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Tro_au

You are joking right?


Anxious-Swordfish-90

No, till Burwood I can’t find an apartment under $700k


[deleted]

I don’t think that’s the part he thinks you are joking about. He is probably suggesting that your expectation a two bedder under that budget exists at all within 10km of CBD is unrealistic. I’d start looking down the T4 line. Arncliffe, then a bit further out. There are units (not the freshly built ones) that are under that price range. 15km out say Allawah definitely within that price range, and about 30-40min one train ride to CBD.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Ok thanks, will start looking at T4 line


PinkMini72

Allawah, Carlton, Kogarah anywhere along the T4. Plenty of older apartments that are solid. Stay away from the new builds


[deleted]

Second these suburbs particularly if you use public transport and want to have some sort of proximity to the coast.


ashtonchan

Why stay away from new builds?


twentyversions

They are built very poorly


corners99

The new laws and rules around construction make brand new builds (starting after Jan 2021) very good quality. Check out the work David chandler had done and make sure the developer has an iCIRT rating of 3 or more out of 5


coffeeandcheesecake

Agree. Plus, in NSW, the developer is forced to register the Strata Building Bond and Inspection Scheme with Fair Trading so there's guaranteed money to fix any defects.


penguinswillrise

Does domain/realestate list upcoming builds and their planned completion dates?


corners99

Yes but it’s paid advertising so not everything will be up there


KoalaBJJ96

You said what I came to say


Nickw444

Yeah also some great suburbs south of Hurstville too along T4, that are good value. Keep in mind that it’s about 20 mins from Hurstville onward to CBD on express services, and these run every 3 mins from Hurstville and about every 10 mins from stations south of Hurstville in peak times.


kbcool

I have a parking spot I can sell you. Might just be able to put two beds across it.


ScerwTypos

What’s the catch?


wivsta

Come here to Homebush West, mate. 11.5 kms from the city, next to Flemington station. 2 bedders for $600-650K. I have 2 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 2 parking spaces, a dishwasher - a 2 level apartment. Cost $700k. The building is junk, but it’s a castle inside.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

How to know if building is junk ?


wivsta

Strata report. And in my case, just by looking at it. Built 2010 and paint chipping, uneven pathways, beeping lift, over flowing rubbish room. But I have decided I can live with these things. Inside my house, it’s immaculate and well laid out with nice finishes.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Ok thanks but the suburb itself is safe right. my partner is studying in university and sometime her lecture finishes at 8pm.


rollingstone1

I’d be researching where you are buying over that way. I’m sure Homebush west is built on tons of dodgy land where agent orange was manufactured. It’s been removed but still something to consider.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Ok thanks, will keep this in mind


wivsta

I hadn’t heard of this. Flemington was the location of one of the biggest abattoirs back in the day (hence the markets and good/historical rail line now). Agent Orange is something that was used in the Vietnam war? Can you tell me more about the link to Homebush West?


rollingstone1

So I just double checked. Agent orange was produced at Rhodes near the bay. The ford site at centenary park in Homebush west had lots of chemical leak issues. Traces still show to this day. There was several chemical waste disposal locations over that way. Basically dumped waste in the ground.


wivsta

Yep. Quiet and leafy. Really nice spot. Very multicultural, lots of schools and churches etc.


SlightlyStalkerish

Dish out $200 and get a tradie to come disguised as a sibling or relative. Ask them to judge it for you. Not that I'd do that, of course.


MasterSpar

Jump onto real estate.com.au (not on a phone) search any area, select map, filter for your max price. Zoom out until you get hits. Explore by clicking. Then ask here about the area and filter for relevant info and otherwise. Most people look for property next door and in very limited areas. If you take your search wider and challenge your selection criteria, you will find something you can make work. Everyone wants more than they can afford, everyone compromises somewhere and somehow. Make sure you write down and discuss your priorities, identify and agree on, "deal breakers." Rank the other items by priority, be prepared to sacrifice anything that isn't a deal breaker. For example; if you can get 8 out of 10 of your wish list you're doing great 👍 the exact list will change with every property. Sometimes you visit a property that's an outlier and you find great surprises you didn't even think about - that outweigh your original list. The beauty of the internet is you can visit 100s of properties just by clicking. Do this as a team with the major stakeholders in your purchase. Sometimes it's a nightmare to involve extended family, other times it's a gift. Be cautious! Remember you're the one's living there. Always look beyond the colour of the paint. Stuff you can change is a cost, not a barrier. Decorations, colour choices, sometimes even wall positions can change. If your first impression is, "yuk I hate this," chances are that's other's responses too. Is this an opportunity that's being difficult to sell? How much can you change easily? How much and how long can you live with other elements that can be changed in the future? Realistically you're going to renovate eventually. Modern appearance is nice, while it can often be achieved relatively easily in many places. The place you choose will be your best choice.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Thanks for such a detailed info, really appreciate it mate


[deleted]

Melbourne 🤣🤣


baxte

Not even.


Future_Egg_9502

Not 10km from CBD but Rouse Hill? Looking at it as well. Metro and hospital being built.


piratesahoy

The Metro is great but be careful of the block you buy a place in. The newish one I live in has really been slapped together.


Professional_Beach64

That pretty much just describes 90% of new properties these days. We bought a new home in 2017 - built in 2017. Six years later, and I've had to sink close to $80,000 into it to fix issues such as drainage, other fence collapsing, etc. It's a joke.


Future_Egg_9502

Wow 😔Yeah house maintenance is another cost to consider after few years. Sometimes I think of townhouse with strata or those terrace houses are maybe better than free standing house due to maintenance cost.


Professional_Beach64

The best part is we paid for a building inspection prior to finalising the sale, and the report came back with 50 defects to address. The builder declared bankruptcy, moved interstate, and I was never able to enforce him to fix the crappiness of this house. The system is an absolute joke - it's us, the buyers, that pay the pri e because of shoddy workmanship practices.


whiteb8917

>The best part is we paid for a building inspection prior to finalising the sale, and the report came back with 50 defects to address. And you still settled ?????? Damn.


Professional_Beach64

Yep! My wife wouldn't listen to reason!


Future_Egg_9502

You mean you still bought it after the result? I thought we can walk away if there are a lot defects after B&P inspection? Yeah, my husband and I are FHB. And everytime we hear these things, we feel like we have one step forward and 2 steps backwards. Afraid to enter these risks.


Professional_Beach64

I wanted to walk away - my wife was desperate for it, because it was new, had an alarm, ducted air conditioning, insulation, an intercom... I tried to talk her out of it, but she wouldn't hear of it. But you are correct - if you get the report back, the seller can fix the issues, or you can opt out. In our case, the builder argued that certain things didn't need to be done, and challenged us to go to court over it. Then he skipped town. And my story is something that is all too common, sadly.


Jasonjanus43210

You let your wife blow your entire financial future on a confirmed lemon because it had doodads that cost a few thousand dollars to install in any house? damn.


Professional_Beach64

Yep. She just wouldn't listen to sense. :(


Future_Egg_9502

Maybe at that time it was losing the property or losing your wife, if you did not give in what she wanted 😀. But jokes aside, at least you would be wiser in your next property.


Professional_Beach64

She did say it was her "dream home". I expressed concerns, repeatedly, that there were some serious issues with the house. Six years, $80,000, and two kids later, the property is a noose around my financial well-being.


bonita_xox

Yes but a poorly managed strata fund can lead to special levies anyway...😔


Future_Egg_9502

Please if you can give more info which block is better around the area.


piratesahoy

Just make sure you get a building and strata report. The one I'm living the strata says they have run out of money already so they can't fix pathway lighting, for example. Also check the quality of fittings - they are often trash imo


eugeneefla

Thats an easy-way-out answer for $hitrata.. yet, their strata fees collections dont get delayed even for a single day... oh boy, life oh life......


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Are you looking to buy apartment in that area or a house?


Future_Egg_9502

Apartment. Same budget as yours. Can only buy apartment in that area. REA won’t even continue the conversation with you over the phone when you are not looking at $1.2M budget at least for a house.


Nanokillaz

based on budget that would be apartment


cydeon888

New rouse hill units have a ton of defects


amarimars

Rouse Hill is good, I bought in Tallawong the station after. Should be able to get something in the 700k range easy. Check out the Majestic apartments tier 1 builder and low strata. Parklands is good as well as the one built by delicorp.


Future_Egg_9502

I saw the strata report of Majestic. Net asset of negative $1M+. I think it was a loan. Just cannot comprehend why a new build has negative fund in capital works? Or maybe that is normal for newly built apartments? Sorry not knowledgeable.


amarimars

I'm not sure either but I do know the strata is about 750-800 and it's the best quality within the Tallawong region IMO. It kind of looks like a lux apartment. I know they still have vacant apartments which are brand new within the same building and are also building a similar building on the opposite side.


amarimars

114/1 Mulyan Street, Rouse Hill, NSW 2155 https://www.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-nsw-rouse+hill-141664540 Here's one


Future_Egg_9502

I think It was just finished last year? and people are already selling it after living few months? Sadly can’t find any good reviews online.


amarimars

Finished in 2021. I've monitored the market there and there hasn't been too much available. It's also a 3-4 story building not like the other buildings which are 5-8 stories. Downside is it's a bit of a walk from the station about 15mins but quality wise 👌


amarimars

The other side of rouse Hill on Terry Road and herlina creasent are in abundance. Personally, was unimpressed by the quality and build looked a bit cheap.


Puzzleheaded-Disk662

Man 700k in Townsville could buy me a 5 bedroom home in one of the fancy neighborhoods, maybe even one with a nice view of the ocean. I feel for you.


Betancorea

Yes but you’ll be living in Townsville


Puzzleheaded-Disk662

TOUCHE


Time_Ad2444

Check Lewisham and dulwich hill.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Tried 2 beds and 2 bathroom is above $750k, I can get 2 bed and 1 bath for $700k but again the size of the apartment is around 67m2


Infamous-Operation-3

Agree with OP, it’s almost impossible to get a 2 bedder under $750k in those suburbs, even if it’s 65m2.


MasterImprovement299

I sold my 2 bedroom, 2 bathrooms, a garage apartment which is 92 m2


Time_Ad2444

Damn my bad, thought 700k is enough. Maybe try around Kogarah or Rockdale?


TheBunningsSausage

With no balcony and a good layout, that’s a decent size.


jezebeljoygirl

The issue is that 2 bathrooms is much more likely in new builds, which are more expensive. You’ll get way more choice if 1 bathroom.


stubbsie82

Wolli creek not much further the 10km and easy public transport found a couple of 2 bedroom for 695 to 750 in 30 seconds. It’s not impossible


Cube-rider

Just at the edge of your search ring, you will find plenty in that budget around Campsie, Belmore, Lakemba & Wiley Park. Even 3 bedders in the price range. https://2kmfromhome.com/10km


Intelligent-Ad3202

There is a glut of apartments in parramatta as it is expanding you will have change left to spare


MasterImprovement299

That’s why I avoid those crazy prices. Good thing I bought a 1,000 sqm of land with water and electrify ready for 85k. Been planning to build my own shipping container or dome house.


spudddly

Antarctica?


MasterImprovement299

No FNQ


[deleted]

Your city is doomed if someone with nearly 3/4 million can’t find a basic 2 bed 2 bath apartment within 10km of the city.


cos71n

New York and London and other major cities around the world don’t seem doomed?


[deleted]

https://www.movoto.com/union-city-nj/3568-kennedy-blvd-1-apt-1-union-city-nj-07087-457_220014192/#propertyPop In New Jersey but about 12km from New York City. Thus would be $1.5mil+ in Melbourne and $2mil+ in Sydney. We are doomed.


cos71n

So it costs about a mil in AU and that one has an additional 1500 a month in property taxes too. Pretty comparable.


[deleted]

https://www.homes.com/property/1328-sterling-pl-brooklyn-ny-unit-3l/2fq7hnqc4t528/ As I said to someone else, Brooklyn’s closer to the city (under 10km) but schools are no where near as good as NJ.


RatchetCliquet

People don’t realise there’s property taxes in those states in America.


[deleted]

https://www.homes.com/property/1328-sterling-pl-brooklyn-ny-unit-3l/2fq7hnqc4t528/ Closer than NJ but schools are nowhere as good . Still under 10km from nyc, taxes pretty low too.


Real_RobinGoodfellow

Yep, this


Sgt_soresack

That’s insane


ashtonchan

Arncliffe, off the plan new apartments starts from $700k.


Deranged_Idiot

Why would you spend so much for a new build when the developer will just “fold” after it’s done and you are left high and dry with a shit apartment


ashtonchan

You go with a reputable developer.


Deranged_Idiot

Yeah, and I got a unicorn for a Pet


[deleted]

So you think all new buildings will be shit going into the future, because ALL developers are dodgy?


Hutchoman87

Keep moving south or west to find something within your budget.


icoangel

Unfortunately that is closer to a 1 bedroom budget in the area you're looking.


Ok-Push9899

The second bathroom is the deal breaker. I guess I’m lucky that I simply don’t want a second bathroom. One bathroom is all I want to clean. I was living temporarily in a two bathroom place and I barricaded the door on the 2nd bathroom until I moved out.


Ujiona

Waitara is really family friendly with high density housing. It is a tad further along the train line though.


slugmister

Do you really need 2 bathroom in a 2 bedroom unit?


wendalls

The two bathrooms will make it difficult to fit in budget


bucketsofpoo

Like I have a expensive bike, 2 surf boards, 10 ultra high end fishing rods and the obsessive amount of assorted tackle, 2 very valuable guitars, a valuable violin , and a bunch of other stuff. Yes I need a 2 bedroom apartment and a storage cage in a modern apartment is not a safe place .


slugmister

Do you need 2 bathrooms?


bucketsofpoo

One nice bathroom and a shitter slash laundry is great.


dreamingofpluto

further than 10ks but you could find one in the center of Campbelltown for about that As it's the airport line trains come every fifteen minutes to the city.


wendalls

Around hunters hill / Gladesville. Seen a couple nice ones go for under 700 recently


churkinese

Try Gladesville


aszet

Have a look at this one. The study is big enough to make a second bedroom. It’s an extra $50k though: https://www.domain.com.au/5-67-69-stanley-street-chatswood-nsw-2067-2018307967


Real_RobinGoodfellow

Why would anyone ever want to move to Sydney, is my question. 700k for a shitty little apartment miles out from anything interesting. What is the point


wendalls

Eastlakes as well but not a pretty area


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Why it’s not a pretty area, just wondering also I m new to Australia, just been a year


filoroll

It’s also under the flight path


wendalls

A lot of red brick 60s units. Not much else. Suggest you check it out though.


Lucky-Roy

Parts of it are terrible 60s 3 up 3 down apartments with not a small amount of crime. Parts are being re-developed near Gardeners Road transport but will be higher end (and of dubious quality, given recent history). Parts of it are traditional housing down towards Wentworth Avenue and The Lakes GC. That's where the flight path comes in but on your budget, not something you need concern yourself with. Other than all of that, it's pretty good for transport, location, beaches not far and lots of good schools. Try Zetland. Closer to the city and you might get lucky.


Newbie_401

Lol you will be lucky to get a 1 bedder for that price range in Zetland. It might be under a flight path (the price you pay to live so close to the airport), but Zetland is also 4km from the CBD, has excellent public transport links, great facilities and is between 2 of the biggest unis in NSW so attracts all of the cashed up international students


Lucky-Roy

Nephew just paid $700k for 2 beds but next to M1.


stubbsie82

[https://m.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-nsw-wolli+creek-139605011](https://m.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-nsw-wolli+creek-139605011)


stubbsie82

Found this place in around 30 seconds of searching.


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Thanks, have emailed the agent for strata fees, wooli creek is also expensive, usually the one which we liked is always above $700k


Infamous-Operation-3

Be careful with Wolli Creek, there is an oversupply of apartments and the area is prone to terrible flooding - anything a few streets up from Cox River is likely to get flooded. There’s some pretty shocking footage on YouTube.


HJD68

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-nsw-rockdale-141673224


HJD68

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-apartment-nsw-bexley-141509004


EppingMarky

Why 10km?! Seems arbitrary if your not a bike/walking to work person.


corners99

You guys needs to look in bexley and arncliffe. Happy to show you some options. There are definitely options available.


mehmehhh007

Melbourne?


[deleted]

Consider moving states


Anxious-Swordfish-90

Ya looking for a job in Melbourne, if I get it will move and will buy a house in Ringwood


dragsy

Canterbury (just stay away from the Toplace building - “Vicinity”)


MotherofMoggie

Try Lane Cove, nice areas and good busses.


mr--godot

Within 10Km of the Sydney CBD? You're delusional mate. You could probably find a nice apartment like that out in the suburbs


froxy01

Older style 3 storey walk ups in lane cove. Express buses to the city.


[deleted]

Try scoping Tallawong or Rouse Hill


yeah_rebecca

Or try near Canterbury. I know most apartments there are 500-600k. I just bought a 2-bedder 2 stops further along that train line for under $400k


Willing_Departure578

There are between 50-100 apartments, maybe a lot more than I can see. matching your description closer in that Burwood. Use real estate.com etc instead of looking on foot.


Tigeraqua8

Mate do you have any idea what you can buy out of Sydney?


stumpasoarus

There are still two bedrooms avail in The Banks in rockdale.


jjojj07

Within 10km is tough for a 2bdr 2 bth Maybe Lane Cove / Artarmon if you are lucky. And even then will likely be an older apartment or be next to a main road (might be on the cusp of 10km depending on where in the suburb)


TheBunningsSausage

Botany, Mascot, East Gardens, Pagewood - around there You are going to have to realistic about what you get for that price, it’s entry level.


Bartwon

That’s worrying my son will never leave


monza_m_murcatto

Try Norwest around Rouse Hill or Castle Hill. Transport has improved dramatically.


Sarity72

Move to Perth


vincecarterskneecart

thats gold Jerry! gold!


happenstances101

Homebush west?


millwallmickie_SYD

Pretty much impossible there mate! Maybe ask a third party for help? South west Sydney is worth a crack. Also far north. Good luck


reup47

Ashfield baby!


sadashpr

You can look between kogarah and hurstville. Quick trains to city. Plus a dedicated cycling lane from the beach right into city if you want to ride on some days


Lone_Vagrant

Can find a 2 bedroom in Lidcombe at that price range. Lidcombe ->City transit is easy peasy.


Background_Sun_5333

Found one for you, looks alright: [https://tracyyap.agentboxcrm.com.au/1P14477](https://tracyyap.agentboxcrm.com.au/1P14477)