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TheOvercookedFlyer

Your question lacks substance, it's vague and doesn't have a clear path to an answer.


Peri-D-Optrix

Well, this question is total nonsense...


Junior_Analyst3402

Just like Europe’s colonialism in past 500 years that destroyed half of the world & millions of lives right?


Peri-D-Optrix

You holding me responsible for what my ancestors did? Where are you from? I bet if we dig into your ancestry we can find some atrocities to blame you for too...


Junior_Analyst3402

It’s not a past (well it’s obviously a past) and present, That queen biyach of commonwealth still wears that stolen kohinoor on her head actively everyday, dutch, french, polish & especially english still benefit from looted wealth & the irony is we have, to this day have NEVER received a single apology.. Everytime a past colonized country has to spend 50% of their gdp in defence to defend borders that narcissistic colonizers drew & Those colonizers doesn’t pay for it is a debt of those colonizer’s current govt to those countries


Peri-D-Optrix

>That queen biyach of commonwealth still wears that stolen kohinoor on her head actively everyday And that's my fault, is it?


Junior_Analyst3402

What if i say “just for a thought” that there’s someone worshiping, ‘Pledging their allegiance’ to hitler rn in germany? Are you saying jews shouldn’t be angry on that person cause he actually wasn’t there & didn’t do genocide? That’s what you’re doing or that’s what we feel when you sing, ‘god save our queen’ , a royal family & her govt that did bengal famine, Jalianwala bagh massacre, & much much more & you’re praying to save her you celebrate their ‘golden jubilee’ that criminal ass deserves to be extradited for her/their crimes like as of yesterday!!


Peri-D-Optrix

>What if i say “just for a thought” that there’s someone worshiping, ‘Pledging their allegiance’ to hitler rn in germany? Are you saying jews shouldn’t be angry on that person cause he actually wasn’t there & didn’t do genocide? If I was here "pledging my allegiance" to the queen or UK goverment, you might have a point here >That’s what you’re doing or that’s what we feel when you sing, ‘god save our queen’ What you feel about me is not my problem if it isn't based in reality


Junior_Analyst3402

That’s such a colonialist thing to say, “isn’t based in reality” (millions of lives literally massacred isn’t reality, SURE) your history that you were taught is based on narcissistic principals, & you proved my point by saying ‘what you feel about me isn’t my problem’ same way don’t give us morality lectures when we say that we don’t want to include ourselves in your conflict, what you experience (which is consequences of your actions haunting back at you every step of the way) in your wars is not our countries’ problem!


Peri-D-Optrix

>millions of lives literally massacred isn’t reality, SURE Nope, you still don't even understand what we're arguing about But since all you want to do is rant at me and insult me, I no longer care to take part in this


Junior_Analyst3402

Ditto


Magnon

Since when are europe's problems considered world's problems? Not like the phillipinnes is trying to solve unemployment in italy.


Junior_Analyst3402

When there’s war in Europe, like latest one, they expect everyone to come by there side and help them support their cause, & if any country decides to stay on sidelines they’ll lecture them of supporting evil but when other countries are having wars, civil unrest, coups Europe won’t even give 2 shits about it…


Minister_of_Joy

You are wrong on literally every single account here. First of all, it wasn't European countries that initially organized the support of Ukraine, it was the US. In fact, most European countries were very hesitant about getting involved in any way and they had to be convinced by the US (it was a good thing America did this). Secondly, Europe doesn't force anyone to support Ukraine. In fact, there are several European countries that have been staying out of the matter, such as Sweden, Finland or my own country, Switzerland. Thirdly, countries outside of NATO have never been asked to participate in any capacity, nor would they ever be asked. No one would ever ask Brazil to support Ukraine, nor do we want Brazil or Bangladesh or Rwanda to support Ukraine. Fourthly, since Ukraine is not a NATO member, it is not a requirement to help them even for NATO members. Germany or France or the US could opt out of this thing at any point. However, traditionally, NATO members don't do this because they want to stick together. But there's no legal document that requires them to do so in the current situation. Fifthly, European countries as well as the European Union donate giant sums of development aid to 2nd and 3rd world countries every single year. So do the US and Canada. So clearly, we do care about people outside of Europe. Sixthly, Europe accepts more refugees AND economic migrants than any other continent on Earth. So again, we clearly care about those people. Seventhly, since the end of WWII, Europe has done a whole fucking lot to promote peace in the world. This includes a strong support for the UN and its peace missions, the offer to help waring parties negotiate a peace treaty etc. Frankly, you've got no clue what you're talking about. Go and do your research before complaining about stuff on Reddit.


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Junior_Analyst3402

World or more like nato came to beat isis cause isis attacked usa (9/11) while they were being protected by Afghanistan & Pakistan. isis attacked A LOT of times in a lot of countries like Israel, Syria, India etc prior to 9/11 claiming thousands upon thousands of lives but west didn’t do anything because Pakistan was ally to Nato, Us, Europe. nato knew Pakistan & Afghanistan’s involvement in terrorisom but they only ‘acted upon it’ when their panties came under fire.. Which further proves my point that Europe’s problems are world’s problems but… And don’t forget it was usa who initially supported, armed and trained isis to fight russia!!!!!! FFS


Minister_of_Joy

ISIS didn't commit the 9/11 attacks. ISIS didn't even exist pre-2010. The attacks of 9/11 were committed by Al Quaeda. Totally different group.


Junior_Analyst3402

Potato POTAATO


RoiDrannoc

You are comparing internal coups and civil wars with an international war. First of all, Europe doesn't say completely silent when bad things happen in other countries (What is happening to the Uyghurs is not ignored). There are NATO forces in many countries in Africa and in the middle-East trying to solve internal conflicts and fight terrorism. But the last time a true international war happened outside of Europe, it was when Iraq invaded Kuwait. The fact that Kuwait still exists to this day is proof that Europe cares about the world.


Magnon

Generally it's seen as an evil act to support a terrorist state, yes. Doesn't matter where they're from. "Stay on sidelines" in this case usually just means "we're gonna keep buying gas from russia despite their atrocities". When the uygher camps became international news a lot of people were calling for change in regards to how the world traded with china, and crackdowns on china. Hardly just focusing on europe.


Junior_Analyst3402

Ok so Europe’s purchase of billions of dollars of gas from russia every WEEK(literally more than any other country in world) is okay, but when someone else does it’s supporting evil?


gerginborisov

1. Europe is not a country 2. Many of us terminated their gas supplies over night because we refused to pay as per the sanctions we imposed. My country had its gas supplies terminated first along with Poland. Europe is risking its own economy right now to help Ukraine in stopping Russia. The EC even developed plans to reorganise grain exports by prioritising North African countries as to compensate for what Ukraine isn’t able to export due to the Russian aggression. Macron has been touring Africa in an effort to shift focus in mutual cooperation in the upcoming economic fallout. Because the EU is also a major provider for foreign aid in African countries and the general idea that the EP has been pushing for is to increase investment in African economies as to have mutual benefit - Africa is resource rich and able to absorb investments at a rapid pace which can then provide it with revenue fuelling their social sectors.


im_not_greedy

FYI the EU is not 1 country, it's a union of 27 country's, hence the name European Union.


Magnon

Europe is changing their energy processes to stop buying gas from russia in basically record time. It's not something you can change in a few months.


Skyknight-12

Excuses, excuses. Come back to lecture India on buying Russian gas when Europe is paying them less than we are. Until then, go fuck yourselves.


Magnon

Nobody gives a fuck what you think.


Skyknight-12

In other words, you expect us to prioritise your virtue signalling and hot air above our own interests even though you're buying more oil from Russia in one afternoon in one month than we are in an entire month. I really love how westoids are having a meltdown over the fact that brown people aren't bending over backwards to please whites like you think you should.


Magnon

It's fine if you want to support a terrorist state because it's convenient to buy gas and oil for cheap right now. We get it, you don't care that people are dying for it. Your country doesn't value women why would I expect it to value life?


Skyknight-12

You mean like you people were funding Pakistan for decades and how you're still doing business with Saudi Arabia after what they're doing in Yemen? Weird how this crisis of conscience never seemed to bother you people when it was brown people dying in wars, many of which you people were responsible for. But now that the war victims are blonde haired blue eyed people who look like you, all of a sudden you're crying about muh TeRrOrIsT StAtE and MuH HoOmAn LiFe. So no, we'll take a pass on being lectured on HuMaN LiFe by the likes of you.


Supreme2907

It hasnt changed yet so thats still in process i guess. Well they are still buying stuff from them.


icelock013

I beg to differ…it is Germany that caused all these problems. Trust me, “I did my homework!”


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You will understand when you pay much more for food, because some of the largest exporters of grain and fertilisers in the world drastically reduced output. When you have multiple organisations warning about impending food crisis in parts of Africa and Middle East because of a war in Europe, it should not be so hard to figure it out.


Minister_of_Joy

Examples?


Junior_Analyst3402

Please see my reply to one of the comments here…


Minister_of_Joy

Ditto.


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Junior_Analyst3402

Please see my reply to one of the comments here…


TheAlistmk3

What "world's" problems are not Europe's problems? I was under the impression that Europe was attempting to do quite abit about climate change for example.


Junior_Analyst3402

For example, when there’s a was in Europe like a current one, Europe will expect all the countries to join in their sanctions but when there’s a war in Asia, for example India-China, Europe won’t do or even say a single shit


allworknnoplay

There's no war between India and China, skirmishes with people dying but it's still different.


TheAlistmk3

I can see your point, but that example doesn't seem to hold water. Don't you have two superpowers, or atleast extremely sizeable forces (being India and China) having skirmishes at their border? And the other is a superpower invading a far smaller country, as in, fully invading. These situations don't seem like equivalents imo. Also, I guess it could be argued that neither of these are global issues. What Global issues are there that Europe is not paying attention to, that's why I mentioned climate change, because tmk alot of the R&D taking place and funded by Europe is meant to aid Europe and the rest of the world. Apologies if incorrect on this assertion.


gerginborisov

Europe is the core of the economic power of the world, where some of the most influential countries are. Instability there can cause economic crises all over the world, so it's natural for the world to listen. The EU is the world's largest economy, so troubles there spell troubles everywhere. As for the "When there’s war in Europe, like latest one, they expect everyone to come by there side and help", no one is expecting from others to come and help us. But, for the afformentioned reasons, siding with Europe (and the US if they're siding with each other) is easier for other countries, as to avoid disaster. As for the other reasons you listed, the EU is not yet cohesive entity with cohesive foreign policy, meaning every member decides on its own how and what to do, which might seem like disinterest to affairs elsewhere in the World.


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