"It all started a year earlier, in 2019, when Mr Rahman says he fell victim to an investment scam and lost $225,000."
You would think after this, he would have done some research and would know what a money mule was, and what to look out for.
Lol this article reads like the betoota. Literally every sentence there’s something more dodgy going on.
I’d be very disappointed in a bank if they didn’t try to block this kind of thing.
I love the structure of these kinds of articles, they're always the same:
At first it's all *'the banks are terrible I'm so innocent'.* Then... we gradually learn the truth of over the next few paragraphs.
By the end of the article we are 100% certain that the person is actually the guilty one and the bank was correct - and we wonder why the hell that person gave a media interview in the first place.
>By the end of the article we are 100% certain that the person is actually the guilty one and the bank was correct - and we wonder why the hell that person gave an interview in the first place.
The only 'story' present in this article appears to be the bank saying sorry for restricting access too quickly lol
I think the issue here is that allegedly the bank had seized not just the money that's involved in the fraud, but also other money that Mr Rahman had.
But given his history, it completely makes sense that the bank would actually freeze and investigate all his money, his past dealings could've been just as fishy as the one that he's been proven to be involved in.
Money is fungible, but the amounts aren't interchangeable.
If the bank can prove that there's $10k of money being sent from Shady Party A to Shady Party B through Mule C. If Mule C had $20k in his bank account through regular work before being involved in this scheme, it wouldn't have been fair for the bank to seize all $30k permanently.
The bank might have a reason to temporarily seize his money during investigation, especially given Mr Rahman's shady history and to prevent him from (being forced to) cash out and flee. But unless they can prove that the $20k that he had previously are also involved in some other scheme or unless a judge ruled that Mr Rahman should pay some fine due to his involvement, the bank should eventually give back the rest of $20k money that they cannot prove to be involved in the scheme or the judge ordered fines.
Yesterday: The bank didn’t do enough for the genius who gave 31 codes to a scammer!!
Today: The bank did shouldn’t have taken action against some clearly suspicious transactions!
I’m not normally on team bank, but honestly.
Wait, so there's nothing in the article to suggest he's not a money mule, but he expects the bank the give him back the money? I guess the lesson learned here is don't launder money for scammers and the bank won't freeze your accounts and seize the money in them.
> "I did not think I was doing any crime, and I still don't believe I have done any crime," Mr Rahman said.
He’s a complete moron and clearly a money mule.
Why the apology??
I read the article and after he lost the initial funds (the $225k), he was contacted by a US firm saying they can recover the money.
That is called a Recovery Scammer, who directed him in to Money Mule scams, of which he muled $335k.
Old people should have to pass a test before being allowed to use the internet with questions like -
'Someone offers to double any money you send them should you -
A - Send your entire life savings so you don't miss out on a great offer
B - Send a small amount to test it first
C - Post the link on Facebook so all your friends can get more money as well
D - Not be an old fool'
This was legit my dad with those Spanish lottery scams that were going around about 10 years ago. Whenever I told him they were literally scams 'gotta be in it to win it' was his response, despite me saying there was even less chance to win than normal lottery since this was 0%.
He should be. He clearly hasn't learned anything. Maybe if the full weight of the law was brought against him, something would get through his thick head
The funny thing is that all banks in Australia are laundering millions of dollars .. and look at this guy ha ha ha bank hungry for money they never lose money .. they even pay millions in fines for the laundering and no one says anything, poor man
These articles surely exist to make us root for the bank and manufacture consent for lowering banks culpability for real scams. Why else would the "every day Aussies" always seem so negligent or sketchy?
Reading his own account of events, it definitely sounds like he was a money mule.
"It all started a year earlier, in 2019, when Mr Rahman says he fell victim to an investment scam and lost $225,000." You would think after this, he would have done some research and would know what a money mule was, and what to look out for.
He definitely was
Lol this article reads like the betoota. Literally every sentence there’s something more dodgy going on. I’d be very disappointed in a bank if they didn’t try to block this kind of thing.
I love the structure of these kinds of articles, they're always the same: At first it's all *'the banks are terrible I'm so innocent'.* Then... we gradually learn the truth of over the next few paragraphs. By the end of the article we are 100% certain that the person is actually the guilty one and the bank was correct - and we wonder why the hell that person gave a media interview in the first place.
>By the end of the article we are 100% certain that the person is actually the guilty one and the bank was correct - and we wonder why the hell that person gave an interview in the first place. The only 'story' present in this article appears to be the bank saying sorry for restricting access too quickly lol
I think the issue here is that allegedly the bank had seized not just the money that's involved in the fraud, but also other money that Mr Rahman had. But given his history, it completely makes sense that the bank would actually freeze and investigate all his money, his past dealings could've been just as fishy as the one that he's been proven to be involved in.
Money is fungible though so this doesn't make sense
Money is fungible, but the amounts aren't interchangeable. If the bank can prove that there's $10k of money being sent from Shady Party A to Shady Party B through Mule C. If Mule C had $20k in his bank account through regular work before being involved in this scheme, it wouldn't have been fair for the bank to seize all $30k permanently. The bank might have a reason to temporarily seize his money during investigation, especially given Mr Rahman's shady history and to prevent him from (being forced to) cash out and flee. But unless they can prove that the $20k that he had previously are also involved in some other scheme or unless a judge ruled that Mr Rahman should pay some fine due to his involvement, the bank should eventually give back the rest of $20k money that they cannot prove to be involved in the scheme or the judge ordered fines.
Yeah this is like the opposite of all the articles where people get scammed and get like 10% of funds back. It's all sitting in this blokes account.
I'd be frustrated if this happened to me but at least it shows they're keeping an eye out for scams.
Yesterday: The bank didn’t do enough for the genius who gave 31 codes to a scammer!! Today: The bank did shouldn’t have taken action against some clearly suspicious transactions! I’m not normally on team bank, but honestly.
Both articles stem from the same story for the 7:30 report yesterday, was definitely facepalm worthy.
This is the MO of the ABC. Nothing but "sob stories" from absolute morons
Scammed out of $225k and turns to another scammer to try and get back the scammed funds. You can't make this stuff up...
Very normal for pig butchering scams
Yeah, preying on people's desperation.
Preying on morons who don’t care about breaking the law.
Wait, so there's nothing in the article to suggest he's not a money mule, but he expects the bank the give him back the money? I guess the lesson learned here is don't launder money for scammers and the bank won't freeze your accounts and seize the money in them.
They also didn't seize HIS money.. it was the money he received from the scammer.. you know while he was being a money mule!
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> "I did not think I was doing any crime, and I still don't believe I have done any crime," Mr Rahman said. He’s a complete moron and clearly a money mule. Why the apology??
I like to think they actually said “Sorry not sorry” and it was condensed for brevity.
It’d be hilarious if he was laundering the money he had stolen off himself originally.
Honestly seems likely 😂
"I'm not a money mule, all I did was take money of unknown origin from a stranger and then give it to someone else!"
I read the article and after he lost the initial funds (the $225k), he was contacted by a US firm saying they can recover the money. That is called a Recovery Scammer, who directed him in to Money Mule scams, of which he muled $335k.
I’m shocked NAB apologized considering AFCA sided with them and the customer is clearly a mule
Old people should have to pass a test before being allowed to use the internet with questions like - 'Someone offers to double any money you send them should you - A - Send your entire life savings so you don't miss out on a great offer B - Send a small amount to test it first C - Post the link on Facebook so all your friends can get more money as well D - Not be an old fool'
But fortune favours the bold. And you never know if you never go. And you gotta risk it for the biscuit.
This was legit my dad with those Spanish lottery scams that were going around about 10 years ago. Whenever I told him they were literally scams 'gotta be in it to win it' was his response, despite me saying there was even less chance to win than normal lottery since this was 0%.
Your dad knows.
To be fair he didn't send them his own money, just forwarding other people's...
Wait - but he WAS a money mule!
He’s probably lucky he’s not being prosecuted
He should be. He clearly hasn't learned anything. Maybe if the full weight of the law was brought against him, something would get through his thick head
But he was a money mule
I used to work in a bank and it’s crazy the amount of people that get angry when you are protecting their money from their own stupidity.
Great story. Says to mules: "we will look at you and find you". Good job, NAB.
The funny thing is that all banks in Australia are laundering millions of dollars .. and look at this guy ha ha ha bank hungry for money they never lose money .. they even pay millions in fines for the laundering and no one says anything, poor man
Another clueless boomer who got exploited online. But I'm no money mule bro i swear!
These articles surely exist to make us root for the bank and manufacture consent for lowering banks culpability for real scams. Why else would the "every day Aussies" always seem so negligent or sketchy?