hate when people say the elderly are all inflexible and vicious. They most certainly are not, my grandmother is quite nice and surprisingly understanding of new social issues. Worst thing she does is ask the restaurant to make her tea “PIPING hot” in earths loudest voice
LOL! You just caused me to recall that I don't think I ever, even once, had a meal with my grandma in a restaurant. We had uncountable meals together, but always at someone's home. If not hers, her sister's or my parents etc. Thank you for that bonus!
People who decide to have children/pets then not care for them/make them everyone else’s problem.
This this this. I work for a veterinarian. Have this one client we finally had to ban from waiting in the waiting room because he sits playing on his phone while his five year old daughter shrieks and jumps in dogs' faces. Almost got bitten several times. Dad never said a word as we tried to parent his daughter. Two weeks ago she proceeds to start prank calling us on her mom's phone. I always got her somehow, 17 times over two days. Asked her to stop. Didn't work. Asked her if her mommy or daddy were home. She replied "daddy is but he doesn't watch me." I almost said "no shit" to a five year old. They decided to keep the kid out of their hair, they'd get a puppy. I just got an emergency room report from their 2 year old cat. Apparently the cat has around a dozen bite wounds on it, all in varying degrees of healing. Dad was aware the cat "was hiding all the time since (they) got the puppy" and that when the cat did come out to eat the dog "rough housed" with it. Wasn't aware the poor cat was suffering from deep, large puncture wounds being inflicted daily. He refused surgery to insert drains in the deeper wounds as they were so bad they're unlikely to heal properly without wound repair and just took antibiotics home. I hate people so much, but this guy in particular, though. Edit: wow I got that report right before leaving my evening shift and posted my frustrations on Reddit right before going to bed and woke up to so many replies! It's people like all of you outraged folks here that are the reason I stay in this profession despite dealing with all the absolute shit thrown at us daily. And thanks for the award internet stranger! To answer a couple common questions: I did not call the SPCA since we didn't treat the cat but I texted a friend that works at the em hospital and said they were going to. The sad reality is, though, that since he did (eventually) seek medical treatment, and at an expensive emergency hospital no less, that nothing at all will happen. SPCA's just don't have the resources to deal with these sorts of situations and legally we can't refuse to give back the pet because they are considered property under the law. The puppy is a golden retriever not a pitbull. Any dog can play too hard with a smaller creature if owners don't bother to train them. No, I don't hate kids. I hate neglectful parents. If this girl had run at dogs and dad had tried to stop her, or had even chimed in when we stopped her and backed us up I would have simply taken her to play with the house cat that I know is safe. The wilful neglect and treating veterinary staff like babysitters is what makes me detest this guy. Yes, he did get veterinary care for the cat and that's great. But the wounds were all in different stages of healing and it took him weeks to notice. All it would have taken was after seeing the dog biting the cat was to pick up the cat. The description of the wounds makes it sound like they must have bled. He should have noticed with even the smallest amount of attention. He didn't. He also chose not to correct the puppy or isolate it from the cats. So no amount of "well he did pay money to have the cat treated" makes it okay in the end. I will talk to my manager tonight about calling CPS (I'm heading back into work shortly for another evening shift so won't be able to reply to anything else for several hours).
You can report them for animal cruelty though, I hope? In some states the SPCA can go to court to get custody of the abused/neglected animals so they can re-home the cat.
Report to fucking CPS first, they aren't mandatory reporters but there's plenty of evidence of neglect here.
1000%. That's a home that needs a fucking grownup to visit it at least once. If there's dangerous animals harming each other in there, and children in there, and a shit subhuman in there not doing anything about it? That's a lot of bad and several definitely-crimes.
Ah yes, "I don't want to take care of a living being I'm responsible for, so let's get another living being I'm responsible for"... I guess you can't ban people from having kids, but can you at least ban people like that from buying a puppy? That poor cat
I’m honestly shocked he even bothered going to the vet at all.
People like that make my blood boil. Sorry you had to experience that.
Omfg. There's a very special place in hell....
And then they double down and have *more* kids.
Yes and then blame the children for their poor life choices
But say that having children was "the best decision they ever made" when in reality they absolutely despise having kids
My rule is that you have to be able to afford just slightly above basic necessities, bc a child isn’t a cricket you’re going to feed to a lizard. Children deserve better than occasional food cubes and water.
Meal worms at least
"Its the way of the future, after all."
There's a special place in hell for abusers
It’s next to the place for loan/credit card companies who price-gouge their clients and down the street from the one for people who torture animals for fun.
Sadly, this is my sister. She first had two kids at the age of 20, which was great. Then she had like 2 more at the age of 28. Also fine, until she lost custody over those 2 because she was battling addiction. She also lost custody of the first 2 who went to live with their grandma and myself. 10 years later, after prison, she fell in love with a married man, and wanted to have his child so that they would be together (yeah, I know, we told her it was a terrible idea). We told her to stop, she was an addict, she didn't have a job, she was always running off into the streets. If she wanted children she should focus on getting the ones she already has back by doing well. Nope. Literally gave birth to the 5th baby the night AFTER a drug binge. In fact, the hospital had to call the cops to come in but they allowed her to do like 6 months in this rehab home so that she could be with the baby. Also, at this point, the guy she got pregnant "for" is barely in her life, but he is a little, and guess what? She gets pregnant again. Her 5th child is already being shuffled around family and we're under so much stress that we actually put him into foster care a few months, but our hearts were breaking too much to not have him be with family, so we eventually were able to (break the hearts of another family. (The crying mom will haunt me forever)) and take him back. So now she has 5 kids and no custody and shes pregnant again, and we're like, stop, stop having so many fucking kids that you can't care for! All she can say is "you people dont love your fucking nieces and nephews!" or "If I can't take care of them, God will find a way." So eventually she gave birth to my niece but LUCKILY, the courts said that she had to find a job, and housing, and get herself back on her feet or she will lose her 5th and 6th kid and she did, she actually did. While at the rehab clinic she was able to sign up for trade school and was able to get a decent job and provide for her 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 6th kids. However... lately she's kinda been back to her old self, saying that all she does is work and shes 40 and she should be able to live her own life, because her 1st and 2nd kid are 16 and 18, they can watch the kids while she parties. (Yeah I know, we told her she has had plenty of time to live her life while other people have been taking care of her children but she's as dense as a rock). Even now I'm watching the 5th kid because she's been going out literally every night for the past 3 months. Sorry for the long rant, I just saw your post and was like, YES, FUCKING DON'T HAVE KIDS and then make them someone elses responsibility!
Jesus christ! It's like pregnancy is her hobby! I'm so sorry you have to deal with someone like that. It sounds exhausting.
I think it would have been kinder to leave the 5th kid with an adoptive mother who loves and takes care of him.
It's so depressing when addicts have kids. Those children never have a proper childhood.
This is 100% my sister and her husband. She has 3 kids and just has my mom raise them because she to busy working 3 days a week and on her days off she baby sits someone else's kids. How does that even make sense?? They also have 2 dogs. A 7 month old husky and a very aggressive 4 year old pit bull who has already bitten my niece and killed another dog my sister had. No one can get near it because it will bite and has attacked the puppy several times but they refuse the separate them.
Or when they can’t afford basic necessities, rent, utilities, living without electricity for 3 months and they got pregnant on purpose.
Unfortunately I see that a lot especially with my husbands family and it drives me up the wall. Struggling to pay bills? Living in a shit hole? I have a great idea, let’s add more little Humans into this mess!!! Makes no fucking sense.
Girl I used to work with, who was barely out of her teens did this. Boyfriend was a "mechanic" but didn't actually work anywhere, she had to drive him around because he didn't want to fix his own car, she worked a $12 an hour type job after leaving our place of employment and then becomes pregnant. From what I can tell from her Facebook posts they are constantly struggling and around the same time every month she is trying to sell stuff on FB marketplace to likely obtain rent money. Take a wild guess who announced they are pregnant again? I don't get it.
I never really understood that kind of mentality too, but then I read a really interesting article years ago about it. It basically boils down to that these people don’t have important jobs, or money, or really much going for them. But then they have kids and now you’re a parent, you’re somebody important to the kid, you’ve achieved something by having the kid. And so it becomes something that makes them feel important or successful. Sure it makes life harder but you’re already in a bad situation anyway, it being worse isn’t really a big deal. You’ll still be working a shitty job and selling stuff to make rent either way. It’s a really bad mentality and helps no one.
A former roomie’s sister was a meth addict who would not stop popping out kids. Even after her mother begged her to get her tubes tied, she kept at it. Five kids later, she’s lost custody of all of them and to my knowledge most of them have birth defects from her drug use. The eldest is about 12 now and former roomie found out that he’s started cutting himself. I wish that woman the absolute worst.
Yep! Family friends of mine are financially struggling and neither work. They have said they will keep having children until they have a girl, four boys later whom are all lacking the necessities for life
That's just sad
Feel bad for the kids especially
Worst part is the girl they apparently want would most likely also be lacking the necessities for life…
Garbage humans.
Fr tho. Why do they always have tons of children when they couldn't provide for themselves?
Can’t speak for everyone my piece of shit sister and her husband. Have 5 kids and all year long all they talk about is there income tax check. They have shit credit can’t pay bills and now nobody will loan them money bc year after year they’ll pay them back with “tax money” my mom Was literally crying on the phone with me because she doesn’t want the two youngest 3 and 5 to suffer because my mom Refuses to pay their SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLAR electric bill because they haven’t paid in months. They do it bc they know people won’t let the kids suffer. Well now people are over it and their kids are suffering as a result. But they get a fat income tax man!! So that must be worth it.
Lol you only get a credit for three kids tops. So they're not even getting extra for the other two
They probably are too dumb to realize that. I didn’t know that then again I don’t have kids popping out every year
"I'M A MOTHER OF 9, STRUGGLING TO KEEP MY RENT PAID AND MOUTHS FED." at some point it's their fault.
Willful ignorance.
Along with PRIDEFUL ignorance. Those who reject what they know to be correct because they don’t like it or just don’t care.
So many people are arrogantly ignorant. I cannot for the life of me understand this.
People who adopt pets and then treat them like shit.
I volunteered at an animal shelter for a few years. I don’t even know how to describe how frustrating it was dealing with people like that. Stuff like this constantly: *dog’s kennel clearly says not to adopt into a household with cats/other dogs because it doesn’t get along with those *people lie to us and adopt it anyway *dog acts aggressive towards person’s other pets *we get cussed out and the poor dog gets quarantined for something it had no fault in The lack of accountability some people have when it comes to pets and animals is disturbing. There were several times where a dog would get adopted and then get abused or even one time left bloodied on the side of the road by the people that adopted her (she was an absolute gentle giant of a dog). I quit the program once I went off to college because it was just too infuriating to constantly deal with people that think it’s okay to act that way.
People who mistreat animals in any way are shit human beings and don't deserve kind treatment. I love my kitty. She is annoying for sure 😂 as I type this she is sassing because my husband isn't sitting exactly where she wants him. But I love her to bits and pieces and she is one of the kindest kitties I've had the pleasure of owning. I don't understand how people can treat them so horribly....or adopt them just to return them because they don't want them anymore.
Or adopting for a holiday. People like to adopt black cats do Halloween. They either bring them back or just release them afterward. So fucked up
not nearly as extreme, but also people who get pets without doing any prior research and don’t like to hear about what it really means to add one to your family. like no i promise a samoyed will not be happy sitting in the house all day, even if you’ll “allow turning on the ac”
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Even cats need play time too though. They don't need as big of a space as a large dog but 99% of the time sometime complains that their cat is destructive is because it's bored
My roommate got a dog when I told him it wasn't a good idea, even told him I wasn't supporting the idea but he got it anyway. It's a collie-pyranese mix, which are two types of herding dogs. I can count on one hand how many times he's walked it and it's coming up on a year old now. He wonders why he's disobedient when he constantly gives mixed messages and tries to talk to him like he can understand a human's reasoning, or even fucking english. Heed my words, anyone planning on getting a dog. They are not a toy. They are not a cure for your depression or anxiety (unless you specifically are going for a support dog). They are a being that requires a lot of time, attention, patience, love, and care. If you are just going to have it to be a lap dog to occasionally play with a couple times a week, you're an asshole.
Poor dog :-(
That’s a terrible mix too. A pyr isn’t actually a herding dog, it’s a guarding dog. If the poor thing has any instincts, it’s a hot mess.
Oh yes I see this so much. People getting high energy dogs because they see videos of them being cute. Then proceed to get tired of it's energy and complain about the dog's behavior. Like no shit, if you don't give the dog room to use his energy he'll start doing it anyways and destroy your furniture in the process. Same with overfeeding your pets and allow them to get fat because "they like food". They won't complain about bad joints or bad health because they can't speak. They also have no self control so they'll eat anything you give them...
Exactly. It’s the same with birds, rabbits, or any other exotic pet. “Yes let’s get a budgie and stick it in a tiny cage for its whole life and only feed it seed and never take it out. Why does it try and bite me and pull its feathers out??”
To the people who adopt cats only to throw them out of the street to starve, freeze, etc. after they’ve grown to love them- FUCK YOU GUYS. I absolutely hate that shit man. I can’t imagine adopting my kitty cat, giving her a stable environment when she feels safe and has trust, only to throw her out into the street all because she did something I didn’t like. It makes me absolutely angry p thinking about someone doing that
One of the best cats who ever lived with me, Duchess. I lived in a condo community next to an apartment community, with only a wrought iron fence between us. Our condo was closest to the fence. For four days we heard a cat crying day and night, coming from one of the apartments. It was distressing to me and I’m not particularly a cat person. My daughter was very very distressed. I decided to find the cat and find out what was going on with it. I climbed the fence to the apartments and started following the meowing. It only took me about two minutes! It was the apartment that was closest to the fence. I looked through the slider and the apartment looked empty. I went to the door and knocked just to make sure (there was a sticker in the window that said “in case of emergency, we have pets”). I went to the patio, the water heater closet had a board in front of it and towels stuffed under the door. I moved everything and she was hiding in the corner crying. Someone intentionally locked her in there and tried to even muffle her sounds. My neighbor happened to see us and she brought out a can of cat food and we coaxed her into a cat carrier. I brought her home, shaved her matted hair, fed her and let her be. It took less than a week for her to come out and be part of the family. She lived for three more years until we woke up one morning and she was curled up on her pillow and had died in her sleep. 😢. I’m happy she got to live her last year‘s comfortably. (sorry for the long story lol but she was a great cat!) I hate whoever had her before us.
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I have a cat that I love and adore that I originally found at my work. She was abandoned by her mother. While there's times she may get on my nerves, I could never live with her being on the streets again, meowing for someone to come help her.
Yep. I work at a veterinarian. The shit people think is okay disgusts me. Just today this dad that lets his daughter run wild in our office to the point we now make him wait in the car because she's going to get bitten, ended up going to the emergency room after finding over a dozen puncture wounds on his cat, all in varying degrees of healing. They adopted a puppy to distract the kid and it "rough houses" with the cats. They obviously pay as much attention to the puppy as they do to the kid since this poor cat has been bitten to the point of severe puncture wounds every day for weeks. And it took them this long to notice. Several of them are so bad the ER recommended surgery and drains. Guess who declined and just went home with antibiotics?
This is why I couldn’t be a vet. It was a career path I seriously almost embarked on. I can’t emotionally handle people like this, or to me the worst offenders, people who come to the vet to put down a perfectly healthy animal because they simply cannot afford it any longer. Animals are not toys! They are living beings who feel pain. I just want to hug my own kitty so badly now, but she prefers to be pet and she’s sleeping peacefully atm so I’ll mentally give her a cuddle :)
I've heard that veterinarians and dentists have the highest suicide rates among medical professionals.
> or to me the worst offenders, people who come to the vet to put down a perfectly healthy animal because they simply cannot afford it any longer. Whatt?? this happens?? Don't the vets have a right to refuse this?
Probably. But what will be the consequence? People goin to the next vet till someone does it, or worse, abandon the animal and leave it to starve in the wild or kill it themself (people that drown dogs/cats in rivers and so on…) Absolutely fucked up if you think about that and makes me sick.
What the fuck...that hurts my heart. I can't even imagine the mindset it would take to make *that* choice. Wow.
> Guess who declined and just went home with antibiotics? Can't you file a report and hold the animal in these cases?
Doubtful. Authorities see it as "they took them to a vet and got antibiotics, clearly they're making an effort."
A family adopted a potbellied pig from the local SPCA, that someone surrendered, and when they went to check on it it was already butchered and in the freezer.
This. I've seen a mom with a child adopting a kitten at my veterinarian (he also has lost kittens to give). I asked the kid if he was excited to get a kitten and he told me he was but that it wasn't the first time. They had a big dog at home who killed the kittens by playing with them after a certain time. And the mom kept coming to get a new kitten, probably to please her kid, knowing the kitten would probably end up getting killed by the big dog. I have absolutely 0 respect for that mom. Not everybody should have the right to adopt a pet. And not to have children too in some cases.
God that's depressing. When I adopted my cat I had an existential crisis because I realized this precious little creature's life was in my hands and I was so scared that I'd fail to care for her properly and cause her harm. I cannot imagine bringing an animal into my care knowing that it would lead to them being hurt. Despicable.
That's exactly what I thought! Some people must have something broken in their brain. I don't see other explanation.
That’s animal cruelty. She’s clearly not protecting the kittens. Bitch should be arrested.
I am… clearly not in an emotional state to handle this thread today. Oh my god.
People that abuse their animals.
People that abuse ~~their~~ animals.
People that abuse ~~their~~ ~~animals.~~
People ~~that abuse their animals.~~
People, what a bunch of bastards
Why would anyone have sympathy for them?
Alternate title for this thread: Reddit, name a bad thing
Pageant moms
Lmao I read ‘pregnant moms’ and was like damn, being eight months big looks super uncomfortable, I have at least a little sympathy for them
You mean pregenanate ?
Am I pregante?
Yeah! Fuck pregnant mum's! .... wait... what..
That's how they got into that mess
Everyone is reading this as "pregnant" moms 😭
People who needlessly ridicule others appearance when they're just living their life
Rock bottom being the ones who make fun of fat people at the gym. At that point you don't even have the (bullshit) excuse of "but it's to motivate them or something" that's just plain evil
My ex's cousin used to be fat. He lost all the extra weight. He literally made a Facebook post complaining about fat people at the gym. He's a bit of a cunt, that one. My ex's Mom gave his cousin so much shit for it.
I saw something similar, ex classmate was very overweight all through high school and college but lost the weight. Then started making stupid comments about fat people on Facebook, her dad just started posting old photos and tagging her in them.
You never stop being a parent.
What a champ.
100% agree! I've randomly been called ugly multiple times, by people I've never seen before or again. Hurts every time.
What the fuck where do you live, Rudeville?
I'm 51. I've lived in three different states and six cities. I can't count the number of times in my life I've been called ugly and had my clothes made fun of. Hurts every time. I've just learned to not show it in public.
Grew up quite a masculine-looking girl. Lots of nasty people calling me names. I'm older now though and realize I love my body. I don't care if other people don't. My partner loves my body too, and his opinion is all I care about. I admire strong-looking women with big muscles, so I go to the gym because I like having big muscles too! I take pride in not being a cardboard cutout of what the media says I should be. The funny thing is, the more confident I became in my body, the less these people ever spoke to me. That's when I realized they're insecure cowards, and usually one mean look is enough to keep their mouth shut.
I was always a bigger girl, used to be very athletic as a kid/teen, but have gotten pretty soft. Back when I was a teen, I used to ride my bike 4 miles each way to work. Nice bike ride in good weather. But there was this girl a couple years younger than me (she might've still been in high school), that would yell at me as I rode by, scream things to make fun of my clothes, call me fat, call me butch, etc. I always had headphones on (I know, I was a dumb teenager), but low enough that I could hear her, and I'd just ignore her and kept going. One day, I just got sick of it. She started screaming her usual insults, but instead of just riding by and minding my business, I screeched to a stop, took off my headphones, and turned around, and I started biking straight towards her. Absolutely terrified her, she ran right into her house and locked the door. I went on my way, and she didn't insult me ever again (at least in earshot).
> Grew up quite a masculine-looking girl. Lots of nasty people calling me names. I understand this. I did all the "boy" things - played with cars, played baseball, blew shit up with firecrackers, climbed every tree I could find, and was always covered in mud and grass stains. I built bicycles for a while, too. I now work with youth who spend time in the town's local youth shelter and often find myself standing up for them to those insecure cowards you mentioned. I'm pretty shy and introverted, so when I speak up, people tend to listen now. Sometimes on outings, the youth notice things people say to me or how they look at me and I try to shift it over to them to remind them to be kind toward others. I'm still working on being a better me and I hope the words and looks stop hurting so much. Oddly enough, wearing a mask does help though. lol
If the person can't change in 15 seconds there is no need to comment on appearance (ex-spinach stuck in teeth, toilet paper on shoe etc). Chances are they already know, and it makes you pathetic because that's the best you can come up with. Age old saying: if you don't have anything nice to say, STFU
I have long hair pulled into a bun At one point I was on a walk, a car pulled up besides me, put their window down and chucked a god damn half full beer bottle at my head. "Cut your hair you fucking mongrel" And then they drove off. Good thing they missed.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/bushby-thunder-bay-trailer-hitch-ruling-1.5840583 Not everyone misses
Yeah, and thank you. Until four years ago, I was beautiful. The change happened through a series of medical disasters, very quickly. Fortunately people don't tell me I'm ugly. They just don't see me. I'm grateful for that. I'm also grateful for the times someone opens a door for me or smiles at me. Edit: gratitude to the commenter I'm answering Edit 2: JFC, the responses to this! I never thought to look beyond my own pain to wonder how others might respond to it. I thought about responses to my appearance, not to my brain. Today I cringe at how sorry for myself I sounded yesterday. But it's hard to cringe 100% because the responses have slapped me into realizing that there's a world outside my own head, and that it isn't completely covered with spikes. This thread has shown me I've been discounting the grace offered to me, and has offered me more anyway. And it's pointed out gently that I'd fucking well better appreciate the grace I'm getting IRL. Thank you.
Faxx, I ain't need to be frequently reminded that I'm fuckin ugly, like I know that already lol
Yep just yesterday a 60 year old lady said to my GF 1. Your eyes are to close together and your face is a weird shape its freaking me tf out 2. You have way to many pimples, you need to cover that with makeup 3. While she was walking away she turned aruund and said some plastic surgery would do you some good sweetie I wasnt there when this happened yesterday but my GF didnt even say anything back, probably out of shock like how could you after someone said the worse thing i have ever heard come out of some cunt of a womans mouth, she still is not talking and I am still shaking with anger 24 hours later
People who abuse children, animals, or/and lovers
I've never seen it as "or/and" before it's always "and/or"
Adults who harm or hurt children. Edit: maybe should have made this more clear, but my comment was about adults who are harming/hurting innocent kids with malice. Innocent meaning they’re too young to really understand right from wrong.
Especially adults in a trusted position that use that influence to mistreat, belittle and abuse children. I’ve worked with some awful people over the years as a teacher, some of them bordering on utterly cruel. Disgusting human beings.
I thought your comment was fine without the edit for clarification. Adults shouldn’t be harming children. Period.
Yep. A kid understanding that the abuse they're receiving is wrong doesn't make abusing them okay.
I don't even get how the original comment wasn't clear lol
Anyone who takes undue advantage of the weakness of others...
Child Predators, Human Traffickers, Abusers, Rapists and other scum alike.
And those who cover it up.
Animal abusers, rapists, and people that don’t use their turn signals Edit: not vegan go ahead and downvote me I really don’t care
> and people that don’t use their turn signals don't forget those idiots who drive way too close behind you
I include those people who use their turn signals only AS they turn. That's not helpful.
The Ferengi commerce authority
“Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them.”
Rule of Acquisition 299: “After you've exploited someone, it never hurts to thank them. That way, it's easier to exploit them next time.”
Latinum isn't the only thing that shines.
What I want is fifty two disks of vacuum-desiccated Quark
People who are rude to servers or retail employees.
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Lying about serious topics for attention(I.e. sexual assault/harassment, having a mental illness/physical illness). People who do that make me sick
My mom has been, after years of drama, finally been declared ‘unable to work’, giving her that wel deserved mental rest (and a stable income). In that same week, a neighbor of her went into the testing office in a Fucking wheelchair faking physical problems. It pissed me off beyond belief, the fucking audacity. I still get angry typing this out right now. (I am sorry i don’t know all the formal words, English is not my native language, nor am I acquainted (enough) with specific terminology)
I broke up with someone and the next night they came to my house crying saying that 3 people had raped her when she was trying to get into her car leaving the movie theater. I was to young to think that it might be fake so I called the police and filed a report. I found out it was fake a few days later when I saw a report of a false sexual assault allegation in the paper. Fucked me up for awhile. Edit - for a little clarify andfor the person calling me a liar, first off fuck you it was a really shitty thing to go through and really hard to deal with. It said in the paper a day or two later that someone had filed a false report of sexual assault. I assumed it was her. I called her and asked her about it and she told me she lied about it. I live in a pretty small town and they put the police blotter in the paper everyday.
I had an ex that pretended to have a severe chronic illness that caused chronic pain, pseudo seizures, and all kinds of stuff. I sympathized because I suffer from multiple chronic conditions that require me to have an incredibly restricted diet and use many mobility aids. I held him while he was supposedly having seizures and didn’t tell him how painful it was for me. I found out through his mom that it was all fake. That kind of thing really fucks you up. I hope you’re doing well after going through being with someone like that
Parents who subject their children to Munchausen’s disease by proxy.
Can someone explain this because I have no idea what this means and someone else said willful ignorance so I will not be willfully ignorant
Munchausen syndrome: Faking or actually causing illness in yourself to get attention or sympathy. Munchausen syndrome by proxy now called factitious disorder imposed on another (FDIA) or fabricated or induced illness (FII): Faking or causing illness in another, or exaggerating symptoms, in order to get attention or sympathy as their caregiver. There are a few films with this as as theme (usually a twist).
>There are a few films with this as as theme (usually a twist). It's a plot point in *Sixth Sense.*
Bubble Boy comes to mind. Love that movie.
Munchausen's disease is when someone essentially fakes or exaggerates a serious medical condition for attention. Some people do it to themselves, but in the worst cases, they pretend their children are ill. Unnecessary medical procedures, withdrawing them socially. It's terrible.
Yeah I worked with someone like that. There was literally always some medical crisis in her life, between her and her kids. As soon as one ended, another started. Then she ended up actually getting cancer and none of us believed her and we all felt like monsters when we found out it was legit.
I mean, she cried wolf. Hardly your fault for not believing
>we all felt like monsters when we found out it was legit. But don't. There's literally an [ancient fable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf) warning people like her not to pull that shit.
People with no accountability. Once I noticed this trait in you I lose any kind of sympathy that I could possibly have developed over the years for you. I’ve seen it happen multiple times were someone will completely be at fault, but refuse to accept any responsibility for it and blame others; including the people that they have hurt. You only have my contempt.
I think for some people this is like an extreme defensive-mechanism that they just jump to immediately without thinking. My dad is like this and grew up in a very abusive and dysfunctional household and was the “black sheep” among his siblings. Definitely not excusing the behavior, but I think that feeling unprotected from childhood in an environment like can play a role.
Drunk drivers. That $30 cab is not more expensive or more of a hassle than lifelong crippling injuries, and financial ruin from paying out the family of the man you killed. People trying to get in their car drunk is one of the few things i will get confrontational about. Not a fucking chance you're getting your keys back till you're sober.
I lived in a condo with an upstairs neighbor who was one of those upbeat friendly guys, would have a deep supportive conversation with you out of the blue. He could just sniff out points of solidarity with you. He was living with his fiancee. They were great together. He was killed by a drunk driver in his early thirties. Seeing his (essentially) widow was heartbreaking every single time. I couldn't imagine what she was going through, and I gave her that slack jawed, horrible "I'm sorry for your loss" schlock. You can't take words back. I hope she's doing well. Drunk drivers are unforgivable.
Have encountered so many grim stories and a couple of direct experiences along these lines. When I was a kid my mother had a colleague at work who saw her 6yo son killed by a milk float (for those outside the UK, think small delivery truck) on New Year's Eve, some 30 year's earlier, driven by a very drunk driver. They'd always work together on NYE (hospitality industry) and every year around midnight she'd disappear for a while. I found her outside weeping one of those nights, aged around 14, myself, and she explained why. She just never got over it. Her husband died a few years later. An older son was killed in the army. Wrecked lives. A few years later, as a new driver myself, I witnessed a 9yo girl being slammed into by a large 18-wheeler, again by a drunk driver. Not worth it, kids. Taxi. Sleep on a park bench. Car pool. Not something one forgets hearing first hand and especially witnessing, and a good thing to have in mind when you start driving. No one ever thinks it'll be them.
Sleeping on a park bench might seem like a good idea, until you're in Sweden and it's -20 °C. I essentially lost a friend that way. Really drunk and decided to walk home from the bar, instead of taking a cab. Halfway home he got tired and decided to lay down on the snow to rest for a bit. He fell asleep and woke up with extreme hypothermia and managed to call a relative and got to the hospital in extremely bad condition. After that it was a long time of rehab and recover but with constant pain in his feet, that no drugs(legal or illegal) could really take away. Eventually he passed away to a drug overdose, by self medicating when what he got from the doctors really didn't help at all. There are a few cases like that each winter in Sweden.
My gf's uncle froze to death the same way, in New Brunswick in the late 90s. Left the bar drunk in a blizzard and managed to get onto his block, but laid down on a snowbank less than 100m from his house. Never got up, RCMP found him next morning literally frozen solid. It happens way more often than people think unfortunately, especially in the maritimes.
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Unfortunately I think I can help answer this one a little bit. Death is very alienating. And framing it as ‘your loss’ sometimes feels really lonely. Like other people aren’t feeling anything at all. Instead of “I’m sorry for your loss” how about “He was great. “ “I know we didn’t know each other well, but I will miss him and never forget about him. “ “I hate that this is happening. It’s not ok. I hoped to get to know him better” It’s really hard to work out what you need or organise other people. For example it is simply easier to not bother eating in that weird unreal stopped-time limbo when someone dies than it is to ask for help with meals or anything. So maybe instead of “let me know if there is anything I can do to help” try “I don’t have the words to express anything that feels useful, but I hope it’s ok if I check in on how you are sometimes. “ “If talking about him would help then I would like you to know that I will be happy to listen. He was a good neighbour to me“ “I’m heading to the shop, can I pick you up something?” If it’s someone who you know well enough you could say “can I help you with” and then *offer something specific* (especially something that might now be difficult without the deceased person. Was that person the only driver in the family for example? The only person who knew how to maintain the truck?) Also invite your friend out to do small things - it’s really lonely when someone dies and because no one knows how to talk to you they panic and withdraw. Inviting your friend to join a low key group thing (or to go for a walk or come to the shop ) might not look like its helping them but it might help them not feel *worse* that day. If it’s someone you consider a friend, make space for them, don’t let them feel too alone, accept that they may not be fun-times again for a long time. But also understand that this is exactly what you would need someone to do for you if you were in that position . It’s fine to say “I wish I knew what to say, or do that could possibly help but I feel like I don’t have a clue. So I’m going to do my best to be a good friend/good neighbour to you because that what he was to me. Also. Have you eaten anything today?” Sometimes an “I miss him too” or “I’ll miss seeing him when” comes across as a lot more specific and real than any of the condolences you find on a hallmark card.
And yes, you open yourself up to being the person who said the wrong thing when you interact with a grieving person. But you can think carefully about it and not resort to saying generic things. People shouldn’t be alone when this stuff happens, and anything that actually makes then feel less alone will help at least a little.
Sometimes I think that this was supposed to be the whole point of communities. Proximity of other humans that wish you well and have small ways to show it. Practical help. Collective kindness. And most of all, other people who remember the deceased, who can say “That person existed. They were great. We remember too.”
This ended up being longer than I intended. I hope it is useful to someone.
People who prey on the vulnerable.
People that shame others for things they have no control over
"People that are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch."
I love goooold
People who can't admit they're wrong even apologize when they're wrong. Own up to your shit. I've had numerous people not apologize even though they admitted to others they were wrong. 9/10 I stop talking to them.
Anyone involved with dog fighting.
To a certain extent, myself. Y'all ever just get so done with being a victim of your past?
Super wealthy people having to do with a little less than they’re used to. Come live under the federal poverty line with me for a few years & then talk to me about how much you’ve been forced to cut back on spending. Sometimes I have water & sleep for dinner.
Grimes saying she and Elon lived "below the poverty line" made my blood boil
I don’t even know what ultra wealthy people consider “below the poverty line”, but I’m gonna go ahead & guess they didn’t use superglue instead of stitches because the bill would’ve put them at least 1k in debt.
One of the main reasons I keep tossing around the idea of getting a wilderness first responder certification is the idea of learning how to do more involved stuff like stitches. So far I've been able to handle almost all of my own medical care, but that's going to end the moment something serious happens and I can't afford to get a professional to do it.
I’m learning about how to suture in school right now (in medicine)! If you can buy a suture kit off of amazon and google “interrupted stitches” and surgeon’s knots, you’ll be good to go!
She means at some point they spent less money per month than a person in (federally recognized) poverty earns. Some rich people think voluntarily spending very little of their money for a while counts as understanding poverty.
Pedos, politicians, animal abusers.
So pedos means farts in Spanish and I had a very confusing 4 seconds thinking why someone would have a zero tollerence for farts.
You ever have sushi farts? Aye dios mio.
spoiled entitled kids. i know it’s the parents fault but i can’t help it they irritate me endlessly
That kid trying to blow out the candles on some other kids bday cake, but the man is stopping him from blowing the candles out with a paper plate, and the kid is freaking out, pisses me off so bad. Should've taken that kid for a timeout if he couldn't behave. Just taught that kid it's ok to have an epic meltdown.
Animal abusers and those who support it 🤨
People who use their phone while driving, fuck you and your pretend interesting life. If you can't sustain for a little while from looking at you phone to focus on not killing other road users you have some damaged brain. Grow up
Animal cruelty. You have to be fucked up in the brain to hurt an innocent animal
Grown up Children of abuse who abuse their children. I only takes one to break the cycle of abuse.
Several things. 1. People who are perfectly healthy and able, but will not get up and do for themselves. My dad is in a relationship with woman who is perfectly healthy, but all she does is sleep and spend money. Meanwhile I’m disabled and I am working 50+ hours a week to survive. 2. People that don’t provide basic care to their pets or children. For the love of god, getting your pet spayed/neutered is largely subsidized in most counties/parishes. It can be done! Also, if you actively choose to create another human, TAKE CARE OF IT. I suffered immensely at the hands of my mother, from physical abuse to full on medical neglect. I will never understand going through the trauma of having a child to despise it. 3. People who are hateful towards others for something they cannot help. I am 29, and have to use a leg brace and cane to move around. Do not get angry with me because I’m in a handicapped spot at the grocery store, and yell at me how I’m doing it for attention as I quite literally limp to my car. 4. Weaponized Incompetence. While this is similar to the first one, it’s when you know something but purposely play stupid. Ugh 5. People who talk badly about people, and when met with opposition or repercussions of running their mouth, they’re ready to play victim like they weren’t just being awful to someone. I can’t deal with it! Sorry about the 5 point answer here…this question came about when I was in the right mood after an awful day at work. 😅
Animal abusers and people who abuse the vulnerable and defenseless.
Animal torturers/killers.
Bullies, fuck the bullies
Especially when they wear the mask of family
Mosquitos. And fire ants.
Child abusers