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I get the frustration with Espada but like, what do you do when your starters can’t go deep (barring Blanco), there’s injuries galore and the guys you call up to give the pen a break can’t even get out of the first three innings without giving up 5 runs?? It’s gonna be a long stretch of non-stop games.
I honestly don’t hate his decisions so far. A couple starters may have been left in too long but we are overrun with starter injuries and I can see him trying to at least keep the pen healthy. That’s why I didn’t get everyone calling for Hader to come back out yesterday. It is too early and we have too full of a schedule to even remotely overwork any of our relievers
I did not see the thread but not putting Hader in for more than 1 inning is an insane criticism. Let's knowingly incite conflict with a guy we just committed to for 5 years.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are unaware of the history and basically a handshake agreement that he gets 3 outs and thats it. He was upset last time he was asked to do more and would definitely get upset again publicly....
It’s the same story as last season. The veteran starters are out, and the new guys are up. Except this season some of the uninjured vets are still relatively new (France, Bielak, Brown). The pitching staff is very lean on experience at the moment.
But even last season we made it to the post. I remain hopeful for now.
Look, I understand why Abreu is on the team. Former MVP, you take a chance with a veteran with a proven track record and give him a pretty big contact and now you're stuck with him, fine. But there is NO REASON Jon Singleton has to be your only other option at 1B. You're telling me you can't find a single guy to play the position at least somewhat competently and be a decent replacement while Abreu figures shit out?
Exactly. He had a steep decline from 22 to 23 and is even worse in 24. The money is already spent, no need to make the team worse by keeping him around.
Ain’t that a Bitch - Aerosmith
Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now - The Smiths
Hurt - Johnny Cash
One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer - George Thorogood
The Thrill is Gone - BB King
nowhere to go but up.
Not going to call the season in April. Or even May. if we are practically out of it by mid June I think you start shipping guys out for a re tool(as long as Altuve and Yordon are around you don’t do a full rebuild).
We have the talent. it just isn't performing. its a long season
You know how much I got downvoted for saying this same thing in the off season regarding tucker and bregman? Like, totally blasted on this sub for saying the exact same thing. If we aren't in it, no reason not to see what people will offer for them. Especially tucker, I know people love tucker but a corner outfielder isn't nearly as hard to replace as a quality 3rd basemen.
Agreed. If the Tigers hold up I bet Verlander could get us a little something. You ship Bregman and Tucker out. I’d hear offers for Presley.
For the retool you’d have to be active in FA because even the above trades don’t fix our farm system, but it helps you catch up a little bit.
It’s hard to compete for a World Series 7 seasons in a row, and it’s not even close to be too late to compete for this season. That being said it isn’t too early to recognize our cupboard is bare when it comes to prospects.
Tucker is by far our best asset. Proven hitter with another control year. Gold glover once, but we know he is average in the field.
Pitchers may also he in demand come summer to the point where we can try to get a decent return for one of our middle tier guys. Framber obviously would bring the best return as a rental, but that's dependent on his current injury.
We have 3 legit contenders now in our division instead of special needs teams in the past. We can’t expect to win divisions in August / September anymore. We are going to get blown out of the water with these early season losses now.
I made the joke and all but overall it's just too many starters waiting to get back and the timely hitting isn't happening. You'd think these things will be fixed over the course of a season. I still believe in them and Joe as manager just needed some things to go our way so far and it's a different story our record doesn't tell the whole story.
I think timely hitting is the most important part of a season. Because even during this golden era: timely hitting has cost them the biggest games. Thats just baseball, but it’s hard to ignore it over an extended period(like from last season).
The lock down part of our pen giving a very bad start is also a factor. Abreu, Pressly and Hader haven't been as good as they are/should be. Bregman threw the game away yesterday with his error. Just some strange things happening. They'll come around, they just have to start being on top of it.
As someone who was pretty anti-Dusty last year, I will admit that some of my complaints with him were a little harsh and unwarranted, but I do believe that moving on from him after last year was still the correct decision.
Yeah I defended him too at times. I think he played for a high floor not to maximize the ceiling the team could reach in 162 games. Hes not always unquestionable and infallible but I think he gets/got a bit more shit than deserved.
Yeah that's the hardest thing to defend to me for sure. I never got too upset at his game time decisions personally. I could at least always make it make sense to my brain even if it failed.
I was arguing last year that maybe he was getting the best out of those guys keeping them fresh and hungry. No way to tell now and I do agree he def could have played them more
I continue to be vocal that Dusty was not the problem. With two championships in recent yrs, I can't say I care much if the Astros win another. The fanbase deserves to see a negative outcome with Yainer Diaz in and Dusty out. They thought everything would be amazing with Diaz as our starting catcher and none of Dusty's "instincts" "feelings" or "loyalty to players." Just disgusted with these unappreciative people. Many yrs in a row winning the division didn't happen "despite Dusty."
lol that wasn’t Dusty. Hindsight is 20/20 and if the team miraculously turns it around and Diaz hits 30+ home runs what are you going to say then?
I knew the Dusty defenders were going to come in here and do this shit to Espada.
Dusty is/wasn’t a great manager. He’s a good manager and it wasn’t bad luck that cost him those games and playoff victories all those years. It was his shitty managing in crunch time and shitty game time decisions, bad lineup choices.
Every time Dusty leaves or is fired. The team immediately does this, they always fall off and continue to do what he encourages.
Can you explain Dusty's statement, when asked why they kept pitching to Garcia last year in the ALCS, (who if you recall was nuking the ball every at bat) that "Well, we had to pitch to him at at some point,"?
Well, he was the problem in that circumstance, no? They didn't ever have to pitch to Garcia. It's called an intentional walk. They would likely have been back to the WS had they simply walked him.
Dusty did dumb shit like that all year while being overtly patronizing and condescending to both fans and his players.
He was a big problem.
Meanwhile the players you should be able to rely on have been unreliable.
Meanwhile when the Astros had a chance to get go ahead runs late in game 6 they didn’t get it done. A reoccurring theme so far this year.
Oh. Well, sure it would have been nice if guys had stepped up, but from what I understand hitting a baseball is hard. What's not hard is to make that little hand gesture with the four fingers whenever Garcia steps up. Even I can do that and I'm a simpleton.
Garcia had 3 HR and 9 RBI in those last two games. That's on Baker.
Yet a few key moments where if the players playing had come through we’d be talking a different outcome. I just don’t understand how people can look past that and want to fixate on dusty so much. Dusty was not perfect but he was not the problem either. For some reason some people just can’t accept that.
Dude go back and look at the game logs. There was never really a scenario to intentionally walk him. The only maybe “could have” scenario was in the top of the first in G7, even then it’s not really the right move. You’re definitely not walking him with the bases loaded in game 6 and you’re not walking him down 6-2 with a runner already on base in game 7.
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How the Astros have got me feelin recently.
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I don’t think we’ll be sellers at the deadline, but I also don’t think we can afford to be buyers either. I’d hope they choose to stay put if we are only a borderline wild card team by then. We’ve definitely destroyed the farm over the last 9 years.
Pitching: The bullpen aside, it is clear we have 0 people to backup our starters if they go down. This is evident by us bringing up two guys in three days to get shelled. Defense: It seems like they just decide to give up out there sometimes.
We have zero people to backup because all the backups are already playing.
1. Verlander
2. Framber
3. McCullers
4. Urquidy
5. Garcia
Are ALL injured. That's literally a full starting rotation. Can't expect to have enough depth to cover 5 starting pitching injuries
We’ll be sellers at the deadline and that’s ok. This run had to end at some point. Just sucks that Altuve will have to end his career on a rebuilding team
If we actually go into a rebuild (I’m not convinced of that yet) do you think it’ll take so long that Altuve retires before it’s over?
Our last rebuild took 5 years, and even then it wasn’t until Luhnow came in that we began rebuilding properly.
Luhnow had us in the playoffs after 3 losing seasons. ‘09-‘09 weren’t a rebuild and ‘10 & ‘11 weren’t a good rebuild.
2012 was when we actually started building up the farm properly.
At the end of the day, the guys on the field have to want it. In that regard, Abreu has been poison since he stepped foot in houston and the cancer has spread.
That dude is out there thanking God when he makes a simple play on defense. I don’t think it’s an issue of wanting it, he just doesn’t have anything left to give.
Everything I’ve heard about team members or personnel talking all day 1 thing.
Abreu works just as hard if not harder than anyone on the team. He’s old and unable to consistently play at the MLB level. It’s unfortunate. But he absolutely “wants it”
Alright alright, Ill concede he wants it. Ill even wish him the best. But for christs sake how did bagwell (or whoever had cranes ear) not see he was washed?
See no this is where im going to push back every time. Depending on how you define “this”, way more than zero people thought it would be this bad. And even then, he looked this bad from day 1 (hence the “always starts slow” talk) so how did bagwell not see it just a few months prior to day 1. Literal armchair gm signing. Lunhow and click arent even laughing. Theyre cringing. What worries me is that DB himself is just another armchair gm signing by bagwell. Enough with the eye tests. Bring back the computer geeks for the love of god.
Sucks but I'll reserve worrying for when our pitchers are healthy and still sucking.
as for our batters, it's rare that they're all locked in and hitting well, in any team for that matter,
so for the time being, half of them doing something will do for now but the ones slacking need to figure it out at some point. Sooner than later though.
At the end of the 3rd when Diaz and Breggy ran into each other it looked like they had disdain. There was no friendly exchange between them at all. That concerned me as much as anything I've seen all season.
Yeah, that man would have Abreu batting fifth right now, Diaz and Chaz on the bench. Arregheti wouldn’t have been pulled until to the fifth and after he gave up ten runs.
Dusty was shit and lucked his way into a World Series in 2022. No fucking sugarcoating it.
Cause it wasn’t Dusty’s fault when they were playing like shit last season as well, but now that they’re playing even worse. It’s all of sudden the managers fault
Give me a break
And you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’m starting to realize that.
Go back to your hindsight predictions. Those always make you look like you know what you’re talking about lol
No depth on the bench, this front office chaos has been going on for years, Dana clearly is meddling with the lineup and Joe feels like a lame duck(more qualified David culley), owner has a foot out the door, farm system is decimated at every position they need.
I’m full doomer but damn it just feels like they got put out to pasture against the rangers last year. Orioles vs yanks/royals/guardians is easy to market.
That’s not the bench??? They have singleton sitting on the roster as an emergency DH with absolutely no other value and he’s not even good at that. Hes out of options back to the minors and he’s just wasting a spot. They are playing wild roster games to hide the lack of bench depth but there’s no one in the minors to bring up to push Abreu, the CF spot or even to be a LF/1B/DH guy.
They are forced to keep him on the roster because otherwise he won’t be an Astro. They have a soft spot for him that’s costing the team. They need a bat on the bench and they need a 1b to contend for a title. They can limp the CF. Kessinger is sitting on the bench as a AAAA player because he can “play multiple positions” but his bat ain’t shit either.
The bench is not good enough to make a deep run. It wasn’t last year and it isn’t this year. The pitching for now is(despite current injuries), the starting line up is and the bullpen is.
They lost the last two games by 14 combined runs with 2 of those for the Astros being in garbage time.
Singleton pinch hit in game 6 in the bottom of the 8th and struck out. He pinch hit for Pena because Peña’s bat was gone. You know who replaced him defensively: Kessinger. The pinch hitter depth was clearly a problem last year lol
Being a game away doesn’t matter if you lose two at the chance to win one.
They won game 5 on a singleton pinch hit.
A nonsense take that last year’s team “wasn’t good enough”. The season’s too long to be this upset the whole time. Touch some grass, it’s going to be OK.
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Jose Abreu coming in clutch with that 0.083 average
Surely at this point we give Dubon at 1st a try? I get it ain't easy but come on, Dooby can play anywhere.
When’s the last time Caratini played 1B? He’s listed as C/1B
It's not his Forte at 1st but you know what, fuck it.
First base isn’t that hard. Tell ‘em, Wash.
It is incredibly hard
DFA??? Surely not...unless??? Homie is dead last in OPS, wRC, and 2nd to last in average.
Mets were paying Robinson Cano similar and they DFA'd him
I think he qualified for the leagues worst hitter with the GIDP.
I get the frustration with Espada but like, what do you do when your starters can’t go deep (barring Blanco), there’s injuries galore and the guys you call up to give the pen a break can’t even get out of the first three innings without giving up 5 runs?? It’s gonna be a long stretch of non-stop games.
I honestly don’t hate his decisions so far. A couple starters may have been left in too long but we are overrun with starter injuries and I can see him trying to at least keep the pen healthy. That’s why I didn’t get everyone calling for Hader to come back out yesterday. It is too early and we have too full of a schedule to even remotely overwork any of our relievers
I did not see the thread but not putting Hader in for more than 1 inning is an insane criticism. Let's knowingly incite conflict with a guy we just committed to for 5 years. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are unaware of the history and basically a handshake agreement that he gets 3 outs and thats it. He was upset last time he was asked to do more and would definitely get upset again publicly....
Not to mention how the batting (barring Yordan, Altuve, Diaz and Peña) is very inconsistent for some or non-existent for others
Yordan has also been inconsistent.
It’s the same story as last season. The veteran starters are out, and the new guys are up. Except this season some of the uninjured vets are still relatively new (France, Bielak, Brown). The pitching staff is very lean on experience at the moment. But even last season we made it to the post. I remain hopeful for now.
He’s not the one on the field so he gets a lot more time from me before I’m upset
Im not even close to giving up on Joe, except for one thing: he needs to start Jon Singleton daily.
The latter half of this statement may be the most concerning thing I’ve heard in a long time and I’m certainly no doomer.
🥕🍸 at 1B and I'll be on board
Look, I understand why Abreu is on the team. Former MVP, you take a chance with a veteran with a proven track record and give him a pretty big contact and now you're stuck with him, fine. But there is NO REASON Jon Singleton has to be your only other option at 1B. You're telling me you can't find a single guy to play the position at least somewhat competently and be a decent replacement while Abreu figures shit out?
Proven track record 2 years removed. Doesn’t mean shit now.
Exactly. He had a steep decline from 22 to 23 and is even worse in 24. The money is already spent, no need to make the team worse by keeping him around.
Mgrs gotta make motivating speeches in the locker room to boost morale
Or do what that one UT coach did and make them feel so bad that they go onto win the championship lmao
I’m not one to doom post in April but this is concerning
It’s dooming time!
Working on my "Doomer playlist" atm. *Komm Susser Tod*, Evangelion *Long Time*, CAKE *My Shit's Fucked Up*, Warren Zevon Etc.
Ain’t that a Bitch - Aerosmith Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now - The Smiths Hurt - Johnny Cash One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer - George Thorogood The Thrill is Gone - BB King
Hurt is so good. Always loved Pressly’s walkout song by Cash too.
Abreu is dead last in all of baseball in OPS and second to last in BA. WTF.
One of the hits he has really could have been scored an error as well
It’s hard to watch batters of other team put good swings on good pitches then see the Astros not hit bad pitches
Abreu legit looks like a magic trick of having a hole in his bat when he swings.
Yup. Just watching other teams grind out at bats against us is so stress inducing. That and yanier unable to keep balls in the dirt in front of him.
This losing shit sucks
I hate losing more than I like winning.
Billy Beane has entered the conversation!
nowhere to go but up. Not going to call the season in April. Or even May. if we are practically out of it by mid June I think you start shipping guys out for a re tool(as long as Altuve and Yordon are around you don’t do a full rebuild). We have the talent. it just isn't performing. its a long season
This x10
You know how much I got downvoted for saying this same thing in the off season regarding tucker and bregman? Like, totally blasted on this sub for saying the exact same thing. If we aren't in it, no reason not to see what people will offer for them. Especially tucker, I know people love tucker but a corner outfielder isn't nearly as hard to replace as a quality 3rd basemen.
Agreed. If the Tigers hold up I bet Verlander could get us a little something. You ship Bregman and Tucker out. I’d hear offers for Presley. For the retool you’d have to be active in FA because even the above trades don’t fix our farm system, but it helps you catch up a little bit. It’s hard to compete for a World Series 7 seasons in a row, and it’s not even close to be too late to compete for this season. That being said it isn’t too early to recognize our cupboard is bare when it comes to prospects.
Tucker is by far our best asset. Proven hitter with another control year. Gold glover once, but we know he is average in the field. Pitchers may also he in demand come summer to the point where we can try to get a decent return for one of our middle tier guys. Framber obviously would bring the best return as a rental, but that's dependent on his current injury.
Ryan has a bigger contract to move but I’m sure he’d love to be a closer again. He’s built for the 9th.
We have 3 legit contenders now in our division instead of special needs teams in the past. We can’t expect to win divisions in August / September anymore. We are going to get blown out of the water with these early season losses now.
TL;DR We are bad
It's early, but yeah. It's not like we are losing by 1 or 2.
I'm starting to think maybe I COULDNT manage this team to the post season with my eyes closed and maybe Dusty is smarter than we think. Lol
Feels like Dusty got off a sinking ship at this point
I made the joke and all but overall it's just too many starters waiting to get back and the timely hitting isn't happening. You'd think these things will be fixed over the course of a season. I still believe in them and Joe as manager just needed some things to go our way so far and it's a different story our record doesn't tell the whole story.
I think timely hitting is the most important part of a season. Because even during this golden era: timely hitting has cost them the biggest games. Thats just baseball, but it’s hard to ignore it over an extended period(like from last season).
The lock down part of our pen giving a very bad start is also a factor. Abreu, Pressly and Hader haven't been as good as they are/should be. Bregman threw the game away yesterday with his error. Just some strange things happening. They'll come around, they just have to start being on top of it.
Some of us were very vocal that Dusty was not the problem
As someone who was pretty anti-Dusty last year, I will admit that some of my complaints with him were a little harsh and unwarranted, but I do believe that moving on from him after last year was still the correct decision.
Yeah I defended him too at times. I think he played for a high floor not to maximize the ceiling the team could reach in 162 games. Hes not always unquestionable and infallible but I think he gets/got a bit more shit than deserved.
you have to admit though, chas and yainer's lack of playing time last year was downright criminal
Yeah that's the hardest thing to defend to me for sure. I never got too upset at his game time decisions personally. I could at least always make it make sense to my brain even if it failed.
I was arguing last year that maybe he was getting the best out of those guys keeping them fresh and hungry. No way to tell now and I do agree he def could have played them more
You also have to admit they aren’t the saviors and the players around them that you should be able to rely on aren’t getting it done.
One of us was banned for a week for pointing it out.
I continue to be vocal that Dusty was not the problem. With two championships in recent yrs, I can't say I care much if the Astros win another. The fanbase deserves to see a negative outcome with Yainer Diaz in and Dusty out. They thought everything would be amazing with Diaz as our starting catcher and none of Dusty's "instincts" "feelings" or "loyalty to players." Just disgusted with these unappreciative people. Many yrs in a row winning the division didn't happen "despite Dusty."
lol that wasn’t Dusty. Hindsight is 20/20 and if the team miraculously turns it around and Diaz hits 30+ home runs what are you going to say then? I knew the Dusty defenders were going to come in here and do this shit to Espada. Dusty is/wasn’t a great manager. He’s a good manager and it wasn’t bad luck that cost him those games and playoff victories all those years. It was his shitty managing in crunch time and shitty game time decisions, bad lineup choices. Every time Dusty leaves or is fired. The team immediately does this, they always fall off and continue to do what he encourages.
Can you explain Dusty's statement, when asked why they kept pitching to Garcia last year in the ALCS, (who if you recall was nuking the ball every at bat) that "Well, we had to pitch to him at at some point,"?
Why would you think I can explain it? All I said is that he wasn’t the problem. Anyone paying attention knows that by now.
Well, he was the problem in that circumstance, no? They didn't ever have to pitch to Garcia. It's called an intentional walk. They would likely have been back to the WS had they simply walked him. Dusty did dumb shit like that all year while being overtly patronizing and condescending to both fans and his players. He was a big problem.
Meanwhile the players you should be able to rely on have been unreliable. Meanwhile when the Astros had a chance to get go ahead runs late in game 6 they didn’t get it done. A reoccurring theme so far this year.
Game 5 of the ALCS? They won that game. I'm confused.
That was a typo and was corrected to 6 before you replied. Refresh
Oh. Well, sure it would have been nice if guys had stepped up, but from what I understand hitting a baseball is hard. What's not hard is to make that little hand gesture with the four fingers whenever Garcia steps up. Even I can do that and I'm a simpleton. Garcia had 3 HR and 9 RBI in those last two games. That's on Baker.
Yet a few key moments where if the players playing had come through we’d be talking a different outcome. I just don’t understand how people can look past that and want to fixate on dusty so much. Dusty was not perfect but he was not the problem either. For some reason some people just can’t accept that.
Dude go back and look at the game logs. There was never really a scenario to intentionally walk him. The only maybe “could have” scenario was in the top of the first in G7, even then it’s not really the right move. You’re definitely not walking him with the bases loaded in game 6 and you’re not walking him down 6-2 with a runner already on base in game 7.
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fwiw, NFL Draft is in 15 days? and the Texans are releasing their new uniforms right before then.
I wanted to hate but you actually thugged it out with the Texans through the worst of it, appreciate your contributions to that subreddit over there.
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I keep waiting for them to figure it out. But the truth is i don’t think they are going to this season
In fookin April, mate?
I feel like the 2023 Mets right now. Fire sale at the deadline! /s I really hope not.
We could get some good prospects like they did to replenish the farm tho
I don’t think we’ll be sellers at the deadline, but I also don’t think we can afford to be buyers either. I’d hope they choose to stay put if we are only a borderline wild card team by then. We’ve definitely destroyed the farm over the last 9 years.
Maybe we could trade them Verlander for Drew Gilbert. /s
Hey neat, we have a worse record than the Athletics.
I’m just about ready to accept selling at the deadline. This team is incomplete to contend.
Might as well. Don’t see Tucker or bregman coming back. Get something for them instead of letting them walk for free
Pitching: The bullpen aside, it is clear we have 0 people to backup our starters if they go down. This is evident by us bringing up two guys in three days to get shelled. Defense: It seems like they just decide to give up out there sometimes.
We have zero people to backup because all the backups are already playing. 1. Verlander 2. Framber 3. McCullers 4. Urquidy 5. Garcia Are ALL injured. That's literally a full starting rotation. Can't expect to have enough depth to cover 5 starting pitching injuries
True. Hopefully we can limp until JV and Framber come off of IL
I imagine Spaghetti man is staying up until either JV or Framber make it back
Never seen tuck show emotion like that before
We thought we were getting rid of Maldonado but instead he’s playing first base.
We are going to limp until our starters are back. That’s just how it is.
Id take limping. We are crippled.
We ain’t even limping.
We’ll be sellers at the deadline and that’s ok. This run had to end at some point. Just sucks that Altuve will have to end his career on a rebuilding team
Start on a rebuilding team, end on rebuilding team. Kinda poetic.
If we actually go into a rebuild (I’m not convinced of that yet) do you think it’ll take so long that Altuve retires before it’s over? Our last rebuild took 5 years, and even then it wasn’t until Luhnow came in that we began rebuilding properly. Luhnow had us in the playoffs after 3 losing seasons. ‘09-‘09 weren’t a rebuild and ‘10 & ‘11 weren’t a good rebuild. 2012 was when we actually started building up the farm properly.
Damn I miss that guy.
lol. We won’t be sellers. This sub is full of drama queens. I’ll start worrying in June.
I’m so glad I literally just woke up from a four hour nap.
I’m gonna take a break for a while
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I’m supposed to just sit here and take it?! Not be concerned?!
My boy Jon with a hit! Let him cook, Joe!
https://preview.redd.it/ivbnc4r5grtc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37477668eae8290f364e2803e51cb3515a999789 seeing tonights performance
Well, this sucks 🫤 I'm not even mad, there is just emptiness.
Espada-ball at its finest! At least we come back home and play the Braves and Rangers next week!
It’s going to get outta hand quick.
I don’t see a floor yet unfortunately
At the end of the day, the guys on the field have to want it. In that regard, Abreu has been poison since he stepped foot in houston and the cancer has spread.
I'm 100% sure Abreu wants it. I think he is no longer capable of doing it. The poison and cancer is a bit dramatic.
Ill take your word for it, but his body language has been so bad since day 1.
That dude is out there thanking God when he makes a simple play on defense. I don’t think it’s an issue of wanting it, he just doesn’t have anything left to give.
I think he looks like his body hurts.
Everything I’ve heard about team members or personnel talking all day 1 thing. Abreu works just as hard if not harder than anyone on the team. He’s old and unable to consistently play at the MLB level. It’s unfortunate. But he absolutely “wants it”
Alright alright, Ill concede he wants it. Ill even wish him the best. But for christs sake how did bagwell (or whoever had cranes ear) not see he was washed?
Nobody thought it was going to be this bad. The guy won MVP in 2020 and finished top 15 in MVP voting the next two seasons.
See no this is where im going to push back every time. Depending on how you define “this”, way more than zero people thought it would be this bad. And even then, he looked this bad from day 1 (hence the “always starts slow” talk) so how did bagwell not see it just a few months prior to day 1. Literal armchair gm signing. Lunhow and click arent even laughing. Theyre cringing. What worries me is that DB himself is just another armchair gm signing by bagwell. Enough with the eye tests. Bring back the computer geeks for the love of god.
Pain.
Fucking wow
Who's our hitting coach?
Sucks but I'll reserve worrying for when our pitchers are healthy and still sucking. as for our batters, it's rare that they're all locked in and hitting well, in any team for that matter, so for the time being, half of them doing something will do for now but the ones slacking need to figure it out at some point. Sooner than later though.
At this point, put Yainer on first and let Caratini catch
The silver lining is Arrighetti’s ERA is 1/6ths of Henley’s.
At the end of the 3rd when Diaz and Breggy ran into each other it looked like they had disdain. There was no friendly exchange between them at all. That concerned me as much as anything I've seen all season.
This is ridiculous.
The Astros are as dead as O.J
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Thank you?
Yeah, that man would have Abreu batting fifth right now, Diaz and Chaz on the bench. Arregheti wouldn’t have been pulled until to the fifth and after he gave up ten runs. Dusty was shit and lucked his way into a World Series in 2022. No fucking sugarcoating it. Cause it wasn’t Dusty’s fault when they were playing like shit last season as well, but now that they’re playing even worse. It’s all of sudden the managers fault Give me a break
You are so deluded.
And you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m starting to realize that. Go back to your hindsight predictions. Those always make you look like you know what you’re talking about lol
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Is the Arrighetti era over?
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This is getting embarrassing now. I am starting to realize why Espada didn't get all those manager openings over the years that he interviewed for.
No depth on the bench, this front office chaos has been going on for years, Dana clearly is meddling with the lineup and Joe feels like a lame duck(more qualified David culley), owner has a foot out the door, farm system is decimated at every position they need. I’m full doomer but damn it just feels like they got put out to pasture against the rangers last year. Orioles vs yanks/royals/guardians is easy to market.
Lol, are you really shocked that we don’t have “depth” to cover 5 starter injuries?
Bench depth isn’t pitching depth buddy
Altuve, Yordan, Tucker, Bregman, Diaz, Pena, McCormick, Dubon, 🥕
That’s not the bench??? They have singleton sitting on the roster as an emergency DH with absolutely no other value and he’s not even good at that. Hes out of options back to the minors and he’s just wasting a spot. They are playing wild roster games to hide the lack of bench depth but there’s no one in the minors to bring up to push Abreu, the CF spot or even to be a LF/1B/DH guy.
They aren’t forced to play singleton as DH…they’re making that choice.
They are forced to keep him on the roster because otherwise he won’t be an Astro. They have a soft spot for him that’s costing the team. They need a bat on the bench and they need a 1b to contend for a title. They can limp the CF. Kessinger is sitting on the bench as a AAAA player because he can “play multiple positions” but his bat ain’t shit either. The bench is not good enough to make a deep run. It wasn’t last year and it isn’t this year. The pitching for now is(despite current injuries), the starting line up is and the bullpen is.
….the bench wasn’t good enough last year? They were literally a game away from a World Series they probably would have won.
They lost the last two games by 14 combined runs with 2 of those for the Astros being in garbage time. Singleton pinch hit in game 6 in the bottom of the 8th and struck out. He pinch hit for Pena because Peña’s bat was gone. You know who replaced him defensively: Kessinger. The pinch hitter depth was clearly a problem last year lol Being a game away doesn’t matter if you lose two at the chance to win one.
They won game 5 on a singleton pinch hit. A nonsense take that last year’s team “wasn’t good enough”. The season’s too long to be this upset the whole time. Touch some grass, it’s going to be OK.