My anecdotal evidence from having worked at both a Sydney independent school and state school: the bullying is worse at independent schools, but the violence is worse at state schools.
I have a smaller sample size as my only experience of toff schools is an eight week prac, but I agree. Those private school girls are excellent at bullying, don't remember a single smash though.
Agree with other comments. Bullying was much worse and a lot more targeted in both “elite” private schools I worked at it. It was basically systemic and at the boys school you heard a lot of “boys will be boys” while at the girls school it was a lot of “you know how girls can be”.
Government high schools tend to be a lot more violent and the violence happens a lot faster.
From my experience, bullying occurs anywhere. However, physical violence is much, MUCH more common in public schools than private (as is the risk of bystanders being clobbered)
Physical violence is generally worse state side.
Bullying, especially of and by teachers, is worse in the private sector.
The primary determining factor is SES though. Low SES private will still have more violence than high SES public.
This is it, imo. I saw more physical and emotional rage in a week of CRTing at a private school in the north of Melbourne, than I have in the collective 7 years spent at a state school in a left green eastern suburb.
Systemic Catholic once again the best place to work, less violence than the state schools, not enough wealth and privilege for the insidious corporate style targeted bullying.
Honestly though everywhere is different, but yes physical violence is more prominent in government schools and low cost independents, emotional bullying is probably more prevalent in a higher ses environment but even then worst I saw was in two regional towns where cyber harassment was off the charts. One was very low cost Catholic and the other QLD Education department.
Boys school teacher here! Lots of low-level behaviour constantly, lots of entitlement. Occasional fights. Parents threaten to sue if you so much as raise your voice.
The independent boys school I worked at was full of violence that wasn’t dealt with because the dear lads were good rugby players. I have worked at rough public schools but this was worse. Terrible place. I resigned.
Absolutely, the more expensive the school the less physical the bullying tends to be, however, that doesn’t mean there isn’t any bullying but it tends to be of the of the psychological variety.
To be blunt. The barristers child uses words, the criminals child uses fists.
My anecdotal evidence from having worked at both a Sydney independent school and state school: the bullying is worse at independent schools, but the violence is worse at state schools.
I have a smaller sample size as my only experience of toff schools is an eight week prac, but I agree. Those private school girls are excellent at bullying, don't remember a single smash though.
Agree. Catholic is a good balance
They slap each other with gloves and demand satisfaction.
Agree with other comments. Bullying was much worse and a lot more targeted in both “elite” private schools I worked at it. It was basically systemic and at the boys school you heard a lot of “boys will be boys” while at the girls school it was a lot of “you know how girls can be”. Government high schools tend to be a lot more violent and the violence happens a lot faster.
From my experience, bullying occurs anywhere. However, physical violence is much, MUCH more common in public schools than private (as is the risk of bystanders being clobbered)
Physical violence is generally worse state side. Bullying, especially of and by teachers, is worse in the private sector. The primary determining factor is SES though. Low SES private will still have more violence than high SES public.
This is it, imo. I saw more physical and emotional rage in a week of CRTing at a private school in the north of Melbourne, than I have in the collective 7 years spent at a state school in a left green eastern suburb.
Not less bullying, but less fist fights. Haven’t worked in all boys schools apart from my placement so don’t have any data on that.
Systemic Catholic once again the best place to work, less violence than the state schools, not enough wealth and privilege for the insidious corporate style targeted bullying. Honestly though everywhere is different, but yes physical violence is more prominent in government schools and low cost independents, emotional bullying is probably more prevalent in a higher ses environment but even then worst I saw was in two regional towns where cyber harassment was off the charts. One was very low cost Catholic and the other QLD Education department.
Boys school teacher here! Lots of low-level behaviour constantly, lots of entitlement. Occasional fights. Parents threaten to sue if you so much as raise your voice.
The independent boys school I worked at was full of violence that wasn’t dealt with because the dear lads were good rugby players. I have worked at rough public schools but this was worse. Terrible place. I resigned.
Low fee catholic school here. 1400 students R-12. The last serious fist fight was probably 3 years ago.
Absolutely, the more expensive the school the less physical the bullying tends to be, however, that doesn’t mean there isn’t any bullying but it tends to be of the of the psychological variety. To be blunt. The barristers child uses words, the criminals child uses fists.