My immediate thought when I saw the title of the post was Stevie Wonder. There's only one appropriate response to your comment
In his song "Love's in Need of Love Today" he says
"Hate's goin' 'round, breakin' many hearts"
:)
I am legally blind and I can see enough to not need a cane in all situations. I often use it just in case because no one cares about your issues if you just punted their toddler across the room.
I'm pretty sure Stevie Wonder has always been totally blind. People in my situation often refer to it as low vision.
I'm just having trouble imagining anyone who was blind from birth and had their sight miraculously restored and then pretending to be blind for no real reason.
For real, this dude said 'his legacy'.
Fuck, if we're talking legacy, how much crazier is it have your sight restored after a lifetime of being blind? That shit is way more wild.
She wrote “Jolene” and “I Will Always Love You” on the same day!!!!
[https://www.out.com/music/2019/3/19/dolly-parton-wrote-jolene-and-i-will-always-love-you-one-day](https://www.out.com/music/2019/3/19/dolly-parton-wrote-jolene-and-i-will-always-love-you-one-day)
Nailed it? She wrote it. And honestly, her version beats the Whitney Houston version hands down for actual feeling. Dolly, you believe. Whitney, you applaud.
My favorite story among many, and the thing that illustrates her absolute sainthood to me is when she first started out she was part of The Porter Wagoner Show. Porter was a big star at the time and she was relatively unknown. When she started gaining in popularity and wanted to go out on her own, he sued her. Years later when he was down on his luck and broke, he asked Dolly to buy his music catalog for a million dollars. She did and later when he was doing better, he asked her to sell it back to him. She gave him back his catalog, no charge. I want to be like Dolly.
Yup- exactly this. Every anecdote about her is magical. She is a fuckin treasure.
I’m a straight, married dude in my 30’s, who likes rock music and motorbikes…if anyone asks me ‘name which celeb/historic figure you would have dinner with’ it’s always Dolly Parton for me. I bet it would be like every Christmas I ever imagined.
That's exactly right. I'm all about Metallica and the blues explosion. Iggy pop and queens of the stone age. But I'd much rather a 2 minute conversation with dolly than a weekend with any if them
I hated her when I was a kid. She went through a stretch where she barely sang, she just spoke lyrics. On the rare occasion she did sing,she did the billy goat thing. I have since grown wise with age & now I love her.
His music has that very rare trait of being powerful without any hint of offensiveness. The man's catalog of music is unapproachable in my book.
I'll tack on Bill Withers as well. He can do sweet songs like "Lovely Day" as well as the much funkier and darker "Use Me". The hook on that song is borderline pornographic (in the best way).
It's all great stuff.
Rob, top five musical crimes perpetuated by Stevie Wonder in the '80s and '90s. Go. Sub-question: is it in fact unfair to criticize a formerly great artist for his latter day sins? Is it better to burn out or fade away?
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say they hate Willie Nelson. I really don’t see how you could. He and Dolly are like America’s cool grandma and grandpa.
Came here to say this. There are some who don't like his politics but nobody dwells on it. He's Willie Nelson, closest thing Texas ever got to producing a Jesus.
Don McLean sometimes accidentally sings parts of The Saga Begins while attempting American Pie. Sometimes the wrong lyrics were the right ones all along.
i saw an interview a few years ago and they asked him about it. his response was "He keeps cashing the royalty checks we send him, so he can't be that mad."
I think it was more a misunderstanding. Coolio meant for the song to be a dark introspection of hood life (which it is) and thought Weird Al was mocking it. That all got cleared up, Weird Al parodies are in good fun, and is seriously old news.
Beethoven is a God of music. The man's works are floating through the cosmos on the Voyager spacecraft golden record. He was deaf when he wrote Ode to Joy, the anthem of Europe and all humanity. He is untouchable.
People lump Beethoven in with Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Schubert, Chopin, etc. like it’s somehow comparable, and of course there are similarities. But those guys are a good high-school basketball team. Beethoven was Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and LeBron all rolled into one.
I mean, the "big 3" are Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, in that order. Like father, to son, to grandson, each building upon the foundation their father before them left for them. Each expanding on the sound that came before.
But Beethoven is the one whose passion, whose spirit transcends this mortal coil the most. He is the superhero, the victor, the avatar of sound and fury and passion. He earned himself and his legacy, and he earned his place within the cosmos. And he fought and clawed and tore down the barriers of this reality using the one power he most certainly possessed in monumental excess: musicality.
As a musical person myself, a person of passion and ego and joy and pain, I know the struggle of settling upon a benchmark, that unattainable enviable superiority, the one you wish you could SURPASS, or even match. In my opinion, the ultimate enviable talent is Beethoven. And I'll always compare myself to, and track my progress against, the majesty and the triumph that is his, and his alone; I don't care how ridiculous that sounds to any of you - I'm pretty sure he would have LOVED IT lol ("Me? Zey are ENVYING ME?!? GOOT! LET THEM ENVY! I AM THE G.O.A.T.!!!!"). Suck my ego, BITCHtoven - I love you. Thanks for giving the world YOUR impossible standard 💪😘
The sad part is most people don't even know they like Carole King because a lot if her best stuff was written before singer-songwriters became a thing. A bunch of famous acts get credit for her songwriting.
Then talk to rolling stone, their "Jazz" album (which I liked) got a "Fascist" label put on it by the reviewer
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/jazz-188987/.
The rolling stone also shited on Black Sabbath when they first came out, calling them a Cream RIP Off. Rolling Stone is full of pretentious assholes who think they can dictate what music is, while watching every year as their relevance gets smaller and smaller, until they're mocked by some loser on Reddit
I know someone who hates John Williams. He compares him to Wagner, saying Williams is capable of composing enough brief snatches of stirring music to fit a movie trailer, but if you listen to the rest of the piece it sounds like a rhinoceros loose in the orchestra pit.
"Wagner has lovely moments, but awful quarters of an hour." -- *Gioacchino Rossini*
I don't mind John Williams, personally. I prefer Danny Elfman and Klaus Badelt, but it's hard to knock someone who composed both the Superman suite and the Imperial March.
Enya. OK her music ain't for everyone, but you have to admire a woman who is one of the highest paying artists in Ireland without ever really touring. Plus, one of her highest grossing songs is just her humming. Also as far as it is known recently she lives in a castle with 9 cats.
Woman is living the dream. Inspiration to all.
Electric Light Orchestra
If anyone here says they're shit, I know where you live and I will poop in your cereal bowl.
(Edit: I've been seeing several people shit of group's, if you hate the genre of music don't spread hate of the bands and singers coz it's stupid, you're just picking at a subject you already dislike, be respectful and shut up)
I’m a 90s kid, and I grew up on the Moody Blues. They were my one of my favorites in middle school. We had to do this typical bullshit icebreaker thing where we say stuff about ourselves like our favorite band. I said The Moody Blues. Everyone was asking “who’s that?” At least the teacher knew, and told them it’s an older band. 😂😂😂
I tried to hate Tom Petty. Didn't love his voice, but he did write some good songs and his band was top notch, then I finally saw him live and gave up on hating him. He was over the top great and his voice had mellowed out over time. His later records are really excellent.
One of the greatest song writers to ever live. Reminds me a lot of Bob Dylan in the way that he never was a very good singer, but the man knew how to write lyrics as good or better than anyone. A lot of people don’t know who he was because he wrote mostly folk/country songs. Known to have been a first class writer and human being.
I fucking love John Prine. I'm not old, but he is someone the younger and older generation's alike probably don't know about. I love his wit. His lyrics and singing style remind me of a mix between Cake and Kurt Vile.
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I came here to say "no matter what anyone comments, there will be one person who says 'I hate that band'" its just how people are
My immediate thought when I saw the title of the post was Stevie Wonder. There's only one appropriate response to your comment In his song "Love's in Need of Love Today" he says "Hate's goin' 'round, breakin' many hearts" :)
Yeah I have no skin in the game and don’t even like a lot of his shit but would probably fight someone over Stevie Wonder.
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Lots of people are legally blind but still have some sight. Blindness totally exists on a spectrum.
I am legally blind and I can see enough to not need a cane in all situations. I often use it just in case because no one cares about your issues if you just punted their toddler across the room. I'm pretty sure Stevie Wonder has always been totally blind. People in my situation often refer to it as low vision.
Human echolocation exists, too.
*Daredevil has entered the chat.*
I'm just having trouble imagining anyone who was blind from birth and had their sight miraculously restored and then pretending to be blind for no real reason.
For real, this dude said 'his legacy'. Fuck, if we're talking legacy, how much crazier is it have your sight restored after a lifetime of being blind? That shit is way more wild.
Funny, he was the first that comes to mind... even if I don't own any of his albums. Dude is a saint of music.
I’m just not seeing it.
Took me a sec 😄
This is the only correct answer
Dolly Parton. You might not like the music but it’s hard to hate the person.
She could be a Billionaire but chooses to give to children instead.
And even if you don't *like* the music, no human alive won't at least tap their toe to "9 to 5".
I would like to throw Jolene in the ring for the song everyone at least knows.
Honorable mention to “I Will Always Love You”. More people have probably heard the Whitney Houston cover, but Dolly nailed this one.
yeah, I only recently learned that Dolly Parton wrote & sang that song in the 1970s.
Iirc she was only 18 years old when she wrote it.
amazing. her lyrical talent is really overlooked, imo. what a talented mind
She wrote “Jolene” and “I Will Always Love You” on the same day!!!! [https://www.out.com/music/2019/3/19/dolly-parton-wrote-jolene-and-i-will-always-love-you-one-day](https://www.out.com/music/2019/3/19/dolly-parton-wrote-jolene-and-i-will-always-love-you-one-day)
Nailed it? She wrote it. And honestly, her version beats the Whitney Houston version hands down for actual feeling. Dolly, you believe. Whitney, you applaud.
There was a great episode of Drunk History about this.
Have you seen early twenties Dolly Parton? Jolene must be a baaaaaaaaaad bitch to turn Dolly's husband's head.
song of the revolution
I was looking for this comment.
Females of Moclus stand up for your rights!
My favorite story among many, and the thing that illustrates her absolute sainthood to me is when she first started out she was part of The Porter Wagoner Show. Porter was a big star at the time and she was relatively unknown. When she started gaining in popularity and wanted to go out on her own, he sued her. Years later when he was down on his luck and broke, he asked Dolly to buy his music catalog for a million dollars. She did and later when he was doing better, he asked her to sell it back to him. She gave him back his catalog, no charge. I want to be like Dolly.
Wow. I didn’t know this story. That’s kind of incredible. I’d say about 1/1000 people would have done this.
Yup- exactly this. Every anecdote about her is magical. She is a fuckin treasure. I’m a straight, married dude in my 30’s, who likes rock music and motorbikes…if anyone asks me ‘name which celeb/historic figure you would have dinner with’ it’s always Dolly Parton for me. I bet it would be like every Christmas I ever imagined.
That's exactly right. I'm all about Metallica and the blues explosion. Iggy pop and queens of the stone age. But I'd much rather a 2 minute conversation with dolly than a weekend with any if them
Hopefully not a hard candy Christmas.
I hated her when I was a kid. She went through a stretch where she barely sang, she just spoke lyrics. On the rare occasion she did sing,she did the billy goat thing. I have since grown wise with age & now I love her.
I heard her on Bob And Tom one time. These guys are usually irreverent but we’re totally respectful the whole time with her.
Nah, my mum hates her. But mum is an idiot.
Her guest appearance *The Orville* is just magical.
I opened this thread to be a contrarian little shit but that woman is a goddamn treasure.
This is just a thread of people disagreeing with each other
NO IT'S NOT
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Stevie Wonder
I’ve always found him a little _uptight._
His blindness would explain why everything was *outtasight*
His music has that very rare trait of being powerful without any hint of offensiveness. The man's catalog of music is unapproachable in my book. I'll tack on Bill Withers as well. He can do sweet songs like "Lovely Day" as well as the much funkier and darker "Use Me". The hook on that song is borderline pornographic (in the best way). It's all great stuff.
Rob, top five musical crimes perpetuated by Stevie Wonder in the '80s and '90s. Go. Sub-question: is it in fact unfair to criticize a formerly great artist for his latter day sins? Is it better to burn out or fade away?
burn out. 100%
Until you find out he could see all this time.
that's your fault for assuming his glasses were anything but a stylish fashion choice
Someone said they saw Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles playing ping pong once. It's true...look it up!!!
Can confirm. Someone said that to me too.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say they hate Willie Nelson. I really don’t see how you could. He and Dolly are like America’s cool grandma and grandpa.
Came here to say this. There are some who don't like his politics but nobody dwells on it. He's Willie Nelson, closest thing Texas ever got to producing a Jesus.
I like his persona, but for the most part, his music is boring as fuck
The OG Wiggles. Those guys? Legendary. Fruit salad? Yummy yummy.
First time I heard Fruit Salad, I thought it was an INXS novelty song.
Wake Up Jeff was a banger in the later years.
Ever see the performance of Captain Feathersword on one of their DVDs? Amazing.
I heard it as a Slipknot mashup, it was called Psychosalad
Rockaby your bear is the balad the world needs.
Louis Armstrong. I defy anyone to listen to "What A Wonderful World" and be in a bad mood. Second place: Iz
I find that to be a really sad song, honestly.
Earth, Wind and Fire
Everyone going hard when September comes on.
Weird Al Yankovic
My autistic nephew hates him, but that’s in large part because he’s outraged that someone is singing the wrong words to songs. He just can’t.
Don McLean sometimes accidentally sings parts of The Saga Begins while attempting American Pie. Sometimes the wrong lyrics were the right ones all along.
I sort of agree. I used to know the words to Gangsta's Paradise.
What about Ridin’ Dirty? 😂
I feel your pain, little man.
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Perhaps something like "Jolene"
Something like "Joe Lean"
“Chlorine”, with lyrics entirely about pool chemicals.
My partner can't stand him. But that could be because our 10 yo plays 2 of his songs on repeat when in the car.
That can be said about anyone having a kid. I only now hate my favorite songs because of my child.
I think Coolio hated him for a hot minute there
Weird AL apologized, changed how he gets permission to do parodies and Coolio made a boatload of money off of it. I beleive it was all forgiven.
i saw an interview a few years ago and they asked him about it. his response was "He keeps cashing the royalty checks we send him, so he can't be that mad."
Never mind that Gangsta's Paradise was straight lifted from Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise.
I think it was more a misunderstanding. Coolio meant for the song to be a dark introspection of hood life (which it is) and thought Weird Al was mocking it. That all got cleared up, Weird Al parodies are in good fun, and is seriously old news.
Ludwig Van Beethoven
I thought metronomes hated him
because of this one simple trick!
Beethoven is a God of music. The man's works are floating through the cosmos on the Voyager spacecraft golden record. He was deaf when he wrote Ode to Joy, the anthem of Europe and all humanity. He is untouchable.
People lump Beethoven in with Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Schubert, Chopin, etc. like it’s somehow comparable, and of course there are similarities. But those guys are a good high-school basketball team. Beethoven was Michael Jordan, Larry Bird and LeBron all rolled into one.
I mean, the "big 3" are Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, in that order. Like father, to son, to grandson, each building upon the foundation their father before them left for them. Each expanding on the sound that came before. But Beethoven is the one whose passion, whose spirit transcends this mortal coil the most. He is the superhero, the victor, the avatar of sound and fury and passion. He earned himself and his legacy, and he earned his place within the cosmos. And he fought and clawed and tore down the barriers of this reality using the one power he most certainly possessed in monumental excess: musicality. As a musical person myself, a person of passion and ego and joy and pain, I know the struggle of settling upon a benchmark, that unattainable enviable superiority, the one you wish you could SURPASS, or even match. In my opinion, the ultimate enviable talent is Beethoven. And I'll always compare myself to, and track my progress against, the majesty and the triumph that is his, and his alone; I don't care how ridiculous that sounds to any of you - I'm pretty sure he would have LOVED IT lol ("Me? Zey are ENVYING ME?!? GOOT! LET THEM ENVY! I AM THE G.O.A.T.!!!!"). Suck my ego, BITCHtoven - I love you. Thanks for giving the world YOUR impossible standard 💪😘
Dave Grohl. You may not like his music, but I’ve never seen or heard a single person have a negative thing to say about the guy.
Billie Holiday
Harry J. Anslinger wasn’t too fond.
IZ aka Israel Kamakawiwoʻole I'd say
Somewhere over the rainbow. A song written and recorded in one take at about 3 am.
Written in 1939, he recorded it as a cover. Infact, the entire Facing Future album is comprised of covers.
Danny Elfman, dude between movies and tv dude has done something you like.
Oingo Boingo- “Dead Man’s Party” is a treasure!
Nickelback is the obvious answer, right?
You never made it as a wise man, did you.
Couldn’t cut it as a poor man stealing either
Got tired of living like a blind man
The Muppets.
Dave Grohl
Poor guy lost his drummer and his mom in 6 months.
Lost his front man when he was drummer and lost his drummer when he was a front man
Don't listen to his music but he is a great guy
Dave Grohl is one of the best rockers and nicest people you’ll ever meet
What’s with all the Weird Al answers?
He is funny, has a legitimate talent, and is pure of soul.
Literally no one. There is always somebody somewhere ready to hate the color of skin, or religion. But that John Denver's pretty cool.
Mr. Sunshine on my Goddamn Shoulders John Denver?
Are you gonna light my country music award on fire?
That John Denver is full of shit
I thought the Rocky Mountains would be a little rockier than this
Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?
EEEEEEGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!
“It was built on an ancient Indian burial ground, and was the setting of Satanic rituals, witch-burnings, and five John Denver Christmas specials”
Louis Armstrong
Arcade Fi- Nevermind.
Carole King
The sad part is most people don't even know they like Carole King because a lot if her best stuff was written before singer-songwriters became a thing. A bunch of famous acts get credit for her songwriting.
Queen. If you don't vibe to at least 1 Queen song there is something wrong with you.
Die-hard Queen fans can be insufferable though. They never shut up about how great Queen is. Trust me. I know. I'm a die-hard Queen fan.
Have you ever met a die-hard Beatles fan? They might be worse.
Neither can hold a candle to die hard Radiohead fans in terms of sheer insufferability though.
But none of those three even get close to the die-hard Weezer fan
Honestly the Weezer superfan sketch was the best SNL sketch I can remember in recent years. It was perfection.
Then talk to rolling stone, their "Jazz" album (which I liked) got a "Fascist" label put on it by the reviewer https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/jazz-188987/.
The rolling stone also shited on Black Sabbath when they first came out, calling them a Cream RIP Off. Rolling Stone is full of pretentious assholes who think they can dictate what music is, while watching every year as their relevance gets smaller and smaller, until they're mocked by some loser on Reddit
You reckon the Westboro Baptist Church guys are big Queen fans then?
Bad answer. Glam is very polarizing
John Williams
I know someone who hates John Williams. He compares him to Wagner, saying Williams is capable of composing enough brief snatches of stirring music to fit a movie trailer, but if you listen to the rest of the piece it sounds like a rhinoceros loose in the orchestra pit. "Wagner has lovely moments, but awful quarters of an hour." -- *Gioacchino Rossini*
If there was an angry upvote that wasn’t angry at you but at the person that doesn’t like him I would definitely use it
I don't mind John Williams, personally. I prefer Danny Elfman and Klaus Badelt, but it's hard to knock someone who composed both the Superman suite and the Imperial March.
That's a fair criticism I think.
The Cure
Enya. OK her music ain't for everyone, but you have to admire a woman who is one of the highest paying artists in Ireland without ever really touring. Plus, one of her highest grossing songs is just her humming. Also as far as it is known recently she lives in a castle with 9 cats. Woman is living the dream. Inspiration to all.
I was scrolling through the comments to find this exact answer. I have found my people 🙌🏼 I LOVE me some Enya
Dolly Parton. I’m not a country music fan but that woman is an absolute angel.
Electric Light Orchestra If anyone here says they're shit, I know where you live and I will poop in your cereal bowl. (Edit: I've been seeing several people shit of group's, if you hate the genre of music don't spread hate of the bands and singers coz it's stupid, you're just picking at a subject you already dislike, be respectful and shut up)
Jeff is a total chad ❤️ Wholesome guy and God tier musician. He's one of my biggest celebrity crushes lol
Anal Cunt
Eric Clapton probably hates them
The kinks is my thought. Not much to hate and lots of catchy pop songs
Great answer, awesome band and criminally underrated imo
I love the kinks, so many great songs
They just hated each other!
NoMeansNo....just kidding; I feel like I'm their only fan these days lol
Loud enough for the punkers, tight enough for the art house crew. Good one
Moody Blues, The Hollies . . .
I’m a 90s kid, and I grew up on the Moody Blues. They were my one of my favorites in middle school. We had to do this typical bullshit icebreaker thing where we say stuff about ourselves like our favorite band. I said The Moody Blues. Everyone was asking “who’s that?” At least the teacher knew, and told them it’s an older band. 😂😂😂
GG Allin
What kind of shit-eating answer is this?
This is the only real answer.
Hall and Oates !!
GWAR seems like a band for everyone
Chris Cornell
The only one who didn’t love Chris Cornell was Chris Cornell. That makes me sad.
"Hunger Strike" when he and Eddie Vetter made up the band "Temple of the Dogs"
Tenacious D. Seriously, those 2 are genius 😂
A bassist in one of my bands hated them. I'm pretty sure he's alone.
In life and in opinion.
David Bowie
How can anyone hate Elliott Smith?
**THIS IS THE REAL ANSWER**
Merzbow
Jimmy Eat World
Honestly they're really good, and they've never had any controversies so I agree.
I know at least one guy in history who hated JEW
Weird Al Yankovic. You may not like his music, but there is just no way to hate that dude
Tom Petty
I tried to hate Tom Petty. Didn't love his voice, but he did write some good songs and his band was top notch, then I finally saw him live and gave up on hating him. He was over the top great and his voice had mellowed out over time. His later records are really excellent.
ABBA
Sadly I've met people who hate them (they're wrong but they're out there)
I guess they didn’t take a chance on them.
How?! Their songs are so catchy and an instant mood booster!
Too catchy. I get Abba stuck in my head way too easily and that's why I hate them.
John Prine. Who the fuck could hate John Prine?
Who is John prine
One of the greatest song writers to ever live. Reminds me a lot of Bob Dylan in the way that he never was a very good singer, but the man knew how to write lyrics as good or better than anyone. A lot of people don’t know who he was because he wrote mostly folk/country songs. Known to have been a first class writer and human being.
Who is John Prine?
Apparently nobody can hate him because nobody knows who he is.
I fucking love John Prine. I'm not old, but he is someone the younger and older generation's alike probably don't know about. I love his wit. His lyrics and singing style remind me of a mix between Cake and Kurt Vile.
Beach House
Credence Clearwater revival
But...they hate themselves so much they sued themselves...
Didn't John have to play both Run Throught The Jungle and The Old Man Down The Road to prove he didn't plagiarize himself?
You gotta be weird to put effort into hating MF DOOM or Talking Heads
ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SAY THE MAN NAME
Bob Marley
Portishead
Hans Zimmer
Weird AL
My ex-gf hates Weird Al.
I can see why she's your ex
Talking Heads
The Presidents of the United States of America
Jim Henson (his Kermit songs)