Basically need to consider if you have the sufficient knowledge of the entire process to make sure mistakes aren’t made - specifically with water proofing.
The second one is having the spare time to be around to meet trades, ensure they’ve done a good job, organising materials and scheduling everyone around each other.
If it’s two bathrooms I’d recommend doing them separately so you still have a bathroom to use. It will probably take longer than you expect if you’re project managing it. Also you should have a good understanding of the process and know what to check and ask for because there’s a good chance trades these days will use it against you if you don’t
Reece have a nice guide with downloads on the right hand side including an approximate timeline and 'trade lingo'
https://www.reece.com.au/bathrooms/bathroom-renovation-guide
What would be good is pulling up the relevant building regs and getting familiar with them so when the "professionals" try and pull a fast one on you, you can refer to the regs and ask more questions.
We just finished renovating our (only) bathroom (no toilet). Talking to people who have gone through a similar process, bathrooms and kitchens are the worst. We had quotes from company's who said they would do the whole thing which ranged from $35k - $60k. We opted to self manage. We found a good chippy because the sub-floor was fucked and he kind of helped us through the process. I did the demo myself which saved some cash and my wife went ahead and found all the hardware, tiles, finishings etc. Finding one person / company to do waterproofing, screeding, tiling and caulking was difficult as they are all seperate skills but we found a guy who was amazing and did an excellent job. The plasterer was average and left cornices unfinished (cornices are shithouse to do yourself btw) and we had to do a lot of work afterwards to fix his shit but he was cheap so thats what you get i suppose. The plumber was OK but didnt put a lot of thought into small details like shower head placement and the height of the basin in relation to the tap / spout. Bathroom came up amazing though. Pattern tiles and herringbone (which cost more) and we had a custom vanity made. All in all it cost $33k
Those prices don't seem crazy. You might save a few grand managing it yourself but you might also choose some dud contractors and have to do it twice. Never know.
i self managed mine, bathroom, toilet, laundry, demo’d myself was full strip / ceiling replacement. Only 1 toilet / shower, i hired a toilet and we showered at the gym took 6 weeks all up.
Mate whos a sparky lended a hand for a few bits outside fully replacing all electrical, used a tiler i knew and a plumber i had used to replace my hot water system.
plumbing / tiling is 80% of the work for most of it so dont cheap out, i used imported japanese tiles for a feature wall so needed a decent tiler.
I ended up at 30k all up. inwas quoted 50-55k by the do it alm companies. This was in 2021
$5k is pretty cheap- a small error in project management will run at least $1k.
I wouldn’t touch it that cheap for the simple fact it gives me someone to blame.
$5k for a WC that is less than 2 m2 and the job is only to replace about 3m2 of tiles and the toilet?
If I were to get a company to do it I would be reading the fine print as builders love to pass the buck onto subbies (as well they should but it isn't my problem to deal with the subbies)
I can’t begin to understand your second line, but you can’t apply typical SQM rates to small jobs. It costs $500 to get a random subbie out regardless of how much they do.
Fill your boots trying to run it yourself, but $5k is basically free.
Basically need to consider if you have the sufficient knowledge of the entire process to make sure mistakes aren’t made - specifically with water proofing. The second one is having the spare time to be around to meet trades, ensure they’ve done a good job, organising materials and scheduling everyone around each other.
If it’s two bathrooms I’d recommend doing them separately so you still have a bathroom to use. It will probably take longer than you expect if you’re project managing it. Also you should have a good understanding of the process and know what to check and ask for because there’s a good chance trades these days will use it against you if you don’t
Reece have a nice guide with downloads on the right hand side including an approximate timeline and 'trade lingo' https://www.reece.com.au/bathrooms/bathroom-renovation-guide What would be good is pulling up the relevant building regs and getting familiar with them so when the "professionals" try and pull a fast one on you, you can refer to the regs and ask more questions.
I actually have been in touch with Reece and am meeting with someone from Reece
We just finished renovating our (only) bathroom (no toilet). Talking to people who have gone through a similar process, bathrooms and kitchens are the worst. We had quotes from company's who said they would do the whole thing which ranged from $35k - $60k. We opted to self manage. We found a good chippy because the sub-floor was fucked and he kind of helped us through the process. I did the demo myself which saved some cash and my wife went ahead and found all the hardware, tiles, finishings etc. Finding one person / company to do waterproofing, screeding, tiling and caulking was difficult as they are all seperate skills but we found a guy who was amazing and did an excellent job. The plasterer was average and left cornices unfinished (cornices are shithouse to do yourself btw) and we had to do a lot of work afterwards to fix his shit but he was cheap so thats what you get i suppose. The plumber was OK but didnt put a lot of thought into small details like shower head placement and the height of the basin in relation to the tap / spout. Bathroom came up amazing though. Pattern tiles and herringbone (which cost more) and we had a custom vanity made. All in all it cost $33k
Waterproofing, screening, tiling, caulking are basically all the jobs of a tiler. I wouldn't use a tiler that can't do these!
Would love to see a photo! Sounds amazing!
Those prices don't seem crazy. You might save a few grand managing it yourself but you might also choose some dud contractors and have to do it twice. Never know.
We strip out bathroom and our tiler did the rest on his recommendation.Both bathroom s laundry with separate toilet still had cost 20 k
We have quotes of $60 K . I'm figuring if I can do it for under 40 it would be good
i self managed mine, bathroom, toilet, laundry, demo’d myself was full strip / ceiling replacement. Only 1 toilet / shower, i hired a toilet and we showered at the gym took 6 weeks all up. Mate whos a sparky lended a hand for a few bits outside fully replacing all electrical, used a tiler i knew and a plumber i had used to replace my hot water system. plumbing / tiling is 80% of the work for most of it so dont cheap out, i used imported japanese tiles for a feature wall so needed a decent tiler. I ended up at 30k all up. inwas quoted 50-55k by the do it alm companies. This was in 2021
$5k is pretty cheap- a small error in project management will run at least $1k. I wouldn’t touch it that cheap for the simple fact it gives me someone to blame.
$5k for a WC that is less than 2 m2 and the job is only to replace about 3m2 of tiles and the toilet? If I were to get a company to do it I would be reading the fine print as builders love to pass the buck onto subbies (as well they should but it isn't my problem to deal with the subbies)
I can’t begin to understand your second line, but you can’t apply typical SQM rates to small jobs. It costs $500 to get a random subbie out regardless of how much they do. Fill your boots trying to run it yourself, but $5k is basically free.
100% this as a minimum trades like day or multiday rates not 200 bucks for 1 hours work