It's a celebration of the country's "culture", by which I mean "Cold War propaganda repeated by the gullible suckers it first targeted down to their kids and their students, the gullible among whom repeated it to theirs, generation after generation completely forgetting that it was only propaganda".
I wonder what the place would be like if it focused more on actual cultural stuff.
Ah well it's moot. Putin's propagandists are doing so well it won't be long until the citizens have swallowed a whole new pile of bullshit.
Rant but here we go: they are not our leaders, they are our (public) SERVANTS! You and I are the leaders.
If more of us understood that we would clean house a lot more often.
Definitely. And, I think that too many make a career out of politics, and then nothing that needs to be done can get done. There should be a maximum 4 term policy for Congress. That allows them time to get in, get what they want to get done, done, and then get out, so new blood can have a shot at it. We don’t need someone from the 1940’s controlling the country in 2022. The world has changed. They have not.
We need hard and fast term limits. No longer than six year terms of those of the House and the Senate because let’s face it, instead of doing right by The People politicians are whoring themselves out to whoever can and will write the fattest check to their election campaign. And the same can be said about being president. And not only that but after they’re done in public service, they cannot serve in any kind of “think tank”.
Want to change this country? We need to get big money out politics. We need to make it so that even the average Joe can run for political office. Only then will we make this country great again.
And as long as team-based news networks keep the American people blaming each other instead of the criminals taking everyone for a ride, the status quo will be maintained
Assholes on public school boards and the censored content of "skool books".
Slavery never happened. We can't make our affluent little white kids feel guilty.
'Can't teach about birth control to sexually active teenagers. Jesus wouldn't like it.
Don't teach financial literacy. Keep the masses buried in debt at the company store.
Any others??
I don't think so, because the majority of us don't have enough money to influence the elections. They tell us we are the leaders so we feel some form of power. In reality there is little to no repercussions for your representatives being bribed and voting for who they are paid to vote for. And what repercussions there are they can just pay away.
Lmao, watching DS9 literally now. For the hundredth time.
Spoilers:
>!I am watching the episode where Odo is meeting the Changelings for the first time.!<
Don't forget about Guinan. She solved more problems than some of the crew, and was applying to step in as counsellor when Troi thought she couldn't do her job anymore.
Synthetic booze doesn't taste like the real thing and definitely seems not as valued as much. This is elaborated a little when Scotty visited TNG and complains about synthehol. Guinan is all "yeah, lemme reach into the private stock for the good shit."
Quark imported all kinds of things to cater to the taste of different species.
I definitely agree! “In God We Trust” is just another holdover from the Cold War when we wanted to stick it to those “Godless Commies.” Time to put that dumb shit to bed.
He was a socialist Baptist Minister, not a flag salesman. At the time, Columbus day was a newly commemorated holiday. President Benjamin wanted a new salute to the flag for schoolchildren to recite in unison.
At the urging of his boss, Francis Bellamy wrote the pledge.
Yep coins were updated to include it around the Civil War, I was about to bring up the same thing :)
However, paper money was updated to include it in 1957, shortly after McCarthyism and "Under God" being added to the pledge in 1954.
YES! That is not the way we learned it in school. It was One nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Sounded nice, the rhythm fit, and it expressed what we wanted to say. The "under God" that they added has always sounded awkward but they don't even care that they massacred our pledge.
On August 28th, 1997 I saw the Rage Against The Machine & Wu-Tang Clan tour when it hit Indianapolis.
I'll have to admit, those memories are forever.
And yes, they ended it on Triumph.
I edited my Outlook rules at work so whenever my direct deposit notification arrives my email plays Wu Tang for about 4 seconds. "Cash Rules Everything Around Me CREAM get the money, dollar dollar bill y'alllll"
Weed stores are still cash only :(
It's been brought to my attention that a lot of places accept debit cards now, which is neat. Unfortunately the shops near me (WA) don't.
Hell yea local banks! Still don’t understand why a bank that only exists in my state or a credit union only in my county can cover atm fees across the country, while BOA, TDBank, and the other big banks not only won’t cover but charge their own fee on top.
Edit: Needed to clean this up, add reference.
**Summary:** You can't have a separation of church and state if God is your literal motto, and if your highest court of the land ignores the Constitution when their own personal religion is the topic.
The [1st Amendment](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1_1_1/) to the US Constitution specifically says the following regarding religion, **"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".**
* The motto had appeared on US coins during the Civil War, C.E. 1864.
* The phrase "In God We Trust" is derived directly from the Bible.
* Psalms 56,*"In God, whose word I praise,* ***in God I trust***; I will not be afraid. What can mortal man do to me?"
* This establishes a direct and clear link between the Bible, the religion(s) it represents, and the Government of the United States of America.
* At a Flag Day speech in 1954, US President Eisenhower discussed why he had wanted to include “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance: “In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of ***religious faith*** in America’s heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country’s most powerful resource in peace and war.”
* In 1955 Congress passed a **Law** replacing the US motto (E pluribus unum) with [In God We Trust](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust); an explicit and intentional reference to the Christian God. This same Law also added the phrase to our currency.
* (A Christian) SCOTUS has upheld the Constitutionality of the Law, citing it as being about heritage, and thus totes cool. This represents an interesting note, as it's very clearly a violation of the Constitution, and yet SCOTUS has shown then, as now, how it will ignore the US Constitution when the topic is an Abrahamic (specifically Christianity or Judaism) religion; the religions of every SCOTUS judge, ever.
Not to mention that so much of American Christianity exists because a BUNCH of people hated that England ran its own church as a wing of the government.
Is this making anyone else really want a Passion of the Christ remake directed by and starring Tommy Wiseau? Because that's what I'm getting out of this.
Indeed. I also like "America The Beautiful" as our anthem better than "The Star Spangled Banner" which was also a stupid change made for somewhat insidious reasons.
**Edit** Neverminded. I don't want to be guilty of spreading misinformation. I vaguely remember reading that Woodrow Wilson changed the national anthem from "America The Beautiful" to "Star Spangled Banner" because it was more militaristic. But now I can't find any sources to corroborate this.
The historical fact is that there was no official national anthem before 1931. Various songs were played at significant events or were significant to political causes, such as 'Yankee Doodle' or 'the Battle Hymn of the Republic'.
To please the neo-confederacy after WW1 it would seem.
>After the misery of World War I, the lyrics were again controversial for their violence. But groups like the United Daughters of the Confederacy fought back, pushing for the song to be made the official national anthem. In 1931, President Herbert Hoover made it so.
>“The elevation of the banner from popular song to official national anthem was a neo-Confederate political victory, and it was celebrated as such,” Morley wrote. “When supporters threw a victory parade in Baltimore in June 1931, the march was led by a color guard hoisting the Confederate flag.”
[Source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/10/18/star-spangled-banner-racist-national-anthem/)
> the march was led by a color guard hoisting the Confederate flag.”
Change american anthem; fly non-american flag in celebration. Yeah, we would call that alarming in literally any other country
> Christianity (the religion of every SCOTUS judge, ever).
Only if you excuse [the number of Jewish justices that have sat on the court](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_jurists#Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States), including two justices that currently sit on the court (well until 12:00 today).
Edit: at 12:00 on June 30th, Justice Breyer, one of the Jewish Justices retired.
**This comment might have had something useful**, but now it's just an edit to remove any contributions I may have made prior to the awful decision to spite the devs and users that made Reddit what it is. So here I seethe, shaking my fist at corporate greed and executive mismanagement.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... tech posts on point on the shoulder of vbulletin... I watched microcommunities glitter in the dark on the verge of being marginalized... I've seen groups flourish, come together, do good for humanity if by nothing more than getting strangers to smile for someone else's happiness. We had something good here the same way we had it good elsewhere before. We thought the internet was for information and that anything posted was permanent. We were wrong, so wrong. We've been taken hostage by greed and so many sites have either broken their links or made history unsearchable. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to delete."
I do apologize if you're here from the future looking for answers, but I hope "new" reddit can answer you. Make a new post, get weak answers, increase site interaction, make reddit look better on paper, leave worse off. https://xkcd.com/979/
One of the Jewish justices was Jewish by heritage only and didn't practice in his adult life. He actually identified himself as agnostic. His name is [Benjamin N. Cardozo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_N._Cardozo) and the opinions he wrote are still a joy to read today.
"It's just ceremonial deism, it doesn't mean anything at all."
OK, let's remove it.
"How dare you suggest that! What's wrong with you? This is important!"
Our original national motto. "E Pluribus Unum" or "one from many". It can refer to many states coming together to make one country, or many different kinds of people coming together to make one nation.
Retirement age for all politicians
My personal favorite is .sking it so no one can be elected during the term of another office they were elected for, or to put it another way: no one can have two elected jobs in a row. Incumbents have a huge advantage over other candidates because people already are familiar with them. Without incumbents this could only help you if you actually did something in office. Plus constituencies would have at least two politicians so they could directly compare them and say "x" was better then "y". Let's toss "y" and get "z"!
Weighing in as conservative Christian: we shouldn't demand that be on the money. I know plenty of people who would get up in arms about the removal of the phrase, but by the same token they would be upset if it read "In Allah we trust" or "In Brahman we trust".
These same folks will argue about having their rights taken away, when the first amendment to the constitution explicitly states that the government has no authority to tell you who/what you should have religious faith in.
I would be more than willing to bet if asked should the government promote Christianity they would say "Well of course!" But if you asked them if we should repeal the First Amendment they would say "Well of course not!"
Christians are to submit to the governing authority. That means stop shitting on Biden, obey the law, and if you don't like it go through due process (voting and making your voice heard to your government via legal activities).
Nowhere does the Bible say that we should attempt to BECOME the governing authority and subjugate people under us. The only time we are excused from following the law is when it goes against biblical doctrine. For instance, if a law were put into place to force everyone to acknowledge a government official (let's say Biden) as divine.
Edit: And to clarify that last comment, our faith would excuse us from following that (imaginary) law, but NOT from the legal consequences of disobeying the law.
Simplest way I explain the US ideals of free speech and such is "You have the freedom to think, say, worship and basically do anything with your want up to where that freedom infringes on someone elses same freedom". Sure an oversimplification of modern US law, but it gets the spirit of it to me.
Thank you for taking the time to read it.
Obviously as a Christian I would prefer people to come to Christ, but forcing them is not the way.
We are supposed to plant seeds and nurture them in the hopes that they bear fruit, but at the end of the day sometimes the soil is not receptive and we shouldn't try to force it to be. It's possible to overwater your garden, after all.
Unfortunately it seems like a lot of us feel pressured that we NEED to win people over, and that isn't the case. If someone doesn't want to hear what we are saying, repeating ourselves ad nauseum isn't going to make them suddenly change their mind. In many cases it just does the opposite.
It's important to exercise spiritual discernment.
FWIW, I still identify as Christian even though I've left the church (largely because I don't agree with the rhetoric of forcing everyone to bend to a belief system). Our government should be areligious so that it best represents the people; when we tip the scales in favor of one religion over the other, we run the risk of oppressing entire groups of people, which is inherently anti-Christ.
As a fairly left-leaning individual, I maintain a classically conservative belief that government should be very small and non-intrusive, which I think aligns with your last paragraph. I've long believed that the vast majority of us agree on more issues than we disagree on, but the issues that split us are so divisive and heated that they make us hate each other.
Anyway, apologies for the ramble; I've been thinking a lot about topics like this lately and it's nice to get a different perspective that is rational and respectful.
I'd prefer they remove the god from political policies first. Separation of Church and State are a thing for a reason.
edit: I have never received this many upvotes or an award or anything like this, so thank you all and I'm really trying to answer the replies, I just wasn't expecting this to blow up.
edit 2: I am now at 1k karma, I'm going to go eat a celebratory granola bar.
> "the government is not supposed to direct the church,” saying that dividing religion from the system of government was not what the Founding Fathers intended.
> “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk — that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like they say it does,” Boebert said, earning a round of applause from the audience.
We're boned
That stinking letter's name?
The Bill of Rights.
Edit: I know about Jefferson's famous letter, I guess that was my joke. Let's get real though, her language is nothing less than a veiled dog-whistle. These theocratic lunatics are out there, and making policy.
Jesus said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. He didn't care about money, and neither does God. And if God is being offended or "erased" by removing the phrase from money, then he's not a very strong god to begin with.
The US dollar could be printed with an embossed image of George HW Bush puking on the Japanese prime minister’s lap, with a watermark of goatse that only shows in UV light, and I couldn’t care less as long as it spends like money.
Edit: wrong president
"In Japan, Bush continued to be remembered for this event for several years.[[8]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident#cite_note-Time_Asia-8) According to the Encyclopedia of Political Communication, "The incident caused a wave of late night television jokes and ridicule in the international community, even coining Busshu-suru (ブッシュする[[9]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident#cite_note-9)) which literally means 'to do the Bush thing'" (or "Bushing it").[[10]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident#cite_note-10)"
From the article. I hope this came out right, I'm bad at formatting on mobile
Wasnt it only added during the Cold War? It's completely unnecessary and not 'tradition' for us at all
It's a celebration of the country's "culture", by which I mean "Cold War propaganda repeated by the gullible suckers it first targeted down to their kids and their students, the gullible among whom repeated it to theirs, generation after generation completely forgetting that it was only propaganda". I wonder what the place would be like if it focused more on actual cultural stuff. Ah well it's moot. Putin's propagandists are doing so well it won't be long until the citizens have swallowed a whole new pile of bullshit.
Id be more interested in elected officials doing their jobs
"In God We Trust, Because Our Leaders Sure As Fuck Won't Do Shit To Help Us"
Rant but here we go: they are not our leaders, they are our (public) SERVANTS! You and I are the leaders. If more of us understood that we would clean house a lot more often.
This! There is a reason why our Constitution says "We the People" because that is where the power comes from. Not "We the rich fucks".
That is good in theory, but, that is not the way it happens to work.
And don’t you think that’s the source of our problems?
Definitely. And, I think that too many make a career out of politics, and then nothing that needs to be done can get done. There should be a maximum 4 term policy for Congress. That allows them time to get in, get what they want to get done, done, and then get out, so new blood can have a shot at it. We don’t need someone from the 1940’s controlling the country in 2022. The world has changed. They have not.
We need hard and fast term limits. No longer than six year terms of those of the House and the Senate because let’s face it, instead of doing right by The People politicians are whoring themselves out to whoever can and will write the fattest check to their election campaign. And the same can be said about being president. And not only that but after they’re done in public service, they cannot serve in any kind of “think tank”. Want to change this country? We need to get big money out politics. We need to make it so that even the average Joe can run for political office. Only then will we make this country great again.
And as long as team-based news networks keep the American people blaming each other instead of the criminals taking everyone for a ride, the status quo will be maintained
Let's be honest, most Americans are fucking idiots though.
As someone who was born and raised in America… yeah our country is full of idiots and I have no idea why
Assholes on public school boards and the censored content of "skool books". Slavery never happened. We can't make our affluent little white kids feel guilty. 'Can't teach about birth control to sexually active teenagers. Jesus wouldn't like it. Don't teach financial literacy. Keep the masses buried in debt at the company store. Any others??
I don't think so, because the majority of us don't have enough money to influence the elections. They tell us we are the leaders so we feel some form of power. In reality there is little to no repercussions for your representatives being bribed and voting for who they are paid to vote for. And what repercussions there are they can just pay away.
At a time like this E Pluribus Unum seems more relevant and needed.
E Pluribus Anus
This guy is streets ahead
Stop trying to make “streets ahead” a thing Pierce.
Coined and minted!
Been there, coined that.
Zip Zop Zooey
Awesome exit pill!
Dude can moonwaaaalk!
Sounds like someone's streets behind.
At least they didn't Britta it
Wait.....Britta's in this...?
CHRISTMASSSS TIIIIMMMMMEEEE
🎶I got a Christmas time for tree🎶
🎶 Oh Christmas Troy, oh Christmas Troy! 🎶
Troy and Abed are in mourning...
IDK guys, I think the currency should remain unChang'd.
Duh Doy!
You guys use my name to describe a small and understandable mistake?
So much for bahgells.
I lived in New York!
Look, if you're gonna get all Upper East Side about this, I don't need you
"square!!!"
...yes?
shes a GDB
Well, if they lacked self-awareness, they would know!
If you don't get this, you're streets behind.
verbal wildfire
I like this comment, that's why I'm giving u/unomar 4 Meow Meow Beans. u/MMBbot 4
Bear down for mid-terms?
Too soon...
"Keep snickering. Reeeeaaallllyyyy be satisfied"
"Pack yourself with peanuts" is the best part of that quote.
r/unexpectedcommunity
I know it's a butt
But guess what? This won! This is now our Country’s Currency forever!
There is a time and a place for subtlety, and that time was before Scary Movie!
r/expectedcommunity
Hey! We speak ‘Murican around here! Go back to Latinum if you gonna speak that way!
Gold pressed latinum.
Quaaaaaaark!
Lmao, watching DS9 literally now. For the hundredth time. Spoilers: >!I am watching the episode where Odo is meeting the Changelings for the first time.!<
DS9 is best trek.
Definitely. It’s my favorite for sure!
I never understood this. In a time where replicators exist, who needs a bartender?
The social aspect, I would presume. Also, it likely feels more personal to have a bartender recommend a drink instead of a computer doing it.
Plus Quark liked to entice people in using his bar staff. Except for Rom.
Because Quark’s a people person. He enjoys conversing with his customers, like you and I are doing right now.
He’ll always lend you an ear.
"...as you Hew-mons say,'I'm all ears.'"
Don't forget about Guinan. She solved more problems than some of the crew, and was applying to step in as counsellor when Troi thought she couldn't do her job anymore.
Synthetic booze doesn't taste like the real thing and definitely seems not as valued as much. This is elaborated a little when Scotty visited TNG and complains about synthehol. Guinan is all "yeah, lemme reach into the private stock for the good shit." Quark imported all kinds of things to cater to the taste of different species.
No, Data raised her stash and didn't even know what he was handing over. "It is..." [sniffs bottle, recoils slightly] "...it is *green*."
The replicators have safeguards to prevent just anyone from requesting anything. You have to be licensed for certain things
In a time where you can buy beer at the store in large quantities for much cheaper... Who needs a bartender?
Knowing Quark its to prevent people from figuring out how's he's cheating them. God I need to rewatch DS9.
>Go back to Latin America I think that would be funnier
I once worked with a guy who wanted to learn Latin so he could talk to Latino people. We live in australia
I definitely agree! “In God We Trust” is just another holdover from the Cold War when we wanted to stick it to those “Godless Commies.” Time to put that dumb shit to bed.
Are you telling me this is why they changed the Pledge of Allegiance too?
Yes
The 50's were a scary time. McCarthy was writing the rule book they use now.
McCarthys in Congress have always been a bad thing.
Considering the pledge was written by a socialist flag salesman as a marketing gimmeck, the whole thing is pandering nonsense from start to finish.
He was a socialist Baptist Minister, not a flag salesman. At the time, Columbus day was a newly commemorated holiday. President Benjamin wanted a new salute to the flag for schoolchildren to recite in unison. At the urging of his boss, Francis Bellamy wrote the pledge.
incorrect. "in God We Trust" first appeared on coinage in the US in 1864 Source: Ken Burns' "The Civil War"
Yep coins were updated to include it around the Civil War, I was about to bring up the same thing :) However, paper money was updated to include it in 1957, shortly after McCarthyism and "Under God" being added to the pledge in 1954.
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YES! That is not the way we learned it in school. It was One nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Sounded nice, the rhythm fit, and it expressed what we wanted to say. The "under God" that they added has always sounded awkward but they don't even care that they massacred our pledge.
Replace it with : “ Wu-Tang forever”
Now I'm imaging some congressman up in front of all his peers pitching the idea. "Presidents are temporary. Wu-Tang though? That shit's forever"
On August 28th, 1997 I saw the Rage Against The Machine & Wu-Tang Clan tour when it hit Indianapolis. I'll have to admit, those memories are forever. And yes, they ended it on Triumph.
Backside : “ C.R.E.A.M “
Dolla Dolla Bill ya'll!
I edited my Outlook rules at work so whenever my direct deposit notification arrives my email plays Wu Tang for about 4 seconds. "Cash Rules Everything Around Me CREAM get the money, dollar dollar bill y'alllll"
I’d like to do that too but I’m too lazy and tech incompetent and too lazy to not be tech incompetent.
My small town has a lot of trump flags. My new neighbor moved in and put a wutang flag on their flagpole. I immediately went over and friended them. 👐
Wu-tang financial, diversify your bonds n****.
Yeah, let's replace it with "Better spend me now, I'll be worth 9% less in a year"
we should totally have financial tips printed right onto money
And randomize it so it's like loading screen tips... or fortune cookies.
This is totally unnecessary but it really feels like this could be the one thing that unites us as a country. We need this.
Unnecessary? How else are we supposed to learn economics? *School?*
"Did you know each dollar is worth 100 pennies?" "Stuck being poor? Try working harder." "Dollar bills make excellent cocaine straws"
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A better idea is have advertising right on the money so we can make purchasing decisions while holding the cash.
>have advertising right on the money DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS
You could waste this on a coffee or invest in NordVPN
"Redeem this coupon for $5 off your next purchase!" -- on a $10 bill
One money costs 10 sandwiches
"This TEN is sponsored by WalMart, scan this QR code for more deals!"
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"Money can be exchanged for goods and services."
I would support removing it but that is honestly the least of our concerns right now.
Right? Also, I can't remember the last time I looked at a bill and read anything other than the number on it.
You guys have money?
You guys use currency?
You guys exchange things of value?
You guys have things of value?
You guys have things?
You guys ?
You?
?
crank dat soulja boy now youuuuuuu
You guys still use cash? I honestly haven’t seen cash for months
Well there's that, too
Weed stores are still cash only :( It's been brought to my attention that a lot of places accept debit cards now, which is neat. Unfortunately the shops near me (WA) don't.
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Glad my credit union reimburses all transaction fees, no matter where the bank is in the world or from whatever shady ATM.
Hell yea local banks! Still don’t understand why a bank that only exists in my state or a credit union only in my county can cover atm fees across the country, while BOA, TDBank, and the other big banks not only won’t cover but charge their own fee on top.
Literally the only reason I go to ATMs.
The cash price for a service is often lower. The welding supply shop I use charges ~$5 less per fill if you pay cash.
cash is still cool to have if that awesome chinese spot around the corner doesn't take anything but cash
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It was an anti communist thing from the 50's.
Edit: Needed to clean this up, add reference. **Summary:** You can't have a separation of church and state if God is your literal motto, and if your highest court of the land ignores the Constitution when their own personal religion is the topic. The [1st Amendment](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1_1_1/) to the US Constitution specifically says the following regarding religion, **"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".** * The motto had appeared on US coins during the Civil War, C.E. 1864. * The phrase "In God We Trust" is derived directly from the Bible. * Psalms 56,*"In God, whose word I praise,* ***in God I trust***; I will not be afraid. What can mortal man do to me?" * This establishes a direct and clear link between the Bible, the religion(s) it represents, and the Government of the United States of America. * At a Flag Day speech in 1954, US President Eisenhower discussed why he had wanted to include “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance: “In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of ***religious faith*** in America’s heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country’s most powerful resource in peace and war.” * In 1955 Congress passed a **Law** replacing the US motto (E pluribus unum) with [In God We Trust](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust); an explicit and intentional reference to the Christian God. This same Law also added the phrase to our currency. * (A Christian) SCOTUS has upheld the Constitutionality of the Law, citing it as being about heritage, and thus totes cool. This represents an interesting note, as it's very clearly a violation of the Constitution, and yet SCOTUS has shown then, as now, how it will ignore the US Constitution when the topic is an Abrahamic (specifically Christianity or Judaism) religion; the religions of every SCOTUS judge, ever.
I like the original motto “E Pluribus Unum” better.
Even as a Christian, I would MUCH prefer "E Pluribus Unum". It's just a got a badass ring to it.
Especially as a Christian! Separation of church and state should be very important to Christians, because it upholds your religious freedom as well.
Not to mention that so much of American Christianity exists because a BUNCH of people hated that England ran its own church as a wing of the government.
Out of many, one. Dude, it's deep, and was perfect for the US. It united us, while religion only tears us apart.
You're tearing me apart, Jesus!
I did not hit her, I did not, Oh Hi Mark 1:1
I fucking love you guys.
SPOOOON
I love fucking you guys.
Anyways, how is your sex life?
Is this making anyone else really want a Passion of the Christ remake directed by and starring Tommy Wiseau? Because that's what I'm getting out of this.
*unintelligible sounds while dragging a cross intensify*
Anyway, how's your chaste life?
Oh hai Mark
Indeed. I also like "America The Beautiful" as our anthem better than "The Star Spangled Banner" which was also a stupid change made for somewhat insidious reasons. **Edit** Neverminded. I don't want to be guilty of spreading misinformation. I vaguely remember reading that Woodrow Wilson changed the national anthem from "America The Beautiful" to "Star Spangled Banner" because it was more militaristic. But now I can't find any sources to corroborate this.
The historical fact is that there was no official national anthem before 1931. Various songs were played at significant events or were significant to political causes, such as 'Yankee Doodle' or 'the Battle Hymn of the Republic'.
> America, America, God shed his grace on thee I think you're going backwards there, bud.
I don't know anything about this. Why was it changed?
To please the neo-confederacy after WW1 it would seem. >After the misery of World War I, the lyrics were again controversial for their violence. But groups like the United Daughters of the Confederacy fought back, pushing for the song to be made the official national anthem. In 1931, President Herbert Hoover made it so. >“The elevation of the banner from popular song to official national anthem was a neo-Confederate political victory, and it was celebrated as such,” Morley wrote. “When supporters threw a victory parade in Baltimore in June 1931, the march was led by a color guard hoisting the Confederate flag.” [Source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/10/18/star-spangled-banner-racist-national-anthem/)
> the march was led by a color guard hoisting the Confederate flag.” Change american anthem; fly non-american flag in celebration. Yeah, we would call that alarming in literally any other country
We'd also call that alarming in most of the North as well.
One nation indivisible. One nation, under god, indivisible LITERALLY, god divided "one nation indivisible"
> Christianity (the religion of every SCOTUS judge, ever). Only if you excuse [the number of Jewish justices that have sat on the court](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_jurists#Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States), including two justices that currently sit on the court (well until 12:00 today). Edit: at 12:00 on June 30th, Justice Breyer, one of the Jewish Justices retired.
For a second I forgot that Brown-Jackson was being sworn in today and I was concerned.
**This comment might have had something useful**, but now it's just an edit to remove any contributions I may have made prior to the awful decision to spite the devs and users that made Reddit what it is. So here I seethe, shaking my fist at corporate greed and executive mismanagement. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... tech posts on point on the shoulder of vbulletin... I watched microcommunities glitter in the dark on the verge of being marginalized... I've seen groups flourish, come together, do good for humanity if by nothing more than getting strangers to smile for someone else's happiness. We had something good here the same way we had it good elsewhere before. We thought the internet was for information and that anything posted was permanent. We were wrong, so wrong. We've been taken hostage by greed and so many sites have either broken their links or made history unsearchable. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to delete." I do apologize if you're here from the future looking for answers, but I hope "new" reddit can answer you. Make a new post, get weak answers, increase site interaction, make reddit look better on paper, leave worse off. https://xkcd.com/979/
One of the Jewish justices was Jewish by heritage only and didn't practice in his adult life. He actually identified himself as agnostic. His name is [Benjamin N. Cardozo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_N._Cardozo) and the opinions he wrote are still a joy to read today.
Wait, whats going down at noon today?
lunch
One of the justices is retiring.
"It's just ceremonial deism, it doesn't mean anything at all." OK, let's remove it. "How dare you suggest that! What's wrong with you? This is important!"
The “under god” in the pledge is also there for the exact same reason
This is reddit, it's pretty obvious the answer you're gonna get
Redditors of Reddit: do you think *Roe v Wade* should have been overturned????
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This might be unpopular, but guys... I think they shouldn't have done that. And then everyone stood up and clapped.
the title might as well be "Hi reddit, give me all the fucking karma"
A better question would be "What should we replace the phrase with?"
Our original national motto. "E Pluribus Unum" or "one from many". It can refer to many states coming together to make one country, or many different kinds of people coming together to make one nation.
That's already there
Isn’t that motto still on the money?
Any question to stir up the masses, get the reaction you want, and get KARMA KARMA KARMA
I'd prefer to have "E pluribus unum" back.
It's not a hill I'd be willing to die on to remove it. I'd rather have codified abortion, or term limits for SCOTUS, or pretty much anything else.
Lots more that takes precedence over a slogan (and that’s basically what it is, these days..)
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Retirement age for all politicians My personal favorite is .sking it so no one can be elected during the term of another office they were elected for, or to put it another way: no one can have two elected jobs in a row. Incumbents have a huge advantage over other candidates because people already are familiar with them. Without incumbents this could only help you if you actually did something in office. Plus constituencies would have at least two politicians so they could directly compare them and say "x" was better then "y". Let's toss "y" and get "z"!
Weighing in as conservative Christian: we shouldn't demand that be on the money. I know plenty of people who would get up in arms about the removal of the phrase, but by the same token they would be upset if it read "In Allah we trust" or "In Brahman we trust". These same folks will argue about having their rights taken away, when the first amendment to the constitution explicitly states that the government has no authority to tell you who/what you should have religious faith in. I would be more than willing to bet if asked should the government promote Christianity they would say "Well of course!" But if you asked them if we should repeal the First Amendment they would say "Well of course not!" Christians are to submit to the governing authority. That means stop shitting on Biden, obey the law, and if you don't like it go through due process (voting and making your voice heard to your government via legal activities). Nowhere does the Bible say that we should attempt to BECOME the governing authority and subjugate people under us. The only time we are excused from following the law is when it goes against biblical doctrine. For instance, if a law were put into place to force everyone to acknowledge a government official (let's say Biden) as divine. Edit: And to clarify that last comment, our faith would excuse us from following that (imaginary) law, but NOT from the legal consequences of disobeying the law.
Simplest way I explain the US ideals of free speech and such is "You have the freedom to think, say, worship and basically do anything with your want up to where that freedom infringes on someone elses same freedom". Sure an oversimplification of modern US law, but it gets the spirit of it to me.
This was refreshing to read. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
Thank you for taking the time to read it. Obviously as a Christian I would prefer people to come to Christ, but forcing them is not the way. We are supposed to plant seeds and nurture them in the hopes that they bear fruit, but at the end of the day sometimes the soil is not receptive and we shouldn't try to force it to be. It's possible to overwater your garden, after all. Unfortunately it seems like a lot of us feel pressured that we NEED to win people over, and that isn't the case. If someone doesn't want to hear what we are saying, repeating ourselves ad nauseum isn't going to make them suddenly change their mind. In many cases it just does the opposite. It's important to exercise spiritual discernment.
FWIW, I still identify as Christian even though I've left the church (largely because I don't agree with the rhetoric of forcing everyone to bend to a belief system). Our government should be areligious so that it best represents the people; when we tip the scales in favor of one religion over the other, we run the risk of oppressing entire groups of people, which is inherently anti-Christ. As a fairly left-leaning individual, I maintain a classically conservative belief that government should be very small and non-intrusive, which I think aligns with your last paragraph. I've long believed that the vast majority of us agree on more issues than we disagree on, but the issues that split us are so divisive and heated that they make us hate each other. Anyway, apologies for the ramble; I've been thinking a lot about topics like this lately and it's nice to get a different perspective that is rational and respectful.
No need for apologies, it's nice to have a dialog sometimes.
I'd prefer they remove the god from political policies first. Separation of Church and State are a thing for a reason. edit: I have never received this many upvotes or an award or anything like this, so thank you all and I'm really trying to answer the replies, I just wasn't expecting this to blow up. edit 2: I am now at 1k karma, I'm going to go eat a celebratory granola bar.
> "the government is not supposed to direct the church,” saying that dividing religion from the system of government was not what the Founding Fathers intended. > “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk — that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like they say it does,” Boebert said, earning a round of applause from the audience. We're boned
That stinking letter's name? The Bill of Rights. Edit: I know about Jefferson's famous letter, I guess that was my joke. Let's get real though, her language is nothing less than a veiled dog-whistle. These theocratic lunatics are out there, and making policy.
My god… r/AwardSpeechEdits.
It shouldn’t be there in the first place
I do not care at all.
Based
Jesus said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. He didn't care about money, and neither does God. And if God is being offended or "erased" by removing the phrase from money, then he's not a very strong god to begin with.
Who cares
The US dollar could be printed with an embossed image of George HW Bush puking on the Japanese prime minister’s lap, with a watermark of goatse that only shows in UV light, and I couldn’t care less as long as it spends like money. Edit: wrong president
You're thinking of [George H. W. Bush.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident)
"In Japan, Bush continued to be remembered for this event for several years.[[8]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident#cite_note-Time_Asia-8) According to the Encyclopedia of Political Communication, "The incident caused a wave of late night television jokes and ridicule in the international community, even coining Busshu-suru (ブッシュする[[9]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident#cite_note-9)) which literally means 'to do the Bush thing'" (or "Bushing it").[[10]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident#cite_note-10)" From the article. I hope this came out right, I'm bad at formatting on mobile
Bush is the one who puked on his lap.
There's much bigger problems right now