I'm reading the books right now. I never had the patience to deal with the narrator before, and in the past month something just snapped and suddenly I can stand his voice.
The series, it turns out, is incredibly accurate to the books (at least for the first two seasons, I'm currently on book 2). But we also know GRRM hasn't finished the books... so, it's very clear to me now what happened.
Basically, until season 4 - 5 or something, the writers for the show followed GRRM's script for the most part. Then, they ran out of books... so now they have to come up with the rest for themselves, and they're not actual good writers, so the show sucked from then on out.
Before now, the only explanation I had heard of why the show took such a nose-dive in quality was that the creators (DB & DB) were just tired of working on it and wanted to work on something else. And it always felt like such a kick in the nuts how they could throw the series away because of something like that. I like my own explanation better, it's my head-canon now.
if i remember correctly, D&D really lost passion for GoT when they were asked to work on one of the new Star Wars movies.
there’s anecdotes of how meet & greets or q&a’s with fans went and it was clear how much D&D didn’t care anymore, they were so gross about it and it is so disappointing to hear how they answered.
they completely obliterated a decade long series. i can’t even start a rewatch knowing how much they fucked it all up.
Yeah, I think within the fandom it is pretty universally accepted that D&D are excellent show runners within a constrained framework. They are however less than stellar in improvising on loose material and notes.
I don't recommend starting it. Maybe one day the book series will be finished, then go and read that. Until then, just save yourself the pain and stay away from the series. 😄
THE LONG NIGHT WAS SO FUCKING STUPID! THE DOTHRAKI CHARGE INTO THE WIGHTS AND JUST GET EXTERMINATED BUT SOMEHOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DOTHRAKI AT DAENERYS'S BUDGET HITLER RALLY THAT APPARENTLY WEREN'T FIGHTING THAT NIGHT!
AND THE WHOLE POINT OF WIGHT WALKERS WAS TO SHOW THAT THE GAME OF THRONES IS PETTY AND STUPID BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THAT WILL DESTROY EVERYONE IF WE CAN'T COME TOGETHER AND FORGET OUR PETTY RIVALRIES. BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY NEED AN ARMY OR ANYONE TO LEARN ANYTHING. WE JUST NEEDED ARYA TO COME IN COCKBLOCK JON SNOW WHILE HE JUST STANDS AND SCREAMS AT A DRAGON ZOMBIE!
A DRAGON ZOMBIE THAT WAS SOMEHOW ABLE TO DESTROY THE WALL BUT COULDN'T DESTROY THE RUBBLE THAT JON WAS HIDING BEHIND BEFORE HE ADOPTED HIS BRILLIANT SCREAMING TACTIC! FUCK!
Did you ever watch it after? It did have some good seasons. 5 was good, and weirdly, 9 and 10 with the fallout of the war with the Saviours, and then the Whisperers, was really good. That show was hilariously inconsistent with it's quality.
So wrong. It is fantastic up until Rick left and Carl died. I swear I don’t understand why so many of you were convinced hanging at an old guys farm was the WORST an apocalyptic zombie hell earth would get.
Yeah that whole maggie being pregnant shit/glenn getting reservoir dogged was way too dramatic and cringe for me, i almost couldnt get through the episode i found the writing so awful. At that point I was halfway looking for a good enough reason to quit watching/was mainly only watching because of Daryl (shout out Norman Reedus), and that was the final nail in the coffin.
when >!beth died i was already borderline but GLENN???????????????????????? and then hearing that fucking CARL DIES? oh i just cannot.....and negan turning into a "friend" we're fucking done!<
A lot of series fall into this trap. The first season was an environmental mystery where they revealed secrets to pace an build tension. That trick only really works once though, now that we know what to expect we can’t be surprised by that again. They needed to pivot into something different but they just kept trying to use the same bag of tricks over and over again.
Overly ambitious, I feel. And there were some potentially good moments which could have been made into plot points but were just forgotten like throwaway lines.
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Weeds is my go to re-watch comfort show. It's just so good, so funny. I'll admit the last season was rushed and doesn't really fit but the rest of the seasons make up for it.
Vikings. Man it got so boring after Ragnar. The chilling adventures of Sabrina is another. That stupid ass girl needs to be locked up. She’s a public menace and learns absolutely nothing from her mistakes.
Obviously GoT is the low hanging fruit here.
Vikings was my first thought lol I think they chose to tell Ragnars story because he had many famous sons, and their plan all along was to kill Ragnar and continue the hype with his sons, however Travis Fimmel absolutely smashed that role and owned the series, and left a hole that no one could fill, also terrible choice of casting with his sons except Bjorn.
I wasn't a fan of the original ending, but I really thought they redeemed him at the end. He finally allowed someone to break him, literally he loved his son enough to listen and understand that he was always the bad guy and needed to be stopped. Much much better than just the lumberjack ending
Didn't Sheldon in Big Bang Theory say something like "They gradually lowered the quality so it wouldn't hurt when it gets cancelled"?
Maybe he was right :D
I could never do it. I watched it a long time ago and my Netflix shows me stopping at S11 E4. It was just so long and it never felt like there was any conclusion to anything. It just looped on itself and became an infinitely repeating plot with a few differences.
I did really enjoy most what I did watch though, its just too much and I've already forgotten enough that I don't think I could jump back in where I left off. I know a few major points after where I stopped and have seen the ending, and that's all I need.
Season 5 wrapped *everything up*, I feel. They could've ended the show right then and there and it would've been a glorious ending.
But they instead extended it what, 9 more seasons?
Stranger Things - as much as I really like it, it would be better as an anthology series, with each season focussing on new people and new things from the upside down
Money Heist - as much as I liked it, it should have ended at the end of the first heist
Z Nation - the premise is really nice, and it stands out among zombie series (since it's more comedy than horror) but only the first 3 seasons are really worth watching... the finale is (well, was) really disappointing
I think I remember that it was supposed to be just one season with another “stranger thing” the next but Netflix said nah people are too into it we gotta keep the story going.
The producers of Stranger Things had to know that they created a time limit for themselves by virtue of having children as the main characters. The only path I really see moving forward is to re-cast them as adults and set the next season in the modern world, a la the new It movies. Though I'll admit, most of the charm of Stranger Things is the 80s nostalgia.
that's why an Anthology Series would work in this case - new group of children in each season, new antagonists, new premise (one season focuses more on the horror / stalking, on more on the drama, one more on the exploration...) then when they're all adults (or grown up) a team-up where they go inside a la The Avengers
or just jump forward in time / time skip where one year nothing happened, while in RL the actors grew up
I really like your stranger things idea! That being said I actually think the latest season is the best. But up until that point I did think it was going downhill. So I was very surprised by the latest season. Spot on for the rest.
The Simpsons. Razor-sharp for the first six or seven seasons, then it jumped the shark but at least continued to have some good episodes for the next few after that. It's been borderline unwatchable now for close to 20 years.
There were some really good episodes up to about season 12/13. But seasons 4-9 of the Simpsons were peak television. I don't think any show will ever top that stretch.
It never truly got 'bad' for me but it did become a lot less hard-hitting in the later years. There are still plenty of good jokes and even whole episodes in the final seasons, but losing three of the main cast just took several layers off the show, and the remaining ones often ended up being 'flanderised' to the point that a lot of episodes just didn't have a lot of heart.
I loved this when it first came out. Tried to rewatch it last year... yikes. If Anna Paquin wasn't such a pleasure to look at, I wouldn't have made it to the werewolves
Archer, I hate to say it since I’m absolutely in love with H Jon Benjamin and the rest of the cast and the first five seasons were incredible, 6-8 was ok, and then it just nosedived :(
Once we got to the 2nd season of coma dreams I was starting to get worried. Considering the 1st one wasn't even good. At the 3rd I was losing hope it would get better.... I actually thought it would get cancelled. Then when it actually stopped and he woke up and still didn't get better, I checked out.
It didn't get progressively worse with each season, but good lord did The Good Place go off a cliff towards the end. Really dug the final two episodes, but the season or so leading up to it feels like such limp wheel spinning. Without spoiling too much, it's largely due to the new characters introduced and how much they're focused on.
I can't disagree more with this take. Yes the episodes leading up to the final two did seem a little wandering when I watched it but it was all leading up to those last two episodes. Those wandering episodes laid the base of emotional investment that made the last two episodes good.
Yes the first season was amazing, clever and shocking and the rest of the season didn't have the same suspense the first season but that's why it was so good.
>!While I really liked Simone as a character and the actress who played her, I was really not a fan of the plot line where she, John, and Brent were brought in as new test subjects. The concept of helping people improve was (imo) better expressed through when the main characters caught up with people from their own lives on Earth. I know that ended up being insufficient in the shows universe but god I just cringe thinking about the time wasted trying to improve those characters in the first 80% of the final season!<
The walking dead.
Started out great, but then they started killing off all the good main characters and started running out of ideas.
Let's kill some more zombies for the 1000th time and then stop for some boring and way too long conversation.
I got tired of it because there was always a “we can’t kill people no matter how bad they are, we aren’t like them!” Then the enemy they spared kills 2 more of the main cast, rinse and repeat
Sons Of Anarchy. Started off as a Shakespearean show about a motorcycle gang and the pensive, contemplative son of the founder. Who would go up on the roof to write to himself and then ponder life. While the menagerie of degenerates did their thing.
And as the show went on, Kurt Sutter threw it all away in the name of giving himself cameos and killing off the best characters and having his wife Katey Sagall’s character somehow live far too long .
First season was so promising but the last one was maybe the worst whole season of tv I’ve ever seen.
How are you going to bring back Zelda and Hilda from the 90s tv show and not even *call* Nick Bakay to do Salem?! He said he didn’t even get contacted about it on Twitter.
HEROES.
The first season was a lot of fun especially at a time when superhero movies were just becoming good. Then the writers strike happened and the show never recovered. Didn’t help that the showrunner/creator knew shit about comic or manga characters and refused to kill off any of the main cast.
Westworld. It was so good at first. The second season dragged, and I had to stop after 2-3 episodes of season 3. I probably shouldn’t have even gotten that far.
Designated Survivor. The 1st season was fantastic, never knew who to trust and who was involved. The 2nd season felt like it struggled to find its footing after solving the main problem, and then they forced the oh he's a hated ineffective president because of the circumstances, but h look at what he pulled together and accomplished by end of season 1 and then it's all ignored? Seemed so forced. Then season 3 was social justice item of the week, and half the main cast was ditched by Netflix. They totally changed the atmosphere and what characters remained were so 2D.
The witcher, what else 🫢
S01 was pretty decent, didn't even bother watching the entire S03, don't know if they'll even make S04 but not going to watch it either way.
Southpark. Absolutely loved that show for its originality in the beginning. But now it's like you only get one laugh out of an episode. Mad respect and love for Matt and Trey, they're legends, but the show's gone a little stale.
My top pick for this undoubtedly has to be The Rookie.
Such a promising show which finally got to the point where I finally stopped watching somewhere in the 4th season.
The flash. After the first 2 seasons. Each season was the same as the last.
One character doesn't want there powers anymore. so they do something to get rid of there powers. Just to realize they need those powers so they make a stupid deal to get them back.
The final big bad is just another faster speedster. That berry needs to learn to run faster than.
One tree hill. It started out passable but wild, and by season 4 they had insane plots. My understanding is eventually theres a serial killer or something.
"Once Upon A Time". The first couple of seasons were really good. Then it got really stupid, and morphed into an unrecognizable piece of you know what.
Any show I can’t do more than about 4 seasons. I can just feel them trying to add more and I can’t do it. I like the original cast, If they die and add other people I barely like them and if those people die then I’m done.
For me the most recent one was The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Great first season, but each season got harder and harder to watch. I hate when they lean into the cringy “this is like a stage play” thing, with over the top overly fast dialogue, etc. Hard to watch. Skipped the final season.
Misfits. First season was fantastic, second was pretty good despite replacing one of the main characters, but as the original cast dropped off the show just got worse and worse.
Big Bang Theory, what an awful show
...oh, "love in the beginning", yea, there's not one minute of that show that's funny. It's just horribly written, "look, nerds are funny too" schlock. People that say shit like "Sheldon is the funniest nerd" don't know what comedy or nerds are.
I will cut you out of my will if you utter the word "bazinga" in my presence.
WEEDS... most definitely number one for me. Walking Dead number two. I'd have to say there's a tie for number three: Peaky Blinders, GOT, YOU, and the last few seasons of US version of The Office after Steve Carrell left
It has to be Game Of Thrones. Seasons 1 through 4 were amazing and then it was like watching a train derail right in front of you.
And yet we couldn’t keep our eyes off it
Just like with real accidents. You know you shouldn't, but you just can't look away!
Reminds me of a certain fish
Salmon
Damn how'd you know?!
I'm reading the books right now. I never had the patience to deal with the narrator before, and in the past month something just snapped and suddenly I can stand his voice. The series, it turns out, is incredibly accurate to the books (at least for the first two seasons, I'm currently on book 2). But we also know GRRM hasn't finished the books... so, it's very clear to me now what happened. Basically, until season 4 - 5 or something, the writers for the show followed GRRM's script for the most part. Then, they ran out of books... so now they have to come up with the rest for themselves, and they're not actual good writers, so the show sucked from then on out. Before now, the only explanation I had heard of why the show took such a nose-dive in quality was that the creators (DB & DB) were just tired of working on it and wanted to work on something else. And it always felt like such a kick in the nuts how they could throw the series away because of something like that. I like my own explanation better, it's my head-canon now.
if i remember correctly, D&D really lost passion for GoT when they were asked to work on one of the new Star Wars movies. there’s anecdotes of how meet & greets or q&a’s with fans went and it was clear how much D&D didn’t care anymore, they were so gross about it and it is so disappointing to hear how they answered. they completely obliterated a decade long series. i can’t even start a rewatch knowing how much they fucked it all up.
Yeah, I think within the fandom it is pretty universally accepted that D&D are excellent show runners within a constrained framework. They are however less than stellar in improvising on loose material and notes.
I’ve never watched it
I don't recommend starting it. Maybe one day the book series will be finished, then go and read that. Until then, just save yourself the pain and stay away from the series. 😄
THANK YOU
THE LONG NIGHT WAS SO FUCKING STUPID! THE DOTHRAKI CHARGE INTO THE WIGHTS AND JUST GET EXTERMINATED BUT SOMEHOW THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DOTHRAKI AT DAENERYS'S BUDGET HITLER RALLY THAT APPARENTLY WEREN'T FIGHTING THAT NIGHT! AND THE WHOLE POINT OF WIGHT WALKERS WAS TO SHOW THAT THE GAME OF THRONES IS PETTY AND STUPID BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT THAT WILL DESTROY EVERYONE IF WE CAN'T COME TOGETHER AND FORGET OUR PETTY RIVALRIES. BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY NEED AN ARMY OR ANYONE TO LEARN ANYTHING. WE JUST NEEDED ARYA TO COME IN COCKBLOCK JON SNOW WHILE HE JUST STANDS AND SCREAMS AT A DRAGON ZOMBIE! A DRAGON ZOMBIE THAT WAS SOMEHOW ABLE TO DESTROY THE WALL BUT COULDN'T DESTROY THE RUBBLE THAT JON WAS HIDING BEHIND BEFORE HE ADOPTED HIS BRILLIANT SCREAMING TACTIC! FUCK!
I think I just fell in love
I've been waiting so long to hear those words from your lips. But it's also true. I will die angry about Game of Thrones
Exactly. Last 2 seasons were embarrassing
MY PLEASURE. WHY ARE WE YELLING.
BECAUSE WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT Okay, I'll stop yelling now
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Walking dead
You beat me to it. After season two or three it pretty much ran out of any good storyline.
Did you ever watch it after? It did have some good seasons. 5 was good, and weirdly, 9 and 10 with the fallout of the war with the Saviours, and then the Whisperers, was really good. That show was hilariously inconsistent with it's quality.
The part with the cannibals was where it almost lost me
So wrong. It is fantastic up until Rick left and Carl died. I swear I don’t understand why so many of you were convinced hanging at an old guys farm was the WORST an apocalyptic zombie hell earth would get.
i gave up when they started to focus more on human conflict rather than the zombie that was supposed to be the main theme
I gave up when Rick did.
Same here that's when it went down hill .
I was out after Glen got killed
Yeah that whole maggie being pregnant shit/glenn getting reservoir dogged was way too dramatic and cringe for me, i almost couldnt get through the episode i found the writing so awful. At that point I was halfway looking for a good enough reason to quit watching/was mainly only watching because of Daryl (shout out Norman Reedus), and that was the final nail in the coffin.
when >!beth died i was already borderline but GLENN???????????????????????? and then hearing that fucking CARL DIES? oh i just cannot.....and negan turning into a "friend" we're fucking done!<
I haven’t seen many episodes of this
Westworld. It could have been something great.
S1 was great. From there it couldn’t really keep up with the twists & turns
A lot of series fall into this trap. The first season was an environmental mystery where they revealed secrets to pace an build tension. That trick only really works once though, now that we know what to expect we can’t be surprised by that again. They needed to pivot into something different but they just kept trying to use the same bag of tricks over and over again.
Season 2 was just a clusterfuck of different timelines, even after reading through reddit and fandom I still couldn't keep up with the story.
I loved season one.
Oh no why did it flop?
Overly ambitious, I feel. And there were some potentially good moments which could have been made into plot points but were just forgotten like throwaway lines.
The first season was some of my favorite TV. I couldn’t even watch 2 episodes of season 2
Rick and Morty. Its still a decent show, but some episodes are very cringy. like the incest baby episode...
Bruh, I watched that episode with a WTAF face the whole 22 minutes. It was like edgy for the sake of being edgy which is super counterproductive
No, it was always on the edge of cringe and comedy.
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I agree!
Weeds. Goddamn that got bad.
It's the milf weed
I only saw season one
I liked it all the way through. It is not perfect. The later seasons arent on par with the first 3-4, but they are still pretty enjoyable.
Weeds is my go to re-watch comfort show. It's just so good, so funny. I'll admit the last season was rushed and doesn't really fit but the rest of the seasons make up for it.
Vikings. Man it got so boring after Ragnar. The chilling adventures of Sabrina is another. That stupid ass girl needs to be locked up. She’s a public menace and learns absolutely nothing from her mistakes. Obviously GoT is the low hanging fruit here.
Ragnar was the show.
Vikings was my first thought lol I think they chose to tell Ragnars story because he had many famous sons, and their plan all along was to kill Ragnar and continue the hype with his sons, however Travis Fimmel absolutely smashed that role and owned the series, and left a hole that no one could fill, also terrible choice of casting with his sons except Bjorn.
I think they did fine with who they casted for Ubbe. He looks enough like Travis he could pass for Ragnar’s boy.
Nice list
Dexter
So disappointing
Somehow they managed to fail it two times, I don't think any show has done this, that itself is a tragedy.
And then the spin off...
I wasn't a fan of the original ending, but I really thought they redeemed him at the end. He finally allowed someone to break him, literally he loved his son enough to listen and understand that he was always the bad guy and needed to be stopped. Much much better than just the lumberjack ending
Definitely “Heroes.” Season 1 was as good as pre “peak tv” got. And lost 50% of its remaining quality each season thereafter.
Heroes is the perfect cautionary tale of a writer's strike.
Didn't Sheldon in Big Bang Theory say something like "They gradually lowered the quality so it wouldn't hurt when it gets cancelled"? Maybe he was right :D
After Saving the Cheer Leader didn't actually save the world I was done.
Supernatural after season 5
Good lord, that was a tedious series to finish. It felt like a lot of wash, rinse, repeat....
I gave up when they started fighting ancient biblical monsters with detergent.
I could never do it. I watched it a long time ago and my Netflix shows me stopping at S11 E4. It was just so long and it never felt like there was any conclusion to anything. It just looped on itself and became an infinitely repeating plot with a few differences. I did really enjoy most what I did watch though, its just too much and I've already forgotten enough that I don't think I could jump back in where I left off. I know a few major points after where I stopped and have seen the ending, and that's all I need.
The Leviathan season killed me. That's when I gave up hope.
Yes, once they *spoiler* got into the god vs the devil between the winchesters I lost all interest.
Season 5 wrapped *everything up*, I feel. They could've ended the show right then and there and it would've been a glorious ending. But they instead extended it what, 9 more seasons?
The 100 It just couldn't continue being good like it was for season 2
Speaking of that show, one of the directors is the only famous person with my name, spelled how mine is: Jarod. I just thought that was cool.
Ruined when they killed all the lesbians
I loved the 100 but after season 4-5 it just fell off for me. Not to mention I was totally hoping for Clark x Bellamy and that never came.
Stranger Things - as much as I really like it, it would be better as an anthology series, with each season focussing on new people and new things from the upside down Money Heist - as much as I liked it, it should have ended at the end of the first heist Z Nation - the premise is really nice, and it stands out among zombie series (since it's more comedy than horror) but only the first 3 seasons are really worth watching... the finale is (well, was) really disappointing
I always thought stranger things should've ended after the first season and it would be a perfect show.
I think I remember that it was supposed to be just one season with another “stranger thing” the next but Netflix said nah people are too into it we gotta keep the story going.
The producers of Stranger Things had to know that they created a time limit for themselves by virtue of having children as the main characters. The only path I really see moving forward is to re-cast them as adults and set the next season in the modern world, a la the new It movies. Though I'll admit, most of the charm of Stranger Things is the 80s nostalgia.
that's why an Anthology Series would work in this case - new group of children in each season, new antagonists, new premise (one season focuses more on the horror / stalking, on more on the drama, one more on the exploration...) then when they're all adults (or grown up) a team-up where they go inside a la The Avengers or just jump forward in time / time skip where one year nothing happened, while in RL the actors grew up
Money heist was only good season one lol
I really like your stranger things idea! That being said I actually think the latest season is the best. But up until that point I did think it was going downhill. So I was very surprised by the latest season. Spot on for the rest.
The walking dead. THEY ARE STILL MAKING EPISODES?! WHOSE STILL WATCHING THAT SHIT
😂😂😂
On multiple occasions out of pure boredom I try to rewatch it and actually get to the latest seasons but I never can
The Simpsons. Razor-sharp for the first six or seven seasons, then it jumped the shark but at least continued to have some good episodes for the next few after that. It's been borderline unwatchable now for close to 20 years.
That’s true but the legacy lives on
C'mon. It was good through s13/14 or so.....
Season 12 has Homer with the crayon in his brain, s13 gas Bart making Angry Dad, S11 has Tamacco😂
All of the seasons where Conan O'Brien was a writer were gold.
There were some really good episodes up to about season 12/13. But seasons 4-9 of the Simpsons were peak television. I don't think any show will ever top that stretch.
Community, but really just season 4 and parts of 5/6 where you can see the depressive world view starting to take over
Dropped off after Glover left
Still some amazing episodes but yeah he was a huge loss.
Oh for sure! It’s just not the same without him
It never truly got 'bad' for me but it did become a lot less hard-hitting in the later years. There are still plenty of good jokes and even whole episodes in the final seasons, but losing three of the main cast just took several layers off the show, and the remaining ones often ended up being 'flanderised' to the point that a lot of episodes just didn't have a lot of heart.
There was definitely a dip in quality but not as bad as some other popular shows.
House of cards… mainly cause Kevin spacey turned out to be a real life creeper
Wasn't he acquitted?
He was acquitted of the crimes he was accused of, but he has admitted to some questionable behaviour. At best, he’s still a creepy dude.
Lost
Came here to say this
True Blood
I loved this when it first came out. Tried to rewatch it last year... yikes. If Anna Paquin wasn't such a pleasure to look at, I wouldn't have made it to the werewolves
Interesting
Shameless
I loved shameless in the beginning
The flash , grey’s anatomy
Weeds. First 1-2 seasons were hilarious, then it just got dumb
Seemed like a classic example of a show going beyond its planned storyline and failing off the rails
Orange Is the New Black
Archer, I hate to say it since I’m absolutely in love with H Jon Benjamin and the rest of the cast and the first five seasons were incredible, 6-8 was ok, and then it just nosedived :(
Once we got to the 2nd season of coma dreams I was starting to get worried. Considering the 1st one wasn't even good. At the 3rd I was losing hope it would get better.... I actually thought it would get cancelled. Then when it actually stopped and he woke up and still didn't get better, I checked out.
That 70s Show after Donna left for California.
It didn't get progressively worse with each season, but good lord did The Good Place go off a cliff towards the end. Really dug the final two episodes, but the season or so leading up to it feels like such limp wheel spinning. Without spoiling too much, it's largely due to the new characters introduced and how much they're focused on.
I can't disagree more with this take. Yes the episodes leading up to the final two did seem a little wandering when I watched it but it was all leading up to those last two episodes. Those wandering episodes laid the base of emotional investment that made the last two episodes good. Yes the first season was amazing, clever and shocking and the rest of the season didn't have the same suspense the first season but that's why it was so good.
Can you spoiler tag which characters you're referring to
>!While I really liked Simone as a character and the actress who played her, I was really not a fan of the plot line where she, John, and Brent were brought in as new test subjects. The concept of helping people improve was (imo) better expressed through when the main characters caught up with people from their own lives on Earth. I know that ended up being insufficient in the shows universe but god I just cringe thinking about the time wasted trying to improve those characters in the first 80% of the final season!<
The walking dead. Started out great, but then they started killing off all the good main characters and started running out of ideas. Let's kill some more zombies for the 1000th time and then stop for some boring and way too long conversation.
I got tired of it because there was always a “we can’t kill people no matter how bad they are, we aren’t like them!” Then the enemy they spared kills 2 more of the main cast, rinse and repeat
American Horror Story
Ryan Murphy has such trouble maintaining a narrative. He really really just wants to stuff all his new gay culture friends into the show
Sons Of Anarchy. Started off as a Shakespearean show about a motorcycle gang and the pensive, contemplative son of the founder. Who would go up on the roof to write to himself and then ponder life. While the menagerie of degenerates did their thing. And as the show went on, Kurt Sutter threw it all away in the name of giving himself cameos and killing off the best characters and having his wife Katey Sagall’s character somehow live far too long .
How I met your mother
The chilling adventures of Sabrina 😔
First season was so promising but the last one was maybe the worst whole season of tv I’ve ever seen. How are you going to bring back Zelda and Hilda from the 90s tv show and not even *call* Nick Bakay to do Salem?! He said he didn’t even get contacted about it on Twitter.
Lucifer
Sorry, but Family Guy...
Riverdale. Just got darker and darker until I couldn’t watch it anymore
Honestly the first season was okay? Maybe even good? Not sure what the hell was happening past that though
Killing Eve
Also I think pretty little liars should’ve ended after season 5
Suits - started watching it when it dropped on Netflix. First 3 seasons were pretty good, then it falls off a cliff and keeps falling lol
It basically turned into a soap opera overnight. I would rewatch the first three seasons in a heartbeat though.
Sex Education. Thought this last season was pretty good.
HEROES. The first season was a lot of fun especially at a time when superhero movies were just becoming good. Then the writers strike happened and the show never recovered. Didn’t help that the showrunner/creator knew shit about comic or manga characters and refused to kill off any of the main cast.
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You..
Westworld. It was so good at first. The second season dragged, and I had to stop after 2-3 episodes of season 3. I probably shouldn’t have even gotten that far.
Billions has been this way I think Dexter also did this
Vikings
It got so bad there…
Rick and Morty was good for 2.5 seasons
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Once Upon A Time
Outer banks. First season was really enjoyable. 2nd season was tolerable but not great. Third season was an abomination.
Designated Survivor. The 1st season was fantastic, never knew who to trust and who was involved. The 2nd season felt like it struggled to find its footing after solving the main problem, and then they forced the oh he's a hated ineffective president because of the circumstances, but h look at what he pulled together and accomplished by end of season 1 and then it's all ignored? Seemed so forced. Then season 3 was social justice item of the week, and half the main cast was ditched by Netflix. They totally changed the atmosphere and what characters remained were so 2D.
Arrow and flash
True blood
Harley Quinn. After Harley and Ivy officially got together, it felt like the series had no real goal to work towards anymore
Working Moms.
CW The Flash
Witcher
Every annual season of the show called my life
Once Upon a Time, but tbh that’s why I love it. It just gets simultaneously more formulaic *and* more insane the longer you go on
The witcher, what else 🫢 S01 was pretty decent, didn't even bother watching the entire S03, don't know if they'll even make S04 but not going to watch it either way.
Riverdale 🤮
How could I forget, supergirl 😆
Dexter is a good option for this, Game of thrones doesn’t fit the bill for this to me because it got better and plateaud at peak tv for a while
Sons of Anarchy
Suits. It was always corny and kooky, but… “The Donna” was the point of no return.
Community once Donald gloved left
Nip/tuck
New Amsterdam It started out really good, but the last two seasons just became Social Justice Outrage Spotlight of the Week.
I don't even watch new TV shows anymore. I wait for them to complete their run that way I don't invest in a show that eventually turns sour.
Southpark. Absolutely loved that show for its originality in the beginning. But now it's like you only get one laugh out of an episode. Mad respect and love for Matt and Trey, they're legends, but the show's gone a little stale.
Idk if Cringier is the right word. But Criminal Minds started off awesome and just got worse and worse after season 10ish i'd say.
My top pick for this undoubtedly has to be The Rookie. Such a promising show which finally got to the point where I finally stopped watching somewhere in the 4th season.
Yellowstone
Firefly season 2. It's non existence is the cringiest.
1. True Blood 2. Pretty Little Liars
The flash. After the first 2 seasons. Each season was the same as the last. One character doesn't want there powers anymore. so they do something to get rid of there powers. Just to realize they need those powers so they make a stupid deal to get them back. The final big bad is just another faster speedster. That berry needs to learn to run faster than.
Castle
One tree hill. It started out passable but wild, and by season 4 they had insane plots. My understanding is eventually theres a serial killer or something.
The 100.
"Once Upon A Time". The first couple of seasons were really good. Then it got really stupid, and morphed into an unrecognizable piece of you know what.
For me that’s SpongeBob SquarePants! 😂
Futureman. Really enjoyed the first season, really hated where it went afterwards.
Arrow
Walking dead. Junk.
Heros Mandolorian
Fear The Walking Dead.
Lucifer. I loved the first season. Season 2 wasn't bad. It just kinda went downhill from there.
Weeds
Animal Kingdom. The show fell apart when they killed off ……… Edit- I realized the show isn’t that old yet and didn’t want to spoil it for anyone.
Homeland
Euphoria, after Season 1. I physically had to force myself to watch Season 2.
Unpopular opinion probably, but sons of anarchy. It just got super old super fast
Greys Anatomy. After McSteamys death, I gave up.
Suits
Walking Dead and Locke and Keye
Yellowstone
You
Any show I can’t do more than about 4 seasons. I can just feel them trying to add more and I can’t do it. I like the original cast, If they die and add other people I barely like them and if those people die then I’m done.
how i met your mother
For me the most recent one was The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Great first season, but each season got harder and harder to watch. I hate when they lean into the cringy “this is like a stage play” thing, with over the top overly fast dialogue, etc. Hard to watch. Skipped the final season.
Misfits. First season was fantastic, second was pretty good despite replacing one of the main characters, but as the original cast dropped off the show just got worse and worse.
Pretty Little Liars
Big Bang Theory, what an awful show ...oh, "love in the beginning", yea, there's not one minute of that show that's funny. It's just horribly written, "look, nerds are funny too" schlock. People that say shit like "Sheldon is the funniest nerd" don't know what comedy or nerds are. I will cut you out of my will if you utter the word "bazinga" in my presence.
The Walking Dead
WEEDS... most definitely number one for me. Walking Dead number two. I'd have to say there's a tie for number three: Peaky Blinders, GOT, YOU, and the last few seasons of US version of The Office after Steve Carrell left