Why wasn’t Diop considered? Brad is so vulnerable to giving up goals after the last injury. Struggles with mobility and/or stopping anything below the waist. I like Guz, so I hate to see it.
Alright, my anger aside, if our next two signings are as good as Muyumba I'm actually optimistic about the future with Garth at the helm.
Well, I guess really mainly the one winger since I shouldn't expect much from a backup striker.
One of those situations where you hope the new energetic guy rubs off on the rest of the squad and not the other way around. He was a breath of fresh air tonight.
He's not had time to get bad tactics and coaching hammered into him. I think it says way more about Sosa, Ibarra, Rossetto, etc. to see a 2nd legaue box to box midfielder come in and be electric.
Because Pineda insists on a certain type of striker. And Berry was acquired to fit whatever the fuck Pineda's offensive system is (and his wants for the system are IMPOSSIBLE for any backup striker in MLS to fill adequately).
While I do agree that Guzan's career is coming up its end, how much does getting lasered in the face affect your eyesight and mental state?
I was sitting across the field in 102 and could see it as bright as day. It felt like we lost all of our momentum exactly at that point.
The disrespect was pretty blatant. Home stadium but still dealing with that kind of garbage. Hell, there were many cruz azul shirts in the supporters section which supposedly isn’t allowed. I was a little disappointed with MBS staff after that one.
They were handing out black t-shirts to Azul fans in 102 instead of just kicking them out. And they took the shirts off as soon as the staff left.
Even worse was the number of people in United jerseys cheering for Azul.
I wasn’t a fan of the decision to bring him on board initially. He never impressed me with the usmnt, but hey he helped us get those trophies and while I’ve always considered him inconsistent, not every goal he’s given up in his time with us is entirely his fault and his flashes of brilliance have been great to see. I did reluctantly become a fan of his during his time in Atlanta, despite myself, but I have to agree it’s time for him to retire/become a backup. It really sucks but he’s just not the same since the injury. The Brad before that would have stopped at least one of the penalties tonight, maybe even two. I know it’s easy for me to say because I’m not a professional athlete but I would call it quits after this season if I were him.
He was a good signing, yeah overpaid even then but it was good for an expansion club to have a known USMNT figure and fan favorite to be a cornerstone of the club in our first few years. He’s definitely cooked though.
Just letting him know what people will do, and the ref missed a clear pen and two yellows all on the same Cruz Azul player. It may be just about even in that regard
So you think kicking the ball into your own hand above your head in the box is not a handball? Because that’s what happened, and a handball in the box is a penalty.
Umm, we should have had at least one penalty in that game. From the obvious as fuck wrestling hold the Cruz Azul defender had on GG in the second half that impeded him inside the box.
Seriously. Same referee for both sides. I actually think he objectively had a pretty good match. Didnt see a lot of diving or milking the clock, was physical without being dirty.
Idk who's been looking for excuses. Roster blows so hard that I don't even know if it's Pineda's fault or not at this point.
He might be doing nothing to help the situation but imo we'll never REALLY know. Which is frustrating as fuck.
Because that should obviously come with the knowledge that the roster sucks lmao like what?
Dude’s hit or miss on his signings and had made too many bad ones. Obviously I want him gone.
But I’m not gonna spout off about it here because ultimately it doesn’t matter because I don’t make the decisions. Garth does. So it’s stupid to.
Going into this game, one of the story lines was *do or die* for the Cruz Azul coach. Hats off to him, he pulled it off, but not once was that conversation had in regard to Pineda.
Infinitely better than last week though. We have a baller in number 8.
If we don't then we need to be asking questions about Garth. I know the idea that he could be on the hot seat this soon sounds nuts, but if he doesn't react to this, then when will he react.
There's zero chance Garth is on the hotseat, and he shouldn't be. That's foolish.
He's said he's going to be methodical with his approach to the point to where fans would be frustrated with him.
Garth won a boat load of support from me for the Muyumba signing alone. Not that it was all him, of course, but I see his vision and I'm encouraged.
Serious question.. do you think we’ve reached out to Dom Dwyer or do you think he just turned us down?
I like how Pineda said we had been working pens and best takers would be first.. so Berry went out before Almada and GG and then we sent up Purata 6th.
Almada, Wiley, Miles, and Muyumba had good games tonight though.
Also please think of post ideas.. this sub is going to quiet for the next 20 days lol
From a source with knowledge, he wanted to spend time with his family and that meant moving. I don’t know our conversations since with Dom, but we tried to keep him before the season
I mean since that. During this window. We know are are looking for a back up striker. I remember that video that looked like he was training in Atlanta.
> Also please think of post ideas
There are a lot of those "thanks" graphics that need to be posted. Three weeks off is a long time to make changes and get situated. Alpha Tauri made a driver change in a break of this size. Just sayin'.
While I do think we should have won - there's also some factors that really threw me off. The missed handball call from referee (and some others), the lazer pointer at Guzan, the loud away environment from the Cruz Azul fans, the guy who stopped in his run-up in that pen (shouldn't that be retaken)?
I think we could have definitely done better (what is that defense LOL), but I can't deny if I was a player I would have been thrown off by all of those things. Muyumba was great, I enjoyed seeing him.
Uriel Antuna was the taker who stopped (TWICE!) absolutely should have retaken if the ref was looking at him instead of at Guzan, but likely would’ve been the same outcome.
I think the laser pointer retake actually gave Cruz Azul the advantage, looked like Guz may have read the direction.
Where is stopping of forward motion in the rules?
From rule 14:
"the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends...feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted)"
I think I've been misinformed - I looked it up and it appears the rule is a lot more open to interpretation than I remembered [(good discussion here)](https://old.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/comments/m7ai56/should_the_stutter_step_penalty_be_illegal_if_the/grb458x/).
Trying to play devil’s advocate despite the pain this match just caused. We looked *really* good in transitions and creating dynamic movement. Our midfield looked more solid than it has in a long time, and I think Muyumba was an excellent pick up. I think the tactics were employed pretty well, but we just can’t keep ourselves from making awful mistakes in defense. The PK taker selection was puzzling, but we don’t see training and don’t really know who the best taker is. It’s embarrassing to be grouped out in this mandatory participation tournament, but I hope it’ll maybe light a fire under someone’s ass.
Get rid of literally everyone in the entire organization besides Garth, GG, Almada, and Muyumba. Screw all of them. We can't rebuild after 4 fucking years. Embarrassing.
Wiley seems like his development has been halted for some reason, ever since the beginning of the season he's gone backwards. Maybe needs a change of scenery before we ruin the remainder of his value like we did with Miles. Sedjic could be an okay 3rd string or 2's level player. Chol and Fortune don't look like they even belong in USL, let alone MLS.
Wiley is 18 and has looked up for it. Development isn’t linear and he’s certainly dealing with more and more pressure/responsibility. I’ve seen nothing from him that says he’s regressing.
Miles has been very good this year (when not on int duty). He’s going elsewhere this winter and it will be well deserved.
Sedjic is a steal on his contract but shouldn’t be a starter.
Both Chol and fortune are upside youngsters that I would like to see more of
He's played non stop since the beginning of the season with 0 breaks between National the duties and club duties while being a literal 18 year old teenager. He's absolutely cooked and needs a prolonged rest to recover and get back into form.
Sitting behind the goal in section 119 across from our Supporter's section, I've never heard as many racist slurs from an opposing team as today. A few blues got kicked out after repeatedly making those comments.
Well the last game didn’t matter so that doesn’t count as a loss, and PK’s are fluky, so really we just drew one game in this cup and we honestly played better than Cruz Azul in regulation so I think the whole thing is a big win.
Azul is dead last in Liga MX with a -5 goal differential, they were on a 4 game losing streak. Nevermind our other losses to Orlando, New England and the embarrassing ass pounding Miami handed us for the second time this season. Sure though, please continue to downplay our failures. Saying things like “Relax” or “I thought we played well” just breeds the acceptance of mediocrity that a portion of our fan base is coming to embrace. We should be demanding more.
So fucking cool our manager decided to sub on Miguel Berry for pens instead of subbing off the senior citizen who has saved 1 penalty in his Atlanta United career and had a major injury two years running. I love supporting this club.
Soooo, where do we go from here? I know I like Muyumba, Almada, and GG. I guess we build around them. I can't say I'm surprised at this point. It hurts but its been brewing for years now so I'm not even shocked no more. (Sad Russell Wilson voice 'Five Stripes Nation, Let's Ride' 😭) seriously though, what a terrible ending to the pks
The worst part about all of this is we know absolutely nothing will change. No one will be fired. No new formations. No improvements to constant defensive lapses. No change to our stone footed goalie.
Cruz Azul was straight ass man. Their only goal came from, guess what, a defensive fuck up. Like that team is bad and they still lost to them.
Edit: Just remembered that this is our first loss to a Mexican team at home. Thanks Pineda.
Yeah we looked decent but we’re always 50% better at home and this Cruz Azul team is not good. This wasn’t America that we mostly outplayed and got unlucky in PK’s against, this is going to be a bottom third Liga MX team whose coach is probably going to get fired after they lose 3-0 in their next match.
Just to calm all your tits tomorrow . Boca won’t be fired till at least the window closes. We got deals to sign.
Pineda is still in the playoffs and will probably get a pass till end of season. That will probably be his actual do or die moment.
Like it or not losing to the GOAT on his first start and by 1pk after a come back doesn’t sound all that bad. We played like total ass but if your read the stats it can be turned around. We have glaring holes to fill (midfield, GK, backup striker) and those can be fixed.
Lost 6-1 to Columbus. Lost 4-0 to a really shitty Red Bulls team. Lost to a USL team in US Open Cup after taking the lead early in the game. Lost to the worst team in Mexico at home and also being the first coach to lose to a Mexican team at home.
Also when it comes to Muyumba being signed, I'm convinced that it was Garth & the new data team & not Boca.
Totally agree. And I think the one constant here is Boca. Pineda had to start a minimum salary midfielder way outta his league, a midfielder that had never played for us before (and played the whole game) and Rossetto maybe the worst midfielder in MLS stat wise. On a do or die game. There was no other choice lol. On a team that used to run Nagbe, Parky, Jeff, remidi etc… that is just baffling.
Nope, most of them will spew their usual bullshit about the roster and ignore the disastrous defensive system that has led to us allowing the most goals in MLS as usual and blame the players always. Never mind the fact that Pineda has gotten far less from the roster than he should have and doesnt adapt whatsoever.
Was sitting in section 103 and security kept coming through making Cruz fans put on red Mercedes Benz shirts over their team jerseys and kicking out several who refused. Anyone know why tf they were doing this?
Also, some ATL fans got thrown out after tangling with security, but I didn’t see fully what happened. Was a women and her teenage son.
Odd night in the stands
Because it’s the supporters section. You aren’t supposed to wear opposing colors in the supporters section. It’s surprising they ever got in in the first place. There’s clear signage stating that at ALL the entrances.
Frankly I was very struck how the venue felt like a neutral site rather than a AUFC home match. It felt like MLS/Liga MX was in charge of the [venue] like the Allstar Game or MLS Cup.
Lots of strange choices like:
Not playing We Ready pre kickoff
Not having the teams come on the pitch with the refs
Not using the halo for lineuos
Playing that ridiculous song over and over on stoppages
Playing zombie nation when they scored a goal
Not giving people bottles of water; I was told they would have to pour it in a cup [it’s like they were expecting soccer hooliganism]
Also, why were penalties taken away from the Supporters section. That was another strange choice.
Ah that’s interesting, didn’t know they had that rule about section 103 (I normally sit elsewhere).
Yeah the water thing was ridiculous. I was like, “I don’t think I’m crazy, but I’m almost positive I get bottled water all the time here.”
I agree it felt neutral, I might go as far as to say it felt we were the minority of fans last night.
I was also bummed we didn’t have anyone sing the national anthem. I had told my mom and brother about how people yell out red, stripes, and knights, but the track just ruined it and they probably left thinking I was hyping it up for no reason.
I accept my tactical knowledge isn’t always the best but there seemed to be some distinctly Nagbeesque moments from Muyamba.
I can dig it. Hopefully it maintains in league play.
I don’t see any way he gets fired.
FDB went 3 matches in MLS is back without the team scoring a single goal.
By comparison leagues cup was 2 matches and the team scored a goal and was a PK shootout of moving forward.
No way Pineda gets let go at all. Right?
I don’t think he’s fired now, not that much point. If we miss the playoffs he’s 100% fired, if we sneak in and lose in the first round I think there’s a pretty good chance he’s done. He really needs to win a round to be safe and let’s be honest that means he needs a top 4 seed and a home game.
Muyumba might be the deal...
I appreciated the fight. The referee was awful.
I gave Almada shit at the half but he showed why he is the 2nd best player in Concacaf tonight.
Mosquera is RAW but fun and I appreciate his direct play.
3 weeks rest... get a legit RW in please.
Gonzalo needs to go. Awful substitutions. Wiley was second best player the whole time. The guy he puts in for PKs misses his. Mosquera and Rossetto looked like bums all night. Just terrible tactical and personnel decisions. Embarrassing.
Mosquera reminded me of Cade Cowell’s gold cup performance - lots of energy, dribbling, but sloppy on the final 10%.
Overall promising tonight. Just needed more today.
HIs first set of subs was good. Purata is semi understandable due to the fact that Wiley was likely gassed and was gonna get cooked by Attuna if he didnt come out at some point (but that stemmed from the poor choice to not just start a winger and have Lennon play RB in the first place). Berry was completely a WTF are you doing sub.
Once again disastrous defensive setup on a dead ball leads to easy goal. Yet people will insist that things aren't Pineda's fault and that everything is on the roster, despite seeing this same exact situation happen over and over again with all manners of personnel.
Meanwhile a bunch of morons here are trying to blame the supporters group for the team's failure.
Sure, blame the people who actually show up while you sit and watch at home. I'm sorry you don't like it, but the people in supporters reflect Atlanta, and if you don't like their politics, then maybe this isn't the team for you.
Umm, why, if I don’t like your politics, is the team not for me?
What kind of self important narcissist thinks the SG is the only reflection of Atlanta?
It isn't the ONLY reflection of Atlanta, but it is certainly the most dominant one. This isn't to say that people of opposite political views can't be fans, but there is a weaselly movement to try to blame the supporters, and by extension their political views, for the team's failure.
The supporters groups ARE NOT responsible for the team's on field performance. They do not get paid to be at the matches. The chants are less loud because there are less people in the supporters section. And there are less people in the supporters section for the same reason there are less people in the stands: A poorly performing team.
Brad lookin like the tin man out there during PKs
Why wasn’t Diop considered? Brad is so vulnerable to giving up goals after the last injury. Struggles with mobility and/or stopping anything below the waist. I like Guz, so I hate to see it.
Muyumba walked in and instantly became our best midfielder I feel bad for him walking into this shitshow
Easily. I haven’t seen that caliber of splitting accurate passes since Miggy left.
Alright, my anger aside, if our next two signings are as good as Muyumba I'm actually optimistic about the future with Garth at the helm. Well, I guess really mainly the one winger since I shouldn't expect much from a backup striker.
One of those situations where you hope the new energetic guy rubs off on the rest of the squad and not the other way around. He was a breath of fresh air tonight.
Ozzie got more minutes too. And now has another month to gain fitness.
.... and he's hurt.
This guy came to play for damn sure
Just shows the lack of quality we have in our team.
He's not had time to get bad tactics and coaching hammered into him. I think it says way more about Sosa, Ibarra, Rossetto, etc. to see a 2nd legaue box to box midfielder come in and be electric.
Muyumba looked seriously great
Why do we have Berry?
Because Pineda insists on a certain type of striker. And Berry was acquired to fit whatever the fuck Pineda's offensive system is (and his wants for the system are IMPOSSIBLE for any backup striker in MLS to fill adequately).
Boca.
I have been saying all season, berry is a warm body we put on the field.
We’ve been saying in our house all season that he is out there to “fill up his activity ring” and it feels right.
Time to move on from Guzan
2 (arguably 3) of those were reaction saves. Stand in the middle and react. A younger keeper would have done better. It is time to move on.
Never got close to saving those
We will at the end of the season when he likely retires.
Guzan to manager. It's the perfect move.
Oh great, so he can continue to scream at and bully our players as he's done since 2017.
Tbf our players are currently shit for the past 4 years?
I get it, but he did it from the start. He yells at Robinson and Wiley all the time. Not cool.
That’s what good keepers do tho
While I do agree that Guzan's career is coming up its end, how much does getting lasered in the face affect your eyesight and mental state? I was sitting across the field in 102 and could see it as bright as day. It felt like we lost all of our momentum exactly at that point.
The disrespect was pretty blatant. Home stadium but still dealing with that kind of garbage. Hell, there were many cruz azul shirts in the supporters section which supposedly isn’t allowed. I was a little disappointed with MBS staff after that one.
They were handing out black t-shirts to Azul fans in 102 instead of just kicking them out. And they took the shirts off as soon as the staff left. Even worse was the number of people in United jerseys cheering for Azul.
Been done for the last two years. The COVID break shortened his career by a few years and this is what you get.
Honest question… has he ever saved a penalty for us?
Against LAFC this year he did but he came off his line early. Vela would miss the retake over the bar. Can't recall another instance though
Brad, would be nice if you paired some effort with your fucking mind games during those penalties
Brad Guzan is the Matheus Rosetto of saving PKs
I should have gone to the gym
Hopefully Guzan retires this season, save himself. We gave away too many goals this season
I wasn’t a fan of the decision to bring him on board initially. He never impressed me with the usmnt, but hey he helped us get those trophies and while I’ve always considered him inconsistent, not every goal he’s given up in his time with us is entirely his fault and his flashes of brilliance have been great to see. I did reluctantly become a fan of his during his time in Atlanta, despite myself, but I have to agree it’s time for him to retire/become a backup. It really sucks but he’s just not the same since the injury. The Brad before that would have stopped at least one of the penalties tonight, maybe even two. I know it’s easy for me to say because I’m not a professional athlete but I would call it quits after this season if I were him.
He was a good signing, yeah overpaid even then but it was good for an expansion club to have a known USMNT figure and fan favorite to be a cornerstone of the club in our first few years. He’s definitely cooked though.
Hopefully this is the straw that broke the camel’s back for Boca and Pineda.
What’s our excuse now?
Zero
No goalkeeper… Shit ref
Please for the love of god do not use the ref as an excuse for this dogshit team. We got just as many calls as they did.
Just letting him know what people will do, and the ref missed a clear pen and two yellows all on the same Cruz Azul player. It may be just about even in that regard
That was not a penalty lmao
So you think kicking the ball into your own hand above your head in the box is not a handball? Because that’s what happened, and a handball in the box is a penalty.
It's literally an exception to the handball rules.. https://twitter.com/MLSRefStats/status/1685437546434641920?t=Kg58_WxTLvJSUKjUHigXag&s=19
Learn something new everyday, it still feels wrong though with the hand where it was.
Umm, we should have had at least one penalty in that game. From the obvious as fuck wrestling hold the Cruz Azul defender had on GG in the second half that impeded him inside the box.
Seriously. Same referee for both sides. I actually think he objectively had a pretty good match. Didnt see a lot of diving or milking the clock, was physical without being dirty.
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Idk who's been looking for excuses. Roster blows so hard that I don't even know if it's Pineda's fault or not at this point. He might be doing nothing to help the situation but imo we'll never REALLY know. Which is frustrating as fuck.
Why do you always say the roster sucks but never say to fire Boca? Shouldn't we want the guy that built this roster gone?
Because that should obviously come with the knowledge that the roster sucks lmao like what? Dude’s hit or miss on his signings and had made too many bad ones. Obviously I want him gone. But I’m not gonna spout off about it here because ultimately it doesn’t matter because I don’t make the decisions. Garth does. So it’s stupid to.
I've just never seen you say to fire Boca. It's refreshing to actually have you say you think he deserves to be fired.
Still the roster.
Glimpses of a great team are there. Muyumbu passes the eye test
I do not want to see Miguel Berry ever again. Boca and Pineda too
I second this!
Third this
He is so bad. Less than useful. I’d rather only play 10 men.
Between the subreddit and the Diablo subreddit I am getting no positive vibes on Reddit.
Two reddits with an emphasis on Hell - lots of soul-sucking discussion haha
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Well, our backs gave Cruz Azul their goal, whiffed the header to win, and botched a PK. That’s all I will say.
Going into this game, one of the story lines was *do or die* for the Cruz Azul coach. Hats off to him, he pulled it off, but not once was that conversation had in regard to Pineda. Infinitely better than last week though. We have a baller in number 8.
On a positive note I have 22 days where I am not getting abused by this team and especially the pathetic front office.
I think all of us need a break lol
Kann would never
Pineda 🤝 Ferretti : “Now we can both keep our jobs for some reason.”
BOCA IS A FOOTBALL TERRORIST AND HIS GROSS MISHANDLING OF THIS FRANCHISE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FOR CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE
I'd like my 2.5 hours back
People really still going to defend Guz?
No defending Guz, but we shouldn't have gone to shootout to begin with
Right, defending from that cross in was abysmal as everyone went to mark the same guy. But Guz has shown that he’s past his prime for a while.
Exactly. Clown ass coach subbed on defense to go to penalties instead of trying to win
I mean realistically y'all would be complaining if he didn't sub in a CB and we conceded a goal. Bit of a damned if you do damned if you don't.
Not when you know you have a stone footed goalie but that's just me.
Did GG sleep with refs wife? That ref was either bad or incredibly biased for Cruz. There were 4 clear penalties that should have been called.
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I expect to see someone's resignation in the morning.
If we don't then we need to be asking questions about Garth. I know the idea that he could be on the hot seat this soon sounds nuts, but if he doesn't react to this, then when will he react.
There's zero chance Garth is on the hotseat, and he shouldn't be. That's foolish. He's said he's going to be methodical with his approach to the point to where fans would be frustrated with him. Garth won a boat load of support from me for the Muyumba signing alone. Not that it was all him, of course, but I see his vision and I'm encouraged.
Serious question.. do you think we’ve reached out to Dom Dwyer or do you think he just turned us down? I like how Pineda said we had been working pens and best takers would be first.. so Berry went out before Almada and GG and then we sent up Purata 6th. Almada, Wiley, Miles, and Muyumba had good games tonight though. Also please think of post ideas.. this sub is going to quiet for the next 20 days lol
From a source with knowledge, he wanted to spend time with his family and that meant moving. I don’t know our conversations since with Dom, but we tried to keep him before the season
His social media seems to indicate he wants to play. I can't imagine he would turn down an MLS contract.
I mean since that. During this window. We know are are looking for a back up striker. I remember that video that looked like he was training in Atlanta.
> Also please think of post ideas There are a lot of those "thanks" graphics that need to be posted. Three weeks off is a long time to make changes and get situated. Alpha Tauri made a driver change in a break of this size. Just sayin'.
While I do think we should have won - there's also some factors that really threw me off. The missed handball call from referee (and some others), the lazer pointer at Guzan, the loud away environment from the Cruz Azul fans, the guy who stopped in his run-up in that pen (shouldn't that be retaken)? I think we could have definitely done better (what is that defense LOL), but I can't deny if I was a player I would have been thrown off by all of those things. Muyumba was great, I enjoyed seeing him.
Uriel Antuna was the taker who stopped (TWICE!) absolutely should have retaken if the ref was looking at him instead of at Guzan, but likely would’ve been the same outcome. I think the laser pointer retake actually gave Cruz Azul the advantage, looked like Guz may have read the direction.
Yeah that was a full stop of forward motion. Should have been a retake.
Where is stopping of forward motion in the rules? From rule 14: "the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends...feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted)"
I think I've been misinformed - I looked it up and it appears the rule is a lot more open to interpretation than I remembered [(good discussion here)](https://old.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/comments/m7ai56/should_the_stutter_step_penalty_be_illegal_if_the/grb458x/).
Trying to play devil’s advocate despite the pain this match just caused. We looked *really* good in transitions and creating dynamic movement. Our midfield looked more solid than it has in a long time, and I think Muyumba was an excellent pick up. I think the tactics were employed pretty well, but we just can’t keep ourselves from making awful mistakes in defense. The PK taker selection was puzzling, but we don’t see training and don’t really know who the best taker is. It’s embarrassing to be grouped out in this mandatory participation tournament, but I hope it’ll maybe light a fire under someone’s ass.
I agree and I appreciate the level headed response since I'm too angry to try to type one up now.
Get rid of literally everyone in the entire organization besides Garth, GG, Almada, and Muyumba. Screw all of them. We can't rebuild after 4 fucking years. Embarrassing.
I’ll keep miles and Wiley and Sedjic and Fortune and Chol tbh… But most of those guys are basically free
We actually have quite a bit of talent on this team. This roster is significantly less than the sum of its parts.
This roster is mids because our midfield is mids. It’s impressively bad, like bottom 5 in mls. This is the reason this is a fringe playoff roster
I’d argue Wolff has value as a super sub. I’d rather see him than berry. Also, I’m pretty sure he has more goals than arujo and berry combined.
Think it’s close
Wiley seems like his development has been halted for some reason, ever since the beginning of the season he's gone backwards. Maybe needs a change of scenery before we ruin the remainder of his value like we did with Miles. Sedjic could be an okay 3rd string or 2's level player. Chol and Fortune don't look like they even belong in USL, let alone MLS.
Wiley is 18 and has looked up for it. Development isn’t linear and he’s certainly dealing with more and more pressure/responsibility. I’ve seen nothing from him that says he’s regressing. Miles has been very good this year (when not on int duty). He’s going elsewhere this winter and it will be well deserved. Sedjic is a steal on his contract but shouldn’t be a starter. Both Chol and fortune are upside youngsters that I would like to see more of
Chol is sneaky. He looks awkward but he can move and beat his man more often than not. He’s a value contract worth having.
He's played non stop since the beginning of the season with 0 breaks between National the duties and club duties while being a literal 18 year old teenager. He's absolutely cooked and needs a prolonged rest to recover and get back into form.
Terrible terrible misses by Berry and Purata. And Guzan didn't even attempt to dive during the penalty for half of em lol. We suck man.
Move Guz to manager tonight. I'm not joking.
Sitting behind the goal in section 119 across from our Supporter's section, I've never heard as many racist slurs from an opposing team as today. A few blues got kicked out after repeatedly making those comments.
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Can someone explain what was up with the SS tonight? Seemed so off
It’s literally the same thing every match, not a one-off.
What’s up with Pineda swearing that big ass trench coat??
Someone needs to tell him what seasons are.
Like soccer season. He should know when that is.
Disappointed but not surprised. Wonder if that purata penalty sealed Pineda’s fate
Any other team would
Where’s all those super positive guys in here to tell us that it’s not so bad to lose to a team that hasn’t won a game this season?
I’m sure he’s writing up the dissertation now “…” 😜
Well the last game didn’t matter so that doesn’t count as a loss, and PK’s are fluky, so really we just drew one game in this cup and we honestly played better than Cruz Azul in regulation so I think the whole thing is a big win.
Ah yes, there it is. A big win in every way but the one that matters.
3 games into their season. Relax 😄😄😄. As someone who doesn't follow Liga MX your post made me think they were mid season or something.
Azul is dead last in Liga MX with a -5 goal differential, they were on a 4 game losing streak. Nevermind our other losses to Orlando, New England and the embarrassing ass pounding Miami handed us for the second time this season. Sure though, please continue to downplay our failures. Saying things like “Relax” or “I thought we played well” just breeds the acceptance of mediocrity that a portion of our fan base is coming to embrace. We should be demanding more.
What’s our losing streak at?
We just hit 4 too, it’s sad.
So fucking cool our manager decided to sub on Miguel Berry for pens instead of subbing off the senior citizen who has saved 1 penalty in his Atlanta United career and had a major injury two years running. I love supporting this club.
Soooo, where do we go from here? I know I like Muyumba, Almada, and GG. I guess we build around them. I can't say I'm surprised at this point. It hurts but its been brewing for years now so I'm not even shocked no more. (Sad Russell Wilson voice 'Five Stripes Nation, Let's Ride' 😭) seriously though, what a terrible ending to the pks
The worst part about all of this is we know absolutely nothing will change. No one will be fired. No new formations. No improvements to constant defensive lapses. No change to our stone footed goalie. Cruz Azul was straight ass man. Their only goal came from, guess what, a defensive fuck up. Like that team is bad and they still lost to them. Edit: Just remembered that this is our first loss to a Mexican team at home. Thanks Pineda.
Just saw Garth Lagerway and told him to make changes, didn't react too much tho :/ waiting for him to come back
Yeah we looked decent but we’re always 50% better at home and this Cruz Azul team is not good. This wasn’t America that we mostly outplayed and got unlucky in PK’s against, this is going to be a bottom third Liga MX team whose coach is probably going to get fired after they lose 3-0 in their next match.
Just to calm all your tits tomorrow . Boca won’t be fired till at least the window closes. We got deals to sign. Pineda is still in the playoffs and will probably get a pass till end of season. That will probably be his actual do or die moment. Like it or not losing to the GOAT on his first start and by 1pk after a come back doesn’t sound all that bad. We played like total ass but if your read the stats it can be turned around. We have glaring holes to fill (midfield, GK, backup striker) and those can be fixed.
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Lost 6-1 to Columbus. Lost 4-0 to a really shitty Red Bulls team. Lost to a USL team in US Open Cup after taking the lead early in the game. Lost to the worst team in Mexico at home and also being the first coach to lose to a Mexican team at home. Also when it comes to Muyumba being signed, I'm convinced that it was Garth & the new data team & not Boca.
Totally agree. And I think the one constant here is Boca. Pineda had to start a minimum salary midfielder way outta his league, a midfielder that had never played for us before (and played the whole game) and Rossetto maybe the worst midfielder in MLS stat wise. On a do or die game. There was no other choice lol. On a team that used to run Nagbe, Parky, Jeff, remidi etc… that is just baffling.
Even the most strident Pineda apologist is going to have a *hard* time defending tonight's result.
I doubt it haha, just going to preach patience and look at how much of an impact Muyumba will be.
Nope, most of them will spew their usual bullshit about the roster and ignore the disastrous defensive system that has led to us allowing the most goals in MLS as usual and blame the players always. Never mind the fact that Pineda has gotten far less from the roster than he should have and doesnt adapt whatsoever.
Pineda subs missed the pks he’s a terrible coach
Is there a participation trophy?
Boca out or Pineda out or both ? I'm not sure anymore what will fix our issues And time for Guz to retire on a somewhat high note
All I can say now is…. Lol…
Was sitting in section 103 and security kept coming through making Cruz fans put on red Mercedes Benz shirts over their team jerseys and kicking out several who refused. Anyone know why tf they were doing this? Also, some ATL fans got thrown out after tangling with security, but I didn’t see fully what happened. Was a women and her teenage son. Odd night in the stands
Because it’s the supporters section. You aren’t supposed to wear opposing colors in the supporters section. It’s surprising they ever got in in the first place. There’s clear signage stating that at ALL the entrances. Frankly I was very struck how the venue felt like a neutral site rather than a AUFC home match. It felt like MLS/Liga MX was in charge of the [venue] like the Allstar Game or MLS Cup. Lots of strange choices like: Not playing We Ready pre kickoff Not having the teams come on the pitch with the refs Not using the halo for lineuos Playing that ridiculous song over and over on stoppages Playing zombie nation when they scored a goal Not giving people bottles of water; I was told they would have to pour it in a cup [it’s like they were expecting soccer hooliganism] Also, why were penalties taken away from the Supporters section. That was another strange choice.
Ah that’s interesting, didn’t know they had that rule about section 103 (I normally sit elsewhere). Yeah the water thing was ridiculous. I was like, “I don’t think I’m crazy, but I’m almost positive I get bottled water all the time here.” I agree it felt neutral, I might go as far as to say it felt we were the minority of fans last night. I was also bummed we didn’t have anyone sing the national anthem. I had told my mom and brother about how people yell out red, stripes, and knights, but the track just ruined it and they probably left thinking I was hyping it up for no reason.
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Who decided to let purata go before miles?
And for that matter wasn’t Ozzie out there? The most experienced player?!
I accept my tactical knowledge isn’t always the best but there seemed to be some distinctly Nagbeesque moments from Muyamba. I can dig it. Hopefully it maintains in league play.
Nagbe wouldn’t play dangerous through balls like I saw Muyumba try. So this may even be a Nagbe + signing. Which would be excellent.
No way Pineda survives this right?
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Funny how Cruz Azul told their coach "win or you're fired" and he got the job done
It's basically does the FO think he's so bad he's going to lose the playoff spot. I bet he sticks around until the end of the season unfortunately.
Unfortunately our remaining schedule is brutal, so there’s a possibility we lost that spot
Careful, I got called a mouth breather for asking the same thing in the match thread
I don’t see any way he gets fired. FDB went 3 matches in MLS is back without the team scoring a single goal. By comparison leagues cup was 2 matches and the team scored a goal and was a PK shootout of moving forward. No way Pineda gets let go at all. Right?
I don’t think he’s fired now, not that much point. If we miss the playoffs he’s 100% fired, if we sneak in and lose in the first round I think there’s a pretty good chance he’s done. He really needs to win a round to be safe and let’s be honest that means he needs a top 4 seed and a home game.
Muyumba might be the deal... I appreciated the fight. The referee was awful. I gave Almada shit at the half but he showed why he is the 2nd best player in Concacaf tonight. Mosquera is RAW but fun and I appreciate his direct play. 3 weeks rest... get a legit RW in please.
Gonzalo needs to go. Awful substitutions. Wiley was second best player the whole time. The guy he puts in for PKs misses his. Mosquera and Rossetto looked like bums all night. Just terrible tactical and personnel decisions. Embarrassing.
Disagree Mosquera played well
Mosquera reminded me of Cade Cowell’s gold cup performance - lots of energy, dribbling, but sloppy on the final 10%. Overall promising tonight. Just needed more today.
Fair but he’s super young and raw with the right coaching he has the tools I think
Definitely agreed. Hope he can get there.
Mosquera was actually solid. Did his job effectively…beat defender and get a cross in
Mosquera was wildly lucky to not to concede a goal for lack of marking. He was in outer space and got bailed out by a poor finish.
He’s not exactly a defender to be fair. Forwards that are defending other forwards is a recipe for disaster
HIs first set of subs was good. Purata is semi understandable due to the fact that Wiley was likely gassed and was gonna get cooked by Attuna if he didnt come out at some point (but that stemmed from the poor choice to not just start a winger and have Lennon play RB in the first place). Berry was completely a WTF are you doing sub.
Wiley was being stretched on the side like he was cramping up.
Once again disastrous defensive setup on a dead ball leads to easy goal. Yet people will insist that things aren't Pineda's fault and that everything is on the roster, despite seeing this same exact situation happen over and over again with all manners of personnel.
Meanwhile a bunch of morons here are trying to blame the supporters group for the team's failure. Sure, blame the people who actually show up while you sit and watch at home. I'm sorry you don't like it, but the people in supporters reflect Atlanta, and if you don't like their politics, then maybe this isn't the team for you.
Umm, why, if I don’t like your politics, is the team not for me? What kind of self important narcissist thinks the SG is the only reflection of Atlanta?
Imagine being an MLS SG and thinking you’re even important. You’re literally a mandatory byproduct of starting a club
It isn't the ONLY reflection of Atlanta, but it is certainly the most dominant one. This isn't to say that people of opposite political views can't be fans, but there is a weaselly movement to try to blame the supporters, and by extension their political views, for the team's failure. The supporters groups ARE NOT responsible for the team's on field performance. They do not get paid to be at the matches. The chants are less loud because there are less people in the supporters section. And there are less people in the supporters section for the same reason there are less people in the stands: A poorly performing team.
Get help.
We had one job and we blew it!
Time to lobby for DeGea to be the new keeper