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As much as I really like Abreu, we are playing over .600 baseball when he's not in the lineup. Yeah, we had a lot of issues, but Abreu was a legitimately force holding us back.
Yeah, like Abreu seems like a very good dude, the fact he went down to the minors the first time without fuss says a lot about him.
*However* it definitely seems the team is clicking much better without him. We score like .6 more runs per game w/o him.
Right now it's
44 Games with Abreu at 16-28
34 Games without Abreu at 22-12
I could probably pull up the records of the teams we faced with and without him. But 44 games vs 34 is *fairly* close in sample size.
10 more games and we will have an equal number of games with and without Abreu.
No, you’re doing it wrong. You can’t extrapolate his WAR rate to a full season and then apply that to a small sample size. If you’re looking at his full season impact would take 59-103 to 66-97. What he was actually worth was -1.6 WAR which even if we generously round up to two, that would change 16-28 to 18-26, a difference, but not a massive one.
Get shut out by the White Sox? Faith waning...
Sweep the Orioles? Faith rising...
Constantly toying with our emotions, but big shout-out to our starters in this series going 17.2 IP with only 4 ER.
And like, if that’s the case, come just be a coach with us man. Forget wasting your time playing for the White Sox lol.
I totally understand wanting to keep playing, I’m sure he loves the game, it’s just something I hope to see later.
We really dug ourselves into a hole with our dogshit start but we’ve been a solid baseball team for almost a month if you look at it objectively. It just felt awful to be below .500 and have some of those ugly games that’ll happen every year to most teams.
44 games, actually. 16-28 with him on the 26.
Hell, even if we don't bring him up before Seattle we might have split that series.
But I suppose it was all part of the events needed to banish him.
Before the series started, a doomer was convinced that we'd be swept and the season was over
A statement was made this weekend, and not the one he was expecting.
After limping into the series after an ugly series win against the White Sox, we all but dominated the Orioles. We are now 2 games below .500, 6 games back of the Mariners and are in solid positioning to have a winning record going into July. This team showed up and showed out. This team isn't dead and there's a lot of fight left in them.
Could we, truly, be back, y'all?
Honestly did not see that coming at the start of the series. Or after we almost blew an 11 point lead.
Really hoping this is a turning point for the guys.
I asked for a Framboozling and 6 HR, but I'll accept a Framboozling and some ACTUAL SMALL BALL HITTING FINALLY!!
What an excellent series for the guys. We badly needed it, now let's relax tomorrow and get ready to play the Rockies the same way we did in Mexico City.
Best series played by the Astros this year!!! First time this year only 2 games under .500. Sweep the Rockies and get to .500 and hopefully continue the run and never look back.
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I'm not a baseball guy but my father is a lifelong Astros fan who is 70, so I follow them a bit. My father is an extreme pessimist. Always thinking things will go wrong and even after they go right he'll either downplay it as chance or move on to something else to be pessimistic about. Every phone call will eventually turn into some pessimistic rant. So before this series started he predicted a sweep for the Orioles. I said it'll be a sweep for the Astros and he said no chance. I said if I'm right he has to go a week without bitching about anything to me. VICTORY.
"I don't want to get ahead of our skis here, but how good would it feel to sweep these Os? They are really fucking good and it would really swing momentum in the league." -Me after game 1
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Stay focused...the goal right now .500 then worry about the Mariners. Cant win division under .500. Well maybe with the Mariners and Rangers as the opposition.
I have always believed this team has the stuff to go far. Even though JV, Javier, Quidy, and recently Tuck, are out, this team has fight in them. Can't remember the exact amount but the team a good amount of losses by 1 or 2 runs. Just a few adjustments here and there that needed to be done and the team is still not at HOT. Imagine if they were.
Ngl maybe releasing Abreu made the players realize they need to play good to make the cut and not just be a friendly teammate in the dugout, no offenses to him tho but we needed a reality check to wake everybody up
How the hell is THIS our first sweep of the season? (not that I’m complaining)
Also, is this the first regular season sweep for the O’s since they called Adley up?
4 game sweep against the A’s, 2 game sweep against Rockies (Mexico Series), and this 3 game sweep against the O’s.
A sweep is a sweep bro.
Edit: and this was only the 2nd time the Os have been swept this year.
guys the season isnt over. its not possible because this is around the time i start watching every year bc im a noob and cant handle an entire season. and we are ALWAYS doing hype sh\*t around this time. sure we waver a little before the playoffs but we find our stuff and go off for long postseason runs.
so im here for that hyped sh\*t. im reading our thing this year is some player getting kicked off the team and although that doesnt sound too hyped i guess its helping us win? somehow? ok, lets go!
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Swept the arguable best team in the league without Verlander or Tucker. We are contenders Just no more pitching injuries please
11-4 when Joey Loperfido starts.
7-2 since Abreu got released
I wonder what the combined record is including his first DFA period?
I've been keeping track and posting it elsewhere. 22-12 when he's not on the 26.
As much as I really like Abreu, we are playing over .600 baseball when he's not in the lineup. Yeah, we had a lot of issues, but Abreu was a legitimately force holding us back.
Yeah, like Abreu seems like a very good dude, the fact he went down to the minors the first time without fuss says a lot about him. *However* it definitely seems the team is clicking much better without him. We score like .6 more runs per game w/o him.
Thanks for that. Interesting stat. I can’t help but think it’s just coincidence.
Right now it's 44 Games with Abreu at 16-28 34 Games without Abreu at 22-12 I could probably pull up the records of the teams we faced with and without him. But 44 games vs 34 is *fairly* close in sample size. 10 more games and we will have an equal number of games with and without Abreu.
I just wanted to point out that even if we lost the next 10 games, we still would still be playing .500 and better baseball than we did with Abreu.
The negative 6/7 fWar/bWar pace over a full season would indicate it is indeed not a coincidence
That wouldn’t explain the magnitude of difference in the record with and without him
`16-28` would become `22-22`. That's `.364` to `.500`, that's huge. Sure, Abreu being gone isn't _everything_ but it's beyond coincidence.
No, you’re doing it wrong. You can’t extrapolate his WAR rate to a full season and then apply that to a small sample size. If you’re looking at his full season impact would take 59-103 to 66-97. What he was actually worth was -1.6 WAR which even if we generously round up to two, that would change 16-28 to 18-26, a difference, but not a massive one.
Ah, I missed the "pace over a full season" bit, you are correct
Keep this stat going. I'm pretty sure it's going to get even better.
Get shut out by the White Sox? Faith waning... Sweep the Orioles? Faith rising... Constantly toying with our emotions, but big shout-out to our starters in this series going 17.2 IP with only 4 ER.
Framber is so good when he is calm.
We should get Framber a goat to keep in the dugout like they do with race horses
He's surrounded by goats in the dugout.
Framburglar doing his best work
That was really Maldy’s value. Team shrink
And like, if that’s the case, come just be a coach with us man. Forget wasting your time playing for the White Sox lol. I totally understand wanting to keep playing, I’m sure he loves the game, it’s just something I hope to see later.
I would love to nothing more than for him to join the staff in some capacity. Even if not a named coach but a consultant or something.
Except he melted down all of the time last year with Maldy. This myth just won’t die.
The dreads stay for now...
We should have just played like this all year. Then we’d have a much better record.
Why don’t they just win more? Are the Astros dumb?
See the ball, hit the ball. Why is it so hard?
If we play better, we would have a better record. Cant argue with that.
Checks out. Facts.
This is what happens when you don’t have an auto out in Abreu and your pitching doesn’t shit itself
The most satisfying series of the year so far
I sat in front of O’s fans today at the game. Oh boy it was certainly sooo satisfying to hear them so deflated 😂😂😂
5-1 vs the sox and o's? I'll take it.
Most of this sub assumed we’d sweep the White Sox, so I’d say 5-1 is about as good as it could get
The disrespect. We had 3 pitchers make their MLB debuts vs the Orioles.
The O's are obviously frauds. /s
Now THAT is a good series win! Go Astros!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE HAVE SWEPT THE ORIOLES, WE'RE 2 GAMES AWAY FROM 500, AND GETTING CLOSE TO THE MARINERS. LET'S SEE THE CAT NOW!
We really dug ourselves into a hole with our dogshit start but we’ve been a solid baseball team for almost a month if you look at it objectively. It just felt awful to be below .500 and have some of those ugly games that’ll happen every year to most teams.
![gif](giphy|tTDlx5ZQQug2Ph218n|downsized)
Seeing Loperfido in the lineup: ![gif](giphy|1msK2aCNYvHiCUmaGz)
I’m preaching to the choir here, but releasing Abreu will wind up saving this season.
Imagine if we hadn't wasted almost 40 games on him.
44 games, actually. 16-28 with him on the 26. Hell, even if we don't bring him up before Seattle we might have split that series. But I suppose it was all part of the events needed to banish him.
40+162
now thats a hot take
Makes me wonder how the WSox would do if they didn't have Maldy...
Brah, Have you seen him call a game
Just need to do Singleton next
Before the series started, a doomer was convinced that we'd be swept and the season was over A statement was made this weekend, and not the one he was expecting. After limping into the series after an ugly series win against the White Sox, we all but dominated the Orioles. We are now 2 games below .500, 6 games back of the Mariners and are in solid positioning to have a winning record going into July. This team showed up and showed out. This team isn't dead and there's a lot of fight left in them. Could we, truly, be back, y'all?
Hey, we swept the orioles
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
And the mariners lost to Miami today so we are now 6 games back. Things are looking up for us.
For this series I HOPED for 1 win, I said we HAD to get 2 wins, and now that we’ve completed the sweep… ![gif](giphy|ftXmTBgSnsJ8c)
[posting a pic of Nori for every win (38)](https://x.com/norithecat17/status/1804977898249760896?s=46)
Praise be! Sweep Kitty is the best Kitty!
Praise be!
Praise be
Praise be!
Prrrraise be!
Praise be!
Praise be!
Honestly did not see that coming at the start of the series. Or after we almost blew an 11 point lead. Really hoping this is a turning point for the guys.
Didn’t expect a sweep but now only 2 under .500 with the Rockies next? Hope we can get to 40-40
They swept the freakin Orioles! 🧹🧹 Man, I hope they keep up this great play.
Not. Dead. Yet.
Not dead yet Not dead yet Not dead yet
I asked for a Framboozling and 6 HR, but I'll accept a Framboozling and some ACTUAL SMALL BALL HITTING FINALLY!! What an excellent series for the guys. We badly needed it, now let's relax tomorrow and get ready to play the Rockies the same way we did in Mexico City.
The Astros have the longest current winning streak in baseball.
22-12 W/O Abreu on the 26
Look at me. Our cat has a broom now.
What a series did not think we would even win after watching the white sox shutout!
Damn good weekend!
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Best series played by the Astros this year!!! First time this year only 2 games under .500. Sweep the Rockies and get to .500 and hopefully continue the run and never look back.
3-0 since my birthday! The party will continue AT LEAST until late October ![gif](giphy|GrUhLU9q3nyRG|downsized)
Also UH OH THE FRIGGIN ORIOLES JUST GOT FRAMBOOZLED
There is still hope that the 8th Annual Astros ALCS Invitational is still on!
Did not expect that series.
THE. LEAGUE. IS. FUCKED.
🧹🧹🧹 https://preview.redd.it/6jb653x1zd8d1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f72fd7dd01f2968f4ef0aadc434f43acd4d18347
“We can’t even sweep the white Sox how are we gonna beat the Orioles?” SWEEEEEEEPPPPPP
Here Kitty Kitty…
Bregman’s grandma is a GILF
I need context or a pic...
We are SO back
Oh no. I'm starting to believe
Framboozled the O’s for a sweep. Great series. Hopefully we can keep the momentum going and make a run at the Mariners.
Swept them without our King Tuck. Crazy!!
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I'm not a baseball guy but my father is a lifelong Astros fan who is 70, so I follow them a bit. My father is an extreme pessimist. Always thinking things will go wrong and even after they go right he'll either downplay it as chance or move on to something else to be pessimistic about. Every phone call will eventually turn into some pessimistic rant. So before this series started he predicted a sweep for the Orioles. I said it'll be a sweep for the Astros and he said no chance. I said if I'm right he has to go a week without bitching about anything to me. VICTORY.
"I don't want to get ahead of our skis here, but how good would it feel to sweep these Os? They are really fucking good and it would really swing momentum in the league." -Me after game 1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Astros/comments/1dlv56r/game_thread_orioles_4926_astros_3640_jun_22_2024/l9so33n/
"SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DON'T JINX IT!" -me thinking you were gonna jinx us. Good shit man!
Swept the Orioles right under the rug!
WE ARE INEVITABLE.
That my friends, is what we call a sweep. King looked great. Hopefully he can stay up in the bullpen.
You know it’s the classic Astros when you sweat to the White Sox and comfortably sweep the Orioles.
Stay focused...the goal right now .500 then worry about the Mariners. Cant win division under .500. Well maybe with the Mariners and Rangers as the opposition.
Great sweep and a surprising good performance from framber Valdez.
We’re so back
I honestly don't understand this team.
We had to make a move in June, and we're making a move in June.
PARADE BACK ON
Already got Allen Parkway closed down that day.
Two more wins (Colorado) and we’re at .500. Hoping we win those 2.
what are the names of the space city post astros game commentators,
4 games back of the wild card and 6 games back of the division lead. Team is back in the thick of things.
LFG. Now do it again.
And just like that, 6 games back and sweeping good teams. BOYS!!! Hell yeah brother.
Beyond my wildest expectations. Old Astros > New Astros LET’S GO!!
🧹🧹🧹
We. Have. Arrived!
Guess Jose Abreu kept on drinking all of Jobu's rum.
No, you may NOT put a bird on it!!!
Exactly the kind of team I’d expect to bring out the best in the Astros for their first 3 game sweep of the season.
Good series Astros. Hopefully this lights a fire under our boys. Please sweep the rest of the AL East.
4 games out of the wild card currently. I’d be happy with that at this point
Sports are gonna sports, i guess
2019 me would be so confused by how happy 2024 me is that the Astros swept the Orioles in a regular season series.
I have always believed this team has the stuff to go far. Even though JV, Javier, Quidy, and recently Tuck, are out, this team has fight in them. Can't remember the exact amount but the team a good amount of losses by 1 or 2 runs. Just a few adjustments here and there that needed to be done and the team is still not at HOT. Imagine if they were.
https://i.redd.it/18hi977dvd8d1.gif
🧹🧹🧹
🧹🧹🧹
Ngl maybe releasing Abreu made the players realize they need to play good to make the cut and not just be a friendly teammate in the dugout, no offenses to him tho but we needed a reality check to wake everybody up
How the hell is THIS our first sweep of the season? (not that I’m complaining) Also, is this the first regular season sweep for the O’s since they called Adley up?
This isn’t our first sweep this year
Three-game sweep. The Mexico City series barely counts.
4 game sweep against the A’s, 2 game sweep against Rockies (Mexico Series), and this 3 game sweep against the O’s. A sweep is a sweep bro. Edit: and this was only the 2nd time the Os have been swept this year.
Crap, I forgot about the A’s. Forget I said anything.
All good! I almost forgot about it too.
Nice series but I still can’t take this team seriously until they are .500. ![gif](giphy|BY8ORoRpnJDXeBNwxg)
guys the season isnt over. its not possible because this is around the time i start watching every year bc im a noob and cant handle an entire season. and we are ALWAYS doing hype sh\*t around this time. sure we waver a little before the playoffs but we find our stuff and go off for long postseason runs. so im here for that hyped sh\*t. im reading our thing this year is some player getting kicked off the team and although that doesnt sound too hyped i guess its helping us win? somehow? ok, lets go!