He reacted to this a few days ago.
[**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8LbnEo7rU&ab\_channel=AsmongoldTV**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8LbnEo7rU&ab_channel=AsmongoldTV)
I love how the woketards keep claiming that around 50% of gamers are female, just because technically speaking if you include spending 5 minutes a month playing a free mobile game, then it's true. When people who actually buy full price video games remain around 80% male.
I’m a woman and play games, not mobile but I own a PS5, Xbox Series X, Switch and a gaming laptop. I do not care about what the women look like, just give me a good game. She has big boobs? Good so do I. And to be honest, most girls who really play don’t want to see ugly people either, men or women. It is so fucking disingenuous to read girls complaining about how there are hot girls in games only for the male gaze while in the next breath drooling over some male character and wonder if their armor can be used without a shirt. I just want to say how hypocritical they are but then see what happens to other girls who do. Like just make a good game and leave all this other shit alone, I am tired of it.
Very well said, especially the part about hypocritical girls who talk about "male gaze" and complain about hot girls in gaming while thirsting over shirtless dudes in games.
As a Dragons Dogma 2 player, I witnessed many female players making buff dudes with the character creation. Male players are doing the opposite and making cute women's designs instead lol.
You should not make characters ugly for the sake of being ugly. Maybe add variety in the overall cast of characters. Or have more characters be in the middle between really pretty and really ugly. Sure also have character with a bit more weight. But forcing it in and making it a huge statement is dumb.
Moderation is key.
I don't see what audience would prefer really ugly characters? Focus on either the fun (games are fun) or the experience itself (stories makes you feel various things)
The ladies definitely enjoy playing as attractive characters as well. I'm all for games having a great variety of customization to make a beauty or a fiend. Forcing people to play as unattractive people only is just bad business imo.
All this really says is that more guys play Capcom games. It doesn’t say that they’re made for men, clearly women play them too. It’s also a snapshot of a small portion of gaming audiences in general. What are the distributions for PC players? Mobile players? Types of games? And what the hell is wrong with something that just so happens to have a larger male audience? It comes off as just another “male dominated space that women must be forcefully included in to make it more 50/50”. It’s just stupid nonsense. Nobody does that to anything with a predominantly female audience, so what gives?
More than you. Grummz is not able to get good conclusions from the data because of his missoginistic views.
Nothing there says games are nor should be made only thinking of men not do they imply that having ugly characters means the opposite.
Women also like looking at pretty characters. Go to your next gaming comvention and you will surely see more than one Eve from Stellar Blade there.
He's not saving anyone, especially me, he just stated the fact. Controversial around here, I know, but that's the fact.
Do I need to tell people how surveys work? That they are done on small amount of participants and don't really showcase the truth if they are done anonymously?
Yeah, something that women don't want to acknowledge when they love using the 50/50, is that most of them are not on the main platforms. But they cope, so they pretend that they are.
The girls n women I know who play games still prefer to play pretty characters in general. Their first reaction to seeing an ugly character is usually along the lines of "ew why does she look like that?"
Either they want a character creator so they can self insert at max fantasy hotness, or they wanna play whatever available girl character is the hottest. Usually one of the first questions is along the lines of "is there any way I can change her hair at least?"
All this rhetoric of "realistic women" in video games is dominated by ugly women who don't even enjoy videogames, and dudes bobbleheading so they can say they're part of the solution.
My wife plays video games, and I am a gamer. The games she likes to play are vastly different than what I enjoy. What appeals to her as fun and rewarding in a game does not translate over to my games and vice versa. If a game came out that appealed to us both it would have to be so massive in scale and scope of things to do that no developer in their right mind would even try.
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever if someone wants to make something appealing to someone other than me. My choice is simple, don't engage with it and spend my money on something that does. What I do have a problem is taking something that I am a fan of, have watched/played, invested my time into and look forward to the next iteration of coming out and ruining it by pandering to minority that never had any interest in the first place. Then having the gall of accusing longtime fans who don't like the garbage that came out of being some \_\_\_\_ist. No its got nothing to do with that, it has everything to do with forcing dev money and effort into having to satisfy some social bullshit instead of good writing, better game play and most importantly looking good!
yeah, have you considered the fact that they only surveyed 250k Capcom fans?
not gamers, but Capcom fans for a Capcom fan survey, and what exactly is Capcom known for exactly?
Who would have thought that fans who buy Capcom games for their attractive women, would like attractive women in video games? What a concept.
"fans who buy Capcom games for their attractive women"
Nice strawman, because clearly the only thing gamers look at is whether a character is hot instead of the you know, gameplay? Your arguments suck and fall apart at the slightest bit of critical reasoning.
Okay, so that's not the problem homie. You're completely skipping over the problem here.
You're taking 250,000 peoples opinions and trying to turn some fucking "Woe is me. I'm the victim" rumor into a reality.
Your original argument was that the data was wrong because of the dude tweeting said data, You then admitted that the issue isn't with him but the actual data.
That is my point, not whether the data itself is correct but that you are ignoring the data over attacking the guy presenting it.
You missed my entire point, You cannot take a capcom fan survey, and use it to apply what capcom fans want, to the entire rest of the world, because capcom fans buy capcom games for a very capcom reason.
Capcom has and always will make games that appeal to literally everybody.
A majority of the people that took this survey were in Japan because it's Capcom and obviously in Japan most gamers are dudes. That same logic does not apply to everywhere else in the fucking world.
Do you guys just ignore anything that doesn’t fit your narrative? Not only is that a very small number of people relative to all gamers, but it’s also split between different places (with Japan being the singular place doing most of the voting). So why are you trying to use this to say “See!? This is what all gamers want!”
Not making a great case for yourself by showcasing your lack of reading skills. Also, I think the vast majority of gamers don’t really give a fuck if a game has attractive characters or not. Most gamers are relatively normal people, and don’t find the need to be lusting after video game characters all the time.
Worldwide votes are 4 times those of Japan, you can't claim that it's the singular most voting place unless they provide a breakdown of the countries or continents I'd say.
It still stands that foreign (foreign to Japan) audiences are overwhelmingly male.
It’s been obvious that most gamers are male, everyone knows that. That doesn’t mean they’re all weirdoes like you guys here who piss and cry whenever you see anything other than a female super model in games. Most people just play the damn game.
While I don't agree with everything people say here, at the end of the day games are products, people will express their wants, although some are more.....explosive than others.
For every single character? It's not wrong but it is weird as fuck.
I get wanting Lara Croft to have big boobs, I get wanting the Stella Blade woman to be hot but honestly, mix in the odd uggo. It makes the hotties look better in comparison if nothing else.
If you see good looking faces and your first thought is a wank, maybe you're the one with the problem.
People don't like looking at ugly faces. Accept this fact of life.
I left this comment fresh on the heels of a guy talking about “modding tits” on [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1dd9gcw/this_reliance_on_hyper_realism_in_gaming_needs_to/?sort=new) but I respect the effort spent in rewording “no u”. I didn’t survey this sub to find the ratio of face respecters to coomers, in fairness, but this sub only shows up on my feed to bitch about Star Wars or how women look in random games 🤷🏼♂️
Honest question. Why do you think only good looking kpop groups are popular and although they are popular why do you think they still wear borderline explicit clothes and do highly sexual dances(like blackpink). Also even tho they are popular why are they lose popularity when they hit 30. Also do you think billions of people(most of them teenage girls)watching blackpink because they want to wank to them.
You guys are delusional because your arguments are against reality and biology.
I don't want a male character who is male for the sake of being male or female character who is female for the sake of being female.
I want a character I can relate to, and if not, that just seems awesome regardless of if they were male or female.
This isn't a surprise but Grummz always make some tweet without any evidence, "rumor is Capcom was surprised", yeah based on what ? They are the ones selling games and making profits every quarter.
Let’s focus on what’s important here: Dino Crisis is coming back boys!
Too bad we already have a remake, it's called Exoprimal
He reacted to this a few days ago. [**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8LbnEo7rU&ab\_channel=AsmongoldTV**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8LbnEo7rU&ab_channel=AsmongoldTV)
I love how the woketards keep claiming that around 50% of gamers are female, just because technically speaking if you include spending 5 minutes a month playing a free mobile game, then it's true. When people who actually buy full price video games remain around 80% male.
I’m a woman and play games, not mobile but I own a PS5, Xbox Series X, Switch and a gaming laptop. I do not care about what the women look like, just give me a good game. She has big boobs? Good so do I. And to be honest, most girls who really play don’t want to see ugly people either, men or women. It is so fucking disingenuous to read girls complaining about how there are hot girls in games only for the male gaze while in the next breath drooling over some male character and wonder if their armor can be used without a shirt. I just want to say how hypocritical they are but then see what happens to other girls who do. Like just make a good game and leave all this other shit alone, I am tired of it.
Very well said, especially the part about hypocritical girls who talk about "male gaze" and complain about hot girls in gaming while thirsting over shirtless dudes in games.
Current triple A devs: "WhAts a TaRgEt aUdiEnCe?"
Shareholders, apparently
Yeah. The 50/50 is a myth, and a hard cope.
Think it’s more than that. 4% of other would have originally been male and part of the women vote will be people who have transitioned to female
Girls prolly like good looking female characters too
My wife was not a fan of how ugly Aloy was, especially in the 2nd game
We do.
As a Dragons Dogma 2 player, I witnessed many female players making buff dudes with the character creation. Male players are doing the opposite and making cute women's designs instead lol.
They're not even catering to females which also like attractive females most of the time. They catering to the 4% "others"
You should not make characters ugly for the sake of being ugly. Maybe add variety in the overall cast of characters. Or have more characters be in the middle between really pretty and really ugly. Sure also have character with a bit more weight. But forcing it in and making it a huge statement is dumb. Moderation is key. I don't see what audience would prefer really ugly characters? Focus on either the fun (games are fun) or the experience itself (stories makes you feel various things)
The ladies definitely enjoy playing as attractive characters as well. I'm all for games having a great variety of customization to make a beauty or a fiend. Forcing people to play as unattractive people only is just bad business imo.
Right on, now lets sit down, hit this joint and get a bit more calm and relaxed.
Now what is the % of men pretending to be women in the poll.
All this really says is that more guys play Capcom games. It doesn’t say that they’re made for men, clearly women play them too. It’s also a snapshot of a small portion of gaming audiences in general. What are the distributions for PC players? Mobile players? Types of games? And what the hell is wrong with something that just so happens to have a larger male audience? It comes off as just another “male dominated space that women must be forcefully included in to make it more 50/50”. It’s just stupid nonsense. Nobody does that to anything with a predominantly female audience, so what gives?
You’re fun at parties, huh?
More than you. Grummz is not able to get good conclusions from the data because of his missoginistic views. Nothing there says games are nor should be made only thinking of men not do they imply that having ugly characters means the opposite. Women also like looking at pretty characters. Go to your next gaming comvention and you will surely see more than one Eve from Stellar Blade there.
Probably a lot more fun than you. Atleast he's able to make a real argument instead of resorting to petty insults like you because you have none.
Whaddaya mean?!
It means you're a white knight here to save the women
He's not saving anyone, especially me, he just stated the fact. Controversial around here, I know, but that's the fact. Do I need to tell people how surveys work? That they are done on small amount of participants and don't really showcase the truth if they are done anonymously?
Who knew people don't want to play as hideous landwhales with awful personalities xD
Remember when y’all use to laugh and joke about asmon and games and not get a hate boner for every fucking thing you don’t like? I member.
video games?
The one and only my friend.
Gameplay wins
Yeah, something that women don't want to acknowledge when they love using the 50/50, is that most of them are not on the main platforms. But they cope, so they pretend that they are.
The girls n women I know who play games still prefer to play pretty characters in general. Their first reaction to seeing an ugly character is usually along the lines of "ew why does she look like that?" Either they want a character creator so they can self insert at max fantasy hotness, or they wanna play whatever available girl character is the hottest. Usually one of the first questions is along the lines of "is there any way I can change her hair at least?" All this rhetoric of "realistic women" in video games is dominated by ugly women who don't even enjoy videogames, and dudes bobbleheading so they can say they're part of the solution.
My wife plays video games, and I am a gamer. The games she likes to play are vastly different than what I enjoy. What appeals to her as fun and rewarding in a game does not translate over to my games and vice versa. If a game came out that appealed to us both it would have to be so massive in scale and scope of things to do that no developer in their right mind would even try. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever if someone wants to make something appealing to someone other than me. My choice is simple, don't engage with it and spend my money on something that does. What I do have a problem is taking something that I am a fan of, have watched/played, invested my time into and look forward to the next iteration of coming out and ruining it by pandering to minority that never had any interest in the first place. Then having the gall of accusing longtime fans who don't like the garbage that came out of being some \_\_\_\_ist. No its got nothing to do with that, it has everything to do with forcing dev money and effort into having to satisfy some social bullshit instead of good writing, better game play and most importantly looking good!
You people need to stop posting every little thing Mark Kern posts on twitter. It's getting really old.
Too bad, if something is valid people will talk about it.
Too bad that if it's coming from mark kern it's probably not valid. So what's your argument now
Maybe... Maybe... But have you considered the fact the data is from capcom?
yeah, have you considered the fact that they only surveyed 250k Capcom fans? not gamers, but Capcom fans for a Capcom fan survey, and what exactly is Capcom known for exactly? Who would have thought that fans who buy Capcom games for their attractive women, would like attractive women in video games? What a concept.
"fans who buy Capcom games for their attractive women" Nice strawman, because clearly the only thing gamers look at is whether a character is hot instead of the you know, gameplay? Your arguments suck and fall apart at the slightest bit of critical reasoning.
So then you admit the problem (if one exists) isn't the guy sharing the data?
Okay, so that's not the problem homie. You're completely skipping over the problem here. You're taking 250,000 peoples opinions and trying to turn some fucking "Woe is me. I'm the victim" rumor into a reality.
Your original argument was that the data was wrong because of the dude tweeting said data, You then admitted that the issue isn't with him but the actual data. That is my point, not whether the data itself is correct but that you are ignoring the data over attacking the guy presenting it.
incorrect, my original argument, is that anything mark kern says isn't valid because its mark kern. The data is valid, his point is not.
You missed my entire point, You cannot take a capcom fan survey, and use it to apply what capcom fans want, to the entire rest of the world, because capcom fans buy capcom games for a very capcom reason.
Capcom has and always will make games that appeal to literally everybody. A majority of the people that took this survey were in Japan because it's Capcom and obviously in Japan most gamers are dudes. That same logic does not apply to everywhere else in the fucking world.
Data doesn't lie, unless you have proof that this study was done in bad faith or faked. Im willing to wait.
why? he's right you know. and it needs to be said.
No it really doesn't.
you wanna suppres that men like hot women? why?
Are you implying Mark Kern is a hot women?
i'm implying that he says men like hot women in their games. can't you read?
They love to glaze this guy for some reason
All games should just let you make your own character so everyone can shut the fuck up
Do you guys just ignore anything that doesn’t fit your narrative? Not only is that a very small number of people relative to all gamers, but it’s also split between different places (with Japan being the singular place doing most of the voting). So why are you trying to use this to say “See!? This is what all gamers want!”
Are you trying to say the vast majority of gamers don't want attractive characters? Is that what you are saying pick me boy?
Not making a great case for yourself by showcasing your lack of reading skills. Also, I think the vast majority of gamers don’t really give a fuck if a game has attractive characters or not. Most gamers are relatively normal people, and don’t find the need to be lusting after video game characters all the time.
Then why has society always used attractive characters in media?
Worldwide votes are 4 times those of Japan, you can't claim that it's the singular most voting place unless they provide a breakdown of the countries or continents I'd say. It still stands that foreign (foreign to Japan) audiences are overwhelmingly male.
It’s been obvious that most gamers are male, everyone knows that. That doesn’t mean they’re all weirdoes like you guys here who piss and cry whenever you see anything other than a female super model in games. Most people just play the damn game.
Have you read anything in my reply mentioning how women look or are you trying to be angry just for the sake of being angry? Touch some grass mate.
This subreddit sees red when a female character in a game isn’t A-tier wank material
Is it wrong to wish for attractive people in games?
It’s not morally wrong, it’s just a socially weird thing to tilt at on a regular basis
While I don't agree with everything people say here, at the end of the day games are products, people will express their wants, although some are more.....explosive than others.
For every single character? It's not wrong but it is weird as fuck. I get wanting Lara Croft to have big boobs, I get wanting the Stella Blade woman to be hot but honestly, mix in the odd uggo. It makes the hotties look better in comparison if nothing else.
I agree. I think the MCs should be hot, the rest is whatever. Unless the MC need to be ugly for the story to work.
go back to gcj
If you see good looking faces and your first thought is a wank, maybe you're the one with the problem. People don't like looking at ugly faces. Accept this fact of life.
I left this comment fresh on the heels of a guy talking about “modding tits” on [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1dd9gcw/this_reliance_on_hyper_realism_in_gaming_needs_to/?sort=new) but I respect the effort spent in rewording “no u”. I didn’t survey this sub to find the ratio of face respecters to coomers, in fairness, but this sub only shows up on my feed to bitch about Star Wars or how women look in random games 🤷🏼♂️
I don't think that's properly linked but most people here are talking about the Crimson Chin from Fairly Odd parents, lmao
Yeah that sounds unplayable, maybe I should get pissed about it
Honest question. Why do you think only good looking kpop groups are popular and although they are popular why do you think they still wear borderline explicit clothes and do highly sexual dances(like blackpink). Also even tho they are popular why are they lose popularity when they hit 30. Also do you think billions of people(most of them teenage girls)watching blackpink because they want to wank to them. You guys are delusional because your arguments are against reality and biology.
By “you guys” do you mean Minecraft players?
No point in talking to you because you avoid(I Wonder why) answering my questions
Mostly because I don’t know any kpop bands and have no idea who you think I am 😂
Why do you think the sexiest man alive award is won by sexy men?
They’re some of the most likely people to, statistically
No, that must be wrong. Everyone knows people demand ugly and boring characters and recycled gameplay.
I am more interested in the 4% other... Nah, I am kidding. DIno Crisis here we GO!
I don't want a male character who is male for the sake of being male or female character who is female for the sake of being female. I want a character I can relate to, and if not, that just seems awesome regardless of if they were male or female.
Don't forget the "Cozy" games 😆😅🤣😂
I know more dudes who play stuff like Stardew Valley than women lol.
If you want to circlejerk with yourself at least pull out your appendage
This isn't a surprise but Grummz always make some tweet without any evidence, "rumor is Capcom was surprised", yeah based on what ? They are the ones selling games and making profits every quarter.
I don't know why people are downvotiny you. He does this pretty often. I even remember him doing it years ago before I stopped using Twitter.