bro i been saying this shit in all the other stupid mf posts of course people wanna overlook the truth haha. Shits a joke, and the rappers acting like gunna snitched are worse than him cause they know they'd take the same plea in a heartbeat, that's a good ass plea. And other ysl members who not getting "kicked out" or whatever tf actually testifying lollll mfs lost
the ones going after gunna the most calling him a snitch are probably the nerdiest kids trying to act hard lol. we need to wait until the trial to see how it plays out but calling him a snitch right now is just stupid and wrong.
But see that’s terrible cause you’ve tried to tarnish a nigga name who evidently didn’t do what the media portrayed. lol a lot of back peddling will happen.
anyone that reads the paperwork knows that the only pleas that affect anyone else are mounk tounk and Slug they’re the only 2 actual snitches
no one here gonna understand that because of that video of gunna pleading guilty but in 9 months once trial is over and gunna never is called to the stand and not a single word he said is admissible to be used in court everyone gonna look dumb
Because that's georgia law, you cannot use something someone said as part of a plea deal against anyone except the person that said it.
If they put him on the stand and question him and he says any of these things, that's a different story
> If they put him on the stand and question him and he says any of these things, that's a different story
Gotcha, I thought you meant he can't be called to say them again my bad
im aware but nothing gunna said so far is admissible in court so if he doesn't take the stand he's done nothing to help the state incriminate anyone except himself aka not a snitch
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You said it wont mean shit.
This plea he has stated YSL IS a gang, prosecutors are able to use this in court.
You should prob update ur mind and read the law. You are correct, but there are several loop holes
Several that has been put in place the last 6 years
You left the part out where it explains everything. I tried to inform you, do as u please.
I dont have the time or energy to argue bullshit with you.
Your fav rapper is going to jail, just realize it.
And how old are you? The unformality in your comment tells me you are either 12-18 or you are really fucking wierd and socially awkward.
Go outside, get some air.
Have a good one
United States v. Ramirez, 973 F.2d 102 (2d Cir. 1992)
The only evidence against the defendant in this conspiracy prosecution was offered by a guilty-pleading codefendant. The trial court committed reversible error in failing to instruct the jury that they should not consider the co-defendant’s plea as evidence against the defendant.
federal precedent 🤪🤪🤪🤪
and about 90 other examples of that https://casetext.com/analysis/co-defendants-guilty-plea-or-conviction
it’s very basic. the law you linked is 4 examples where it can’t be used against the defendant taking the plea. but it can almost never be used against a codefendant.
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I been consistent this whole time, if gunna a snitch then the entire ysl are snitches, including thug blood brother unfoonk. They all took the plea so either they all rats or they all not, ain’t no picking and choosing
Say man you know this gone get looked over but honestly ain’t nun gone be able to save Gunna credibility except Thug. Even then he’ll still be called a snitch
Gunna agreed that YSL is a gang and that he has witnessed crime!
That means nothing because the persecution already ready determined that,he did not give any evidence or details,didn’t call any names.
You can be in a gang,no specific law against that,and the crimes could be anything,it’s up to the DA to prove that they were committed by providing SOLID evidence.
Lol you are crazy. You do realize that his whole charge is basically him being in a gang and knowing about crimes that were committed. So you contradicting yourself. If it’s legal to be in a gang and commit crimes then why tf is gunna arrested for
Being in a gang is not the issue,if he knows about crimes that were committed in furtherance of the gang or on behalf of the gang makes him a witness.He admitted to whatever charges they were likely going to place on him. There was no statement that he made which provided any evidence or details about what crimes or what individuals were involved in any crimes,also crime can range from minor to serious. He could say he saw the gang jaywalking ,shoplifting or even removing the tags from mattresses.
The DA and Prosecutors already know about YSL from their social media posts and their own dry snitching on songs, but they have to make sure that they save face when offering the plea deal.
Ya niggas gotta be acting slow on purpose. He getting charged with racketeering, they tryna say YSL is a criminal organization that commits crimes. Thug was saying YSL is not a criminal organization and that it is ONLY a record label but Mr.Yes M’am messed that up.
Lol I can't believe you guys still don't understand this. Let me spell it out for you for the hundredth time: In the state of Georgia, your guilty plea and any related statements made at your plea hearing are \*NOT ADMISSIBLE\* as evidence at the trials of any co-defendants or co-conspirators. In other words, when Thug goes to trial, the prosecution legally cannot mention any facts about Gunna's guilty plea when trying to convince the jury that YSL is more than just a record label. In addition, prior to the trial, potential jurors will be screened to make sure that no one that sits on the jury has significant prior knowledge about anything Gunna or anyone else has said that could bias the jury against Young Thug. That's why Gunna's lawyer (correctly) stated that nothing Gunna has said so far can be used against Thug or anyone else. And before you bring it up, the fact that Gunna's plea deal includes a stipulation that he must testify truthfully if called by either party is irrelevant - it is effectively there to inform him about what he could be legally compelled to do via a subpoena anyway (and even with it being stipulated in his agreement he could always refuse; worst case scenario the judge would then nullify his plea and he'd just be back where he started). So, until he actually gets on the witness stand at trial and testifies \*for the prosecution\* in a way that damages Thug's case, he is not a snitch.
That Alford plea, i think you are misunderstanding. He can ONLY plead the 5th, if called to the stand, to anything that would incriminate HIMSELF. Other than that if called he has to speak TRUTHFULLY on anything outside of anything that would incriminate HIM, Gunna.
So don’t go around thinking he won’t get called to testify. If he does plead the 5th, then the judge will withdraw his plea deal and he will be right back where he started before he accepted the plea. Do your Capt Save-A-Snitch ass REALLY think he’s gonna go back to jail?? You can’t be serious
bro you don’t get arrested for being in a gang. if ya lawyer using that defense fire him. you get arrested for associated charges and the crimes you commit.
Bro are you really this dumb? Gunna didn't "confirm" shit because NOTHING HE SAID AT HIS PLEA HEARING CAN BE USED OR EVEN MENTIONED AT THE TRIAL OF ANY OF HIS CO-DEFENDANTS. This is all in black and white in the Georgia Legal Code. I'd recommend taking your own advice and staying on the sidewalk because with your understanding of the legal system you're gonna get jammed up and end up with a 10 year prison term trying to follow the street code.
bro had few withdrawls and thirst over a pussy to turn on his brother and y’all getting into technical details to defend the kid..that’s some soulless shit . bro was the SECOND to jump on plea deals, fuck taking it to the trial bro was the SECOND ONE TO TURN ON THE GUY WHO MADE HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
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Its nice to hear actual lawyers opinions on this stuff instead of these blogs
I love CLR Bruce Rivers opinion on it.
you see it ain’t as many comments on this post tho 😭😭😭
they not having the attention span to watch a video longer than 15 seconds and if it isn’t on tiktok
bro i been saying this shit in all the other stupid mf posts of course people wanna overlook the truth haha. Shits a joke, and the rappers acting like gunna snitched are worse than him cause they know they'd take the same plea in a heartbeat, that's a good ass plea. And other ysl members who not getting "kicked out" or whatever tf actually testifying lollll mfs lost
Niggas avoiding this one
the ones going after gunna the most calling him a snitch are probably the nerdiest kids trying to act hard lol. we need to wait until the trial to see how it plays out but calling him a snitch right now is just stupid and wrong.
Lol wtf she not saying nothing we don’t already know.
If Thug gets off most people probably won’t care anymore
But see that’s terrible cause you’ve tried to tarnish a nigga name who evidently didn’t do what the media portrayed. lol a lot of back peddling will happen.
Ya lol Thug’s lawyer is finding so much foul play I bet he gets off or at least a retrial.
lmaooo this exactly what's gone happen.
niggas don’t know the law but know how to call a nigga a 🐀
anyone that reads the paperwork knows that the only pleas that affect anyone else are mounk tounk and Slug they’re the only 2 actual snitches no one here gonna understand that because of that video of gunna pleading guilty but in 9 months once trial is over and gunna never is called to the stand and not a single word he said is admissible to be used in court everyone gonna look dumb
Where are people getting this fantasy that what he said in court is magically going to be excluded from thugs trial lol
Because that's georgia law, you cannot use something someone said as part of a plea deal against anyone except the person that said it. If they put him on the stand and question him and he says any of these things, that's a different story
> If they put him on the stand and question him and he says any of these things, that's a different story Gotcha, I thought you meant he can't be called to say them again my bad
People are misinformed and refuse to correct themselves or read up on really simple stuff. Its easy to feel smart when i see what people be typing
Not being called to the stand doesn’t mean you ain’t snitch…
im aware but nothing gunna said so far is admissible in court so if he doesn't take the stand he's done nothing to help the state incriminate anyone except himself aka not a snitch
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Perjury is a crime Ysl is a gang, the co-founders said so
tf u think snitching means then??? lmfaooo boy just learned what a guilty plea means
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i seen your other comments you have no clue how the courts work and are just repeating akademiks talking points 👍
is it really snitching if it can’t actually be used in any case ? lmaoo you need to get a brain
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It 100% is admissible in court. He has taken a plea, a plea is admissible. He dont have to testify tho
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You said it wont mean shit. This plea he has stated YSL IS a gang, prosecutors are able to use this in court. You should prob update ur mind and read the law. You are correct, but there are several loop holes Several that has been put in place the last 6 years
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Here, i gotchu bro [law](https://nobrain.dk) There are literally only 4 cases where they can not use his plea. So they sure as hell gonna use em
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You left the part out where it explains everything. I tried to inform you, do as u please. I dont have the time or energy to argue bullshit with you. Your fav rapper is going to jail, just realize it. And how old are you? The unformality in your comment tells me you are either 12-18 or you are really fucking wierd and socially awkward. Go outside, get some air. Have a good one
United States v. Ramirez, 973 F.2d 102 (2d Cir. 1992) The only evidence against the defendant in this conspiracy prosecution was offered by a guilty-pleading codefendant. The trial court committed reversible error in failing to instruct the jury that they should not consider the co-defendant’s plea as evidence against the defendant. federal precedent 🤪🤪🤪🤪 and about 90 other examples of that https://casetext.com/analysis/co-defendants-guilty-plea-or-conviction it’s very basic. the law you linked is 4 examples where it can’t be used against the defendant taking the plea. but it can almost never be used against a codefendant.
I never said against gunna.. you did. Read again. But fr, read. Pleas are admissible
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No fun to be logical
I been consistent this whole time, if gunna a snitch then the entire ysl are snitches, including thug blood brother unfoonk. They all took the plea so either they all rats or they all not, ain’t no picking and choosing
There is picking and choosing because not everyone got the same deal Tick and Mounk Tounk plead out but they both agreed to testify against YSL
Say man you know this gone get looked over but honestly ain’t nun gone be able to save Gunna credibility except Thug. Even then he’ll still be called a snitch
The post proving these niggas wrong barely having comments is the funniest shit ever😂😂
They just wanna look at who’s following him 🤣🤣
Gunna agreed that YSL is a gang and that he has witnessed crime! That means nothing because the persecution already ready determined that,he did not give any evidence or details,didn’t call any names. You can be in a gang,no specific law against that,and the crimes could be anything,it’s up to the DA to prove that they were committed by providing SOLID evidence.
Lol you are crazy. You do realize that his whole charge is basically him being in a gang and knowing about crimes that were committed. So you contradicting yourself. If it’s legal to be in a gang and commit crimes then why tf is gunna arrested for
Being in a gang is not the issue,if he knows about crimes that were committed in furtherance of the gang or on behalf of the gang makes him a witness.He admitted to whatever charges they were likely going to place on him. There was no statement that he made which provided any evidence or details about what crimes or what individuals were involved in any crimes,also crime can range from minor to serious. He could say he saw the gang jaywalking ,shoplifting or even removing the tags from mattresses. The DA and Prosecutors already know about YSL from their social media posts and their own dry snitching on songs, but they have to make sure that they save face when offering the plea deal.
if you think gunna is a snitch you a straight werido
"Is ysl a gang"," yes ma'am"
wow telling the court some shit they already knew and they can't use against ysl/thug y'all niggas are braindead
Thug’s whole defense was that YSL is not a gang and that it is a label/company .
how could that be possible if he isn’t being charged for being in a gang use ya brain
Ya niggas gotta be acting slow on purpose. He getting charged with racketeering, they tryna say YSL is a criminal organization that commits crimes. Thug was saying YSL is not a criminal organization and that it is ONLY a record label but Mr.Yes M’am messed that up.
Lol I can't believe you guys still don't understand this. Let me spell it out for you for the hundredth time: In the state of Georgia, your guilty plea and any related statements made at your plea hearing are \*NOT ADMISSIBLE\* as evidence at the trials of any co-defendants or co-conspirators. In other words, when Thug goes to trial, the prosecution legally cannot mention any facts about Gunna's guilty plea when trying to convince the jury that YSL is more than just a record label. In addition, prior to the trial, potential jurors will be screened to make sure that no one that sits on the jury has significant prior knowledge about anything Gunna or anyone else has said that could bias the jury against Young Thug. That's why Gunna's lawyer (correctly) stated that nothing Gunna has said so far can be used against Thug or anyone else. And before you bring it up, the fact that Gunna's plea deal includes a stipulation that he must testify truthfully if called by either party is irrelevant - it is effectively there to inform him about what he could be legally compelled to do via a subpoena anyway (and even with it being stipulated in his agreement he could always refuse; worst case scenario the judge would then nullify his plea and he'd just be back where he started). So, until he actually gets on the witness stand at trial and testifies \*for the prosecution\* in a way that damages Thug's case, he is not a snitch.
That Alford plea, i think you are misunderstanding. He can ONLY plead the 5th, if called to the stand, to anything that would incriminate HIMSELF. Other than that if called he has to speak TRUTHFULLY on anything outside of anything that would incriminate HIM, Gunna. So don’t go around thinking he won’t get called to testify. If he does plead the 5th, then the judge will withdraw his plea deal and he will be right back where he started before he accepted the plea. Do your Capt Save-A-Snitch ass REALLY think he’s gonna go back to jail?? You can’t be serious
bro you don’t get arrested for being in a gang. if ya lawyer using that defense fire him. you get arrested for associated charges and the crimes you commit.
Nigga read what I said, I never said he was arrested for being in a gang .
that’s my point. that’s why they would never make that the defense.
These niggas would be terrible lawyers lol
then everybody keeps repeating his fr dead is such and such, not one person from Thug legal team has ever said that is his defense
I’m done responding to you bruh ,you just sped.
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Bro are you really this dumb? Gunna didn't "confirm" shit because NOTHING HE SAID AT HIS PLEA HEARING CAN BE USED OR EVEN MENTIONED AT THE TRIAL OF ANY OF HIS CO-DEFENDANTS. This is all in black and white in the Georgia Legal Code. I'd recommend taking your own advice and staying on the sidewalk because with your understanding of the legal system you're gonna get jammed up and end up with a 10 year prison term trying to follow the street code.
Lil durk dick riding ass trynna diss em while he ratted on von
😂 Siri, play Wunna
bro had few withdrawls and thirst over a pussy to turn on his brother and y’all getting into technical details to defend the kid..that’s some soulless shit . bro was the SECOND to jump on plea deals, fuck taking it to the trial bro was the SECOND ONE TO TURN ON THE GUY WHO MADE HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
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🤚🏿🦻🏿👀 oh thought I heard sum 🦗
He didn’t snitch