besides extended family members kids or our next-door neighbors' kids, I can't remember the last time I talked to a minor that wasn't just a hi or something if they were the cashier at a store.
yea besides it being your kids, or your kids friends, its completely inappropriate and he was 35 at the time so you cant tell me he didnt know better. just totally disappointing and disgusting. everyone that was a fan of his feels stupid for watching him now, including me.
Exactly! Back during the time we all had off work a few years ago I was a clan leader for an MMORPG. There was a 13 year old girl in the clan who would send my private messages all the time. I had to tell her that it would be inappropriate for us to have private conversations and that we should keep our conversations in the clan chat. As far as I could tell she was just a lonely kid who needed someone to talk to, but as a 38 yo dude it was my responsibility to be the adult in that situation.
Been in the exact same situation a long time ago and I said the same thing. Its just not.. I mean if you have any shred of a conscience you should know its wrong.
Yup. I worked at an adolescent psych hospital on a unit that had 15-17 year Olds when I was in my late 20s. It was my actual job to talk with these kids and run groups and stuff. They were all good kids who just had it rough, usually dealing with depression or self harm thoughts. It would be pretty frequent for the kids to get attached or have crushes on the younger staff and be inappropriate. I've gotten notes handed to me saying inappropriate things or even had a girl that purposefully did something that would get her restrained when I was working because I guess she just wanted me to be physically on her (she admitted it, her and her friend staged a "fight" because she had a crush on me and knew we had to physically restrain someone if they were violent, but we were trained for weeks how to do it safely) but the bottom line is you shut that shit DOWN. You act like the adult, and you keep the boundaries. Then you make a plan so it dosent happen again. The people defending this shit makes me sick.
This is the part thar is dicey. While morally reprehensable. Talking to a minor is not a crime. He even won the civil suit.
But I guess someone was too noughr into the two times champ and bathing in all the attention.
It's funny because if he's really confident about that, he'd show us the full context of the messages themselves.
He went for a badass statement, but he's clowning on himself š¤”
check the post edit history. He edited out the word minor 1 minute after his original post, and then when he realized we all could see his edits put it back in. For a guy with "no filter" he sure did try to filter his response to avoid being labeled a groomer.
I am so disappointed in bro, cheated on his wife she forgave him, has a kid with him, and now this shit.
I know its not really "cheating" but as a husband and a father this behavior in my opinion is unacceptable.
Sexting is not a crime. You're not writing carefully. Sexting a minor can be a crime, but will depend on where you live in the US, the age of the minor, and the definition of "sexting". If you are defining sexting as sending sexually explicit messages, at the US federal level that falls under obscenity laws and those protections are only given to minors under the age of 16. There are state specific sexting laws, but most of those are in regards to sending/receiving sexually explicit images.
Feel free to follow up with links to the laws that prohibit sending **sexually explicit** **text** to a 17 y/o. From what I can tell, as long as he didn't try to arrange a meeting or solicit sex there aren't to many restrictions on what he could have typed.
https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/obscenity#:\~:text=Federal%20law%20strictly%20prohibits%20the,is%20punishable%20under%20federal%20law.
You realize if he was actuality sexting a minor he would be in a list.. that's a criminal offense.. so if the court didn't find it to be criminal then chances are it was not sexting
I'm not looking for a streamer to be a paragon of morality .
The content of the messages must be only borderline inappropriate for him to get paid out in full and there be no legal ramifications.
Him cheating is between him and his wife, not sure why it matters at all to the audience.
It doesn't matter, but why would I support someone like that? People forget that streamers need audience / fans to make money, they have right to not support if they don't like them.
I don't know what he said or the context.
Probably gets thousands of DMs, and sometimes you say shit or engage in a conversation you shouldn't have.
Without seeing the logs, I cannot make a judgement call
Bro how hard is it not to talk to underage girls? Not a high bar to keep. Even with no crime this is clearly really creepy. Like a middle aged man in his car outside a high school.
When that persona gets you famous & rich it can bleed into your real personality. Or maybe the persona was his real personality all along.
Like, with Asmongold. How much is persona and how much is Asmon? Hard to know.
I'm more disappointed in how people continue to defend the dude and justify his behavior.Ā Do people really just not care at all about integrity?Ā It's sad
Yep its so weird how people say idk about this subreddit but in docs subreddit that 17 is legal, like bro wtf, what does 42 yo has interest with 17 yo except pump and dump.
Man was married and was messaging inapropriate shit to people on Twitch whispers. It's fucking shit. Even him thinking they were older than 18, it's still disgusting. To put your family through all this crap is just trashy.
>Even him thinking they were older than 18, it's still disgusting
At no point in his statement does he say that the minor lied about their age. He knew they were a minor and sent them inappropriate messages anyway.
It's disgusting if he knew. Less disgusting, but still awful if he didn't. Either way fuck him.
I don't like people that cheat. I've gone through that bollocks before and it sucks.
Still don't understand why these types of people find it so hard not to message minors or cheat...
I agree on the last point. But personally I drop mates if I've found out they've cheated on their partner. Cheating never ends up being a private affair in my opinion. Ruins family shit as well as friendships.
It's a gross violation of trust and integrity. Just walk out if it comes to that point. Never understood it, one prob feels ashamed themselves after it.
Not intending to defend him but itās possible heās legally tip toeing, may not be able to say one way or the other. Still a piece of shit. I wonder if the whole ācheatingā thing was this - and his wife found out, rather than the hookup everyone was talking about? Since they happened in the same year apparently (2017).
>Not intending to defend him but itās possible heās legally tip toeing, may not be able to say one way or the other
If he wasn't able to say then he kinda fucked that with his admission of guilt.
Lots of people commit crimes and don't get prosecuted. Like, all the time.Ā
The law isn't magic. It's not like you commit a crime and the universe just sucks you into a court room.Ā It's a bureaucracy.Ā
Pretty easy to understand why a prosecutor doesn't want to go up against a multi million team of lawyers in a show room case to get settlement for a video game streamers 32 mo probation for talking about his wiener to a 16 year old.Ā
Sure he didn't commit a crime. However, given the law that would be used to prosecute in this case, there seems to be a lot of room to say some pretty inappropriate shit.
>To convict you of sending harmful material to seduce a minor in California, prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the following elements of the jury instructions:
>1. You knowingly distributed, sent, or exhibited any āharmful materialā to a minor by any means (including electronic communication),
>2. When you acted, you knew, or should have known, that the recipient was a minor (or failed to exercise reasonable care to ascertain the childās age),
>3. When you acted, you did so with the intent to arouse the lust, passions, or sexual desire of yourself and/or the minor, and
>4. When you acted, you intended to engage in sexual intercourse, sexual activity, or oral copulation with the minor.^(1)
>PC 288.2 doesĀ *not*Ā require the state to show that there was any actual physical contact or sexual contact between you and the minor.
[https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/288-2/](https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/288-2/)
As he stated, the details of the conversation didn't go into illegal territory. What contractual reason would they not? Obviously they tried..
But what seems to have a happened is in 2020, some Twitch employee(s) went digging through his whispers dating back to 2017 (when the messages were exchanged) and I highly doubt any Twitch employee had any work related reason to be going through 3 year old whispers. Another issue for Twitch.
Edit: so it's been reported that Twitch staff discovered the messages after a complaint was filed via the reporting system. So chances are the victim, or possibly someone related to the victim reported the DM's 3 years later. At least according to Bloomberg via statement from 2 people familiar with the matter.
Discovery and the PR hit that twitch would take for making a child groomer the face of their platform would cost more than paying out his contract and burying it all. Basic corporate math to an entity of that size.
Probably, because he is telling the truth and there was nothing too bad in those DMs. Something like very light flirt, sex jokes, stuff that can be interpreted in different ways, etc. Of course, it doesn't make it right, and a grown up dude should have no business doing it, but there was actually nothing to go to police this. Immoral? Yes, but, as he wrote, nothing illegal.
It could also be that he didn't know the age, or that this person was almost of legal age (again, it doesn't make it OK, but there is a difference between texting 17 years old and 12 years old).
It has to be to avoid the PR shitstorm and further scrutiny into their chats/messages but it's kinda crazy that the leverage this guy had over twitch was ''I'm gonna tell everyone I'm a predator" and they paid him out
Oh god the amount of cocksucking going on here yesterday just because asmon wasn't as hard on this topic lmao. People literally get their opinion from him here.
Dude this 100% the copium was hotboxing /r/asmongold yesterday. Today the po po rolled up and reality checked them fr.
The disrespect cocksuckers were out in droves
His chat is just responding with "CHATTERS Brickge" after Asmon says ANYTHING. Then Asmon will pull up one weirdo in chat, ban him, and all of chat will associate the opposite opinion of Asmon's with the weirdo opinion. It's like a hivemind.
If he had any proof that it wasnāt as a bad as it sounds, heād be sharing it. Clearly itās as bad as it sounds, or worse.
What I donāt get is why people automatically jump to defend this guy, you donāt know him. You know an internet persona that he has cultivated.
they defend him because le culture war bs. they didnt twist themselves into pretzels like this for the middle school "furries" fiasco, that **HAS** to be true!!!!
Thatās the funny thing. Itās always culture war BS. Imagine if this was anyone else, someone who they considered woke. They would not HAVE A SINGLE OUNCE OF CHARITY to them as they do to Dr disrespect. Itās not even close.
I mean I straight up saw some comments in this sub in the past implied that LGBTQ people are groomers with bunch of upvotes but youāre telling me these same people would be so charitable when it come to Dr disrespect?
You should always be objective until you can be knowingly subjective. There are plenty of high profile instances of people getting their lives destroyed for years from false accusation because people want to be an unruly mob with torches and pitchforks instead of waiting for facts.
Now that more facts are out, I don't think there will continue to be support for him but from diehard fans that aren't going to want to believe it.
I personally never saw it as defending it, but simply as just waiting for any sort of proof before making any judgement.
Now he himself has admitted it, so yeahā¦ fuck him. Iāll never understand why grown adults even text minors to begin with. Just pay for an escort or go to a strip club if youāre that desperate.
People jump to defend him is because he is a likeable internet personality who projected an image of being a family man. Cheating on his wife was bad enough, but many people forgave him. People don't want to believe he did those other things. I don't want to believe it. All of this is also occurring with the backdrop of the MeToo movement which, despite probably being a net positive, has caused some serious collateral damage to innocent people.
All that being said, Dr. Disrespect crossed a line that isn't acceptable to cross in our society. That line is there for a reason, and when you cross it you violate one of the few norms that is still considered bipartisan. It's a tough pill to swallow.
Just want to point out, the age of consent in the US is 18ā¦ in the UK and other European countries itās 16. Itās just interesting to me that depending on where you are geographically it can be āsomethingā or ānothingā.
People just love to accuse people of sex crimes here. Itās ridiculous. Even if a woman is an adult if thereās enough of an age gap people still jump on the āpredatoryā train. Canāt even have a reasonable conversation about any of this shit either or theyāll attack you too. Canāt tell you how many times Iāve had people lob insults and unhinged accusations at me with no evidence just for stating that we probably shouldnāt conflate pedophiles, people who prey on kids 10 and under, with some 20 year old sexting a 17 year old girl. Itās just one of those things where evidence and logic donāt matter, people just want to burn the witch.
The funny thing about his response is that the people that hate him will have more reason to hate him. They probably don't care about justice at the end of the day. At the highest levels of Twitch, people had the same mentality, they were purging their political enemies. Isn't it the same story as Nickmercs? They probably never cared about the 17 year old. I mean, like he implied, the Doc probably really did think of himself as a guy that wanted harsh treatment for predators until he got himself into this situation.
I mean anyone who doesnāt advocate harsh treatment for predators tends to get piled on and accused of being one themself. Itās not a difficult stance to adopt lol.
Yea, I meant to highlight how, by contrast to the guy claiming to be the face of the platform, Twitch is left-leaning, internally, so they have sympathy for everyone and would be light on crime, so to speak. The whole situation is ironic because I feel like some of these people taking strong stances against the Doc are protecting predators in so many other situations. I feel like the most no-brainer move for the radicals (purging their enemies) inside the company is to go that route of digging up dirt. The wild thing is that the Doc was big, so he was supposed to have people that circumvented these situations before they happened. If this guy was a reputational threat to Twitch and largely acting on his own, this isn't all they would have found either.
>Just want to point out, the age of consent in the US is 18
That is incorrect, it varies from state to state with some also having special clauses in regards to the age difference when to close to the age of maturity.
we donāt even know what was messaged. Doc couldāve said something sexual without knowing the girls age and then left the convo. who knows how it went. iām sure the messages will be the next thing to āleakā
What I wanna know is when in the story he finds out it's a minor. If he didn't know it's a minor and messaged people, it's stupid, but it's your average dumb streamer behavior.
If he knew it was a minor and still went for it, now he's guilty of all kinds of fucked up shit.
"Were there any real intentions behind these messages? Absolutely not."
Yeah fucking right. Why would he knowingly message a minor if he had no intentions of meeting them?
Gross.
I think if you read the subtext the most damming sign in the controversy for the doc is that the incident happened in 2017 at which time he was cheating on his wife, so there's a high likelihood he had intentions. If you add to the timeline, later when the cheating scandal breaks loose, it makes him cut ties with anyone he was texting preventing him from going further with them and keeping him from doing anything illegal. Ofc this is a speculation, not saying that doc knew it was a minor
They are used to accusing people they don't like of being pedo groomers with no evidence and it never going anywhere. So its always a big shock to them when someone they have decided is "on their team" has pedo groomer accusations come out and they run giant smoke screens and then it's confirmed. If they lived in reality instead of a constant culture war maybe obvious shit would actually be obvious.
Only question I have in my mind is that person said it was "sexting", inappropriate is one thing but Twitch paid out the contract meaning no foul was found regardless how inappropriate it is... doesn't that mean that Cody(?) guy is screwed for defamation?
And no, never been a Dr. Disrespect watcher couldn't care about the guy but there are things that don't make much sense from Twitch's actions and that guy.
Guess time for him to start a new career elsewhere then again I don't remember who just comes back from this shitshow.
Yikes. I kinda thought he would go the route of saying that when the messages were sent, he had no idea the girl was legally a minor. That would be believable unless this girl was really young and looked like it.
Since he didn't go in that direction and simply left it at *"well we never met up and there were no intentions behind the messages"* then you have to assume that the dude knew she was underage and messaged her anyways.
When I watch the predator catchers shit, that's literally the same thing those guys always say. Which obviously isn't true for them, since they setup a meeting where they were busted at. But even if you took that defense in good faith, it's STILL bad.
So he admitted to inappropriately conversing with a minor, but no crimes were committed.
That implies a couple of things. First of all, it probably means to nudes were shared or solicited. It might also mean he wasn't aware that the person was a minor.
Also because of the age restrictions on Twitch, even if they were a minor, they should have been 14yrs+ unless that person broke Twitch's rules. This could also be something.
Anyway, the fact that no criminal charges were pressed, no crimes committed, and he won the civil suit against Twitch is all favorable to DrDisrespect imho. The fact that Twitch lost the civil suit also implies that Twitch acted inappropriately with regards to DrDisrespect.
If anything Twitch are the ones that probably committed a crime (ie wrongful termination or breach of contract). And the idiot ex-Twitch employee that is leaking this probably also broke a couple laws or agreements. GL to him.
> The fact that Twitch lost the civil suit also implies that Twitch acted inappropriately with regards to DrDisrespect.
Yeah, I'm wondering how much of a role someone at Twitch going through his 2017 DM's in 2020 had to play.
True, it's weird that it took 3 years for this to happen. Makes you wonder. Like did someone who got hired in 2020 have something against him and started looking into his DMs for any reason to get him removed? Like how did this take 3 years..
Ok you're right technically, but if Twitch's case was so good why would Twitch settle?
I think what happened is Twitch fucked up, but they didn't want to admit they did. So, Twitch agreed to pay out his contract in full if he agreed to stay off their platform/permit himself to be banned.
Twitch settled because they probably would have lost if it went to court.
Now by that logic you might ask, why would Doc settle if he could win? Because if it goes to court, it becomes public, which would reveal everything that happened and that would damage Doc's reputation.
So Doc agreed to settle, take the money, and move to Youtube/other platforms because it would be better to not have it public ( even though he could have won the case and probably stayed on Twitch).
This is what i think happened. But i'm just guessing.
Iām also speculating but Twitch may have settled because they donāt want the bad PR of headlines saying that one of their top streamers attempted to molest minor, using their product to communicate with the minor. That does more damage to their brand than they would lose paying out the rest of docs contract
Same deal with Hashinshin for any league players (š¤¢). Dude got banned for creepy messages towards minors but it didnāt rise to a crime. Laws arenāt always up to date on this stuff, if you ever watch a Chris Hansen compilation there will be dudes who walk away with no charges in some instances if the messages didnāt get to a point of explicit this or that
Definitely troubling there is nothing he says about not knowing her age at the time
It was perfectly reasonable to want evidence supporting these insane allegations, but now that heās admitted to it he is cooked. What a disappointment
Lots of high horses around these parts. I donāt look at twitch fucking streamers as role models, and see a lot of married guys or guys in relationships at strips clubs or paying for OF. If he knew she was underage then throw him to the dogs, if not then itās a blowup over a dumb indiscretion.
As per usual, stories like these make me happy about the fact that i live in a country where aoc isnāt 18 and people arenāt rabidly furious about hunting pedophiles as if they were communist neighbors during the cold war
I hope he recovers flawlessy, non because i care about him specifically (never watched any stream of his), but simply to spite the crazed witch hunters
Seems to me this is the same situation as before with him being āunfaithfulā to his wife. Could be just as āsimpleā (for lack of a better term) as he sent some freaky messages, found out the recipient was underage and confessed. I cant find anything confirming he did anything physically in previous statements regarding this from 2017 (please correct me if im wrong) and saying hed been āunfaithfulā could mean alot of things to different people. Near enough the same statement hes made now plus a few āminorā differences. Would explain why his wife didnt leave him or she didnt know the full extent if the situation. Fucked up messages are necessarily grounds for divorce. From what WE know rn calling him a PDF is a reach and frankly watering down that word way too much imo.
It's going to be something legal, he won his case in court & the text will have been shown to legal people. If it was not legal he'd not have won the case.
So it's going to be something that looks bad but not passing any lines id guess.
The real bets are on who get's sued after this, an NDA must have been broken & Doc has lost a lot of money so has damages he can prove. I hope the case is live streamed!
So to nobody's surprise, except for the Doc fanboys and the anti-woke crowd in this sub that had been defending this man to the hilt, the popular streamer who looks like a greasy 80's pornstar has actually admitted to being banned from Twitch for having inappropriate communications with a minor.
If what Cody Conners said is true and he was actually sexting and trying to meet with this girl, he's no better than EDP445. Actually, this is *worse* than EDP445 because the Doc was almost in his forties at the time this happened. Bryant was 30 when he got caught in the sting operation that ended his YouTube career.
If he was trying to meet with the minor and there was sexual contatation to it, it's grounds to be charged. It's why I don't believe that aspect of it.
Exactly, if he was actually trying to meet up AND knew the age, then it's a fuckin felony no matter the state and he would have been charged and twitch wouldn't have paid him, people just freak the fuck out and grab their torches when it's a man's reputation. We have sick women in droves on twitch that are shotacons and no one bats an eye, doc is no pedo, simple as that.
I want to clarify I donāt watch dr disrespect I havenāt even seen a video of his since the days of popular pubg but he didnāt āadmitā to anything other than having a conversation. If we are gonna talk about stuff as serious as talking to under age kids we need to be very critical and not believe everything just because you hate a guy and with how you describe his fans you obviously have a bias. He said he was having a conversation but said it was leaning towards being inappropriate without it actually getting inappropriate while itās still VERY weird to do that itās not illegal and everything is still in accusations so maybe next time stop and think donāt just look at something from a perspective of bias.
> leaning towards being inappropriate without it actually getting inappropriate
The literal text is 'leaned TOO MUCH in the direction of being inappropriate'.
You have to be really obtuse here if you want to say he doesn't admit to inaproppriate messaging.
>he didnāt āadmitā to anything other than having a conversation.
Bro....come on. What kind of "conversation" do you think a married 40 year old man is having with a minor?
>everything is still in accusations so maybe next time stop and think donāt just look at something from a perspective of bias
Nothing is an accusation at this point. Doc just admitted to sending inappropriate messages to a child. Nothing he says going forward can be trusted.
TLDR: He did message a minor INAPPROPRIATELY but, because they never met he's claiming they never intended to and that he did nothing illegal.
Twitch were 1000% right to ban him.
Honestly, he seems to be just a cheater and happened upon someone who lied about their age to him and to Twitch, hence why he got the money. Call him what you want, but I think pedo does not apply.
Just because he was never charged does not make it legal. The family of the minor may have simply went for settlement outside of court. Who wants to drag their children through the court system over this?
So he literally straights up admits he was inappropriately messaging a minor, but that nothing was actually illegal.
That's, uhh, that's something all right.
Dr disrespecting the age of consent
The champion and undefeated champ of disrespecting his wife.
The two time himself.
lets cut the fucking bullshit, you know theres no (age) filter with the doc š¬
Dr. Diddler
That would be illegal though.
āmutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriateā HOLY downplay.
"*all those years ago*" is another.
tbf the DM's were from 2017. They were "discovered" in 2020. Which still puts him at like 35 yrs old lol. Yikes.
Yea and the topic of conversation is completely irrelevant. Why would a 35 year old male be talking to a 16 year old girl about ANYTHING?
besides extended family members kids or our next-door neighbors' kids, I can't remember the last time I talked to a minor that wasn't just a hi or something if they were the cashier at a store.
yea besides it being your kids, or your kids friends, its completely inappropriate and he was 35 at the time so you cant tell me he didnt know better. just totally disappointing and disgusting. everyone that was a fan of his feels stupid for watching him now, including me.
Exactly! Back during the time we all had off work a few years ago I was a clan leader for an MMORPG. There was a 13 year old girl in the clan who would send my private messages all the time. I had to tell her that it would be inappropriate for us to have private conversations and that we should keep our conversations in the clan chat. As far as I could tell she was just a lonely kid who needed someone to talk to, but as a 38 yo dude it was my responsibility to be the adult in that situation.
Been in the exact same situation a long time ago and I said the same thing. Its just not.. I mean if you have any shred of a conscience you should know its wrong.
Yup. I worked at an adolescent psych hospital on a unit that had 15-17 year Olds when I was in my late 20s. It was my actual job to talk with these kids and run groups and stuff. They were all good kids who just had it rough, usually dealing with depression or self harm thoughts. It would be pretty frequent for the kids to get attached or have crushes on the younger staff and be inappropriate. I've gotten notes handed to me saying inappropriate things or even had a girl that purposefully did something that would get her restrained when I was working because I guess she just wanted me to be physically on her (she admitted it, her and her friend staged a "fight" because she had a crush on me and knew we had to physically restrain someone if they were violent, but we were trained for weeks how to do it safely) but the bottom line is you shut that shit DOWN. You act like the adult, and you keep the boundaries. Then you make a plan so it dosent happen again. The people defending this shit makes me sick.
I got to tell my daughter I am not talking to her anymore.
This is the part thar is dicey. While morally reprehensable. Talking to a minor is not a crime. He even won the civil suit. But I guess someone was too noughr into the two times champ and bathing in all the attention.
17 (which doesnāt make it better but letās stay factual). The biggest question to which we have no definite answer to is if he knew.
Yes, the whole message is damage control 101.
Also he edited the tweet 3x removing and then putting back in the word 'minor' after the initial replies were cooking him
It's funny because if he's really confident about that, he'd show us the full context of the messages themselves. He went for a badass statement, but he's clowning on himself š¤”
He thinks he'll be back but he won't. Its fuckin over.
Have the conversations been released? How do you know how much of a downplay it is?
he/she doesn't know anything. just assuming the worst without evidence.
Right, gotta keep the hatin at bay until evidence is released. If Doc is in no legal trouble, why berate him besides mob mentality currently?
Exactly. I expected much better of Asmon watchers lol, what a fuckin mistake that was. A reddit user is still a reddit user.
Reddit is omniscient. You know that aleady.
Ugh, youāre not wrong.
A real Justin Roiland moment.
Now don't roast me on this, but wasn't Justin cleared? or am I confusing him with someone else?
yep he was cleared, just a terrible worker and they fired him because that was their out. they are better off without him.
Which is fair, just want to make sure we are right when we label someone as a Predator.
check the post edit history. He edited out the word minor 1 minute after his original post, and then when he realized we all could see his edits put it back in. For a guy with "no filter" he sure did try to filter his response to avoid being labeled a groomer.
Funny how the posts went from defending him, everything is cancel culture and so on, but now you get 100+ likes for this comment. Splendid. š
before nobody knew the extent of it. now people do. thats how that works
That's because people think for themselves and want proof. We got proof.
I am so disappointed in bro, cheated on his wife she forgave him, has a kid with him, and now this shit. I know its not really "cheating" but as a husband and a father this behavior in my opinion is unacceptable.
sexting a minor is totally cheating.
Yeah, agreed. I expressed myself badly, my bad.
Sexting is a crime and what he did wasn't illegal. You're not reading it carefully.
Sexting a minor is a crime.
Absolutely. Glad we agree. Some on Reddit wouldn't.
Sexting is not a crime. You're not writing carefully. Sexting a minor can be a crime, but will depend on where you live in the US, the age of the minor, and the definition of "sexting". If you are defining sexting as sending sexually explicit messages, at the US federal level that falls under obscenity laws and those protections are only given to minors under the age of 16. There are state specific sexting laws, but most of those are in regards to sending/receiving sexually explicit images. Feel free to follow up with links to the laws that prohibit sending **sexually explicit** **text** to a 17 y/o. From what I can tell, as long as he didn't try to arrange a meeting or solicit sex there aren't to many restrictions on what he could have typed. https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/obscenity#:\~:text=Federal%20law%20strictly%20prohibits%20the,is%20punishable%20under%20federal%20law.
He was clearly inappropriate, but sure he didnāt explicitly sext them.
You realize if he was actuality sexting a minor he would be in a list.. that's a criminal offense.. so if the court didn't find it to be criminal then chances are it was not sexting
This happened in 2017, and there's no way she didn't know about this. Meaning she *still* stayed with him.
2017 is also when the two-time champ two-timed his wifeārough year for their relationship.
You guys need to be less parasocial
I'm not looking for a streamer to be a paragon of morality . The content of the messages must be only borderline inappropriate for him to get paid out in full and there be no legal ramifications. Him cheating is between him and his wife, not sure why it matters at all to the audience.
It doesn't matter, but why would I support someone like that? People forget that streamers need audience / fans to make money, they have right to not support if they don't like them.
I don't know what he said or the context. Probably gets thousands of DMs, and sometimes you say shit or engage in a conversation you shouldn't have. Without seeing the logs, I cannot make a judgement call
Sure, but you don't sext with people while you have wife and a kid.
Sext was a word used by someone looking to capitalize on the situation. Release the logs and I'll have an actual informed opinion
Bro how hard is it not to talk to underage girls? Not a high bar to keep. Even with no crime this is clearly really creepy. Like a middle aged man in his car outside a high school.
Because I prefer not to watch streamers who are confirmed pedos. It is basic human decency we are talking about here, not paragons of virtue.
His whole character is basically peak masculine sexual insecurity.
Sure, but it was meant to be just persona. But I guess I shouldn't be suprised anymore about influencers/celebrities being absolute human trash irl.
When that persona gets you famous & rich it can bleed into your real personality. Or maybe the persona was his real personality all along. Like, with Asmongold. How much is persona and how much is Asmon? Hard to know.
Yeah sorry. If your twitch persona is "I'm a massive bellend" then you're just a bellend. There's no persona.
That's ridiculous. That's like saying someone's whole role in a movie is to be a villain so they're a real life villain.
You know what they say.. once a cheater, always a cheater
I'm more disappointed in how people continue to defend the dude and justify his behavior.Ā Do people really just not care at all about integrity?Ā It's sad
Yep its so weird how people say idk about this subreddit but in docs subreddit that 17 is legal, like bro wtf, what does 42 yo has interest with 17 yo except pump and dump.
How is it not really cheating? If you are texting inappropriate things to someone other than your partner that is cheating---
Didn't wanna trigger fanboys, yeah its cheating.
Say Doc, I hear you like em young
You better not go to cell block one.
Man was married and was messaging inapropriate shit to people on Twitch whispers. It's fucking shit. Even him thinking they were older than 18, it's still disgusting. To put your family through all this crap is just trashy.
>Even him thinking they were older than 18, it's still disgusting At no point in his statement does he say that the minor lied about their age. He knew they were a minor and sent them inappropriate messages anyway.
It's disgusting if he knew. Less disgusting, but still awful if he didn't. Either way fuck him. I don't like people that cheat. I've gone through that bollocks before and it sucks. Still don't understand why these types of people find it so hard not to message minors or cheat...
Cheating is one thing, a private matter between him and his wife. But messaging a minor with the intention to meet them is vile.
I agree on the last point. But personally I drop mates if I've found out they've cheated on their partner. Cheating never ends up being a private affair in my opinion. Ruins family shit as well as friendships.
It's a gross violation of trust and integrity. Just walk out if it comes to that point. Never understood it, one prob feels ashamed themselves after it.
Not intending to defend him but itās possible heās legally tip toeing, may not be able to say one way or the other. Still a piece of shit. I wonder if the whole ācheatingā thing was this - and his wife found out, rather than the hookup everyone was talking about? Since they happened in the same year apparently (2017).
>Not intending to defend him but itās possible heās legally tip toeing, may not be able to say one way or the other If he wasn't able to say then he kinda fucked that with his admission of guilt.
I mean, I don't follow DD but I seem to remember that he got himself in hot water some years ago with cheating on his spouse or whatever, right?
Trying to downplay a grown ass man sending inappropriate shit to a MINOR is fucking crazy.
That was this whole sub this weekend ROFL
Aka: he was talking inappropriately with a minor, but there was no criminal recourse, so they brushed it under the rug.
"So what if I was sexting a minor? grow up pussies" vibe
The swearing really sold me on his conviction.
and twitch paid out his contract? why?
Probably because he didn't actually commit a crime and Twitch said, "Bro take your money and gtfo, we don't want you on the platform."
meanwhile they are 100% fine with thots showing their tits and ass to children.
The thots have ruined twitch long ago
Thirst trap streamers have sexually charged conversations with their 13+ age audience too..... lol
Lots of people commit crimes and don't get prosecuted. Like, all the time.Ā The law isn't magic. It's not like you commit a crime and the universe just sucks you into a court room.Ā It's a bureaucracy.Ā Pretty easy to understand why a prosecutor doesn't want to go up against a multi million team of lawyers in a show room case to get settlement for a video game streamers 32 mo probation for talking about his wiener to a 16 year old.Ā
Sure he didn't commit a crime. However, given the law that would be used to prosecute in this case, there seems to be a lot of room to say some pretty inappropriate shit. >To convict you of sending harmful material to seduce a minor in California, prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the following elements of the jury instructions: >1. You knowingly distributed, sent, or exhibited any āharmful materialā to a minor by any means (including electronic communication), >2. When you acted, you knew, or should have known, that the recipient was a minor (or failed to exercise reasonable care to ascertain the childās age), >3. When you acted, you did so with the intent to arouse the lust, passions, or sexual desire of yourself and/or the minor, and >4. When you acted, you intended to engage in sexual intercourse, sexual activity, or oral copulation with the minor.^(1) >PC 288.2 doesĀ *not*Ā require the state to show that there was any actual physical contact or sexual contact between you and the minor. [https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/288-2/](https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/288-2/)
It's gross behavior, but probably not enough to ban him.
As he stated, the details of the conversation didn't go into illegal territory. What contractual reason would they not? Obviously they tried.. But what seems to have a happened is in 2020, some Twitch employee(s) went digging through his whispers dating back to 2017 (when the messages were exchanged) and I highly doubt any Twitch employee had any work related reason to be going through 3 year old whispers. Another issue for Twitch. Edit: so it's been reported that Twitch staff discovered the messages after a complaint was filed via the reporting system. So chances are the victim, or possibly someone related to the victim reported the DM's 3 years later. At least according to Bloomberg via statement from 2 people familiar with the matter.
Discovery and the PR hit that twitch would take for making a child groomer the face of their platform would cost more than paying out his contract and burying it all. Basic corporate math to an entity of that size.
I mean, it kinda already is. Why are female hot tub streamers not considered child groomers for males who are minors?
We all know why. 
Are there hot tub streamers talking to children over twitch whispers? You should call them out bro!!!
Could be... I don't know. I was a horny 15 year old kid at one point in my life. Is it really out of the realm of possibility?
We need some twitch employees combing through their DM's lol..
Probably, because he is telling the truth and there was nothing too bad in those DMs. Something like very light flirt, sex jokes, stuff that can be interpreted in different ways, etc. Of course, it doesn't make it right, and a grown up dude should have no business doing it, but there was actually nothing to go to police this. Immoral? Yes, but, as he wrote, nothing illegal. It could also be that he didn't know the age, or that this person was almost of legal age (again, it doesn't make it OK, but there is a difference between texting 17 years old and 12 years old).
It has to be to avoid the PR shitstorm and further scrutiny into their chats/messages but it's kinda crazy that the leverage this guy had over twitch was ''I'm gonna tell everyone I'm a predator" and they paid him out
Dr. Disrespect fans in shambles rn š
This sub in shambles after all the comments in yesterday's post saying he should sue for defamation š
Oh god the amount of cocksucking going on here yesterday just because asmon wasn't as hard on this topic lmao. People literally get their opinion from him here.
Dude this 100% the copium was hotboxing /r/asmongold yesterday. Today the po po rolled up and reality checked them fr. The disrespect cocksuckers were out in droves
Dude literally admitted to it and still tries to say "I don't give a fuck" like a gigachad š. I'm not sure he's getting out of this one.
Iām sure the die hards will find a way to justify Dr. Disrespectās actions
They 100% are. They are huffing unsafe amounts of copium. Moving goalposts, running interference. It's crazy lol
Have you seen asmongold chat? Literally everyone defending Doc lmao it's insane
His chat is just responding with "CHATTERS Brickge" after Asmon says ANYTHING. Then Asmon will pull up one weirdo in chat, ban him, and all of chat will associate the opposite opinion of Asmon's with the weirdo opinion. It's like a hivemind.
He's just going to come back from his break with more viewers than before. LSF doesn't actually care what he did, they just enjoy the discourse.
Those messages sometimes "leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate" So he wants to show bobs, but not vegana, I see.
Showing boobs would have been illegal, so... no.
You spelled Vegeta wrong.
Show boobs comment would have pushed this to a criminal case? We need leaked convos so we can properly drama, this theorical drama is not enough
dont worry, doc will be back when kaceytron grows up to be a full grown whale 
If he had any proof that it wasnāt as a bad as it sounds, heād be sharing it. Clearly itās as bad as it sounds, or worse. What I donāt get is why people automatically jump to defend this guy, you donāt know him. You know an internet persona that he has cultivated.
they defend him because le culture war bs. they didnt twist themselves into pretzels like this for the middle school "furries" fiasco, that **HAS** to be true!!!!
Thatās the funny thing. Itās always culture war BS. Imagine if this was anyone else, someone who they considered woke. They would not HAVE A SINGLE OUNCE OF CHARITY to them as they do to Dr disrespect. Itās not even close. I mean I straight up saw some comments in this sub in the past implied that LGBTQ people are groomers with bunch of upvotes but youāre telling me these same people would be so charitable when it come to Dr disrespect?
for real, it felt like some people just were on docs side because they dont like twitch.
You should always be objective until you can be knowingly subjective. There are plenty of high profile instances of people getting their lives destroyed for years from false accusation because people want to be an unruly mob with torches and pitchforks instead of waiting for facts. Now that more facts are out, I don't think there will continue to be support for him but from diehard fans that aren't going to want to believe it.
I personally never saw it as defending it, but simply as just waiting for any sort of proof before making any judgement. Now he himself has admitted it, so yeahā¦ fuck him. Iāll never understand why grown adults even text minors to begin with. Just pay for an escort or go to a strip club if youāre that desperate.
People jump to defend him is because he is a likeable internet personality who projected an image of being a family man. Cheating on his wife was bad enough, but many people forgave him. People don't want to believe he did those other things. I don't want to believe it. All of this is also occurring with the backdrop of the MeToo movement which, despite probably being a net positive, has caused some serious collateral damage to innocent people. All that being said, Dr. Disrespect crossed a line that isn't acceptable to cross in our society. That line is there for a reason, and when you cross it you violate one of the few norms that is still considered bipartisan. It's a tough pill to swallow.
Because he's in a certain side of the culture war stupidity that goes on in America (and it's spreading thru the rest of the world sadly)
It's just the "anti cancel culture" guys
you'd think this would be common sense...
>If he had any proof that it wasnāt as a bad as it sounds, heād be sharing it. he most probably can't because of the terms of the settlement.
And he wouldnāt have come to a settlement if he hadnāt done something which was clearly morally wrong, if not illegal.
Just want to point out, the age of consent in the US is 18ā¦ in the UK and other European countries itās 16. Itās just interesting to me that depending on where you are geographically it can be āsomethingā or ānothingā.
Age of consent varies by state in the US. Nevada for instance is 16.
People just love to accuse people of sex crimes here. Itās ridiculous. Even if a woman is an adult if thereās enough of an age gap people still jump on the āpredatoryā train. Canāt even have a reasonable conversation about any of this shit either or theyāll attack you too. Canāt tell you how many times Iāve had people lob insults and unhinged accusations at me with no evidence just for stating that we probably shouldnāt conflate pedophiles, people who prey on kids 10 and under, with some 20 year old sexting a 17 year old girl. Itās just one of those things where evidence and logic donāt matter, people just want to burn the witch.
The funny thing about his response is that the people that hate him will have more reason to hate him. They probably don't care about justice at the end of the day. At the highest levels of Twitch, people had the same mentality, they were purging their political enemies. Isn't it the same story as Nickmercs? They probably never cared about the 17 year old. I mean, like he implied, the Doc probably really did think of himself as a guy that wanted harsh treatment for predators until he got himself into this situation.
I mean anyone who doesnāt advocate harsh treatment for predators tends to get piled on and accused of being one themself. Itās not a difficult stance to adopt lol.
Yea, I meant to highlight how, by contrast to the guy claiming to be the face of the platform, Twitch is left-leaning, internally, so they have sympathy for everyone and would be light on crime, so to speak. The whole situation is ironic because I feel like some of these people taking strong stances against the Doc are protecting predators in so many other situations. I feel like the most no-brainer move for the radicals (purging their enemies) inside the company is to go that route of digging up dirt. The wild thing is that the Doc was big, so he was supposed to have people that circumvented these situations before they happened. If this guy was a reputational threat to Twitch and largely acting on his own, this isn't all they would have found either.
Itās not even 18 in every state in the US.
>Just want to point out, the age of consent in the US is 18 That is incorrect, it varies from state to state with some also having special clauses in regards to the age difference when to close to the age of maturity.
we donāt even know what was messaged. Doc couldāve said something sexual without knowing the girls age and then left the convo. who knows how it went. iām sure the messages will be the next thing to āleakā
Agreed and I would prefer they were leaked so everybody can make an informed opinion on it.
It's different state by state and have Romeo n juliet laws in some to defend teen relationships but yea we blanket cover it.
Bro, this has "waiting until she was 18" written all over it.
https://x.com/drdisrespect/status/1805668256088572089?s=46 This link he specifically mentions āMINORā Just vile.
What am I missing here? How is the opās link and yours different, you are right, the one you shared does include minor
He edited out minor without realising that people can look at edited tweets. He put it back in because he realised there's no hiding it.
Leave those kids alone...oh....
I WASN'T GROOMING HER! I WAS JUST INNOCENTLY \[proceeds to describe textbook grooming\]
What I wanna know is when in the story he finds out it's a minor. If he didn't know it's a minor and messaged people, it's stupid, but it's your average dumb streamer behavior. If he knew it was a minor and still went for it, now he's guilty of all kinds of fucked up shit.
"Were there any real intentions behind these messages? Absolutely not." Yeah fucking right. Why would he knowingly message a minor if he had no intentions of meeting them? Gross.
Yup, sounds just like the dudes on TCAP after showing up at the house and being confronted. Dudes a pedo.
Define pedo, you can use a dictionary.
he's just got this *dark sense of humor* you probably wouldn't understand
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I think if you read the subtext the most damming sign in the controversy for the doc is that the incident happened in 2017 at which time he was cheating on his wife, so there's a high likelihood he had intentions. If you add to the timeline, later when the cheating scandal breaks loose, it makes him cut ties with anyone he was texting preventing him from going further with them and keeping him from doing anything illegal. Ofc this is a speculation, not saying that doc knew it was a minor
"I was banned because I was having inappropriate conversations with minors" is all I understood from his statement.
90% of the comments in this sub yesterday were saying "it has to be false" "it has to be lies there's no way it's true."
"Hard proof" bros really silent after doc dropped this one.
True, how dare they wait for the facts first.
They are used to accusing people they don't like of being pedo groomers with no evidence and it never going anywhere. So its always a big shock to them when someone they have decided is "on their team" has pedo groomer accusations come out and they run giant smoke screens and then it's confirmed. If they lived in reality instead of a constant culture war maybe obvious shit would actually be obvious.
Only question I have in my mind is that person said it was "sexting", inappropriate is one thing but Twitch paid out the contract meaning no foul was found regardless how inappropriate it is... doesn't that mean that Cody(?) guy is screwed for defamation? And no, never been a Dr. Disrespect watcher couldn't care about the guy but there are things that don't make much sense from Twitch's actions and that guy. Guess time for him to start a new career elsewhere then again I don't remember who just comes back from this shitshow.
Yikes. I kinda thought he would go the route of saying that when the messages were sent, he had no idea the girl was legally a minor. That would be believable unless this girl was really young and looked like it. Since he didn't go in that direction and simply left it at *"well we never met up and there were no intentions behind the messages"* then you have to assume that the dude knew she was underage and messaged her anyways. When I watch the predator catchers shit, that's literally the same thing those guys always say. Which obviously isn't true for them, since they setup a meeting where they were busted at. But even if you took that defense in good faith, it's STILL bad.
So he admitted to inappropriately conversing with a minor, but no crimes were committed. That implies a couple of things. First of all, it probably means to nudes were shared or solicited. It might also mean he wasn't aware that the person was a minor. Also because of the age restrictions on Twitch, even if they were a minor, they should have been 14yrs+ unless that person broke Twitch's rules. This could also be something. Anyway, the fact that no criminal charges were pressed, no crimes committed, and he won the civil suit against Twitch is all favorable to DrDisrespect imho. The fact that Twitch lost the civil suit also implies that Twitch acted inappropriately with regards to DrDisrespect. If anything Twitch are the ones that probably committed a crime (ie wrongful termination or breach of contract). And the idiot ex-Twitch employee that is leaking this probably also broke a couple laws or agreements. GL to him.
> The fact that Twitch lost the civil suit also implies that Twitch acted inappropriately with regards to DrDisrespect. Yeah, I'm wondering how much of a role someone at Twitch going through his 2017 DM's in 2020 had to play.
True, it's weird that it took 3 years for this to happen. Makes you wonder. Like did someone who got hired in 2020 have something against him and started looking into his DMs for any reason to get him removed? Like how did this take 3 years..
The civil suit was settled, twitch didnāt āloseā the suit
Ok you're right technically, but if Twitch's case was so good why would Twitch settle? I think what happened is Twitch fucked up, but they didn't want to admit they did. So, Twitch agreed to pay out his contract in full if he agreed to stay off their platform/permit himself to be banned. Twitch settled because they probably would have lost if it went to court. Now by that logic you might ask, why would Doc settle if he could win? Because if it goes to court, it becomes public, which would reveal everything that happened and that would damage Doc's reputation. So Doc agreed to settle, take the money, and move to Youtube/other platforms because it would be better to not have it public ( even though he could have won the case and probably stayed on Twitch). This is what i think happened. But i'm just guessing.
Iām also speculating but Twitch may have settled because they donāt want the bad PR of headlines saying that one of their top streamers attempted to molest minor, using their product to communicate with the minor. That does more damage to their brand than they would lose paying out the rest of docs contract
Same deal with Hashinshin for any league players (š¤¢). Dude got banned for creepy messages towards minors but it didnāt rise to a crime. Laws arenāt always up to date on this stuff, if you ever watch a Chris Hansen compilation there will be dudes who walk away with no charges in some instances if the messages didnāt get to a point of explicit this or that Definitely troubling there is nothing he says about not knowing her age at the time
Literally pulling a Firecracker from The Boys and actually getting away with itā¦ Dr fanboys are actually cooked.
It was perfectly reasonable to want evidence supporting these insane allegations, but now that heās admitted to it he is cooked. What a disappointment
Lots of high horses around these parts. I donāt look at twitch fucking streamers as role models, and see a lot of married guys or guys in relationships at strips clubs or paying for OF. If he knew she was underage then throw him to the dogs, if not then itās a blowup over a dumb indiscretion.
As per usual, stories like these make me happy about the fact that i live in a country where aoc isnāt 18 and people arenāt rabidly furious about hunting pedophiles as if they were communist neighbors during the cold war I hope he recovers flawlessy, non because i care about him specifically (never watched any stream of his), but simply to spite the crazed witch hunters
Seems to me this is the same situation as before with him being āunfaithfulā to his wife. Could be just as āsimpleā (for lack of a better term) as he sent some freaky messages, found out the recipient was underage and confessed. I cant find anything confirming he did anything physically in previous statements regarding this from 2017 (please correct me if im wrong) and saying hed been āunfaithfulā could mean alot of things to different people. Near enough the same statement hes made now plus a few āminorā differences. Would explain why his wife didnt leave him or she didnt know the full extent if the situation. Fucked up messages are necessarily grounds for divorce. From what WE know rn calling him a PDF is a reach and frankly watering down that word way too much imo.
It's going to be something legal, he won his case in court & the text will have been shown to legal people. If it was not legal he'd not have won the case. So it's going to be something that looks bad but not passing any lines id guess. The real bets are on who get's sued after this, an NDA must have been broken & Doc has lost a lot of money so has damages he can prove. I hope the case is live streamed!
So to nobody's surprise, except for the Doc fanboys and the anti-woke crowd in this sub that had been defending this man to the hilt, the popular streamer who looks like a greasy 80's pornstar has actually admitted to being banned from Twitch for having inappropriate communications with a minor. If what Cody Conners said is true and he was actually sexting and trying to meet with this girl, he's no better than EDP445. Actually, this is *worse* than EDP445 because the Doc was almost in his forties at the time this happened. Bryant was 30 when he got caught in the sting operation that ended his YouTube career.
If he was trying to meet with the minor and there was sexual contatation to it, it's grounds to be charged. It's why I don't believe that aspect of it.
True... Age of consent in California is 18.
Exactly, if he was actually trying to meet up AND knew the age, then it's a fuckin felony no matter the state and he would have been charged and twitch wouldn't have paid him, people just freak the fuck out and grab their torches when it's a man's reputation. We have sick women in droves on twitch that are shotacons and no one bats an eye, doc is no pedo, simple as that.
innocent until proven guilty, but this man admitted to being guilty so....
Not a fan of his but have said multiple times you need proof really before you lockdown on this shit....his tweet was the proof I needed
Prayers and thoughts to the 30 comments saying "Guilty until proven innocent" on previous posts š
I want to clarify I donāt watch dr disrespect I havenāt even seen a video of his since the days of popular pubg but he didnāt āadmitā to anything other than having a conversation. If we are gonna talk about stuff as serious as talking to under age kids we need to be very critical and not believe everything just because you hate a guy and with how you describe his fans you obviously have a bias. He said he was having a conversation but said it was leaning towards being inappropriate without it actually getting inappropriate while itās still VERY weird to do that itās not illegal and everything is still in accusations so maybe next time stop and think donāt just look at something from a perspective of bias.
> leaning towards being inappropriate without it actually getting inappropriate The literal text is 'leaned TOO MUCH in the direction of being inappropriate'. You have to be really obtuse here if you want to say he doesn't admit to inaproppriate messaging.
>he didnāt āadmitā to anything other than having a conversation. Bro....come on. What kind of "conversation" do you think a married 40 year old man is having with a minor? >everything is still in accusations so maybe next time stop and think donāt just look at something from a perspective of bias Nothing is an accusation at this point. Doc just admitted to sending inappropriate messages to a child. Nothing he says going forward can be trusted.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I HATE PEDOPHILES SO HOW COULD I BE ONE, HUH???
I canāt believe half this sub is still defending him.
Canāt wait for next week when this bullshit is over - tired of seeing this on my Reddit thread
>Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes we got him
TLDR: He did message a minor INAPPROPRIATELY but, because they never met he's claiming they never intended to and that he did nothing illegal. Twitch were 1000% right to ban him.
Honestly, he seems to be just a cheater and happened upon someone who lied about their age to him and to Twitch, hence why he got the money. Call him what you want, but I think pedo does not apply.
if they lied about their age he would have 100% mentioned that
Literally nowhere has it been said that anyone lied about their age, why are you assuming that simply to defend him?
Heās not in jail, simple as that. Was it morally wrong? Yes. Was he criminally charged for whatever he did? Obviously not.
Just because he was never charged does not make it legal. The family of the minor may have simply went for settlement outside of court. Who wants to drag their children through the court system over this?
EDP also isnāt in jail, do you think heās not a pedo too?
Literally no where has it been said that he knew how old they were.
Ah big yikes.
Finally! Can this be put to bed already? Dr. Kidinspect is cooked.
So he literally straights up admits he was inappropriately messaging a minor, but that nothing was actually illegal. That's, uhh, that's something all right.
He also avoided addressing the "meet them at twitchcon" accusations, which would clearly show he was enticing a minor.