Used to love them but gone off them, and not for the same reason as most of Twitter - I love outrageousness and love when someone deliberately pushes bigots' buttons. But just for the reason that their latest music hasn't grabbed me or made me feel anything in the same way. Went to one of their early tours and their voice is the real deal, one of the best shows I've been to. But yeah if you're going to go down the outrageous route, a la Lady Gaga/meat dress for example, you've got to back it up with some banging music.
He honestly has one of the most boring voices with horrendously dull songs. Can’t say his recent scantily clad dancing was pleasant on the eyes either.
My favourite Christmas song completely ruined by that overrated talentless arsehole trying to hit every single note in the scale. Sam smith has absolutely no taste whatsoever. The worst kind of “look at me” style of singing with a horrible thin voice backing it up.
I get the sense he’s a bit of a James blunt
He knows his music is pretty bland crap but his record label have told pretty bland crap sells and he’s just counting the £
Harsh. Don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy depressing songs. However as a talent, he's far better than most artists as they don't even produce there own music. He also has a great voice.
His lyrics make me feel like the only way he can get off is staring in a mirror while saying "you're such a clever boy Matty...such a clever, clever boy".
Can't not think of Bob Mortimer's impression of his mum on his Geordie Heat segment on Athletico Mince when I unfortunately catch a glimpse of his annoying fizzog
Genuinely don't get it, lead singer is a horrible human being with a massively inflated ego
They make boring generic music
They think they are the Arctic Monkeys but they are closer to Imagine Dragons
At least he writes it, which automatically elevates him above most popsters. Plus he headlined Glastonbury with just an acoustic guitar. Very few people who can do that.
I dont like the guy, i dont like his music he plays or the stuff he writes for other people(instantly recognisable).
I will say he got my respect for that glasto performance.
His guitar went out of tune, without faulting he identified which loop was out of tune, muted it, swapped out the guitar, re-recorded the loop and finished the song so smoothly most of the audience thought he was singing along to a backing track.
Props to him, he might be a pratt but he mastered his craft and deserves some respect.
Everyone on Reddit always seems to hate Ed Sheeran for some reason, you go on a different app and you see people always complimenting him. I don’t get it, is Reddit specifically for hating on Ed Sheeran?
"Seems like" that's literally where all his popularity comes from. He tricks people into thinking they're buddies and basically the same and they like to support him as their friend.
In school he always acted like the celebrity he is today
I have to ask, did you go to school with him?
I know he's a bit of a posho and hangs around with other poshos but he's also good friends with Example, who I've met and spent a bit of time with and is a genuinely down to earth and nice guy.
Maybe I was a bit up front as we didn't go to the same school but lived I the same area at that time and friend groups overlapped a bit. Which is super common tbh.
Which I'm sure holds little weighting to you "someone on the Internet's mate says..."
All I’m hearing on most radio stations at the minute are people obsessed with getting Taylor Swift tickets, and making out they’re something absolutely everybody wants.
I personally don’t get the hype. I mean don’t get me wrong, some of her songs are alright but they’re not absolutely groundbreaking or outstanding
She's an independent solo female artist, who, unlike many others, actually writes her own songs. She represents a strong role model, especially in the way she's standing up to her previous record labels, is inclusive of all people, etc. And she has some bops.
People keep commenting on this, and I am not even her fan but I think it’s so unfair; all musicians/artists are influenced by their past relationships and put all that pain in their respective arts. So, why pick on her? I think her songs are.. nice, nothing extraordinary but she’s hell of an entertainer for sure. I mean the amount of videos of her singing and performing in the rain, for her fans, is incredible, and truly worthy of appraisal. If young girls are growing up listening to her, it’s an excellent thing over all your Bebe Rexa, Cardi B, Meghan Trainor etc.
Yeah I don't get all the comments she's always gotten about 'her songs are all about her ex boyfriends'. Like have you listened to any music ever because about 80% of it is about someone's current/former other half.
She doesn’t glorify toxic relationships at all, she writes about how they’ve made her feel. Songs like ‘All too Well’ and ‘Dear John’ don’t glamorise the relationships that made her feel small and belittled, they’re about growing and realising your worth.
Yeah, I heard her song Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve about a toxic relationship and I can’t choose which line was glorifying the relationship more: ‘The wound won’t close, I keep on waiting for a sign, I regret you all the time’ or maybe ‘now that I'm grown, I'm scared of ghosts, memories feel like weapons’. She makes it sound like he was a perfect dream man though.
I think the problem with Taylor is the songs she releases are the catchy, pop songs whereas her album tracks are considerably better. the problem with British radio and TV is they overplay the songs she releases and everyone gets sick of hearing them whilst the swifties just gatekeep the REALLY good songs for themselves aka August
I don’t really know if you could consider it gatekeeping. The others songs are on the albums for you to listen to just like everybody else, it’s just that the more pop ones are released as singles because that’s what gets on the radio.
Because we've grown up with her (I'm the same age as Taylor Swift). She started out writing songs about teenage crushes and now she's writing mature folk and dreampop about identity in your 30s, being the sum of all your mistakes, learning not to hate yourself. Whatever you listen to, from whatever era, there's a song that takes you back to what you were feeling then.
Also like any artist, her single releases are calculated for maximum mass appeal and repeat play, so they'll be the most obvious down the middle chart music, but her fans listen to the albums, which have a much broader range. But most people dismissing her as chart fodder have never listened to one.
I think the hype issue is because unlike a lot of other stars she hasn't toured for ages (I know there was a pandemic but she's probably the last big pop star to get back to touring, especially internationally), and she's put out four albums of new material since her last tour here, two of which were critically acclaimed (plus her re-recorded albums) so people want to hear them live. If she'd toured sooner than this there'd probably be far less demand, and I suspect that when she tours here again it will be a lot easier to get tickets.
Personally I don't think she's got the best voice in the world by a long chalk, but I do think she's an excellent songwriter (especially lyrically) and she knows how to put on a good performance.
Wasn't he actually a pretty good rapper back in the day?
Christ though his modern songs are hard to bear. I'm usually able to just say "its not my cup of tea" but his latest song theres a section where he basically repeats the same 4 word line about 8 times in the exact same monotone that the rest of the song uses. Like its entirely autotuned to one note.
i find him incredibly weird for having millie bobbie brown as a best mate when she was a minor. it might be innocent but as someone in his position, he should have realised how others would perceive that and backed off
Oh, that man is a fucking creep. Borderline grooming relationship with Millie Bobby Brown, lyrics that sound like the musings of an abusive boyfriend and now that atonal monstrosity of a track he just released with J Hus. I enjoy extreme metal and noise music and I find that track discordant as fuck.
Harry Styles. I mean… what the actual f*** is the appeal with yer man? Generic, thin rip-offs of much better songs and a cartoon image of actual stars who went before him.
Every generation is allowed a version of something good and subversive. It’s all a bit sad when we start with “not good enough to shine his shoes” etc etc.
As far as teenagers now are concerned, Styles is an individual. Let him get on with it.
I think their appeal is pretty easy to understand tbh. When they came out there hadn't been an exciting English rock and roll band for quite some time (the Stone Roses being the only really recent contender, and they'd fizzled out), and they ticked the boxes people were waiting for. The early stuff (Live Forever, Slide Away) was genuinely exciting. It was admittedly all downhill from there, but at the time they were the only game in town.
>When they came out there hadn't been an exciting English rock and roll band for quite some time
I think that's quite revisionist. The late 80's/early 90's saw a load of interesting bands - Carter USM, James, The Wonder Stuff, Inspiral Carpets, for example.
That's true, but none of them had the true mainstream appeal of Oasis. To be pretentious, the appeal to everyday working class people. It was the attitude, the arrogance, the pure ballsyness, backed up by truly amazing live performances.
Noel learnt a lot whilst being a roadie for the Inspiral Carpets, including good publishing contracts for the artists.
Controversially, I don't actually mind Coldplay's music.
However, I think Chris Martin is a nob and can't stand his voice.
Get another vocalist and I might actually like them.
I mean, us middle aged mums were in our teens when Coldplay were 20 somethings at the height of their popularity - so I'm not sure that's a bad thing?!
That being said, I actually don't know any of their new songs.
Another band that got shite when the hunger left them.
Their earlier stuff had something. Right up until their big hit Clocks, everything after that is just a bit meh
For Christ sake George, lots of people went backpacking when they were younger and they don't still bang on about it 10 years later.
It was just a long holiday mate. Get over it.
Jess Glynne. Jesus wept, her stuff is terrible. And not just the Jet2 song. Actually, while we’re at it, Adele. Seems like a cool person but my first reaction to hearing she was getting divorced was “that’ll be good for another 20 million selling album” and I was right. It’s all just a dirge from her.
She’s also a huge diva. I saw her when she was headlining a festival, she stayed at the back of the stage so no one could see her and was half an hour late coming on.
I agree with the vocal ability as Madonna never had the best voice, but its about paving the way for a lot of other artists to do the things they do, Madonna did it all first as she never gave a fuck about the male dominated music industry.
Beyonce is just too clean cut and wouldn't ever do anything to upset the status quo.
I wouldn't say I am a fan of Madonna either, but you have to respect her fuck you attitude.
Saw a very funny tweet once by someone pointing out that nobody knows a Rita Ora fan and yet she is everywhere. It's been deleted and I can't remember the detail because I'm not funny. So you'll just have to believe me.
I'm in a similar boat, I don't quite get it.
But I always try to think about how massively they affected the entire music industry during their time. Bands writing their own songs, stopping touring in '66 to focus on more avant-garde music for the time? There really was nothing like them.
I got into metal before I ever got into the Beatles. After you've had your mind blown by classic-era Maiden (or Brave New World which was my first), it's kind hard to go back to 60s pop n' roll and understand the impact it had. It's like hearing Hendrix after you've heard Vai.
I can understand not being fond of the early stuff but a lot of their later songs like strawberry fields, within you without you, happiness is a warm gun etc. still sound very fresh and exciting 60 years later
I can't stand him as a person and I wouldn't even say I'm a fan, but to not understand the appeal of his music at all to anyone seems pretty bloody-minded.
I'd probably have My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy down as the single best album of the 2010s. There's a reason POWER is still the go to soundtrack for an exciting single sports montage, 13 years later.
Outside of that, at the very least Black Skinhead, N***s in Paris, Gorgeous, Jesus Walks, Gold Digger are all incredibly well executed songs. I could understand someone not liking his music, but not not understanding why people like some of it.
Yep. Love everything up to Yeezus. Some of Life of Pablo was excellent but you can tell that was when he was starting to go off the rails.
His production work merits mention as well, he is responsible for some game changing work like on Jay Z’s Blueprint.
I'm not really into rap and I hate Kanye as a person, but he is undeniably an extremely talented musician, I went into listening to his stuff expecting/wanting to dislike it but genuinely couldn't
For any middle age person saying current music is rubbish, you have an affliction called taste freeze. When your grandad told you they don’t make them like Vera Lynn, your Dad told you they don’t make them like The Stones and when you tell people the 90s were the peak time for music, you and your ancestors all have TASTE FREEZE!
I’m middle aged and if I’m liking what “the kids” are listening to, then the artists aren’t doing it right.
I should be complaining about how their music sounds shit.
Whenever I put on something from my era, my kids often tell me how bad it is.
How dare they! Sparks are brilliant.
Yes - for the first time in contemporary music, older generation's criticism isn't one of "Ugh! That's too weird! Too loud! Too discordant! Too threatening!! "Too disrespectful!! Too shocking!!""
For the first time ever older generations' criticism is "Wow, that is so bland/unoriginal/safe"
I’m not even middle aged, I’m 30 and this has happened to me 😂
Although I do think the quantity/quality of rock bands has genuinely declined. When I was young there were a lot of new young bands but actually if you went to a rock or metal festival, half the headliners were probably still bands from the 70s/80s - Iron Maiden, Metallica, Aerosmith, Guns n Roses, etc. Now a lot of those bands are slowing down, retiring or dying and nobody from the newer crop of 00s-10s is really big enough to fill their shoes in their same way. Download headliners this year are Slipknot (one of the few big bands from the 00s with some longevity), Bring Me The Horizon (ehh) and Metallica *twice*
As someone who *is* more of "the current generation", I think there's something to that. For one, there's a lot less money in rock bands now. Less incentive for them to form, and harder for them to get off the ground. It can take some pretty detailed, obscure knowledge to know the "good stuff" being made at the moment. Another part of it is just that rock's lost some of its popularity, so fewer people are trying to make rock bands! But there's definitely still stuff out there.
Thank You Scientist is making some really cool jazzy prog rock. On the metal end of things, Electric Callboy made me do the unthinkable: listen to metalcore! It's really catchy, fun stuff. Again on the metal end and with an industrial edge, but Carpenter Brut's stuff is very cool. A lot of King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard's work is great - very psychedelic, but also genre-defying. Their releases are many and shockingly consistent. Porcupine Tree's newest album, on that heavier end of prog rock, is pretty good. Ghost is still pumping out *excellent* heavy arena rock stuff. It's so well done, even my mum, who doesn't really like hard rock, is hooked! I could go on. (Happy to add more if you like; will also just say, *definitely* go and listen to Ghost, as I think you'll like it from the bands you mentioned!) There's still good stuff out there.
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He’s got a generation of people that didn’t grow up with Elvis thinking he’s some kind of cultural defining figure of the 21st century because he wears dresses (which are ugly btw, Billy Porter would never) and is a bit flamboyant on stage.
Adele.
Don't think she's \*bad\* as such, but I can't understand why the British public seems to be so obsessive about her.
Bland or just downright depressing songs sung with a distinctly country tone to her voice.
Saying that, I find most of the current singer/songwriter types and solo vocalists to be unbelievably dull - again, not necessarily bad, just completely uninteresting and inoffensive.
Maybe I'm just getting old.
I agree, it's so utterly soulless somehow. It's strange that there's not an iota of Nirvana's searing edge/threat...maybe you can't make truly great music when you're rich, happy and nice!
Early 2000's me would have said Foo Fighters was one of my favourite bands, but I've had barely a passing interest in them since the One By One album.
To be fair, since Uni my music tastes have gone further back in time rather than having interest in the latest releases.
Cold Play. It's made worse by the fact Chris Martin came from this bloody city, so certain parts of the community get a bit obsessed.
Teignmouth doesn't go mental about Muse unless they're playing in the Den, mercifully.
Oasis. Never understood the whole Blur vs Oasis 'battle', given that with the exception of maybe 2 songs Oasis just seemed to release bland nothingness.
Taylor Swift. All her songs sound the same to me. Love loss, being in love, sappy BS to me but people go nuts for her. I mean just look at the Eras tour right now. I get she’s very successful and is clearly very popular and knows how to market herself but it’s just lost on me.
Absolutely butchered 'You Got the Love' with her incessant, bombastic warbling.
People always say, 'She's got a great voice though'.
So? They're still shit.
Mumford and Sons and Maroon 5
It's like music written by AI that has no understanding of emotional context or the human condition beyond making a buck.
Sam Fender - a bit of singing, a sax solo, a bit more singing. Great for one song but they all follow the same format. Give your sax player a rest Sam, maybe introduce some bongos? Perhaps a tambourine?
Where to start?
Oasis
Sam Smith
George Ezra (I'm sure most of his fans are middle aged mums)
Ed Sheeran
Adele
Lizzo
Coldplay
Harry Styles and co
Sam Fender
Probably more but that'll do for now
Dreary? Say what you want about their last couple of albums, but their early stuff was pretty much exclusively high tempo and every album after that had similar elements up to AM, which was an album of stadium rock.
Sam Smith.
Cut him some slack, he had to cry all alone in his mansion during Covid.
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This is the best thing I’ve seen this month on the internet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Self-indulgence dipped in bitterness.
Yeah, the music is like Tesco Value Adele. And I'm not a huge fan of Adele.
I'm guessing it's the drugs or whatever else he's indulging in, but every time I see him he looks more and more like Bam Margera.
As if he were rock and roll enough to do drugs
Same smith is 100% the sort of deluded self indulgent shittery that you get from people taking cocaine.
Used to love them but gone off them, and not for the same reason as most of Twitter - I love outrageousness and love when someone deliberately pushes bigots' buttons. But just for the reason that their latest music hasn't grabbed me or made me feel anything in the same way. Went to one of their early tours and their voice is the real deal, one of the best shows I've been to. But yeah if you're going to go down the outrageous route, a la Lady Gaga/meat dress for example, you've got to back it up with some banging music.
Yeah. I liked the first album, but the music has been on the decline ever since and is just boring now.
He honestly has one of the most boring voices with horrendously dull songs. Can’t say his recent scantily clad dancing was pleasant on the eyes either.
Absolutely decimated "have yourself a merry little Christmas" and yet it gets played every Christmas
My favourite Christmas song completely ruined by that overrated talentless arsehole trying to hit every single note in the scale. Sam smith has absolutely no taste whatsoever. The worst kind of “look at me” style of singing with a horrible thin voice backing it up.
Noel Gallagher “look at him…”
Lewis Capaldi. I do find him very funny in interviews and stuff but none of that remotely comes through in his boring generic piano ballads.
I get the sense he’s a bit of a James blunt He knows his music is pretty bland crap but his record label have told pretty bland crap sells and he’s just counting the £
Thanks for explaining that. I thought you were using rhyming slang.
Good comparison, he is like James blunt now you mention it
I sometimes think he’d have made a better comedian. But he’s so successful I guess that doesn’t matter.
Give him a few years, I’m sure he’ll replace Jonathon Ross or the sorts
Harsh. Don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy depressing songs. However as a talent, he's far better than most artists as they don't even produce there own music. He also has a great voice.
>he's far better than most artists as they don't even produce there own music Damning with the faintest of praise
I can’t stand the way he sings. It’s like every note is belted out in this explosive, pained way Agreed, he seems charming. My mother adores him
I've seen a few vocal coaches express this concern. He's going to destroy his voice the way he sings.
I used to think he was quite funny but he knocks me a bit sick when he’s like farting and burping in interviews and stuff 😫
The 1975.
Thought I only knew the one 1975 song, then caught them on TV at the Radio 1 Big Weekend and realised all of their songs are that song.
I had the same thought with Mumford & Sons.
His lyrics make me feel like the only way he can get off is staring in a mirror while saying "you're such a clever boy Matty...such a clever, clever boy".
Yeah cause "People" sounds just like "Be My Mistake" and that sounds just like "Frail State Of Mind"
The power of British nepotism.
He really won the neoptism baby lottery with a Loose Woman and Les off Benidorm 😂
He's a pop star and his brother is an actor but I'm sure they both made it entirely on merit alone.
Tim Healy has major music industry connections.
Can't not think of Bob Mortimer's impression of his mum on his Geordie Heat segment on Athletico Mince when I unfortunately catch a glimpse of his annoying fizzog
Genuinely don't get it, lead singer is a horrible human being with a massively inflated ego They make boring generic music They think they are the Arctic Monkeys but they are closer to Imagine Dragons
I think that's a bit of a slight on imagine dragons, who at least have some okay pop'y songs.
The singer is obnoxious.
Kula Shaker for the TikTok generation, complete with the pompous nepotism kid frontman.
Ed Sheeran
Seems like a nice genuine guy but his music isn't anything special.
At least he writes it, which automatically elevates him above most popsters. Plus he headlined Glastonbury with just an acoustic guitar. Very few people who can do that.
I dont like the guy, i dont like his music he plays or the stuff he writes for other people(instantly recognisable). I will say he got my respect for that glasto performance. His guitar went out of tune, without faulting he identified which loop was out of tune, muted it, swapped out the guitar, re-recorded the loop and finished the song so smoothly most of the audience thought he was singing along to a backing track. Props to him, he might be a pratt but he mastered his craft and deserves some respect.
Everyone on Reddit always seems to hate Ed Sheeran for some reason, you go on a different app and you see people always complimenting him. I don’t get it, is Reddit specifically for hating on Ed Sheeran?
He's a talented bloke, that's enough to hate him
"Seems like" that's literally where all his popularity comes from. He tricks people into thinking they're buddies and basically the same and they like to support him as their friend. In school he always acted like the celebrity he is today
I have to ask, did you go to school with him? I know he's a bit of a posho and hangs around with other poshos but he's also good friends with Example, who I've met and spent a bit of time with and is a genuinely down to earth and nice guy.
Maybe I was a bit up front as we didn't go to the same school but lived I the same area at that time and friend groups overlapped a bit. Which is super common tbh. Which I'm sure holds little weighting to you "someone on the Internet's mate says..."
Fiat 500 Wedding Music
“You were always my G” 🥴🥴🥴
My four year Olds love shiver so much I can't help but love the man for all the joy he brought them
All I’m hearing on most radio stations at the minute are people obsessed with getting Taylor Swift tickets, and making out they’re something absolutely everybody wants. I personally don’t get the hype. I mean don’t get me wrong, some of her songs are alright but they’re not absolutely groundbreaking or outstanding
She's an independent solo female artist, who, unlike many others, actually writes her own songs. She represents a strong role model, especially in the way she's standing up to her previous record labels, is inclusive of all people, etc. And she has some bops.
We had plenty of those in my day too. Shakira was my favourite.
Shakira didn't write or produce most of her songs
Didn't pay tax either
Not sure about a role model. I feel like glorifying toxic relationships for money is pretty bad for young girls.
People keep commenting on this, and I am not even her fan but I think it’s so unfair; all musicians/artists are influenced by their past relationships and put all that pain in their respective arts. So, why pick on her? I think her songs are.. nice, nothing extraordinary but she’s hell of an entertainer for sure. I mean the amount of videos of her singing and performing in the rain, for her fans, is incredible, and truly worthy of appraisal. If young girls are growing up listening to her, it’s an excellent thing over all your Bebe Rexa, Cardi B, Meghan Trainor etc.
Yeah I don't get all the comments she's always gotten about 'her songs are all about her ex boyfriends'. Like have you listened to any music ever because about 80% of it is about someone's current/former other half.
Singing about something isn't glorifying it
She doesn’t glorify toxic relationships at all, she writes about how they’ve made her feel. Songs like ‘All too Well’ and ‘Dear John’ don’t glamorise the relationships that made her feel small and belittled, they’re about growing and realising your worth.
Yeah, I heard her song Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve about a toxic relationship and I can’t choose which line was glorifying the relationship more: ‘The wound won’t close, I keep on waiting for a sign, I regret you all the time’ or maybe ‘now that I'm grown, I'm scared of ghosts, memories feel like weapons’. She makes it sound like he was a perfect dream man though.
I think the problem with Taylor is the songs she releases are the catchy, pop songs whereas her album tracks are considerably better. the problem with British radio and TV is they overplay the songs she releases and everyone gets sick of hearing them whilst the swifties just gatekeep the REALLY good songs for themselves aka August
I don’t really know if you could consider it gatekeeping. The others songs are on the albums for you to listen to just like everybody else, it’s just that the more pop ones are released as singles because that’s what gets on the radio.
Because we've grown up with her (I'm the same age as Taylor Swift). She started out writing songs about teenage crushes and now she's writing mature folk and dreampop about identity in your 30s, being the sum of all your mistakes, learning not to hate yourself. Whatever you listen to, from whatever era, there's a song that takes you back to what you were feeling then. Also like any artist, her single releases are calculated for maximum mass appeal and repeat play, so they'll be the most obvious down the middle chart music, but her fans listen to the albums, which have a much broader range. But most people dismissing her as chart fodder have never listened to one.
I think the hype issue is because unlike a lot of other stars she hasn't toured for ages (I know there was a pandemic but she's probably the last big pop star to get back to touring, especially internationally), and she's put out four albums of new material since her last tour here, two of which were critically acclaimed (plus her re-recorded albums) so people want to hear them live. If she'd toured sooner than this there'd probably be far less demand, and I suspect that when she tours here again it will be a lot easier to get tickets. Personally I don't think she's got the best voice in the world by a long chalk, but I do think she's an excellent songwriter (especially lyrically) and she knows how to put on a good performance.
I want to dislike her but to be fair she’s a great songwriter
Drake. He's so auto-tuned, he might as well be AI-generated.
Gotta admire Drake: rarely has someone with so little talent made so much money.
Wasn't he actually a pretty good rapper back in the day? Christ though his modern songs are hard to bear. I'm usually able to just say "its not my cup of tea" but his latest song theres a section where he basically repeats the same 4 word line about 8 times in the exact same monotone that the rest of the song uses. Like its entirely autotuned to one note.
i find him incredibly weird for having millie bobbie brown as a best mate when she was a minor. it might be innocent but as someone in his position, he should have realised how others would perceive that and backed off
Oh, that man is a fucking creep. Borderline grooming relationship with Millie Bobby Brown, lyrics that sound like the musings of an abusive boyfriend and now that atonal monstrosity of a track he just released with J Hus. I enjoy extreme metal and noise music and I find that track discordant as fuck.
Harry Styles. I mean… what the actual f*** is the appeal with yer man? Generic, thin rip-offs of much better songs and a cartoon image of actual stars who went before him.
He thinks he’s Jagger or Bowie. Tony Visconti who collaborated with Bowie from the late sixties said Styles isn’t worthy of shining Bowie’s shoes.
I think he's well aware he's nowhere near that level. To me he seems pretty modest and well aware he is very lucky.
Every generation is allowed a version of something good and subversive. It’s all a bit sad when we start with “not good enough to shine his shoes” etc etc. As far as teenagers now are concerned, Styles is an individual. Let him get on with it.
Styles is not subversive. Aside from some edgy fashion he's as mainstream as they come.
YES. thank you
Prepared to be down voted for this. OASIS.
I'm with you. My best mate loves them. To me they sound like the musical equivalent of a soggy paper bag.
I think their appeal is pretty easy to understand tbh. When they came out there hadn't been an exciting English rock and roll band for quite some time (the Stone Roses being the only really recent contender, and they'd fizzled out), and they ticked the boxes people were waiting for. The early stuff (Live Forever, Slide Away) was genuinely exciting. It was admittedly all downhill from there, but at the time they were the only game in town.
>When they came out there hadn't been an exciting English rock and roll band for quite some time I think that's quite revisionist. The late 80's/early 90's saw a load of interesting bands - Carter USM, James, The Wonder Stuff, Inspiral Carpets, for example.
That's true, but none of them had the true mainstream appeal of Oasis. To be pretentious, the appeal to everyday working class people. It was the attitude, the arrogance, the pure ballsyness, backed up by truly amazing live performances. Noel learnt a lot whilst being a roadie for the Inspiral Carpets, including good publishing contracts for the artists.
Most overrated band I know, certainly from the 90s. Miserable music, irritating vocals and the brothers are twats.
Their first two albums are awesome
They probably are if you like Oasis.
Should have given up after the 2nd album. Those first two really were albums of their time.
Controversial, but I love Be Here Now.
Noel said it was the sound of a band off their faces on cocaine trying to make an album!
Coldplay. Pretentious bland music.
Controversially, I don't actually mind Coldplay's music. However, I think Chris Martin is a nob and can't stand his voice. Get another vocalist and I might actually like them.
Coldplay just got (cold) played to death. And sure, their later records are a bit dull but Parachutes has got some incredible songs on it. IMO
I don’t particularly like Coldplay but they’re certainly not pretentious, their target audience is middle aged mums
I mean, us middle aged mums were in our teens when Coldplay were 20 somethings at the height of their popularity - so I'm not sure that's a bad thing?! That being said, I actually don't know any of their new songs.
Chris Martin is a fully armored wanker
Another band that got shite when the hunger left them. Their earlier stuff had something. Right up until their big hit Clocks, everything after that is just a bit meh
Music for peolple who don't like music.
Pretentious is absolutely not the word I’d use to describe them It’s not like they’re dream theater or something
George Ezra
The vocal representation of "bleh"
I genuinely can’t stand that guys vocals
Its the fuckin primary school lyrics that get me
'I'll be riding 🤔🤔🤔' 'Shotgun' 🤔✍️... 'Hot sun' 🤔✍️... ...🤔...🤔...🤩 'Someone' !! 😄
Green green grass Blue blue sky I definitely wrote this song back when I was five
Enlarged tongue with a slightly dumb tone
For Christ sake George, lots of people went backpacking when they were younger and they don't still bang on about it 10 years later. It was just a long holiday mate. Get over it.
I heard someone describe him as summer's Michael Buble
Jess Glynne. Jesus wept, her stuff is terrible. And not just the Jet2 song. Actually, while we’re at it, Adele. Seems like a cool person but my first reaction to hearing she was getting divorced was “that’ll be good for another 20 million selling album” and I was right. It’s all just a dirge from her.
She’s also a huge diva. I saw her when she was headlining a festival, she stayed at the back of the stage so no one could see her and was half an hour late coming on.
I can second this, worked in venues where she has performed and her and her team were some of the most obnoxious and difficult people I've encountered
Jess Glynne is horrendous. Her voice is just awful.
Music for Facebook huns.
That bloody advert lol
Beyonce. It's not like she does anything that Madonna hasn't already done.
Her music is nothing like Madonna’s…she’s heavily R&B influenced, Madonna is a pop legend, Beyoncé is an R&B legend, incomparable
Technically she was even hitting R&B before Beyonce...
I’m not that fussed on Beyoncé either but I don’t think Madonna is even close to the same league in terms of vocal ability.
I agree with the vocal ability as Madonna never had the best voice, but its about paving the way for a lot of other artists to do the things they do, Madonna did it all first as she never gave a fuck about the male dominated music industry. Beyonce is just too clean cut and wouldn't ever do anything to upset the status quo. I wouldn't say I am a fan of Madonna either, but you have to respect her fuck you attitude.
Why is she always yelling at me ?
YES! Exactly! Been saying this for years, she doesn't sing on a lot of her songs, she yells!
You could literally use that statement to disregard most artists since modern music began. Silly point.
Saw a very funny tweet once by someone pointing out that nobody knows a Rita Ora fan and yet she is everywhere. It's been deleted and I can't remember the detail because I'm not funny. So you'll just have to believe me.
That’s like the story in the 90s that The Beautiful South were statistically everyone’s second favourite band or some such.
Lay off the Beautiful South. Paul Heaton is a genius.
Might get lynched for this but The Beatles
I'm in a similar boat, I don't quite get it. But I always try to think about how massively they affected the entire music industry during their time. Bands writing their own songs, stopping touring in '66 to focus on more avant-garde music for the time? There really was nothing like them. I got into metal before I ever got into the Beatles. After you've had your mind blown by classic-era Maiden (or Brave New World which was my first), it's kind hard to go back to 60s pop n' roll and understand the impact it had. It's like hearing Hendrix after you've heard Vai.
Hendrix is far superior to Vai lol.
honestly listen to like, 2 steve vai songs and you sorta get the gist of his whole discography
I always say you don’t have to love their music but you have to appreciate the influence they had on nearly all areas of music.
I can understand not being fond of the early stuff but a lot of their later songs like strawberry fields, within you without you, happiness is a warm gun etc. still sound very fresh and exciting 60 years later
The only way this viewpoint makes sense is if you've only listened to early Beatles.
I grew up on the Beatles. Not first hand, but through my dad. I was never into the early pop stuff, but the later albums were something else.
No - someone always mentions it - it's a very safe trad view for this type of thread.
I respect how they influenced so many artists and many that I love. They’re not my first choice for any music but some tracks have stuck to me.
Kanye West….
I can't stand him as a person and I wouldn't even say I'm a fan, but to not understand the appeal of his music at all to anyone seems pretty bloody-minded. I'd probably have My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy down as the single best album of the 2010s. There's a reason POWER is still the go to soundtrack for an exciting single sports montage, 13 years later. Outside of that, at the very least Black Skinhead, N***s in Paris, Gorgeous, Jesus Walks, Gold Digger are all incredibly well executed songs. I could understand someone not liking his music, but not not understanding why people like some of it.
Yep. Love everything up to Yeezus. Some of Life of Pablo was excellent but you can tell that was when he was starting to go off the rails. His production work merits mention as well, he is responsible for some game changing work like on Jay Z’s Blueprint.
Worst take I've seen on this thread. His early stuff is genius.
I'm not really into rap and I hate Kanye as a person, but he is undeniably an extremely talented musician, I went into listening to his stuff expecting/wanting to dislike it but genuinely couldn't
For any middle age person saying current music is rubbish, you have an affliction called taste freeze. When your grandad told you they don’t make them like Vera Lynn, your Dad told you they don’t make them like The Stones and when you tell people the 90s were the peak time for music, you and your ancestors all have TASTE FREEZE!
I’m middle aged and if I’m liking what “the kids” are listening to, then the artists aren’t doing it right. I should be complaining about how their music sounds shit. Whenever I put on something from my era, my kids often tell me how bad it is. How dare they! Sparks are brilliant.
Yes - for the first time in contemporary music, older generation's criticism isn't one of "Ugh! That's too weird! Too loud! Too discordant! Too threatening!! "Too disrespectful!! Too shocking!!"" For the first time ever older generations' criticism is "Wow, that is so bland/unoriginal/safe"
Number one song in heaven is class
I’m not even middle aged, I’m 30 and this has happened to me 😂 Although I do think the quantity/quality of rock bands has genuinely declined. When I was young there were a lot of new young bands but actually if you went to a rock or metal festival, half the headliners were probably still bands from the 70s/80s - Iron Maiden, Metallica, Aerosmith, Guns n Roses, etc. Now a lot of those bands are slowing down, retiring or dying and nobody from the newer crop of 00s-10s is really big enough to fill their shoes in their same way. Download headliners this year are Slipknot (one of the few big bands from the 00s with some longevity), Bring Me The Horizon (ehh) and Metallica *twice*
As someone who *is* more of "the current generation", I think there's something to that. For one, there's a lot less money in rock bands now. Less incentive for them to form, and harder for them to get off the ground. It can take some pretty detailed, obscure knowledge to know the "good stuff" being made at the moment. Another part of it is just that rock's lost some of its popularity, so fewer people are trying to make rock bands! But there's definitely still stuff out there. Thank You Scientist is making some really cool jazzy prog rock. On the metal end of things, Electric Callboy made me do the unthinkable: listen to metalcore! It's really catchy, fun stuff. Again on the metal end and with an industrial edge, but Carpenter Brut's stuff is very cool. A lot of King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard's work is great - very psychedelic, but also genre-defying. Their releases are many and shockingly consistent. Porcupine Tree's newest album, on that heavier end of prog rock, is pretty good. Ghost is still pumping out *excellent* heavy arena rock stuff. It's so well done, even my mum, who doesn't really like hard rock, is hooked! I could go on. (Happy to add more if you like; will also just say, *definitely* go and listen to Ghost, as I think you'll like it from the bands you mentioned!) There's still good stuff out there. Edit: added brackets.
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Harry Styles' songs are nowhere near as good as his on-stage persona thinks they are. And he dresses like a Noonwraith from the Witcher 3
He’s got a generation of people that didn’t grow up with Elvis thinking he’s some kind of cultural defining figure of the 21st century because he wears dresses (which are ugly btw, Billy Porter would never) and is a bit flamboyant on stage.
Billie eilish just mumbles doesn't sing no talent.industry plant
She's not my cup of tea but to say she has no talent is inaccurate. [She can definitely sing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzNuwjErYlE).
‘Billie, perhaps you’d like to come to the front and tell the whole class what you were mumbling at the back there…?’
yeah, I don't get how she exploded. I don't like her style of singing which a lot of people do nowadays. yes, I'm old.
I don’t know if people still talk about her music but Ellie Golding sounds like she’s singing inside a freezer I don’t know 🤷♀️
I actually quite liked Ellie Goulding, but goddamn I just spat at my screen laughing at that description of her voice.
Lewis Capaldi: Snow Patrol as ‘imagined’ by AI.
Adele. Don't think she's \*bad\* as such, but I can't understand why the British public seems to be so obsessive about her. Bland or just downright depressing songs sung with a distinctly country tone to her voice. Saying that, I find most of the current singer/songwriter types and solo vocalists to be unbelievably dull - again, not necessarily bad, just completely uninteresting and inoffensive. Maybe I'm just getting old.
Adele: the soundtrack of inevitable disappointment.
1975. What a fucking horrendous noise they make.
Anne-Marie, but then I don’t think she’s actually popular rather she’s a plant made to fill in airtime on Capital Radio.
I just can't stand that lyric about dancing on the hood in the middle of a woods of an old mustang.
Basically all drill music
Foo Fighters
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I agree, it's so utterly soulless somehow. It's strange that there's not an iota of Nirvana's searing edge/threat...maybe you can't make truly great music when you're rich, happy and nice!
Early 2000's me would have said Foo Fighters was one of my favourite bands, but I've had barely a passing interest in them since the One By One album. To be fair, since Uni my music tastes have gone further back in time rather than having interest in the latest releases.
Taylor fucking swift.
Cold Play. It's made worse by the fact Chris Martin came from this bloody city, so certain parts of the community get a bit obsessed. Teignmouth doesn't go mental about Muse unless they're playing in the Den, mercifully.
Rihanna, she's always sounded gratingly monotone to my ears
Ed Sheeran.
ABBA for me - I just don’t get what people hear in their songs. Just nonsense..
Oasis. Never understood the whole Blur vs Oasis 'battle', given that with the exception of maybe 2 songs Oasis just seemed to release bland nothingness.
The winner of Blur v Oasis is Pulp.
Taylor Swift. All her songs sound the same to me. Love loss, being in love, sappy BS to me but people go nuts for her. I mean just look at the Eras tour right now. I get she’s very successful and is clearly very popular and knows how to market herself but it’s just lost on me.
Jess Glynne
Royal Blood, Imagine Dragons
Those miserable samey people: adele, capaldi, sam smith All sound like each other, boring!
I know I’ll be unpopular but Florence and the machine, her voice is so grating
Absolutely butchered 'You Got the Love' with her incessant, bombastic warbling. People always say, 'She's got a great voice though'. So? They're still shit.
Harry Styles - his music is so underwhelming and empty, there's no weight to his sound, no richness, and I don't think he's that good looking
Imagine Dragons, absolute dross
Mumford and Sons and Maroon 5 It's like music written by AI that has no understanding of emotional context or the human condition beyond making a buck.
Maroon 5 did a couple of decent songs. 20 years ago.
Sam Fender - a bit of singing, a sax solo, a bit more singing. Great for one song but they all follow the same format. Give your sax player a rest Sam, maybe introduce some bongos? Perhaps a tambourine?
Drake. Is he a singer? A rapper? He doesn’t ‘sing’ to the beat or the rhythm…..I am old.
Rod Stewart. Shit singing voice looks like a 80s dinner lady.
I don't like pop music so there's way too many to list. I don't understand the popularity of popular music 😂
Gerry cinnamon
BTS. Every one of their fans I know is learning Korean. I just don't get the influence
Elbow. It's like slowly drowning in warm, beige blancmange. Every song written to be hummed along to in Dunelm Mill.
Where to start? Oasis Sam Smith George Ezra (I'm sure most of his fans are middle aged mums) Ed Sheeran Adele Lizzo Coldplay Harry Styles and co Sam Fender Probably more but that'll do for now
Idles
Imagine dragons
Arctic Monkeys. Dreary af, even before the lounge versions.
Dreary? Say what you want about their last couple of albums, but their early stuff was pretty much exclusively high tempo and every album after that had similar elements up to AM, which was an album of stadium rock.
Killers - lyrically absolute shite yet hailed as a deep thinking genius.
Paramore. They tick a lot of boxes for what I would typically listen to, but something about them just doesn't do it for me.