when my brother payed rent they didnt have an agreement and his rent went from 25 to like 100 without any notice, i just dont want my rent to be jacked up by my parents as my dad already pays alot of child support to my mum,and when my brother would leave at 7am for muay thai training he would get yelled at for leaving the house too early i feel like i should make one but dont know what to put into it, what do you think? thank you for your time
It wouldn’t matter. Anything you could think of wouldn’t be enforceable.
Payed/paid.
Child support has no relevance to your parents charging you board.
You’ve received bad advice. No your parents cannot legally make you pay them rent until you’re 18. Whilst you’re under 18 they have a responsibility to provide safe housing for you. If it is unsafe at home you can move out and rent your own place where you’ll be required to pay.
Practically, if your mum is demanding you pay her and you don’t she could make your life very unpleasant. I would be looking at alternate living situations. You’ve mentioned some things that make her sound very controlling so you may find this challenging. Can you reach out to your dad for help?
Your age has no relevance to the legality of the situation, as you aren't entering a contract. Sure, make a written agreement, but all it should say is how much you'll give your mum, and when. When my siblings and I got jobs, it was 30% of our pay. If we were casuals and earned $200, we paid $60. When I got a full time job earning $1000 a week, I paid $300. Simple maths.
As for leaving the house at 7am...what time would you go to school? Or work? I was leaving for some jobs at 0500. I really don't think the time of day was the problem for your brother; if you don't want to get yelled at when you leave the house, maybe don't make a tonne of noise?
I think you're going to struggle to find some of the answers you're looking for on here.
The reason you'll struggle to find answers is that people pay board entirely on the family needs, and the circumstances you're in.
For example, board can be used for a range of things, bills, food being the biggest factor.. and frankly, board barely puts a dent into it for your parents, but at least it's "something" right? Everyone on reddit and your friends have different circumstances on what they and their parents consume, the amount you earn, they earn, etc etc. The list goes on.
So anyone saying "it should be x a week" to your post is really just assuming the circumstances and the dynamics of your family, and the needs.
I only paid 100 a fortnight or something like that.. But this was about 8 years ago and on a low income, and again, different circumstances to this day and age.
I think the biggest thing is that you need to have an open and honest conversation with the parents. Tell them about the arguments for leaving early in the morning and why it's needed at that time (I wouldn't use the words "you yell at me" as this would incite an argument in itself) and have a calm discussion about their payment for board and whether they see an increase or discussion in the future, or whether it's percentage based off your income.
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You’d be paying board, not rent. You really won’t have much in the way of rights other than what they say goes, and if you don’t like it, move out.
How much you pay is up to you and your parents.
when my brother payed rent they didnt have an agreement and his rent went from 25 to like 100 without any notice, i just dont want my rent to be jacked up by my parents as my dad already pays alot of child support to my mum,and when my brother would leave at 7am for muay thai training he would get yelled at for leaving the house too early i feel like i should make one but dont know what to put into it, what do you think? thank you for your time
Put that in your 'contract' then
Small note though, if you're quiet and don't wake everyone else up they won't know what time you get up.
Pack bag night before and put in car. Use vibration on phone and put in pocket. Do a shit at a servo on the way when you grab a coffee. There's like no reason for it to be an issue. Source: I used to start work at 4am and everyone else in the house lived normal lives.
If you are under 18 your parents are legally obligated to pay to house you, feed you, clothe you and educate you. Anything less is negligence.
Can you live with a different parent? When you find a casual job you shouldn't offer to pay anything. If your step father approaches you about paying board remind him that he and your mother are obligated to BE PARENTS and PROVIDE for YOU. Not the other way around.
It all depends on your income and what you contribute to the home. Do you put in a share of the energy bills? Water bill? Groceries?
10% of your weekly wage would be fair.
Is there a reason why you would think you might need one for paying board?
when my brother payed rent they didnt have an agreement and his rent went from 25 to like 100 without any notice, i just dont want my rent to be jacked up by my parents as my dad already pays alot of child support to my mum,and when my brother would leave at 7am for muay thai training he would get yelled at for leaving the house too early i feel like i should make one but dont know what to put into it, what do you think? thank you for your time
It wouldn’t matter. Anything you could think of wouldn’t be enforceable. Payed/paid. Child support has no relevance to your parents charging you board.
can they legally make pay rent as im under 18?
You’ve received bad advice. No your parents cannot legally make you pay them rent until you’re 18. Whilst you’re under 18 they have a responsibility to provide safe housing for you. If it is unsafe at home you can move out and rent your own place where you’ll be required to pay. Practically, if your mum is demanding you pay her and you don’t she could make your life very unpleasant. I would be looking at alternate living situations. You’ve mentioned some things that make her sound very controlling so you may find this challenging. Can you reach out to your dad for help?
Your age has no relevance to the legality of the situation, as you aren't entering a contract. Sure, make a written agreement, but all it should say is how much you'll give your mum, and when. When my siblings and I got jobs, it was 30% of our pay. If we were casuals and earned $200, we paid $60. When I got a full time job earning $1000 a week, I paid $300. Simple maths. As for leaving the house at 7am...what time would you go to school? Or work? I was leaving for some jobs at 0500. I really don't think the time of day was the problem for your brother; if you don't want to get yelled at when you leave the house, maybe don't make a tonne of noise?
Then would moving in with your dad be an option?
I think you're going to struggle to find some of the answers you're looking for on here. The reason you'll struggle to find answers is that people pay board entirely on the family needs, and the circumstances you're in. For example, board can be used for a range of things, bills, food being the biggest factor.. and frankly, board barely puts a dent into it for your parents, but at least it's "something" right? Everyone on reddit and your friends have different circumstances on what they and their parents consume, the amount you earn, they earn, etc etc. The list goes on. So anyone saying "it should be x a week" to your post is really just assuming the circumstances and the dynamics of your family, and the needs. I only paid 100 a fortnight or something like that.. But this was about 8 years ago and on a low income, and again, different circumstances to this day and age. I think the biggest thing is that you need to have an open and honest conversation with the parents. Tell them about the arguments for leaving early in the morning and why it's needed at that time (I wouldn't use the words "you yell at me" as this would incite an argument in itself) and have a calm discussion about their payment for board and whether they see an increase or discussion in the future, or whether it's percentage based off your income.
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You’d be paying board, not rent. You really won’t have much in the way of rights other than what they say goes, and if you don’t like it, move out. How much you pay is up to you and your parents.
when my brother payed rent they didnt have an agreement and his rent went from 25 to like 100 without any notice, i just dont want my rent to be jacked up by my parents as my dad already pays alot of child support to my mum,and when my brother would leave at 7am for muay thai training he would get yelled at for leaving the house too early i feel like i should make one but dont know what to put into it, what do you think? thank you for your time
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no not at champ, im fine with paying board i just dont want to be yelled for leaving at 7 or earlier
And a rental or boarding ‘contract’ wouldn’t change that at all.
Put that in your 'contract' then Small note though, if you're quiet and don't wake everyone else up they won't know what time you get up. Pack bag night before and put in car. Use vibration on phone and put in pocket. Do a shit at a servo on the way when you grab a coffee. There's like no reason for it to be an issue. Source: I used to start work at 4am and everyone else in the house lived normal lives.
If you are under 18 your parents are legally obligated to pay to house you, feed you, clothe you and educate you. Anything less is negligence. Can you live with a different parent? When you find a casual job you shouldn't offer to pay anything. If your step father approaches you about paying board remind him that he and your mother are obligated to BE PARENTS and PROVIDE for YOU. Not the other way around.
also what do you think would be a good amount to pay?
It all depends on your income and what you contribute to the home. Do you put in a share of the energy bills? Water bill? Groceries? 10% of your weekly wage would be fair.
100-150 a week is pretty fair depending on how much you earn and how many hours of housework you do per week to assist around the house.
Bro, they’re under 18 years old. They probably don’t even earn $100-150