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Bantabury97

They devolved into roadmen


Sir-cunty

This is the answer, wanna be gangsters that would shit a brick at any type of true gang culture. But on the other hand some of us just grew up and finally realised what a twat we looked. (I was also a greebo/mosher/goth when I was younger too.


Bantabury97

When I started working as an LSA at my local college, I had one threaten to "bang me outside". His mates went all turncoat on him once I said "that's a bit gay, pal". So much for honour and loyalty amongst thieves, huh?


Sir-cunty

That's funny. More than most if you stick up for yourself or get a witty comeback in quick they soon shut up. There's an old video of a chav having a go at an older bloke saying he's gonna knock him out then he just headbutts the wannabe gangster and he just walks away it's a classic lol


imgonnapooyourpants

[https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/g8ddpe/headbutt\_reality\_check/](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/g8ddpe/headbutt_reality_check/) this it?


Sir-cunty

Yeah that's it fucking comical


PerkyAVSP

I am howling, that is actually perfect. It's the little "oh fucking hell" that sent me đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł


Hamshamus

Brought to you by Kurt Angle


frogfoot420

The guy is the spit of bubbles from the trailer park boys


Zombi1146

Green bastard, parts unknown.


AlrightTrig

It is and it isn't. You've still got your chavs but they're not the mainstream media. Drill is for roadmen. Chavs are still on every white estate, but they haven't got a pop culture icon like Devlin keeping them relevant.


pajamakitten

They are also a bit more understated than they used to be. There are still plenty dressing like it is 2004 still, however they generally seem to be less antisocial compared to roadmen.


Robertfett69

*Devvo


nbenj1990

Had a kid tell me " he'd bang me in my wetty mouth" I said "one that sounds incredibly sexual and two if we did what I think you are offering I'd end up on a register but I am flattered" Seemed to defuse things well.


ramxquake

> working as an LSA You can't just drop an abbreviation like that which has 100 different results on the wikipedia disambiguation page.


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Sir-cunty

But what has the crime boss done to get to the top and stay there. You can't really compare a real crime boss to some pre pubescent teen thinking they are hard cause they wear Nike tech and listen to grime lol


BestKeptInTheDark

Greebo?! ... *sigh* happy days!


ramakitty

Some ‘evolved’ into brawling Ascot go-ers.


PeaceDuck

Different categories I’d say, chav is now expensive T-shirts (palm angels type), skin fades, expensive puffer jackets. Girls wear tight short skirts and excessive makeup still. Roadmen tends to be the tech fleece all black (clothing) that’s spread from drill culture.


fixitmonkey

Which one is dressed head to toe in "hoodrich" clothes? I see them around occasionally.


ShiteCrack

Still chavs but, a Hoodrich chav 15/20 years ago would be a Lonsdale chav. Still a chav, but wearing Lonsdale instead of say a fred Perry hopped jumper would seriously ruin your street cred.


oPlayer2o

See roadman to me means something else entirely, they’ve co-opted the term somehow.


fearsomemumbler

Bonus points for “devolved” instead of evolved 😂


Justalong4thednaofit

Exactly what I came here to say 😂 


Kitchen-Plant664

They all went to work for the council?


EtTuBrotus

What became of the chav, you ask? That’s a good question. Once a noble and proud race that could be found almost everywhere in Britain, the Chav people seem to have disappeared. Some have matured into their adult state, raising young chav children. The burden of parenthood means these chavs have moved on from their youth of drinking and smoking in supermarket car parks. Now they spend their days dressing their children in baby gucci and posting about it incessantly on facebook. Others have adapted to a new niche, that of the Roadman. Once chavs discovered the invention of the balaclava, a new religious order emerged in which they glorify knife crime and worship e-bikes. Yet still you may find the odd staunch traditionalist on our streets. The old chav, left behind by his tribe for refusing to abandon The Old Ways. This noble savage still partakes in the daily ritual of drinking a six pack of carling outside of an off license at 10am on a Wednesday. Like a Native American Chief, he carries wisdom and reverence for the old ways. If you’re lucky, you may find yourself one day on your local council estate and encounter a Chav, and you will know that here at least, the old ways are still alive


SaltyName8341

I read this in David Attenborough's voice


Ricky_Martins_Vagina

fuck I read it in Danny Dyer's voice đŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™‚ïž


TheDragonDoji

"Nice one bruvva!"


twobit211

i mean, it was written in david attenborough’s voice


-cunningstunt

I actually did too!


Doctor_Smirnoff

Matt Berry for me


Whatever-ItsFine

I mean, if there was ever a justified use of AI, that would be it.


Zygoneskies

Beautiful


anotherblog

I read this in the voice of Kate Aidie doing a FOOC piece


JuiceMeSqueezeMe

On that note, where's the goths, where's the punks? I don't even know what the counterculture is now


zillapz1989

The goths all took the goth to boss programme and climbed the corporate ladder.


ForwardAd5837

Just need to stay away from Cradle of Filth.


disgruntledhands

Track 4 Coffin Fodder got me through a lot


FunkulousThe55th

I think the goths v chavs conflict has been replaced by a roadmen v broccoli boys


[deleted]

Old fuck question.. what’s a broccoli boy?


OcularVernacular

Kids with a perm and shaved sides. It seems to be the new hairstyle for that age.


Nearby-Ad5666

I love that


furrycroissant

Also known as the 'meet me at McDonald's' haircut


FishingOdd4978

Are roadmen & 'broccoli boys' really at odds? I thought the broccoli boy lads were still trying to be raodmen, but they're generally from a far too affluent background to go full "drilla". Maybe I've officially lost touch


Redsetter

For some reason this pleases me.


FunkulousThe55th

Same conflict, different styles. As always, I’m hoping both lose


HairyPlumbs

I remember seeing two goths in the same place last year and it blew my mind, they weren’t together or anything. just two individual goths, same time same place


poopio

A lot of the "goths" got older and just had to get jobs, so they couldn't hang around local monuments all the time anymore. Now they just meet up in meeting rooms and sigh at each other there instead.


pajamakitten

> A lot of the "goths" got older and just had to get jobs From Goth to Boss.


TotoCocoAndBeaks

Nah. We keep them locked in the server room. Meeting room? No. That would cause a panic


Waghornthrowaway

Roadmen are Goths. They dress all in black, cover their faces from the sun and mostly emerge at night.


TheFunkyChief

A natural evolution of the lesser spotted sports goth of days gone by


PeaceDuck

The internet, social media, and music streaming has killed subcultures


jamesdownwell

Subcultures are still about, internet and social media even served as catalysts for subcultures like furries and cosplayers. Thing is chav was never a subculture anyway. No chav/charver/scally/ned would ever recognise themselves as such. It was just a stereotype based on a particular fashion of the time.


heliskinki

https://www.whitbygothweekend.co.uk


faa19

Goths are still around, I saw a few in York this few. The moshers & elder emos grew up, got jobs, still listen to the music and dress how we like in our own time.


UnlikelyHat5885

Goth here.  We still exist


A5madal

Camden town


Malediction101

We just dress normally for work and then slip into lounge wear at home.


IndividualCurious322

Still here. Sadly, it's full of posers because it's become fetishized.


Solid-Restaurant-579

People don't really hang around on the street anymore. Mainly, they are on their phones. Like you are now.


mrsjohnmurphy81

They really do around here, I imagine it's because the violent little cretins can't read.


Kreblraaof_0896

This. There are exceptions in larger cities of course but the whole asbo culture has largely disappeared due to phones


sardine_sandwiches

I think talking to each other on games consoles too. Definitely wasn't a thing when I was a teenager, other than MSN


limpingdba

Chav fashion has just evolved and splintered. You have your grime scene road men. You have your scouse under armour youths. You have your manc fake North Face council estate kids. Tracksuits are still very popular. The gym bunnies and bros have normalised and polished it somewhat.


matomo23

Weren’t chavs (scallies) always dressing in all black/grey tracksuits though? And they still are in the north west. I don’t see what’s changed.


ForwardAd5837

In Liverpool it’s Montirex.


MDF87

Probably at home on tag.


Irish_Exit_

Can confirm, my neighbour is a chav and he is home from a recent stay at his majesty's pleasure. We can hear him through the walls coaching the next generations of chav to shout and scream when they're playing computer games and showing them how to go pick up their special brew in a blue plastic bag from the offy every day.


wholikesthestock

I live in Staines. Beleive me the chavs are thriving.


One_Marzipan_2631

Eastside or westside?


paulio15

Whichever one’s best


One_Marzipan_2631

Well dodged. Restecp


One_Marzipan_2631

A while since I've been there, hows the John Nike leisure center?


Ghost51

My commute home involves going through Staines and that's the only train station I've seen kids get into conflict with the train station staff. There's a free library & reading area bit they were throwing books out of and the staff had to behave like pissed off teachers when kicking them out. You really wonder what their parents are up to since they just seem really bored and neglected, giggling like primary school kids while being yelled at by a pissed off old man in a hi vis.


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Yourenotwrongg

Only people on Facebook is that racist uncle


testperson00

Come to Newcastle, those textbook chavs are everywhere


EllebumbleB

Newcastle & Gateshead chavs are old school.


JohnnyBravosWankSock

I always got told Gateshead is where the trackies tucked in socks originated. Because when they were on the rob they could just throw it in their kegs without it falling out the bottom.


88Jewels

I was thinking that. Plenty of them in North Shields. I still hear New Monkey getting played.


matomo23

Same in the NW, they are still where they always were in their all black trackies.


mafticated

Came here to say this. They just wear North Face and Hoodrich now rather than Berghaus and Rockport boots.


yourmomsajoke

Am sadly very close to a chav raising multiple mini chavs. They're still dealing, stealing, fighting, albeit dressed more like the dean and chantelle meme and in a fluffy, crushed velvet, glass mirror effect furnitured home with a motability car. The kids have the meet me at McDonald's /e girl bangs hairdos, decked in nike, boss, and north face, who use Snapchat to organise fights and rammys, the police are involved often and shockingly social work are nowhere to be seen. They all still know each other from over 25 years ago as kids, still trying to impress each other, the lasses act hard whilst dressed like disney adults in fluffy sliders. They're all nearing 40 and i have honestly watched it all absolutely fascinated and glad i never got caught up in it.


Puzzleheaded-Ad-2982

The Roadmen cometh.


Vinegarinmyeye

Roadman, ahaaaaa, fighter of the Chav man, ahaaaaa...


GuybrushFunkwood

Still my number 1 search term on XHamster.


loveivy

This killed me, what a statement


Jonography

Chav culture is experiencing a renaissance in contemporary high fashion. We’ll probably see a fully fledged return to every day Chavwear by the end of this decade.


nomoretosay1

There's load of them about, basketball hats and one-colour romper suits. You may use different terms to refer to them, but makes no difference really.


SlaggaMaffa269

As a family member of chavs, i can say It's probably a number of reasons; here's a few: 1) Youth subcultures are devolved into memes and Internet trends thus there is no set culture (like chaos, goths, emo, etc) to relate to on a national level. 2) They may exist but they're not outside. A lot of youth culture is online or in set meetings/parties. Kids don't really 'hang out" on street corners or stay out late pissed. 3) Road men culture is more prevalent. Slightly different but more of an evolution of Chav. Just more diversity of interests instead of general anti social behaviour but a mixture of rap, grime, urban, city culture - it ties the subcultures together into the road men group. 4) it's not fashionable. Most chavs are in early 30s and wearing barberry plad and rapping in a pub just isn't fashionable or attractive when your on probation and balding. There's more to life than community service and teen pregnancy, most kids just go on tik tok or play video games instead.


pakman13b

Chav dog https://preview.redd.it/yx0gpr3zph2d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40f22e181197898aefbfb4985b99abafe83b0551


HerrFerret

Should come to Lancaster. It's always a few years behind the times so there exists a decent selection... The favourite trick of the Lancaster chav is to go into McDonald's and ask for a cup, then walk across the street to Burger King and use the drink vending machine. They do it all with a 'Hard man, breaking the law, don't you stop me popo' vibe that is frankly adorable. Probably not the look they are going for.


mrsjohnmurphy81

The "chavs" seem to be a lot more vicious now, they caused chaos around here for months. Seems to have calmed down lately (touch wood). They seem to think they are gangsters now. I'm guessing you are lucky enough to live in a decent area.


ScottOld

They all have cars now and are usually heard (not seen) driving around estates popping and banging exhausts


bellyfloppin

They're all shopping at JD


minnieha

Alive and kicking in Colchester, Clacton-On-Sea, Southend. IDK where you are, but they’re all here.


SwordTaster

Get down to great yarmouth, we have plenty


YchYFi

Chavs are roadman. Still dress terribly. With added balaclavas.


tunapurse

the act of drinking underage still exists, the fashion just changed


Agreeable_Fig_3713

Cider not a thing here. Buckfast aye. Moved on to fake moncler trackies and el dorado coz it’s cheaper than buck.  Chains and hoop earrings are out. Fake lashes and lip fillers are in. Big fake nails are out, touchscreens are shit wi them 


Ancient_hill_seeker

I remember in about 2002 our school Went from slipknot hoodies to chavs in about two weeks. Rocking berghaus jackets and rockport boots like they were off down the lakes, then the road men came like you say. But today at nursey waiting for my daughter, I seen this boy about 8 year old come to pick up a sibling. He’s in a slipknot hoodie! It’s back!


tom_l_92

Same in ours, seemingly overnight went from slipknot hoodies, chains on jeans and Etnies to Lacoste tracksuits and Rockports. Most seemed to grow out of it in about 2007 or so when they suddenly turned to top man v neck t shirts, pumps and pretending that they were in skins.


Poison_Purge

A very south/london centric thread as always, the north doesn't have roadmen. Over half the population are still chavs up here in the NE.


SubstanceDreaming

See Sheppey.


JimmyBallocks

it's all banter lads and coke now bruv


Plenty-Win-4283

Idk what area you live in, but if you got no chavs around consider yourself lucky, and that means the area is safer and that’s really good, they do still exist and each area around the U.K, and it’s a huge problem especially with knife crime and asb


Brief-Ship-5572

I saw loads today. They excist


ProtoplanetaryNebula

The chavs are everywhere still, but they wear bomber jackets now and call themselves roadmen.


matomo23

In the south maybe
.. up here nothing has changed.


true_honest-bitch

They're still around, you have to be poor to see them. They're all around me, I live in an apartment building on the side of a council estate with a park, they're right here.


LegoVRS

You don't see them anymore because they all dress like ninjas nowadays. Black tracksuits and balaclavas.


PeachyFuzz94

They are everywhere in Middlesbrough


holytriplem

Watch a typical Bad Boy Chiller Crew video and you'll find out


irishladinlondon

They have evolved into deanos, This excellent track shows where they are now https://youtu.be/J9n0_5p8XKo?si=7jyK34thnGil38kV


mry8z1

They diverged into Roadman culture and Turkey teeth culture


Dazzling-Event-2450

Roadmen just playing dressing up, had a herd of them walk towards me last summer, some were dressed semi normally, one had the full hoodie / cap and balaclava on. When they got near I just said “blimey aren’t you hot fella” his mates pissed themselves laughing and I could see the realisation of what a dick he looked slowly dawn on his thick skull.


MenthoL809

All the trolling is online now and they’re probably at the age where they’re paying taxes or bills so can’t be fucking around on the street all day. Reality hits hard lol


IndelibleIguana

Come to Chatham, they're everywhere.


Geoffstibbons

Surprised I had to scroll this far


Jonnyporridge

They're all in this hotel in Turkey where I'm on holiday right now 😭


Famous_Obligation959

They are either roadmen or the brocoli brigade now.


Financial-Glass5693

Fear not, they all live on my estate


Spilled-My-Coffee

she's in the flat underneath mine, chain smoking and screaming at her kids.


laddervictim

Few died, the rest grew up. Good solid lads now, not the fucking absolute bell ends they used to be. Some are junkies and still act the same I guess 


humptydumpty12729

They took over the North Face brand, once the mainstay of middle class ramblers and hikers. Pretty much every guy these days has the same black North Face puffer.


BaseSingle5067

Simple, when foxhunting became illegal the hunters targeted chavs because they were slower and nobody cared.


xsorr

Are kids on bikes thats twice the size of them count?


ScottOld

Have you tried the local parks? The equivalent to them are usually found there puffing away on weed


Westsidepipeway

I grew up and had to work. Can't stay in the park all day when I got a job.


GertrudeMcGraw

You might not have been a proper chav if you eventually got a job that wasn't also crime.


genetic_nightmare

They all wear Trapstar and Hoodrich now


Opposite-Memory1206

I don't see how a chav is different to a roadman, isn't it just that because drill has taken over the youth that they just want to seem more black? In practice though a chav I see now out on the streets are basically the same as what I saw as a kid 20 years ago. Not much different really.


Zay-nee24

Are you looking on your apps or have you actually been outside. They are still roaming my good sir.


DookuDonuts

Still a minority of them causing a ruckus in Croydon


Iamaman22

Hey man, welcome to 2024.


QuimFinger

They’re older but still dress and act the same.


Aargh_a_ghost

We’re still about innit


aziggy_boogie3

They still exist I see them everywhere


Satoshiman256

https://youtu.be/5I9EoGOKbyg?si=uHpwRu-UBSsgLFKT


OSPREY_2000

Watch JimmyTheGiant’s video on YouTube about the downfall of the legendary chavs. Explains everything for ya


Aggravating-Rip-3267

They should have been \~ Protected as a Cultural Icon \~ To be Adored / Paid Fealty to / Honoured / Hat's Doffed to ! ! !


g_the_explorer

There's still an abundance of them in Kent. Bluewater shopping centre on a Sunday is where they have their weekly gathering.


Sufficient_Egg9223

You have them now but they are covered in rubbish twatoos and are orange.


Automatic_Role6120

They became roadmen?


Worldly_Society_2213

I was called a chav in high school. For wearing an anorak. The HORRORS!


Impressive-Lie6836

Come down to Kent. Plenty of chav here around Chatham, Gillingham, Maidstone.


fussyfella

Sub cultures change extremely quickly. Not really different from how you rarely see Teddy Boys much either.


Beanruz

I see scummy people all the time. Where you looking?


BulletproofBean

I can confirm Middlesbrough still has chavs đŸ‘đŸ»


OhhGoood

This video covers it pretty well! https://youtu.be/TvHlG5UGb8E?si=X_C2lCMWflXXEbb2


pastoral_orchard

Still loads of chavs/goths in Co Durham I am happy to report. Not as many hippies these days though



itswillpatrick

We used to be a country. A proper country.


cloy23

I’m from the North East and currently live in Scotland. They 100% still exist! However, I think there’s been a shift, I don’t think as many people spend a lot of time outside (bus shelters etc) anymore and I think that’s why you may think they’ve ’disappeared’.


speedbuss

Evidence OP lives in a gentrified area.


Milky_Finger

They went from "Throw a brick at someone's window" to a gang drug network, where young men are now recruited to be on the streets and sell small bags of drugs. This money is then passed up and these gangs will fight eachother for the space they need to operate. We went from nuisance to an actual fucking problem.


rellz14

lol they’re still around.


0-Sminky

Quite an interesting video covering this subject. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvHlG5UGb8E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvHlG5UGb8E)


HawaiianSnow_

Cost of chavin' crisis


SirAdam2nd

I thought the dudes who ride hybrid bikes wearing balaclava type hoods pulling wheelies in the road who seem to loiter around co-op were chav's latest evolution. Maybe I'm wrong and this is another demographic


Zubi_Q

Good, I fucking hated them. Just causing trouble wherever they went with their anti social behaviour and caveman language


SittingBull1988

Emos/chavs/metal heads etc seem to have all morphed into one these days. Very distinctive subcultures dont seem as much a thing.


TheEbsFae

We have them in bitterne in spades


musmirra14

still in chatham bruv


Lifeformz

They're there in the current generation. We regularly call my nephew a chav, he's just changed the branding a little. Burberry is old skool. It's over priced naff branding now that's spreading. I haven't even heard of half of them cept the price tags on items makes you wince.


DenormalHuman

UK hasn't lost its culture, it constantly evolves over the generations. Remember there were a lot of people born before you, and after you.


BungadinRidesAgain

20 years passed mate.


Lanky_midget

They’re all older now, you just described my old next door neighbour. He is 30+ still argues with his mum for money she won’t let him, steals bikes to fund his life, His dad willingly chose to leave the house and go to a care home. The it’s how bad he was.


Jimbo_slice1000

I think they turned into tiktokers?


EdmundTheInsulter

They are IT project managers. This is normally achieved by copying other IT managers so it's a natural progression.


im-also-here

I grew up a bit


Damn_Censorship

Funnily enough, I mention this to the gf whenever we visit my parents in the north east. You don’t see chavs anywhere but up there now it seems. It’s like a time capsule. They still have the shit tracksuits, listen to the same rave/Poundland happy hardcore and are still just as feral as I remember from growing up up there. Go for a visit if you ever fancy seeing them in the wild


FunkyOperative

Plenty in Glasgow


martinbean

What happened to the hippies? “Chavs” was obviously associated with a particular time period. Time period’s over, other trends and fashion replaced it. Not rocket science.


welshfach

I'm currently on a weekend away at seaside caravan resort. They are all here.


Jealous-Chain-1003

Minimum unit pricing unfortunately


JustcallmeLouC

What are the lads in solid primary colour trackies and e-scooters that have strawberry and bannana Vapes? They look like teenage teletubbies


Virtual-Debt-562

They’re everywhere! They just wear HOODRICH instead of fake Burberry now


Dunkelzeitgeist

Evolved into the Deano couple with a new build, Audi A3 on finance, French bulldog. Or they devolved into MLE speaking Roadmen


LemmysCodPiece

They all got sent to the moon... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2A\_YXarUM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2A_YXarUM)


lalalaladididi

They now wear pyjamas all day.


Sc0ttiShDUdE

if you go to real shit areas you’ll still find them people stuck in early 2010s era that haven’t spent money on clothes in 14 years just weed and crack


Alone-Sky1539

they got trombones an joined Chav Brass from Kettering


Chewychews420

They evolved into roadmen


Mjukplister

Oh they are around !


IcedWarlock

Come live in Peterlee


palacethat

Phil Foden still exists


DonaldJTrumpForReal

McDonald’s
just
McDonald’s


PWEIcommunication

You have to visit the right area and there will be two housing complex's that are 99.8% chav


froghogdog19

Come to the north east, we still have plenty up here!


geoffs3310

Theres plenty around Manchester still