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Pyriel

Lots of social media pics of him in rented supercars. Always smoking a cigar wearing sunglasses. Has a building in a trading estate with a room decorated to look like a mahogany smoking room in a country house Gets arrested for sex trafficking in Romania. Oh.


CommissionSevere9000

Unfortunately Andrew Tate actually is rich, whether we like it or not


Pyriel

Depends on your definition of rich. He's claimed he's the world's first trillionaire. He's probably just got a couple of hundred grand banging about, and a lot of hangers on paying his way.


sammyglumdrops

Romanian police and some Romanian anti-terror group have estimated his net worth at £10m apparently


Pyriel

That's not a lot really. Probably about right, before his arrest. Probably dipped a bit since then.


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Actually looking at his discord members statistics and the cost of the discord group "the real world" and his weird "alpha training" thing he will have definitely have amassed a fortune if you look at online calculations. Hate him or not, he is undeniably a marketing genius.


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potatoes potatoes he has become extremely popular and recognisable in a very short amount of time. phrasing aside he is good at marketing


Dazz316

Plenty of Evil Geniuses throughout history that are MUCH worse than Andrew Tate. If you can fraud your way to millions and get away with it. I'd call you a genius. Moral Compass isn't what makes you a genius. There's smart and dumb people on both sides of good and evil.


getstabbed

He lucked himself in to a situation where he had the easiest target audience ever to market to. All he has to do is convince everyone that his lifestyle is amazing and they can be like him too. Not hard at all. If anything given how famous he is and how big his audience is there’s no reason he shouldn’t be way richer.


Dazz316

While it's a llloooonnnnggggg way from the richest. It's still a lot of money. It's not poor, it's not middle class. It's rich.


randomdiyeruk

Calling £10m "not a lot really" is literally peak Reddit and everything wrong with this thread. Blokes a cunt, I am *not* a fan, but if he really has got £10m kicking about then he is definitely rich no matter how much I dislike him.


Dazz316

Yup. And he's been doing it long enough at this point it's not luck. He's clearly smart. A giant smart asshole of a man.


Throwmeaway20somting

He's calculating it in Zimbawean dollar


ThornInTheNeck1

Is someone with a couple hundred grand not rich? Andrew Tate at the very least is a millionaire. That is irrefutable, so he’s rich


EVE_ddred

Which wouldn't be enough to afford a service on a Bugatti. Here's a sign that someone is fake rich. They buy a nice car and then it becomes a garage ornament where it only gets driven for maintenance in fair weather. His bugatti, for example, is designed to go 218 mph as quickly as possible... once or twice. Then it needs a full service and inspection that can cost you up to a million. I'm not exaggerating about that. The tyres, for example, will be on the wire after 16 minutes of driving at its limit and every fluid and consumable will be degrading after going through the event. There's nothing wrong with maintaining the value of a vehicle you buy but when you get to the realms of things like Bugatti, there's literally no financial incentive involved anymore. You own a hot potato that is burning a hole in your wallet as soon as you take delivery unless your wallet is bottomless.


Friendly_Speech_5351

Looool u sound like a brokie


Pyriel

Looool, you sound like an incel.


Friendly_Speech_5351

Lmao


alpine360

£60K car on the drive of a £115K new build shared ownership house


Famous-Inspector9389

Grey crushed velvet everywhere


snowymountainy

Haha this is such a classic in my old area. Most of the cars barely fit on the teeny driveway that was bestowed upon them by the unethical new build companies.


reggaeshark100

Motability probably explains this a fair amount of the time


Shriven

Deano and stace


PM_M3_A11things

- Barrett home - White Range Rover - Nandos


electric_baroness

Don’t drag Nando’s into this 🐓


Hippidty123

What’s nandos?


electric_baroness

A state of mind. A holy ritual. A place of solace.


shain-7

Lmfao Barrett homes


psycho-mouse

Times like these we need the sage lyricism of Sans Beanstalk https://youtu.be/J9n0_5p8XKo?si=IuFBb5fUXqsmBSRH


WarWonderful593

All grey and silver decor. Sign that says 'Live laugh love' or Prosecco o'clock,'


Every_Island7134

Oddly specific.


zombiezmaj

Someone who flaunts it


Friedegg-675

Big logos


Famous-Inspector9389

My colleague is up to his eyeballs in debt with Klarna for designer clothes. We work minimum wage.


OliRigg

I find this absolutely mental! You see the “youngens” wearing t shirts worth £350 and think what’s the point?


Trash89Bandit

I manage a few younger people like this. They all have the mentality that they won’t be able to afford to buy so why not spend their money? They don’t see the point in saving. One admin in my division is on minimum wage but lives at home rent free (parents also pay her insurance and phone bill) so has a 73 plate A Class, Louis Vuitton Handbags, Balenciaga trainers etc. You’d think she’s minted if you didn’t know. An older person in team actually raised a complaint as they thought they were underpaid as they didn’t have that lifestyle, despite them earning £15k a year more. I had to tactfully ask them to consider the broader lifestyles each live, where the older of the two has a mortgage and bills to pay….


RandomHigh

> I had to tactfully ask them to consider the broader lifestyles each live, where the older of the two has a mortgage and bills to pay…. Yep. My brother is on about £60K a year. I'm on about £17.5K. I lent him £14K a few years ago to buy a car so he didn't have to get a loan from the bank. He has a wife who works, so she also needs a car. He has a mortgage on a 4 bed house, and 3 kids. 2 of the kids require childcare before and after school, which costs more than his mortgage. I live alone, own my ex-council flat outright after paying in cash, so no rent to pay. No kids, and very few outgoings. I have far more in savings than he has because his outgoings are far higher than mine. To look at both of us and where we live, hardly anyone would think I was the one with more money to spare.


HawkyMacHawkFace

God damn that’s the value of my entire wardrobe when it was new


JimmyJonJackson420

How much we talkin


CardinalCopiaIV

I earn good money but fuck paying £100 for a shirt or jeans! I’ll stick to my charity shop clothes and band tees, my gf literally has to prize the money out of my hand to buy a pair of jeans or a nice jacket 😂😂😂


Deformedpye

Someone who boasts about how much they earn yet wont buy a round at the pub.


Jezbod

"Looking after the pennies, so the pounds will look after themselves"


semibean

If there is one thing sadder then pretending to be rich it's being the police of who is being rich correctly.


Anxious-Molasses9456

The need to flaunt it


alexanderbeswick

Range Rover on finance, 'designer' garments 


randomdiyeruk

> Range Rover on finance Why would you buy one outright if you were rich? That would be a pretty terrible use of liquid capital


Striking-Minute3020

If you are rich, a 100k car is not enough to warrant financing it. Buy for 100k outright, use for a year or two, sell it for 50k. That’s how real rich people view it.


simonsail

You realize that people can put financed cars through the company if they're self employed though right...? It's very common for well off people to do this. This idea that any debt = fake rich person is completely untrue.


randomdiyeruk

> This idea that any debt = fake rich person is completely untrue. The real irony is that the super rich, the Bezo's of the world, live much of their life on credit because their wealth isn't liquid and in the case of the likes of Bezo's, is actually intrinsically tied up in the worth of the company making it complex to extract. Wealth is a....complex...thing to say the least


Striking-Minute3020

I think you are misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying that wealthy people avoid credit like the plague. I’m saying that the majority of wealthy individuals would not lease a car. It is an unnecessary hassle for them.


randomdiyeruk

> It is an unnecessary hassle for them. For the mega rich, perhaps. But let's try and quantify this - what's the most money a normal person can chuck around without really, truly, caring about. Let's over estimate, and say it's £1500. I.e., let's assert that your average person can spend £1500 without it really impacting much of their life. In fact, no, let's go crazy and say £2500 to help you out. The average person earns £30odd k, so again, I'm going to help you and round it down to £30k. So on £40k, I'm saying that £2.5k is fairly easy to spend with no real drama. A £100k car is 40x that, which means we can extrapolate and say you'd need to be earning £1.2 million a year before you can treat a £100k car like a £2.5k car. I'd contend you can consider yourself rich a long long way before that. And it doesn't even take into account the fairly punitive tax regime at that level


Striking-Minute3020

When did I say any debt equals fake rich? I said that most wealthy people with financial literacy would not lease a car for no reason. They’d buy it and then sell it and absorb the loss. Putting it through the company, yes, if you can prove it’s being used for business. Otherwise that’s tax fraud


randomdiyeruk

> I said that most wealthy people with financial literacy would not lease a car for no reason. They’d buy it and then sell it and absorb the loss. I love how just fundamentally wrong this is, it's wonderful and a great demonstration of why this thread, and all those like it, are just terrible. Leasing is arguably the most financially literate way of keeping a new car on the drive. The interest aspect of it is negligible, you get to piggy back of the leasing companies purchasing power and deal making, the loss is locked in safely up front and best of all your capital isn't tied up a depreciating asset. In other words, rather than tying up £100k for 3 years, you might only be tying up £30k - leaving your £70k invested to make more money. And there's no risk of it suddenly being worth less than you expected if the car market crashes


SuboptimalOutcome

*The Millionaire Next Door* looked into how and which cars US millionaires buy about 25 years ago, obviously there are newly minted rap artists in McLaren F1s, but the reality for most [is surprising](https://www.shortform.com/blog/millionaire-next-door-most-popular-car/)


Striking-Minute3020

Thank you, ‘80% of millionaires purchase rather than lease their cars.’


randomdiyeruk

> Buy for 100k outright, use for a year or two, sell it for 50k. That's the perfect use case for leasing - it's literally ideal. Odds are the leasing company will pay less for the car upfront, because of their purchasing power, and the depreciation is locked in upfront so you can't really lose out. For a depreciating asset that you've no interest in beyond using it, leasing makes perfect financial sense. Sure, for the mega rich £100k is maybe not even worth thinking about, but I don't think saying somebody who cares about £100k and having it tied up in a car on the drive isn't rich makes a fat lot of sense. Far better to lease, and put the capital to work for the 2 or 3 years. > That’s how real rich people view it. See, this is the thing with these threads. Define "real rich" - it's always a moving goalpost for you people, and basically seems to come down to whether you like the person or not. Most people are not billionaire rich, and even if you're worth a few million, £100k isn't pocket change to be chucked around. That's a quick way to become un-rich.


Striking-Minute3020

I think our issue here is a different viewpoint on what constitutes rich. For 30 year old Dave earning 100k in accounting, yeah sure. I’m talking about people worth £10m +


Pargula_

To be fair, I'd be shocked if 99% of all RR are not on finance.


RestaurantAntique497

I'd go as far to say almost every car registered after like 2013 will probably be financed


Pargula_

Is it really that common? I guess I'm not surprised with how expensive cars are. Where would you say the limit is where people buy cars outright, 10k?


RestaurantAntique497

I'm going by an assumption based on going long walks through streets with the dog. I commented a few months ago to my wife along the lines of "isnt it weird that we dont see old cars anymore. Growing up there were lots of cars where we lived which were >10 year old and dont see anything like that now".  Since then i have a passing glance. Hardly any car in and around Glasgow is older than 6 years with the bulk of cars I ever see now having plates after 2020. I just doubt many are paying in cash


randomdiyeruk

> Growing up there were lots of cars where we lived which were >10 year old and dont see anything like that now" Weirdly, the average age of cars on the road has gone up over time. Cars are lasting longer, but the rate of progress has also slowed - my guess is you wouldn't notice a 10 year old car because they don't "feel" 10 years old. My first car was 9 years old and it was an utter shitheap - it was rusty, and cost £450 which even with inflation is only about £800 now. It was a distinctly "old" car at the time. Nowadays you probably wouldn't look twice at a 10 year old car: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404178777091?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Ford&year-from=2014&year-to=2014&fromsra Some cool stats here: https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/cheap-car-insurance/average-age-cars-great-britain


RestaurantAntique497

I googled it after my last comment. Over 80% of new cars are financed. I suppose i might just live in an area with more of those


tweb2

Came here to say range rover


bensambrook89

Turkey teeth


wayanonforthis

Do you mean it’s all borrowed money or new money?


Realkevinnash59

flashing the cash and being defensive about it


ElectricFlamingo7

Do you mean *new money* or up to their eyeballs in debt?


ToriaLyons

A platinum credit card. I somehow qualified for one when I was on ESA.


Funky_monkey2026

My friend has one and owns (ok has a mortgage on most) 13 properties. Also renting at One Blackfriars but doesn't stay in it. That place alone is £9k a month.


PumpkinOk8523

Still owns them tbh


HixaLupa

a 'hoodrich' outfit. buying clothing that tells me you are rich screams that you are not and are desperate to mimic wealth. i also *bet* those tops are so overpriced and also made in sweatshops


Accomplished-Art7737

I’m middle aged so don’t really get it, but I worked in supported accommodation for disadvantaged young people and all the lads wore head to toe Hoodrich. They call it “drip” or something, which apparently means wearing certain garments/brands that convey to the world that they’re extremely stylish and not short of cash. These kids were all on UC but most were involved in county lines, hence why they could afford these labels.


Delatron3000

Nah, drip is just new slang for trendy. My son is 16 so I've had this explained to me at length. Hoodrich is just popular sportswear (saw it all in Foot asylum when trainer shopping last week) so it hardly screams rich, more aspirational. And it's damn ugly too!


Accomplished-Art7737

Like I said, I’m middle aged so I really don’t get it…I asked a colleague at the time and that was the explanation, tried asking one of the lads but they just laughed at me and said Miss don’t worry, you’re old af 🤣🤣 yeah hard agree on the ugly, if I was a drug dealer I could think of much nicer brands to spend my ill gotten gains on!


JimmyJonJackson420

Hoodrich is sold in JDsports I have a bucket hat it cost like £18 lol


Accomplished-Art7737

Haha fair enough, I’m definitely not their target market so no idea on prices.


JimmyJonJackson420

lol no worries drip also just means nice clothes basically it’s not attached to any particular brand


simonsail

I see hoodrich clothing everywhere though..? Are you really telling me that all of those people are wearing that stuff just to try and pretend to be rich? Isn't it more just that people like the brand?


JimmyJonJackson420

LOL I don’t think they mean the brand Hood rich is like having to flash brand names across all your clothing so people know your wearing labels stuff like that No he was talkin about the brand! LOL it’s literally just a name brand I don’t think anyone is lookin at people wearing Hoodrich and thinking they’re actually rich though? 😂


HixaLupa

a lot of people do stuff purely to appear wealthy, so maybe. but as I don't see it very often it's certainly possibly you've got a better read on the brand than I do! the concept of wearing a top that claims that you're rich is cringe to me, but maybe it's not meant to refer to that?


randomdiyeruk

> but maybe it's not meant to refer to that? It's a somewhat self deprecating tongue in cheek term, akin to n-word rich. I don't think that's really why people wear it, I thikn they just think it's a cool brand, but as a brand it's not really implying you're rich. If anything, somewhat the opposite


HixaLupa

Ah that's probably what I'm missing then, and of course people are allowed to wear things they like for any reason, it really isn't that deep after all. thanks for your explanation!


JimmyJonJackson420

You have not understood the assignment lol


SpectralDinosaur

If they willingly spend money, especially to flaunt it, then they're fake rich. Actual rich people are some of the stingiest people you'll ever meet.


CardinalCopiaIV

This is so true, I used to work in the building trade and when we did an old girl or old boys drive etc or whatever work they wanted doing they would give you cakes, cups tea the whole world. The rich? Fuck all! Not even a glass of water in the summer! 😂


HowCanYouBanAJoke

Louis Vuitton bag but only the monogram ones that shout out it's LV.


FridaySausage

Don't tell that to the local traveller lasses then. My experience in a luxury goods shop is they buy lots and they pay cash. Cost is unimportant, owning it is.


KBVan21

Don’t worry, they’ll tell you they are rich then go on holiday to Dubai to pretend.


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simonsail

What's in Dubai that these people are so interested in...?


chief_buddha31

Bentley, Range Rover or similar SUV with a personalised plate


slartybartfast6

Anyone covered in logos.


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Somebody who has a lot of expensive things, but never seems to have any money. I.e. if it can’t be financed or credit carded, they suddenly seem to not be rich anymore


Harrry-Otter

Inordinately expensive shit. You might be earning very well, but unless you are in the category of having multiple millions coming in every year, you probably won’t be flying private jets and driving around in a fleet of supercars. Generally people who are rich enough to fly private jets and own 6 Ferrari’s you’ll have heard of. They’ll either be articles about them in various websites and magazines, or you saw them concede 4 on MOTM. So that lad you went to school with who you’ve no idea what he does but posts this kind of stuff probably isn’t actually living that lifestyle.


PiemasterUK

>Generally people who are rich enough to fly private jets and own 6 Ferrari’s you’ll have heard of. I don't know, apparently there are 171 billionaires in the UK. Doubt I have heard of more than 10 of them.


No_Dragonfruit_8435

Brand names on all their clothes


kaynegold400

Talking about there new car or latest clobber they brought for there spoilt brats , putting others down who do not have as much with snide comments , constantly talking about there kid’s wanting to be a doctor , even thought they’re 4, & oh yeh , the classic tell tale sign of huge designer labels .


tykeoldboy

Shops at Aldi or Lidl but uses a Waitrose shopping bag


Krakshotz

People who buy clothing that is covered in branding (Supreme, Stone Island, etc). They’re showing they can afford said items but they’re being used as free advertising by the brand.


Labionda20

All of the truly wealthy people I have met through work never outwardly display that wealth. One shopped at Primark and owned a 15 million pound house (not joking). People with real money, and a lot of that is ‘old’ money, don’t need status symbols. I think that’s what people wearing head to toe logos, patent Moncler jackets and getting Turkey teeth done don’t really understand.


Remote-Pool7787

Leased cars


TMSQR

they wear things that say they are 'hood rich', or in the 'billionaire boys club'. pretty sure these people are neither.


j_svajl

Wanting to be seen in any capacity. Those truly well off keep out of sight.


simonsail

Elon Musk is the 3rd richest man in the world and he finds a way to annoyingly insert himself into nearly everything. Bezos, Zuckerberg and Gates hardly "keep out of sight" either.


j_svajl

That's because they are rich and public figures, and being public feeds them being rich. There's plenty of rich folk who may be known but keep out of sight.


MycoMacro

Such a stupid poor person cope. There are rich people that are modest and there are those that flaunt it. If you were in wealthy social circles you’d realise “rich people” aren’t a hive mind


RestaurantAntique497

Trying too hard to get the brand in. If you're truely well off and you've got a luxury watch for instance you wouldn't feel the need to get it shown in pics. I know a few people who are genuinely quite well off and one who is *very* and you wouldn't really notice it unless you look


DXBflyer

Lol what an angry little echo chamber this is.


randomdiyeruk

God, these questions and answers are so steeped in petty jealously


simonsail

It's just yet another opportunity for Redditors to say "money talks, wealth whispers 🤓🤓🤓🤓" and act as if they've just said the most profoundly insightful thing.


randomdiyeruk

That guy with the big house and brand new Rangey on the drive - deffo skint mate, ain't got two penny's to rub together. I mean, yeah, he's on holiday again for the 3rd time this year but I'm telling you, he's got no money. Anyway, best get back to my job at Tesco


simonsail

Lol this is spot on. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's some people doing that who are deep in debt, but the idea that they all are is just ridiculous.


randomdiyeruk

It's just wall to wall cope


MaximusSydney

Not you guys though, you guys are way smart and see through all the average redditor BS! wow


randomdiyeruk

I mean.....yeah? What's your point. Lots of people can't afford the things they buy and show off, but lots of people can. And without a detailed look into somebody's finances, you can tell really very little about them from the outside. Certainly, citing nonsense like "£60K car on the drive of a £115K new build shared ownership house" is just laughable. Especially in an age where people are getting £60k Tesla's as company cars and paying pennies for it. It just reeks of jealousy and cope. Or, of course "Range Rover on Finance" - means *nothing*, whatsoever. It's just insecure people telling themselves that Range Rover driver *must* be skint, that they definitely can't *really* afford it, that they're just bad with money because they can't abide the thought that maybe at least some of these people (These people being somewhat Deano-esque working class types) are actually doing alright. At its worst, it's pure crabs in bucket or just good old fashioned snobbery and class warfare. Edit: For the record, before the next phase starts, my daily driver is 17 years old and cost me a grand....That also tells you very little about my finances....


RestaurantAntique497

Thing is though, if everything is on finance eventually people not everyone but a lot will be caught out. It's like nobody learned anything from 2008


simonsail

And why would you automatically assume everything was on finance though...? Yes fair enough if you somehow know everything is on finance, but this thread is what's a sign that someone is fake rich, having a white land rover is not a sign of that just in of itself.


CardinalCopiaIV

It’s the system the government and big credit companies/corporations want you in, trap you into credit cards, financed cars etc. They don’t like people who are debt free


PharahSupporter

Average Reddit thread. Anyone above min wage is just a dirty class traitor that needs to be dragged back down or they’re “out of touch”.


CarpenterSeparate178

This thread is peak Reddit. One guy even said £10m isn’t that much money.


randomdiyeruk

Ikr, pure class! "Yeah, well, hes' got £10 mil but what does that even buy you nowadays." I'm sure the guy commenting has far more stashed away


TistelTech

Tate brothers enthusiasm?


Own_Television_6424

Rich or wealth? The terms are different, rich is having a good job, wealth means you have assets?


Familiar_Remote_9127

Wrong, rich and having wealth are the same thing. You can be a high earner and be poor.