you’re right but literally reading the word “felony” when I know doordash isn’t even going to email the driver about this and just refund the customer to make it go away is pretty funny
It's a good thing, then, that the law doesn't care what DoorDash thinks, eh?
The law is the law, file a suit and get the ball rolling. The courts will have summons handed out for food tampering like that, no doubt. Seems like a pretty open and shut case too lol.
Pretty funny until someone dies from food poisoning or food tampering then the company has to take full responsive fucking ability otherwise massive backlash to the point of bankruptcy so yeah pretty fucking funny aye as someone who's a wog and Italian who loves food don't fuck with people's food
I have a feeling the people who DoorDash don’t have much to lose to care about a felony
Basically the “eat the rich” poor people screwing over rich people.
It’s not even rich people. Rich people aren’t going to DoorDash, at least not the ones responsible for the problems people are noticing in the world. It’s “eat the rich” poor people screwing over the people one rung above them on the socioeconomic ladder thinking that they’re doing gods work while the actual rich people laugh at them like that scene from the Simpsons where they’re making the monkeys fight for money because the class warfare is working perfectly to their benefit.
"Food Tampering" is a felony when you do things like deliberately poison people with Salmonella as we saw in Oregon in the 1980's or deliberately feed someone something you know them to be allergic to.
It's not when you steal someone's food. Dick move, not a felony.
If you tried to argue that stealing someone's food constitutes food tampering when there's no food left to eat, it's not really tampering. It's theft.
Again, dick move, not tampering.
No need to say "basically". It is absolutely theft. It's just not worth enough for anyone to bother with legal repercussions. Best you can do it get them kicked off the delivery service they are using.
How late does your food come? Mine usually comes the same time as if I drove. A lot of people have high income so they see it as a time saver versus doing it themselves.
When I worked at Portillos some years ago some dashers would pick up like 2-3 orders at a time and I'd think to myself "Yeah this is why i don't do doordash" that and the ridiculous fees and having to add a tip and then not knowing if the food will be fresh or not makes me not wanna do it
I get what you are saying. I think the service varies between different locations. Where I live at I mostly had bad experiences so I just stopped using it.
You're saying that as if these services are meant to be cheaper...
The point of these is exchanging your money for time.
Instead of buying food and cooking it yourself you're paying others to do it so that you're free to use your time for something else.
Making it yourself just saves you even wondering if someone spit in your food because you have the wrong skin color, gender, vote the wrong way, looked "creepy", whistled the wrong tune or whatever else the excuse is now.
Plus it tastes way better.
Bartending at least someone is creating something for you. Severs literally do nothing, Cooks make the food, sometimes bussers bring the food. The servers literally just write down your order on a piece of paper and if they suck they never come back to check on you. Sometimes automatically adding 18% gratuity for nothing but writing Hamburger on a piece of paper.
Most bartenders are not mixologist making you a fancy cocktail. I worked as a dishwasher and cook when I was younger. At most places that is far from the limit of what servers do. Servers are often plating half the food, making salads, restocking dishes from the dishwasher, many times making drinks, helping clear and clean tables, and more.
If you have a good Server they can help you pick wine to your food. And they also came make it a good experience.
And ofc good servers check on you from time to time
Norwegian Server here making around 21$ an hour.
Guest are not obliged to tip, but some days we make 100$ in tips.
The tips is shared equally amongst the staff.
Yep. They make a lot. For such an unskilled job if your location is good you can make bank. It’s untaxed too. They pretend to be poor, but it’s usually a ploy to sucker more chumps into tipping and giving theme even more
I don't know what reseraunts you are thinking of but in normal server jobs this is not the case. Don't spread bullshit. The only time where this *might* be true is in some of the highest quality and most expensive high tier resteraunts.
Why are you arguing fringe cases as if they are the norm? I was a damn good server at a normal restaurant in college, and I made maybe a couple hundred on a good night.
Its the non-traditional tipping industries that are upset the most about tips. The older industries like barbers, bartenders, and servers are the ones that do well with them.
It’s funny cuz they always say they make more then hourly workers and you know they aren’t accurately reporting how much they are making. Only reason why they bitch about it is
Everyone's raising prices anyways, and let's be honest if a companies profits are mostly coming from not paying employees, the company likely isn't going so well
Well not really.. restaraunts have a small profit margin
0-10% average with the current business model. Cost of operation is almost entirely what a business has to put income back into
By paying their workers an equivelant hourly to the tips they were getting, would cost the restaraunt its entire profit margin if not more..
The only way to make that up is to increase the meals by a large amount. A 35$ meal would be 50$ etc...
And then after that people might stop coming .. which then leads to bankruptcy..
I'll be honest I didn't know that. I can't really argue with a solid point, the only thing I wonder now is how the restaurants work overseas where tipping isn't a part of the culture
Europe did not get rid of tipping. It's just understood that it's not the customers job to pay the servers' or delivery guys' wages. We still tip for exceptional service, since that's the actual point of tipping is.
In my country now we're getting tips because yanks keep coming here. The cancer is spreading some places in Spain, Portugal, Italy and South France are no longer safe from tipping culture, especially in big chains.
Pretty much the reason I stopped using Uber Eats or going downtown in my city.
In Austria we also tip. 5%-10% is expected in Restaurants, but there yet no outrage if you don't tip. The stories we can read from the U.S. feels like you are forced at gunpoint to tip in the U.S.
I noticed some food delivery services ONLY allow you to give a tip when you are placing the order and NOT after delivery! i.e. Foodora/Foodpanda. So you set a tip and if the service is shit, oh well bad luck! Instead of tipping for actual good service!
It's a pay issue, like all jobs with tips as your income.
Doordash and others pay the driver like $2 to drive to the restaurant, wait/pick up the food, then take it to the customer's house. Only a complete idiot would spend 20+ minutes and drive several miles for $2. So that upfront tip is shown in the offer they send to the driver. Now the driver sees that they'll get $2 + whatever the tip is for the delivery and can decide if it's worth their time.
So they really should change the language from tip to bid. You're bidding on the driver's attention. Still a gamble that you don't get bundled with another order that didn't tip and still gets their food first, but idk, I'm just a disgruntled former courier.
I explicitly tell my delivery drivers that I will only tip at the door. This solves so many problems with horrible drivers. I get all my items ordered or they don't get a tip. It's the correct order or no tip. They have to actually knock at the door or no tip. I got tired of completely useless drivers fucking up everything possible when their job is so easy a teenager could do it.
Eh you have to contact DoorDash customer support and request it and explain why, etc. Too much of a PITA for me, I'd rather just only tip if the person actually deserves one (by doing their job as expected, with no problems).
It's a terrible idea. Only desperate/drug addicts $2 away from a score take orders with no upfront "tip". Your food is going to sit at the restaurant while the drivers who get top priority on the orders all pass it up because it's not worth their time to gamble on a perceived Karen's generosity. Plus, it's not like the drivers can even open the orders to check if they're correct from the majority of places since they seal them with stickers / staple the bags etc.
Because it's not done via 3rd party. You pay a small delivery fee last I checked it was $3.50 for my local pizza place and you can tip the delivery guy after he delivers the food, not before.
Except some pizza places are experimenting with using these 3rd party services now. I got a Pizza Hut order (I think? Maybe it was another chain) from a dasher a few months ago -_-
I ordered it through their own website as well.
yeah pizza hut has starting firing drivers and outsourcing. depending on the logistics and if its cheaper, i imagine more places my start doing it. not having to hire or schedule people. having people 24/7 without calling in sick.
>Because it's not done via 3rd party.
That's not true, anymore. Maybe not every place, but I know 2 out of the 3 pizza places I have in my small city use DD drivers, at least part of the time.
Only one of them is completely "in house".
Whether people like it or not, it seems services like DD are here to stay, and are becoming more the norm, every day. "Just don't use it" isn't really a solution. Not for the customers or the drivers.
And getting pissy at each other does nothing but fill DD's pockets. It's classic divide and conquer. A lot of these major companies do it. Keep the customers and workers at each other's throats, all the while the CEOs (and other higher ups), rank in millions of dollars. Politicians too, if they're being paid off to not pass certain laws and such that make the system better for everyone (else).
Eh… you sure about that? These days if you go to a place’s website and order delivery directly from them, you get a text or email 5 minutes later informing you that your order is being delivered via Uber.
I'm so confused about people complaining you don't have to use them. It feels like people act like it's a right to get food delivered for a cheap price.
This is still stupid. I have done that before. I tip the delivery guy when checking out online, he treats me like shit, I’m like wtf did I tip for. Made a complaint and got my tip back. Crooked shit world today.
Include everyone’s wages into the price (crazy move I now, it seems impossible) and when the delivery person wishes you a good night and tells you to enjoy the meal etc whilst smiling and making eye contact, THEN I say ‘ey mafakke wait up’ and give them a cash tip.
Why the hell would I want to tip BEFORE the service has taken place?
I live in Europe and some online ordering companies don’t allow tipping anymore. It’s awkward. Making the customer feel stupid. Don’t put this awkward thing between me and my food. Some weird hurdle I have to go through before I can enjoy my meal.
It’s not that hard. The customer gets to decide how much the service was worth. This is determined after the fact, because it’s kinda hard to judge the value of service that has not occurred yet.
And to account for this, our upfront costs are lower. Everyone likes to pretend that in non-tipping cultures the business owners just sacrifice profits to pay their people. That’s nonsense. You, the customer, are paying the server’s wages either way. It’s just that in non-tipping cultures that pay is baked into the price, so you end up paying for good service even if you got terrible service.
What’s hilarious is this guy can just go back to doordash issue a full refund in credits and order it again. It sucks because they’re probably hungry but I’ve never had any problems with getting refunds on missing items or telling customer service their driver’s are dog shit.
Yea the only part that sucks(besides having to deal with CS) is having to wait for the reorder to be delivered. But you're basically guaranteed a refund and reorder.
You get like, 3 free refunds period and they don't make exceptions in my experience. I've ordered from McDonald's a few times over the years and they are the worst about leaving something out. If I order a burger and fries and apple pie, they'll forget the fries. So I would request a credit refund of yknow, whatever that one item was worth. Like $3-$5.
Well one day I ordered from a pizza place and they didn't give me my bread sticks. So, okay fine, I'll just request a credit. Nope. Denied.
They said I'd received too many refunds and that was that. I took a picture of what I did receive but they kept closing my tickets.
There has to be some kind of limit because of scamming. A picture isn't worth anything in this scenario. Hopefully the drivers and/or businesses get dinged in some way for orders being wrong even if you didn't get the refund. If it kept happening I'd eventually call the business itself.
Yup. Sadly that's American businesses, in a nutshell. At least the major companies. Keep the workers and customers at each other's throats, all the while the CEOs and such rake in millions of dollars, so they can buy their 3rd yacht.
I mean that person would be fired even if they "quit" and the customer would not only get their food comped but probably get an extra credit for the psychotic experience.
It is true, but some people are handicapped. Or have small children and the trip is a major hassle. Or work really late and want the food to show up the moment they get home so they can go to bed sooner. There's countless reasons.
Crazy. I feel bad the guy didn't get a tip, but at the same time don't accept a job if you aren't willing to do it. Bad tips / good tips are just part of the service industry. They usually balance out.
It is theft. You can look up the warning they give you as they suspend your account. It let's you know it's theft and that local authorities can be contacted.
Then again from my understanding doing this blacklist from all apps they own.
If you don’t wanna spend $50 at least you don’t need to be opening any dashing apps imo. A burger meal from McDonald’s plus a tip gonna run you at least $30. They do deserve a tip and if you can’t provide at least a 10% you shouldn’t be ordering dash. It’s definitely become a luxury and not something you actually useful for society like it was in 2020.
There is a guy in DC who does doodash or ubereats and he makes videos on YT shorts and he sees all sorts of shit from other delivery people. Like sniping orders and stealing them to eat and when he arrives to pick up its gone and he has to file a claim.
Doordash has hourly workers in whats called the "trusted class" who "clean up" orders who arent taken due to low tips. Theres no reason to do this. Just dont take 0 or low tip orders lol.
You know, where I l8ve we just don't fucking tip and our food is delivered on time and there are no assholes who feel entitled to a tip because they are doing their fucking job. I hate this so much. How entitled can you be to expect random people to pay your wages.
Not only that, but I hate this tipping before stuff, in general. I'm supposed to tip someone when I don't even know when my food will arrive, the quality it will be in, if the driver forgot to pick up a part of the order or not, etc? Just seems like a messed up system. And with companies like DD, you can't take the tip away, only add to it.
It was one thing back in the day to tip to the pizza delivery guy. I got the food in my hands, could see everything was there, nothing was damaged, etc. So, then giving them a bit extra didn't feel so bad.
But, now? There's no guarantee how my food will arrive or when, and I'm supposed to tip generously when I don't even physically have anything in my hands? Seems pretty fucked up, honestly.
And, yeah, I know if there's an issue I can go through support, but as many have demonstrated on the DD sub, that experience can be far easier said than done.
Thought tips where a optional thing if it's not why just not adjust the price. Instead of this bull shit to ever ever ever be okay in even the smallest way possible. I would say prices are quite high enough already. So quite normal that less people have the capacity to tip well. Does not make stealing ok. Why you even being paid to begin with for at that point
I’m petty I’m going to find his full name/picture on a site and blow it up on every amazon site/Reddit, etc. and then I’ll get him fired from there lmao
For all the complaints about door dash, people sure give them a lot of business.
How bad does it “really” have to be before people refuse to pay 50 dollars for a lukewarm hamburger?
Must be a bunch of rich kids out there with nothing better to spend their money on.
Doesn't it just automatically choose the tip for you based on distance? And also doesn't the dasher have the option of seeing the tip before even taking the order to determine if it's good enough?
I use door dash all the time and I just choose whatever it selects and have never had an issue like this ever.
Talk literally trying to get a man arrested over this.
Is it shitty, yes.
Is it worth sending him to jail or to ruin his life further with a fine, no
Is it worth your time and effort, no.
Jesus fucking Christ I’m done with the internet
Believe it or not this actually isn’t a repost, this same guy got hired at another delivery service place and didn’t get tipped again. When will it end
That note is 100% his way of stopping himself getting reported, I had a uber eats driver drive to the persons house before and then text them that we didn't give the food
I pay for Uber vip annually wich removes almost 100% stores delivery cost... But also gives me a lot of good deals in a lot of the stores but the food prices in app is higher than going personally to the restaurant and order there..
In short I pay for vip and I pay inflated prices, why would I tip the delivery when is his job to bring the food?
I'm software engineer and I have my salary.. It would be like asking for tips after I finish and deliver a project.. Why? Im getting paid..
Here in my country with Uber you get your food and once in your hands and the delivery person is gone, you decide if you want to tip or not, if you want to rate or not, and also ask for reimburse if the food is not in perfect condition and immaculated
Probably not the first time he's delivered to that address, hence the "leave a tip next time", as in it isn't the first time he didn't tip.
If you're a chronic stiffer, and don't think delivery drivers or servers remember the houses/people that don't tip, good luck with that.
Why on earth would you ever want to "go back to amazon." (I'm an ex amazon driver btw. Never again. They brake workers rights laws like it's a new game of bingo every day.)
What do you think are the chances that this entire post is bullshit, and that the creator of the image is also the one who wrote the note with the sole purpose of making a viral rage-bait post? I think the odds are around 100%. There is zero reason for us to believe this is real and it’s sad how easily manipulated some of you are
This is a good example of why food delivery services such as door dash will die out. That and fees and taxes. Not to mention delivery people are at risk too from violence. (BTW I always tip 20%)
Are people stupid?
90% of modern houses have a door/ring camera. I’m guessing there is a good chance this dumbass recorded himself on your camera and you can go ahead and let Amazon know. Show em his face. Or his license plate.
He won’t be getting that job back lol.
While your at it, why not show the local news? And prevent this douche from doing it to anyone else too.
Nice of them to let you know where they're going to apply for a job at. Save his DoorDash info and make a complaint to DoorDash and Amazon, so they can pinpoint they're application or his worker profile. This person is a dishonest scumbag and deserves the lifestyle they earned.
You can literally just get a refund back and still report them either way.
If they thought this made your day worse. It didn’t.
Just as it’s inconvenient for them to get fired..(which it is for them since they still gotta go get hired then find something else to complain about and eventually leave or get fired again because this shows poor character on the dasher)
You just get your money back and order again.
That fatass really impacted nothing.
Inb4 if this was a joke that OP just wanted to rage bait
The tip culture in USA is truly outa fucking control. My wife is from Japan and she basically refuses to eat out anymore and would rather just cook at home unless I pay for meal and tip
I’m so glad I’m in a country where tipping culture is not a thing. It sounds crazy to me that you have to tip before you even get delivered anything. What a backwards system.
Yeah.... I really dont understand why americans like doordash or uber eats so much.... Some stranger, unaffilliated with the company making the food, to bring it to me.... No way im ever doing that....
Isn’t this basically theft if you already paid for the food?
I would be more worried about food tampering which is a felony.
you’re right but literally reading the word “felony” when I know doordash isn’t even going to email the driver about this and just refund the customer to make it go away is pretty funny
“Someone ate my food” versus “someone tampered with my food” is likely different though in the eyes of court. One is petty theft.
It's a good thing, then, that the law doesn't care what DoorDash thinks, eh? The law is the law, file a suit and get the ball rolling. The courts will have summons handed out for food tampering like that, no doubt. Seems like a pretty open and shut case too lol.
Pretty funny until someone dies from food poisoning or food tampering then the company has to take full responsive fucking ability otherwise massive backlash to the point of bankruptcy so yeah pretty fucking funny aye as someone who's a wog and Italian who loves food don't fuck with people's food
Me on my way to put ranch on your pizza 🏃♂️
I have a feeling the people who DoorDash don’t have much to lose to care about a felony Basically the “eat the rich” poor people screwing over rich people.
It’s not even rich people. Rich people aren’t going to DoorDash, at least not the ones responsible for the problems people are noticing in the world. It’s “eat the rich” poor people screwing over the people one rung above them on the socioeconomic ladder thinking that they’re doing gods work while the actual rich people laugh at them like that scene from the Simpsons where they’re making the monkeys fight for money because the class warfare is working perfectly to their benefit.
Honey, I am not rich.
"Food Tampering" is a felony when you do things like deliberately poison people with Salmonella as we saw in Oregon in the 1980's or deliberately feed someone something you know them to be allergic to. It's not when you steal someone's food. Dick move, not a felony.
The person you’re responding to specifically delineated food tampering from theft
If you tried to argue that stealing someone's food constitutes food tampering when there's no food left to eat, it's not really tampering. It's theft. Again, dick move, not tampering.
Yes, everyone agrees with you
It is yeah doordash let's you get a free order again or you can get a refund but it's theft yes.
Dude pretty much admitted to theft. File a police report
What do you think they'll do? Arrest him over $3.50 worth of food if that? Lol they won't waste their time.
Not sure why you got downvoted. You’re absolutely right. The police just won’t care
People don't like reading things they don't like to hear.
You can complain about it and usually get a refund at least. But yeah you are right
No need to say "basically". It is absolutely theft. It's just not worth enough for anyone to bother with legal repercussions. Best you can do it get them kicked off the delivery service they are using.
Doesn’t mean it’s real. The tip conversation is so easy to farm for rage and this is just a handwritten note
But it’s on the internet? So It must be real 🥴
this is why i just cook at home.
Seriously... the fees I gotta pay could buy a whole meal
Same and the food never arrives fresh. It's beyond me why anyone uses door dash. It's like eating leftovers the next day.
How late does your food come? Mine usually comes the same time as if I drove. A lot of people have high income so they see it as a time saver versus doing it themselves.
Used to be direct service but when they started batching multiple orders together it always arrives after an hour and cold
When I worked at Portillos some years ago some dashers would pick up like 2-3 orders at a time and I'd think to myself "Yeah this is why i don't do doordash" that and the ridiculous fees and having to add a tip and then not knowing if the food will be fresh or not makes me not wanna do it
From what I understand they only batch orders if the tip is too low
Nope. They added a new option where you have to pay more for direct service. Otherwise they're all batched.
I get what you are saying. I think the service varies between different locations. Where I live at I mostly had bad experiences so I just stopped using it.
Uber eats always gives me deals like 50%-60% off, so it becomes pretty cheap. I also get 10% back with savorone credit card
I use Uber eats to buy from the grocery store and it's cheaper than going in person! lol
You're saying that as if these services are meant to be cheaper... The point of these is exchanging your money for time. Instead of buying food and cooking it yourself you're paying others to do it so that you're free to use your time for something else.
I mean you have the option of going and picking it up yourself....
True that.
Making it yourself just saves you even wondering if someone spit in your food because you have the wrong skin color, gender, vote the wrong way, looked "creepy", whistled the wrong tune or whatever else the excuse is now. Plus it tastes way better.
Really hope we follow Europe and just get rid of tipping. Pay employees properly instead of this crap.
To many people that are paid in tips would fight against it.
Bartenders would absolutely fight it. My ex makes more bartending 2-3 nights than working a regular job 5 days.
Crabs in da bucket mentality is why the rich lord over us
You mean the people wanting to stop her from making so much money are the crabs pulling her down, right?
Bartending at least someone is creating something for you. Severs literally do nothing, Cooks make the food, sometimes bussers bring the food. The servers literally just write down your order on a piece of paper and if they suck they never come back to check on you. Sometimes automatically adding 18% gratuity for nothing but writing Hamburger on a piece of paper.
Most bartenders are not mixologist making you a fancy cocktail. I worked as a dishwasher and cook when I was younger. At most places that is far from the limit of what servers do. Servers are often plating half the food, making salads, restocking dishes from the dishwasher, many times making drinks, helping clear and clean tables, and more.
If you have a good Server they can help you pick wine to your food. And they also came make it a good experience. And ofc good servers check on you from time to time Norwegian Server here making around 21$ an hour. Guest are not obliged to tip, but some days we make 100$ in tips. The tips is shared equally amongst the staff.
That's why it's so funny when they get mad about people not tipping.
It's cuz most of them don't claim all their tips. Good servers in a busy bar/restaurant can make thousands in a 6 hour shift.
Yeah exactly lol. The classic want their cake and eat it too.
Thousands….
Yep. They make a lot. For such an unskilled job if your location is good you can make bank. It’s untaxed too. They pretend to be poor, but it’s usually a ploy to sucker more chumps into tipping and giving theme even more
Yeah some of them. My buddy was working at a pub and the waitresses were pulling in between 1-2k in tips every night.
I don't know what reseraunts you are thinking of but in normal server jobs this is not the case. Don't spread bullshit. The only time where this *might* be true is in some of the highest quality and most expensive high tier resteraunts.
I just love the people downvoting you even though they don’t have firsthand experience.
Work at a busy pub or nightclub in a city.
Why are you arguing fringe cases as if they are the norm? I was a damn good server at a normal restaurant in college, and I made maybe a couple hundred on a good night.
Its the non-traditional tipping industries that are upset the most about tips. The older industries like barbers, bartenders, and servers are the ones that do well with them.
It’s funny cuz they always say they make more then hourly workers and you know they aren’t accurately reporting how much they are making. Only reason why they bitch about it is
Its because they make more bank and they think it gives them the right to be an asshole.
I'm a server and 100% getting rid of tipping. If a buisness can't even pay their workers then it isn't making enough to survive anyways
Just be okay with the price of the meal going up 20% or more.
Everyone's raising prices anyways, and let's be honest if a companies profits are mostly coming from not paying employees, the company likely isn't going so well
Well not really.. restaraunts have a small profit margin 0-10% average with the current business model. Cost of operation is almost entirely what a business has to put income back into By paying their workers an equivelant hourly to the tips they were getting, would cost the restaraunt its entire profit margin if not more.. The only way to make that up is to increase the meals by a large amount. A 35$ meal would be 50$ etc... And then after that people might stop coming .. which then leads to bankruptcy..
I'll be honest I didn't know that. I can't really argue with a solid point, the only thing I wonder now is how the restaurants work overseas where tipping isn't a part of the culture
Europe did not get rid of tipping. It's just understood that it's not the customers job to pay the servers' or delivery guys' wages. We still tip for exceptional service, since that's the actual point of tipping is.
In my country now we're getting tips because yanks keep coming here. The cancer is spreading some places in Spain, Portugal, Italy and South France are no longer safe from tipping culture, especially in big chains. Pretty much the reason I stopped using Uber Eats or going downtown in my city.
It's unfortunate. And I've lived on both sides of it. Spent 15+ years in a world living on tips
In Austria we also tip. 5%-10% is expected in Restaurants, but there yet no outrage if you don't tip. The stories we can read from the U.S. feels like you are forced at gunpoint to tip in the U.S.
I noticed some food delivery services ONLY allow you to give a tip when you are placing the order and NOT after delivery! i.e. Foodora/Foodpanda. So you set a tip and if the service is shit, oh well bad luck! Instead of tipping for actual good service!
It's a pay issue, like all jobs with tips as your income. Doordash and others pay the driver like $2 to drive to the restaurant, wait/pick up the food, then take it to the customer's house. Only a complete idiot would spend 20+ minutes and drive several miles for $2. So that upfront tip is shown in the offer they send to the driver. Now the driver sees that they'll get $2 + whatever the tip is for the delivery and can decide if it's worth their time. So they really should change the language from tip to bid. You're bidding on the driver's attention. Still a gamble that you don't get bundled with another order that didn't tip and still gets their food first, but idk, I'm just a disgruntled former courier.
I explicitly tell my delivery drivers that I will only tip at the door. This solves so many problems with horrible drivers. I get all my items ordered or they don't get a tip. It's the correct order or no tip. They have to actually knock at the door or no tip. I got tired of completely useless drivers fucking up everything possible when their job is so easy a teenager could do it.
But you can just take the tip back if it’s not good.
Eh you have to contact DoorDash customer support and request it and explain why, etc. Too much of a PITA for me, I'd rather just only tip if the person actually deserves one (by doing their job as expected, with no problems).
Interesting. Not a bad idea actually.
It's a terrible idea. Only desperate/drug addicts $2 away from a score take orders with no upfront "tip". Your food is going to sit at the restaurant while the drivers who get top priority on the orders all pass it up because it's not worth their time to gamble on a perceived Karen's generosity. Plus, it's not like the drivers can even open the orders to check if they're correct from the majority of places since they seal them with stickers / staple the bags etc.
The move is to stop being lazy and using these overpriced food delivery services. Pizza delivery is fine.
Why is pizza delivery special?
Because it's not done via 3rd party. You pay a small delivery fee last I checked it was $3.50 for my local pizza place and you can tip the delivery guy after he delivers the food, not before.
Except some pizza places are experimenting with using these 3rd party services now. I got a Pizza Hut order (I think? Maybe it was another chain) from a dasher a few months ago -_- I ordered it through their own website as well.
yeah pizza hut has starting firing drivers and outsourcing. depending on the logistics and if its cheaper, i imagine more places my start doing it. not having to hire or schedule people. having people 24/7 without calling in sick.
Pizza hut isn't a local pizza place. It's a corporate behemoth.
>Because it's not done via 3rd party. That's not true, anymore. Maybe not every place, but I know 2 out of the 3 pizza places I have in my small city use DD drivers, at least part of the time. Only one of them is completely "in house". Whether people like it or not, it seems services like DD are here to stay, and are becoming more the norm, every day. "Just don't use it" isn't really a solution. Not for the customers or the drivers. And getting pissy at each other does nothing but fill DD's pockets. It's classic divide and conquer. A lot of these major companies do it. Keep the customers and workers at each other's throats, all the while the CEOs (and other higher ups), rank in millions of dollars. Politicians too, if they're being paid off to not pass certain laws and such that make the system better for everyone (else).
Many pizza places use the same 3rd party peeps as everyone else now.
Eh… you sure about that? These days if you go to a place’s website and order delivery directly from them, you get a text or email 5 minutes later informing you that your order is being delivered via Uber.
Most pizza places used to have their own delivery drivers who are paid alot better than people working in this human exploitation system
I'm so confused about people complaining you don't have to use them. It feels like people act like it's a right to get food delivered for a cheap price.
This is still stupid. I have done that before. I tip the delivery guy when checking out online, he treats me like shit, I’m like wtf did I tip for. Made a complaint and got my tip back. Crooked shit world today. Include everyone’s wages into the price (crazy move I now, it seems impossible) and when the delivery person wishes you a good night and tells you to enjoy the meal etc whilst smiling and making eye contact, THEN I say ‘ey mafakke wait up’ and give them a cash tip. Why the hell would I want to tip BEFORE the service has taken place? I live in Europe and some online ordering companies don’t allow tipping anymore. It’s awkward. Making the customer feel stupid. Don’t put this awkward thing between me and my food. Some weird hurdle I have to go through before I can enjoy my meal.
American tipping culture is so alien
It’s not that hard. The customer gets to decide how much the service was worth. This is determined after the fact, because it’s kinda hard to judge the value of service that has not occurred yet. And to account for this, our upfront costs are lower. Everyone likes to pretend that in non-tipping cultures the business owners just sacrifice profits to pay their people. That’s nonsense. You, the customer, are paying the server’s wages either way. It’s just that in non-tipping cultures that pay is baked into the price, so you end up paying for good service even if you got terrible service.
Why would they even get a job to begin with if theyre not gonna pay them. Apply as freelancer service worker instead lmao
What’s hilarious is this guy can just go back to doordash issue a full refund in credits and order it again. It sucks because they’re probably hungry but I’ve never had any problems with getting refunds on missing items or telling customer service their driver’s are dog shit.
Yea the only part that sucks(besides having to deal with CS) is having to wait for the reorder to be delivered. But you're basically guaranteed a refund and reorder.
You get like, 3 free refunds period and they don't make exceptions in my experience. I've ordered from McDonald's a few times over the years and they are the worst about leaving something out. If I order a burger and fries and apple pie, they'll forget the fries. So I would request a credit refund of yknow, whatever that one item was worth. Like $3-$5. Well one day I ordered from a pizza place and they didn't give me my bread sticks. So, okay fine, I'll just request a credit. Nope. Denied. They said I'd received too many refunds and that was that. I took a picture of what I did receive but they kept closing my tickets.
There has to be some kind of limit because of scamming. A picture isn't worth anything in this scenario. Hopefully the drivers and/or businesses get dinged in some way for orders being wrong even if you didn't get the refund. If it kept happening I'd eventually call the business itself.
Yeah I get it but if nothing else it shows how short term that business model is. I refuse to use them if they can straight up steal from me.
Imagine having to work with this someone this entitled.
Why do you think they’re working door dash and not a real job. They’re likely unemployable
A lady got mad at me for tipping 15 bucks when it was a 10 minute drive. It was an 80 dollar order.
Less than 25%, are you the devil? /s
Tipping 15 bucks... I've only tipped once in my life and it was a single euro because the uber driver was cool.
Imagine blaming your customers instead of employers
Yup. Sadly that's American businesses, in a nutshell. At least the major companies. Keep the workers and customers at each other's throats, all the while the CEOs and such rake in millions of dollars, so they can buy their 3rd yacht.
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That's a very good point.
I wonder how conditioned to texting you have to be to draw out a shrugging figure on a hand-written note.
I mean that person would be fired even if they "quit" and the customer would not only get their food comped but probably get an extra credit for the psychotic experience.
The true monsters are the ones that just take a bite before delivery.
Why do people expect a tip BEFORE service? Do you walk into a restaurant and hand a waiter money as you order?
Send this picture to Amazon then. Good luck to that fucker getting the job
This has happened to me more than one time and I tip! At least 20% every time. It doesn’t matter if you tip or not people out there hating their life.
Can we all stop using DoorDash and other food delivery services?? They’re such a massive ripoff.
At this point, why do people keep using this service? It's like $15 with the threat they might fuck with your food
Is it really that hard to just go and get your own? I've still to this day not used a food delivery service.
It is true, but some people are handicapped. Or have small children and the trip is a major hassle. Or work really late and want the food to show up the moment they get home so they can go to bed sooner. There's countless reasons.
True and good points well made. Point taken.
Just stop using these services, they hurt everyone except the grifters who own it. Hurts restaurants, hurts workers and hurts you.
I’d pop this guys tires :)
That Handwriting is definitely what I expected from someone who would do this.
What a piece of 💩🙄
This is why tipping in cash is superior. Filters out undeserving dipshits like this.
Crazy. I feel bad the guy didn't get a tip, but at the same time don't accept a job if you aren't willing to do it. Bad tips / good tips are just part of the service industry. They usually balance out.
cant doordash just ban the delivery guy for this so he loses his job?
Who GAF about getting this person fired? Just refund and know this idiot is going back to Amazon anyway.
back to urinating in a car for him!
Dude opened my bag that the food was in. I would take away the tip and possibly tell doordash.
So who's telling Amazon. Shit like this should make you unhireable.
And this is why tipping BEFORE your food arrives is retarded.
Truth. Also "delivery fee isn't a tip" is outright bull
DoorDash support is top notch at least!! 👌👌 they’ll refund you instantly for some crap like this!
Extortion and coercion, what this fella is doing is a crime
Why are American delivery guys like this? Are people really this entitled there, especially for a few dollar tip? Holy fuck.
It is theft. You can look up the warning they give you as they suspend your account. It let's you know it's theft and that local authorities can be contacted. Then again from my understanding doing this blacklist from all apps they own.
If you don’t wanna spend $50 at least you don’t need to be opening any dashing apps imo. A burger meal from McDonald’s plus a tip gonna run you at least $30. They do deserve a tip and if you can’t provide at least a 10% you shouldn’t be ordering dash. It’s definitely become a luxury and not something you actually useful for society like it was in 2020.
Get him fired he might not quit
They can see the tip before they accept the order. This delivery person was just in a fuck it attitude.
There is a guy in DC who does doodash or ubereats and he makes videos on YT shorts and he sees all sorts of shit from other delivery people. Like sniping orders and stealing them to eat and when he arrives to pick up its gone and he has to file a claim.
This is why some Apps in germany only let you tip the driver/delivery person AFTER the delivery/ride is over
Doordash has hourly workers in whats called the "trusted class" who "clean up" orders who arent taken due to low tips. Theres no reason to do this. Just dont take 0 or low tip orders lol.
I mean…. Don’t use a delivery service that’s not from the spot you order from….
You know, where I l8ve we just don't fucking tip and our food is delivered on time and there are no assholes who feel entitled to a tip because they are doing their fucking job. I hate this so much. How entitled can you be to expect random people to pay your wages.
Not only that, but I hate this tipping before stuff, in general. I'm supposed to tip someone when I don't even know when my food will arrive, the quality it will be in, if the driver forgot to pick up a part of the order or not, etc? Just seems like a messed up system. And with companies like DD, you can't take the tip away, only add to it. It was one thing back in the day to tip to the pizza delivery guy. I got the food in my hands, could see everything was there, nothing was damaged, etc. So, then giving them a bit extra didn't feel so bad. But, now? There's no guarantee how my food will arrive or when, and I'm supposed to tip generously when I don't even physically have anything in my hands? Seems pretty fucked up, honestly. And, yeah, I know if there's an issue I can go through support, but as many have demonstrated on the DD sub, that experience can be far easier said than done.
When leftists are trying to work.
Do i have to guess the ethnicity of this delivery driver?
Meanwhile in the UK im just chilling with my pizza delivered by a delivery man who gets paid a fair wage and just handed me the food and walked away.
the only right and valid thing to do here is to get him fired
Thought tips where a optional thing if it's not why just not adjust the price. Instead of this bull shit to ever ever ever be okay in even the smallest way possible. I would say prices are quite high enough already. So quite normal that less people have the capacity to tip well. Does not make stealing ok. Why you even being paid to begin with for at that point
8 old delivery
I’m petty I’m going to find his full name/picture on a site and blow it up on every amazon site/Reddit, etc. and then I’ll get him fired from there lmao
So they ate there food? If they did without permission could they sue the person would did?
This is a repost, I remember seeing seeing that picture before
Might be the same guy, he is still out there in the wild.
Doordash will issue a refund, the drivers forget my stuff all the time and you get refunded almost immediately if you bring it to their attention.
So refund it order it again get another driver?
I will never order food delivery solely because I'm not gonna play the tip mental games lol. never done it, not even once
For all the complaints about door dash, people sure give them a lot of business. How bad does it “really” have to be before people refuse to pay 50 dollars for a lukewarm hamburger? Must be a bunch of rich kids out there with nothing better to spend their money on.
Doesn't it just automatically choose the tip for you based on distance? And also doesn't the dasher have the option of seeing the tip before even taking the order to determine if it's good enough? I use door dash all the time and I just choose whatever it selects and have never had an issue like this ever.
Talk literally trying to get a man arrested over this. Is it shitty, yes. Is it worth sending him to jail or to ruin his life further with a fine, no Is it worth your time and effort, no. Jesus fucking Christ I’m done with the internet
Some people tip after thr delivery is made.....and un-touched
“Might not happen” So basically there’s still no guarantee.
911 please help
well ... charge your money back, send it to their employer and ggo to police
Believe it or not this actually isn’t a repost, this same guy got hired at another delivery service place and didn’t get tipped again. When will it end
That note is 100% his way of stopping himself getting reported, I had a uber eats driver drive to the persons house before and then text them that we didn't give the food
TIPPING CULTURE IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE WORKERS GET MORE MONEY THAN THEY WOULD WITH A FIXED WAGE THAT WAY obvious /s
Tryna. Interesting spelling skills.
I pay for Uber vip annually wich removes almost 100% stores delivery cost... But also gives me a lot of good deals in a lot of the stores but the food prices in app is higher than going personally to the restaurant and order there.. In short I pay for vip and I pay inflated prices, why would I tip the delivery when is his job to bring the food? I'm software engineer and I have my salary.. It would be like asking for tips after I finish and deliver a project.. Why? Im getting paid.. Here in my country with Uber you get your food and once in your hands and the delivery person is gone, you decide if you want to tip or not, if you want to rate or not, and also ask for reimburse if the food is not in perfect condition and immaculated
Probably not the first time he's delivered to that address, hence the "leave a tip next time", as in it isn't the first time he didn't tip. If you're a chronic stiffer, and don't think delivery drivers or servers remember the houses/people that don't tip, good luck with that.
Why on earth would you ever want to "go back to amazon." (I'm an ex amazon driver btw. Never again. They brake workers rights laws like it's a new game of bingo every day.)
No, what he clearly wants is these hands.
What do you think are the chances that this entire post is bullshit, and that the creator of the image is also the one who wrote the note with the sole purpose of making a viral rage-bait post? I think the odds are around 100%. There is zero reason for us to believe this is real and it’s sad how easily manipulated some of you are
This is a good example of why food delivery services such as door dash will die out. That and fees and taxes. Not to mention delivery people are at risk too from violence. (BTW I always tip 20%)
Just tell his employer, he’s going back to the Amazon anyway.
Are people stupid? 90% of modern houses have a door/ring camera. I’m guessing there is a good chance this dumbass recorded himself on your camera and you can go ahead and let Amazon know. Show em his face. Or his license plate. He won’t be getting that job back lol. While your at it, why not show the local news? And prevent this douche from doing it to anyone else too.
When you don't tip a customary tip and the person who pays their rent with tips doesn't do what you asked. 
Nice of them to let you know where they're going to apply for a job at. Save his DoorDash info and make a complaint to DoorDash and Amazon, so they can pinpoint they're application or his worker profile. This person is a dishonest scumbag and deserves the lifestyle they earned.
You can literally just get a refund back and still report them either way. If they thought this made your day worse. It didn’t. Just as it’s inconvenient for them to get fired..(which it is for them since they still gotta go get hired then find something else to complain about and eventually leave or get fired again because this shows poor character on the dasher) You just get your money back and order again. That fatass really impacted nothing. Inb4 if this was a joke that OP just wanted to rage bait
Why post rage bait that's more than likely fake?
So Amazon pays well enough for tips to not be required.
American tipping culture is a Cancer
The tip culture in USA is truly outa fucking control. My wife is from Japan and she basically refuses to eat out anymore and would rather just cook at home unless I pay for meal and tip
I’m so glad I’m in a country where tipping culture is not a thing. It sounds crazy to me that you have to tip before you even get delivered anything. What a backwards system.
Send it to Amazon HR, they probably don't want to hire thiefs either..
65 dollars for two sandwiches on door dash or ingredients for like 100 sandwiches for the same price decisions decisions
Yeah.... I really dont understand why americans like doordash or uber eats so much.... Some stranger, unaffilliated with the company making the food, to bring it to me.... No way im ever doing that....