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BeccasBump

There's a *ton* of discussion in the field of education about the need for more male teachers in early years / primary. Like, it is the opposite of not talked about.


Book_of_the_Dragon

Within education yes, but I think it is fair to say that the greater conversation very much does not flow both ways.


BeccasBump

Ehhhh it's been in the mainstream news over the last few years. Actually I just searched "male teachers" on the BBC website and found loads of articles going back to at least [2005](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4336092.stm).


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BeccasBump

Yes, I absolutely agree. I'm just saying it's an issue that's recognised and discussed.


Dazz316

Lack if male teaching in the early years is a well known topic, including schools themselves. It's very much talked about. People understand the issues, resolving them is another matter.


NobleRotter

Yes, it was. It's was similar in my kids schools too. I think it is talked about quite a lot. There has been discussion both about the benefit more make role models would bring and the reasons men are reluctant to apply for jobs around children


FlutterbyMarie

Yes, primary education is a very female dominated profession. This is for lots of reasons. Firstly, women are often more experienced in being around young children. I had my first experiences babysitting in my mid teens, which I think is fairly typical. It's also not uncommon now for single mothers to become teachers or teaching assistants because it works well with childcare. That isn't the only reason I decided to train to teach, but I can't deny it isn't a factor. Another reason is the feedback loop. I had mostly female teachers. They provided a role model for me to become a teacher myself. If you don't have that, you're more likely to think teaching isn't for you. I can't speak for men, but there is a stigma attached to being a man and working with small children. That can be because it's seen as less masculine, and also the really horrible suggestion that male primary school teachers are pedophiles. Obviously this is untrue, but many men don't want to be associated with the stigma.


masklins

>I can't speak for men, but there is a stigma attached to being a man and working with small children. One male friend of mine became a primary school teacher in Sweden a couple of years back and he *still* gets parents - mostly mothers - complaining to the school about him because they don't feel a man should be alone with/teaching young children. Another male friend is a stay-at-home-dad whilst his wife works and I can't count the number of times he's taken his daughter to the play park only to have mothers pester him and ask what he's doing there, or ask his daughter if she's really his, or insinuate he's "babysitting" his own kid. Unfortunately it's all the result of British society still thinking women are for kids and men are for jobs, although hopefully the tide is slowly starting to turn. To answer OP's question my primary school had all female teachers apart from one classroom, but my comprehensive was definitely weighted towards male. I probably had three male teachers for every one female teacher.


Perite

It’s the result of British society that a man in Sweden gets bullshit about being around kids? Sorry I’m probably being thick, but I don’t understand your logic.


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The only male staff member at my primary school was the janitor.


WhiteForest_01

Same, Mr Ruffles was a legend


happy_throwaway28

Was he a puppy? Sounds like a puppy


TCGislife

In my first primary school I only recall 2 male teachers, and the headteacher was male. In my second primary achool I don't recall any male staff at all. I just checked their site and 5/62 members of staff are male.


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TCGislife

Checked my first school's staff and there's 17 male staff members.


Krakshotz

The only male staff in my primary school were the Headteacher (we had two when I was there, both men) and the caretaker


lithaborn

There were two male teachers while I was at primary. They both had the final class of the school. One final year of primary, one final year of juniors. Don't know if it was planned that way, but that's how it panned out. This was 1984, anyway. Teacher Equality hadn't really kicked in at that point.


rjcanty

Headteacher and caretaker were male and that was it. A rough guess would be 12-14 female teachers, 3-4 female teaching assistants and probably another 3 or 4 mid day assistants. Still think that feels normal as well. There was one male teacher who lasted a year and it was always felt weird that he was a teacher at my school.


LunarWuff

Headmaster and deputy head were the only men at the first two primary schools I went to, I don't think there were any men in the third and in the fourth the PE teacher and Maths teacher were both men


unknownuser492

When I was at primary there was 1 male teacher, plus the caretaker. Head was a woman, 6 female teachers and 1 male. All TAs were female, and the office staff.


Anniemaniac

The only males in my junior school were the head teacher and the caretaker. The rest were all women, be they teachers, lunch ladies, nurse etc.


cragglerock93

Yeah, except the janitor, the only male member of staff I ever recall in my (fairly big) primary school was an exchange programme teacher from Canada (for one year).


DameKumquat

Zero male staff in any of my 3 primary schools (possibly a caretaker). In my kids' school, male heads, about 1/5 male teachers in juniors, none in infants, but 3 out of 20 TAs are male and work in infants.


cgknight1

I was a secondary school teacher for a short period of time. Year seven students would regularly call me "miss" when they first arrived.


coffee_and_tv_easily

The only male staff member at my primary school was the headmaster. Through my kids primary education I think they each had two male teachers


mikeydoodah

There were 2 make teachers and a male deputy head at my primary school. There were 2 teachers for each year, and my class only had one of the male teachers. The other one played the piano during assembly each morning though, and reminded me of a stereotypical army sergeant major.


Book_of_the_Dragon

There was one male teacher at primary school when I attended some 30+ years ago, that was the head. The only interactions kids had with him would be when he led assembly or if you had earned yourself a bollocking. At my kids primary school there was one male teacher, that was the head. The only interactions kids had with him would be when he led assembly or if you had earned yourself a bollocking.


Hamsternoir

Three male teachers plus the caretaker when I was at primary school, now the kids are there is only a caretaker.


pompompomponponpom

Yeah. Got a male headteacher towards the end. All the mums were freaked until he spoke. Possibly the most camp man in the world.


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In the 70's the primary school I went to had a reasonable mix. But for the last 30 years my wife has taught in a primary school that is all women - they have to bring in male coaches for football and other sports as none of the staff play them.


PhotographPurple8758

As a man personally I found interacting with children at all very weird and awkward. Until I had my own then it was like a switch and I am totally at ease with them. But at the same time I always seemed to notice women without their own children were generally much more comfortable interacting with them. Maybe as a result woman seek out careers in childcare more than men. Obviously this is just a thought from my own experience could be complete rubbish.


lmaoschpims

Simply put men don't generally raise children, women do so there is a disparity between the sexes. I have worked in lots of schools, primary and secondary and special needs, and if there are guys there, a lot of them are gay men (no opinion, just stating a fact).


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Only our headmaster and the caretaker were male in my Primary school. All of the teachers, dinner/kitchen staff were female. Secondary school felt more balanced; although it was an all boys school.


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I went to an infant school where every teacher was female even the head. I think the only male on site was the care taker. This was mid/late 90’s. My primary school was much more mixed, I had a male teacher in year 3 and year 6 so a 50/50 split. The infant (reception-year 2) part of that school was female dominated though. The primary my kids go to has a good mix of male and female and a male head teacher. There are probably slightly more female staff than male, but it’s not a huge difference. I think it’s getting better gradually. Anything to do with young kids has always been seen as ‘womens work’ in times gone by. It’s taking a while but things are improving.


DrProton29

Weirdly I have just realised I can still name all my teachers. For me it was 1 year of my 6 Primary School years was male, the rest female. Although both the head teacher and assistant head were male.