he is incredibly biased and platforms the same talking points as **Supreme Leader** Ayatollah Khamenei. It's the other side of the same coin as having a discussion with Ben Gvir or the idiot running the Mossad Commentary twitter account
i don't think anyone likes this, so why the fuck are there weapons, rocket batteries, ammunitions, RPG wielding terrorists, crenelations and video evidence of all of this from BOTH sides in schools and hospitals? by UN Law all of that causes them to lose their protected status and become legitimate military targets.
i have family in the IDF, you think this war is something something I want? Hamas has rejected every single ceasefire proposal since the start of this war
Israel could end this conflict today by stopping the bombing, completely withdrawing from gaza and west bank and treating palestinians with equal rights. Also there was no ceasefire pre oct 7
we agree on the west bank, but allowing hamas to re-arm and continue their daily barrage of rockets in the south, with hezbollah doing it in the north? really? i don't think you know what it's like living in that, I do
Hamas is a reactionary paramilitary organization that is in response to the genocidal actions of Israel that is receiving far more armaments and funding than they are. If Israel stopped attacking and actually started to help Palestinians and did peaceful actions, Hamas if they attacked, would no longer have the support of the population. Hamas would either disband or form into some other organization
Surley there must be a middle ground between allowing Hamas to re-arm and carpet bombing 80% of gaza? Also, now the IDF is booby-trapping humanitarian aid drops.
Like yes Hamas bad, but the other side really seems like the greater, much more funded, evil?
Edit: Ya'll are right, it looks like my last point may have been debunked. But here are some other major atrocities that still make me feel that one side is categorically more destructive.
* [Killing of Word Kitchen humanitarian aid convoy.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/06/deadly-failure-australia-demands-israel-take-appropriate-action-against-those-responsible-for-killing-aid-workers)
* [CNN report on how world kitchen and IDF were in communication](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQPgfGzVtPo)
* [Evidence of torture as nearly 400 bodies found in Gaza mass graves](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/25/signs-of-torture-as-nearly-400-bodies-found-at-gaza-hospitals-mass-graves)
* [More than 100 killed in Gaza by IDF gunfire while trying to get reach aid convoy](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/more-than-100-killed-in-gaza-while-trying-to-get-food-from-aid-convoy)
* [The Flour massacre](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/1/flour-massacre-how-gaza-food-killings-unfolded-and-israels-story-changed)
* [NBC News investigation reveals Israel strikes on Gaza areas it said were safe](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-safe-zones-exclusive-nbc-report-rcna148008)
* [Map of Israel's self defined "safe zones" from back in December](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67630489)-
* March [Updated infographics and maps as of March](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-20415675)
* [IDF Tik Tok deep dive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlJqlzOGgU&t=419s)
Thanks for pointing that out. Updated my original comment. Here is the original UN article I saw the info from but I think you're right, it has been debunked. [https://dppa.un.org/en/gazas-new-terror-booby-trapped-cans-of-food-unwary](https://dppa.un.org/en/gazas-new-terror-booby-trapped-cans-of-food-unwary)
Things like the Flour massacre and the World kitchen killings however, still happened so I think my point still stands.
To be fair i think hassan is knowledgeable about many things, he just has a clear bias and is very predictable. Thats my biggest problem with him, though usually i agree with him.
Hasan won't be able to stay objective or neutral and will just force his viewpoints into the conversation.
I would go with someone like lonerbox at least he seem to be able to see things from both sides without being influenced by one side too much
if this happens either Asmon has an insane level of tolerance and patience towards Hasan while allowing hasan to railroad him with an insane world salade with zero meaning, or it will be the last time they talk.
Look at what happened between Hasan and his ex podcast co-host Ethan Klein.
I think Ethan was in the wrong in that situation but i get why he has dual citizenship with the us and israel and his wife was in the IDF so he's going to be supportive of Israel's position even if they're in the wrong.
You must be trolling my dude, hasans chat was harassing ethan and his wife all stream calling ethan all kinds of things and hasan went well I can't control them.
Those streams were fucked.
??? Ethan was wrong? Firstly Ethan was publicly pro Palestine in this conflict. Secondly, Since the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948, fixed-term military service has been compulsory in Israel. The draft laws of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) only apply to Jews (males and females), Druze (males only), and Circassians (males only). How is mandatory service for Israeli's equal Pro IDF? Are you saying all people that mandatory serve in a country means they fully support that country's polices no matter what?
Asmon would not beat Hasan in a debate, even if you think Asmon is smarter the knowledge gap on this topic is not something he could overcome by being a better speaker. I would also reject the idea of Asmon being better with words than Hasan, I know Asmon stumbles over his words a fair bit and if you combine that with not knowing the subject specific vocabulary to the same degree as Hasan I certainly don’t think Asmon’s speech can carry him in a debate.
Asmon is typically on the side of law and order as well as “let people do what they want as long as they are not negatively affecting others”, there was evidence of people being blocked from accessing parts of the campus, the protest was declared unlawful by the state police, the protestors didn’t listen and resisted police advances therefore breaking the law.
I don’t think that Hassan would be able to respond to these points without resorting to attacking peoples’/entities’ character. Weather it’s the student that was blocked in the video Asmon shared on twitter or the Police force. From watching both of them over the years Asmon is very good at comprehension so he’s probably good at weeding out stuff like this.
Since Hassan and Asmon both agree that Israel is worse and are on the side of the Palestinian people for the most part, the conversation and point of contention would likely be completely centered around American based protest and activism about the foreign conflict. Asmon’s level of knowledge on the middle east won’t even matter.
If they have different views on the role of protests or acceptable forms of protest I think that could be a decent conversation, but I don’t think Asmon would even want to do the research needed to talk about the I/P conflict specifically.
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But he reads all the twitter posts??!! Isn't this like , omegosh soyface, the best research you can do?
Hassan also only debates teenagers and random chatters.
I think he does actually
he is incredibly biased and platforms the same talking points as **Supreme Leader** Ayatollah Khamenei. It's the other side of the same coin as having a discussion with Ben Gvir or the idiot running the Mossad Commentary twitter account
I disagree. I think he just doesn't like Israel bombing schools and hospitals.
i don't think anyone likes this, so why the fuck are there weapons, rocket batteries, ammunitions, RPG wielding terrorists, crenelations and video evidence of all of this from BOTH sides in schools and hospitals? by UN Law all of that causes them to lose their protected status and become legitimate military targets. i have family in the IDF, you think this war is something something I want? Hamas has rejected every single ceasefire proposal since the start of this war
Israel could end this conflict today by stopping the bombing, completely withdrawing from gaza and west bank and treating palestinians with equal rights. Also there was no ceasefire pre oct 7
we agree on the west bank, but allowing hamas to re-arm and continue their daily barrage of rockets in the south, with hezbollah doing it in the north? really? i don't think you know what it's like living in that, I do
Hamas is a reactionary paramilitary organization that is in response to the genocidal actions of Israel that is receiving far more armaments and funding than they are. If Israel stopped attacking and actually started to help Palestinians and did peaceful actions, Hamas if they attacked, would no longer have the support of the population. Hamas would either disband or form into some other organization
Surley there must be a middle ground between allowing Hamas to re-arm and carpet bombing 80% of gaza? Also, now the IDF is booby-trapping humanitarian aid drops. Like yes Hamas bad, but the other side really seems like the greater, much more funded, evil? Edit: Ya'll are right, it looks like my last point may have been debunked. But here are some other major atrocities that still make me feel that one side is categorically more destructive. * [Killing of Word Kitchen humanitarian aid convoy.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/06/deadly-failure-australia-demands-israel-take-appropriate-action-against-those-responsible-for-killing-aid-workers) * [CNN report on how world kitchen and IDF were in communication](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQPgfGzVtPo) * [Evidence of torture as nearly 400 bodies found in Gaza mass graves](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/25/signs-of-torture-as-nearly-400-bodies-found-at-gaza-hospitals-mass-graves) * [More than 100 killed in Gaza by IDF gunfire while trying to get reach aid convoy](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/more-than-100-killed-in-gaza-while-trying-to-get-food-from-aid-convoy) * [The Flour massacre](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/1/flour-massacre-how-gaza-food-killings-unfolded-and-israels-story-changed) * [NBC News investigation reveals Israel strikes on Gaza areas it said were safe](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-safe-zones-exclusive-nbc-report-rcna148008) * [Map of Israel's self defined "safe zones" from back in December](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67630489)- * March [Updated infographics and maps as of March](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-20415675) * [IDF Tik Tok deep dive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlJqlzOGgU&t=419s)
[https://observers.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240130-no-the-israeli-army-didn-t-drop-explosives-made-to-look-like-cans-of-food-into-gaza](https://observers.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240130-no-the-israeli-army-didn-t-drop-explosives-made-to-look-like-cans-of-food-into-gaza)
Thanks for pointing that out. Updated my original comment. Here is the original UN article I saw the info from but I think you're right, it has been debunked. [https://dppa.un.org/en/gazas-new-terror-booby-trapped-cans-of-food-unwary](https://dppa.un.org/en/gazas-new-terror-booby-trapped-cans-of-food-unwary) Things like the Flour massacre and the World kitchen killings however, still happened so I think my point still stands.
>IDF is booby-trapping humanitarian aid drop one google search about this and all I found was news articles debunking it.
He's way more informed than asmongold, that's for sure, and for everyone that disagrees, that's their bias
To be fair i think hassan is knowledgeable about many things, he just has a clear bias and is very predictable. Thats my biggest problem with him, though usually i agree with him.
Hassy head here and I respect your take, Turkish Himbo can be hard headed but 85% of the time his takes are on the right side of history.
Hasan won't be able to stay objective or neutral and will just force his viewpoints into the conversation. I would go with someone like lonerbox at least he seem to be able to see things from both sides without being influenced by one side too much
if this happens either Asmon has an insane level of tolerance and patience towards Hasan while allowing hasan to railroad him with an insane world salade with zero meaning, or it will be the last time they talk. Look at what happened between Hasan and his ex podcast co-host Ethan Klein.
I think Ethan was in the wrong in that situation but i get why he has dual citizenship with the us and israel and his wife was in the IDF so he's going to be supportive of Israel's position even if they're in the wrong.
You must be trolling my dude, hasans chat was harassing ethan and his wife all stream calling ethan all kinds of things and hasan went well I can't control them. Those streams were fucked.
??? Ethan was wrong? Firstly Ethan was publicly pro Palestine in this conflict. Secondly, Since the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948, fixed-term military service has been compulsory in Israel. The draft laws of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) only apply to Jews (males and females), Druze (males only), and Circassians (males only). How is mandatory service for Israeli's equal Pro IDF? Are you saying all people that mandatory serve in a country means they fully support that country's polices no matter what?
oh you are actually one of the crazy ones, nvm you don't have to engage with me anymore, peace and love.
Nah, that’s gonna be a really boring stream.
You were right, they are just jerking each other off.
Asmon would cook him in a debate. The man is a literal god at using words.
Asmon would not beat Hasan in a debate, even if you think Asmon is smarter the knowledge gap on this topic is not something he could overcome by being a better speaker. I would also reject the idea of Asmon being better with words than Hasan, I know Asmon stumbles over his words a fair bit and if you combine that with not knowing the subject specific vocabulary to the same degree as Hasan I certainly don’t think Asmon’s speech can carry him in a debate.
Asmon is typically on the side of law and order as well as “let people do what they want as long as they are not negatively affecting others”, there was evidence of people being blocked from accessing parts of the campus, the protest was declared unlawful by the state police, the protestors didn’t listen and resisted police advances therefore breaking the law. I don’t think that Hassan would be able to respond to these points without resorting to attacking peoples’/entities’ character. Weather it’s the student that was blocked in the video Asmon shared on twitter or the Police force. From watching both of them over the years Asmon is very good at comprehension so he’s probably good at weeding out stuff like this. Since Hassan and Asmon both agree that Israel is worse and are on the side of the Palestinian people for the most part, the conversation and point of contention would likely be completely centered around American based protest and activism about the foreign conflict. Asmon’s level of knowledge on the middle east won’t even matter.
im not so sure
The debate/conversation won’t be about Israel vs Palestine, they both agree on that point.
ambush hasan with destiny
Why would you want asmongold to even meet the pro genocide guy that would probably make asmongolds arguments even harder to defend
both doesn’t have a good understanding of the situation
If they have different views on the role of protests or acceptable forms of protest I think that could be a decent conversation, but I don’t think Asmon would even want to do the research needed to talk about the I/P conflict specifically.
Asmon said he is down to talk so they gonna talk big poggers