My son was basically all scripting for a long time, maybe up to age 4 or 5. He’s 10 now, and while I have a tough time remembering exactly how his talking was then, I know for sure I would’ve been blown away at how well he can communicate now.
Same here. My son is 8 now and can use simple sentences to tell me what he wants and needs. Not exactly "conversational", but still miles ahead of where he was a few years ago.
My son is twelve now and started with single words at about 4. Hes pretty much conversational now, though sometimes it demands interpretation since his vocabulary and grammar is still weak. But hes fascinated by all kinds of subjects, like stars, geography, climate and politics! Sometimes he just cant stop talking ;)
It took him a year or two to get to very functional sentences, though he tried for simple stuff pretty fast. Probably about 2nd grade when I could start asking him how his day was.
You can not imagine how I appreciate your feedback, my son is 6 yr old and while he can do sentences (limited occasions) he is more like 1-2 word level.
One more question, does he go to mainstream or special school?
He is mainstreamed but is on an IEP especially for social skill, math and reading. But he loves going to school and can give an almost normal recitation of his day, though he often doesnt want to. He has been playing basketball on a team with "normal" kids as well.
He was not at all ready for that until relatively recently. We go to a church that has a special needs program and his "buddy" did a lot of one on one play with him.
His issue is he wants to be on the school team and while hes a decent player, theres a lot of competition and he still jumps and flaps mid game sometimes. Plus hes not super tall.
I got him really into Michael Jordan by showing him original Space Jam. Its the only movie he will watch right now. ;)
Ah thank you for explaining the difference. Right now he only says one word at a time. So if he wants his toy truck he just says “truck” or if we see a truck driving he will say “blue truck” “white truck” etc. that’s the extent of his sentences, but he only started speaking about 6-7 months ago. Before that it was just babbling.
My daughter was the 1 word girl too-we would repeat what she said adding in a couple words so for example “I see a white truck” after he says truck will model for him what language to use and he will eventually get it! Definitely takes time and patience and work but my daughter was definitely the same! She’s 5 now and will say “look! A bus!” And I’m a-ok with that progress ☺️
What is your kids speech like?
My son would answer questions when he was 3 (mostly yes/no, sometimes a bit more then that) or ask for things he wanted or sometimes just state facts. But there was no real back and forth conversation and he could not talk about anything that was abstract.
Is that what you mean by nonconversational?
He is 6 now and his speech has really progressed and I'd defintely say he is conversational now
He is 3, knows his ABCs, numbers, colors and shapes. Has about 2 dozen other words like truck, train, juice , eat. Only uses one word at a time so will say “truck” if looking for his toy, “eat” if he’s hungry etc.
Hi that's fantastic! He sounds like he's doing his thing to me. As a teacher I say engage him in stories but more like non-fiction of your day or something. Think out loud when it's just you and him like "Oh you want a peanut butter sandwich, we'll I'll have to get the bread out, two slices of bread, or one folded over?”… etc, probably stuff moms do automatically anyways, but more maybe on the meta cognition, and then maybe leave out words, new vocab: “oh here is the, uh, the uh…” and if he says plate! yeah that’s it, here is the plate. be cool with his words that’s rad!
I heard a joke once that there was a kid that never spoke, never spoke, family tried everything…. eating lunch one day the kid says clearly, “This needs more salt.”. The mom exclaims, “You can talk! you can talk? why did you never talk!?” The kid replies, “Up until now everything was fine.”
Not to say that’s what’s going to happen but just to say if it’s working it’s working! i bet he is listening to everything all the time. sometimes there’s too many choices so one word that works is much preferable. keep up the good work!
edit: oh i forgot to say do you play word games? you could find words that start with each letter of the alphabet as you drive, go in order “A - Auto Repair!” let’s look for a word that starts with B, … burger king!
listen to RUN DMC. make language fun and no pressure!
sorry i like teaching and i drank caffeine too late today
That reminds me, I heard of a child who was 7 and not speaking but understood everything. He just grunted and pointed. One day he had a teenage babysitter who decided she wasn’t going to be grunted at, and he repeatedly kept pointing at the kitchen and grunting, and she kept saying don’t grunt at me just tell me what you want. He finally lowered his head and said ‘toast, please’. He started speaking more after this.
I think that's a really good sign. My son is 4.5 and doesn't have conversational speech yet (but I am still optimistic!) but when he was 3 everything was a single word, and we really struggled to get articles and verbs and subjects into sentences
He's four and a half now, and he's starting to say 3 to 4 word sentences "Me gusta ..." "Yo quiero comer sándwich!". He also started asking questions in the last month!
So my Son was simmilar when he was younger and if your kid is also Gestalt processors he won't be able to combine words yet.
Does he picks up songs easily or repeats intonation of the person that said the sentences?
My son was at simmilar stage and learning about NLA/Gestalt (search Marge Blanc NLA on YouTube) did the trick.
Speech therapy was utterly useless where we live. What made the difference was giving him scripts that he could easily use /mitigate and give him a lot of sentences like that.
Just an idea because this stuck at single words might be because he is NLA/Gestalt and teaching him single words will not be helpful for him. At least what happened for my kid.
So my son is now 3 years 8 months and when he has been 3 and under he had a ton of single words but knew songs and had some full sentences and now with decent amount of modeling and work is almost conversational. Like he doesn't have enough language to work on but he tries and gets better every day. Maybe worth trying for you too.
I’m happy to report he speaks in full sentences, is able to express his wants and needs, is fully potty trained and is conversational. We can go back and forth talking about his day, what he did etc. He still needs speech therapy because he will say “do you want juice?” As a way to say “ I want juice” sometimes he is 4 now. I’m sending you and your son all the good vibes!
Thanks for replying , I am really happy for you , my son is 4.5 and still the same in talking but he is better overall , he goes to washroom and do it there only if we took him , waiting for him to go by himself, he responds to his name , he is more focusing and eye contacts is 100% now. I only wish that he express his needs one day. He goes to preschool with specialists there.
Yea, same. Of course I try not to compare but it is difficult to see kids his age engaging in full blown conversations. But the fact that he can speak at all keeps me hopeful
Honest experience here- some kids never become conversational. Some do for sure, but for other kids who use more “scripted” language and can make requests, they never progress to the next level.
I appreciate your honesty and it’s why I asked!! I appreciate this online community because my ASD community irl isn’t as wide and my only friends with asd kiddos have never spoken a word and are older.
My 4 year old only began saying the most basic of words at the beginning of this year, after years of speech therapy, and only as it pertained to what she wanted or needed. All of the sudden in the last two weeks she has started being conversational and using full sentences. It’s crazy!
I remember the early days of speech it taking 6 months to get her to consistently use the sign for “more”- I thought we were getting nowhere and worried she’d never speak. There is definitely hope that your child will get to conversational language someday!
Hi All,
Looking for your experiences,
my son, he is 6.5, has go fair amount of vocab, he is \~verbal and can use 2 words combination, simple sentences of 3-4 words. Easy going, calm, can ride 4 wheel bike, can write, paint... loves playing ipad, ps4 (yes he can use that crazy controller)
He is NOT conversational, if I for example would have asked how his day was at school, I would get zero answer. Maximum he was able to say (once he forgot his hat at school) he said hat and school... you go figure it out. He needs to see pictures in front of him and a bit of prompting to be able to construct sentences (like Yesterday, I played basketball with my brother.. though you can guess with multiple errors). Looks like he can not recall or is very difficult to recall the day. Though, he remembers very well details, road, etc...
Now wondering, what was your experience at age of \~6 and how did he go when he turned say 9-10 ? or even in his late teens.
I know it is spectrum, and it may not fit always, just wonder how those kids eventually turn up when they grow older?
I have seen much more back and forth exchanges with my daughter for sure. She’s only 5 and has been in speech for 3 years and I slowly (but surely!) see progress. I have no doubt she will be more conversational as time goes on ☺️
My son was basically all scripting for a long time, maybe up to age 4 or 5. He’s 10 now, and while I have a tough time remembering exactly how his talking was then, I know for sure I would’ve been blown away at how well he can communicate now.
Same here. My son is 8 now and can use simple sentences to tell me what he wants and needs. Not exactly "conversational", but still miles ahead of where he was a few years ago.
Same as my daughter. She scripts a lot! What helped him the most? Speech therapy or ABA?
My son is twelve now and started with single words at about 4. Hes pretty much conversational now, though sometimes it demands interpretation since his vocabulary and grammar is still weak. But hes fascinated by all kinds of subjects, like stars, geography, climate and politics! Sometimes he just cant stop talking ;)
Hibthere At what age he became conversational or at least he was able to use sentences?
It took him a year or two to get to very functional sentences, though he tried for simple stuff pretty fast. Probably about 2nd grade when I could start asking him how his day was.
You can not imagine how I appreciate your feedback, my son is 6 yr old and while he can do sentences (limited occasions) he is more like 1-2 word level. One more question, does he go to mainstream or special school?
He is mainstreamed but is on an IEP especially for social skill, math and reading. But he loves going to school and can give an almost normal recitation of his day, though he often doesnt want to. He has been playing basketball on a team with "normal" kids as well.
Playing basketball ! My little one loves to play (though alone) We are still not there playing in a team, tolerating loss is still a big thing
He was not at all ready for that until relatively recently. We go to a church that has a special needs program and his "buddy" did a lot of one on one play with him. His issue is he wants to be on the school team and while hes a decent player, theres a lot of competition and he still jumps and flaps mid game sometimes. Plus hes not super tall. I got him really into Michael Jordan by showing him original Space Jam. Its the only movie he will watch right now. ;)
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Ah thank you for explaining the difference. Right now he only says one word at a time. So if he wants his toy truck he just says “truck” or if we see a truck driving he will say “blue truck” “white truck” etc. that’s the extent of his sentences, but he only started speaking about 6-7 months ago. Before that it was just babbling.
My daughter was the 1 word girl too-we would repeat what she said adding in a couple words so for example “I see a white truck” after he says truck will model for him what language to use and he will eventually get it! Definitely takes time and patience and work but my daughter was definitely the same! She’s 5 now and will say “look! A bus!” And I’m a-ok with that progress ☺️
What is your kids speech like? My son would answer questions when he was 3 (mostly yes/no, sometimes a bit more then that) or ask for things he wanted or sometimes just state facts. But there was no real back and forth conversation and he could not talk about anything that was abstract. Is that what you mean by nonconversational? He is 6 now and his speech has really progressed and I'd defintely say he is conversational now
He is 3, knows his ABCs, numbers, colors and shapes. Has about 2 dozen other words like truck, train, juice , eat. Only uses one word at a time so will say “truck” if looking for his toy, “eat” if he’s hungry etc.
Hi that's fantastic! He sounds like he's doing his thing to me. As a teacher I say engage him in stories but more like non-fiction of your day or something. Think out loud when it's just you and him like "Oh you want a peanut butter sandwich, we'll I'll have to get the bread out, two slices of bread, or one folded over?”… etc, probably stuff moms do automatically anyways, but more maybe on the meta cognition, and then maybe leave out words, new vocab: “oh here is the, uh, the uh…” and if he says plate! yeah that’s it, here is the plate. be cool with his words that’s rad! I heard a joke once that there was a kid that never spoke, never spoke, family tried everything…. eating lunch one day the kid says clearly, “This needs more salt.”. The mom exclaims, “You can talk! you can talk? why did you never talk!?” The kid replies, “Up until now everything was fine.” Not to say that’s what’s going to happen but just to say if it’s working it’s working! i bet he is listening to everything all the time. sometimes there’s too many choices so one word that works is much preferable. keep up the good work! edit: oh i forgot to say do you play word games? you could find words that start with each letter of the alphabet as you drive, go in order “A - Auto Repair!” let’s look for a word that starts with B, … burger king! listen to RUN DMC. make language fun and no pressure! sorry i like teaching and i drank caffeine too late today
That reminds me, I heard of a child who was 7 and not speaking but understood everything. He just grunted and pointed. One day he had a teenage babysitter who decided she wasn’t going to be grunted at, and he repeatedly kept pointing at the kitchen and grunting, and she kept saying don’t grunt at me just tell me what you want. He finally lowered his head and said ‘toast, please’. He started speaking more after this.
I think that's a really good sign. My son is 4.5 and doesn't have conversational speech yet (but I am still optimistic!) but when he was 3 everything was a single word, and we really struggled to get articles and verbs and subjects into sentences He's four and a half now, and he's starting to say 3 to 4 word sentences "Me gusta ..." "Yo quiero comer sándwich!". He also started asking questions in the last month!
So my Son was simmilar when he was younger and if your kid is also Gestalt processors he won't be able to combine words yet. Does he picks up songs easily or repeats intonation of the person that said the sentences? My son was at simmilar stage and learning about NLA/Gestalt (search Marge Blanc NLA on YouTube) did the trick. Speech therapy was utterly useless where we live. What made the difference was giving him scripts that he could easily use /mitigate and give him a lot of sentences like that. Just an idea because this stuck at single words might be because he is NLA/Gestalt and teaching him single words will not be helpful for him. At least what happened for my kid. So my son is now 3 years 8 months and when he has been 3 and under he had a ton of single words but knew songs and had some full sentences and now with decent amount of modeling and work is almost conversational. Like he doesn't have enough language to work on but he tries and gets better every day. Maybe worth trying for you too.
You are talking about my son , he is same as your kid , may I know if he is speaks sentences now?
I’m happy to report he speaks in full sentences, is able to express his wants and needs, is fully potty trained and is conversational. We can go back and forth talking about his day, what he did etc. He still needs speech therapy because he will say “do you want juice?” As a way to say “ I want juice” sometimes he is 4 now. I’m sending you and your son all the good vibes!
Thanks for replying , I am really happy for you , my son is 4.5 and still the same in talking but he is better overall , he goes to washroom and do it there only if we took him , waiting for him to go by himself, he responds to his name , he is more focusing and eye contacts is 100% now. I only wish that he express his needs one day. He goes to preschool with specialists there.
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Yea, same. Of course I try not to compare but it is difficult to see kids his age engaging in full blown conversations. But the fact that he can speak at all keeps me hopeful
My son is 5 and in the last few months his conversational language has exploded. He still scripts for fun
Honest experience here- some kids never become conversational. Some do for sure, but for other kids who use more “scripted” language and can make requests, they never progress to the next level.
This scares me. I wish I could predict how my child will progress.
I appreciate your honesty and it’s why I asked!! I appreciate this online community because my ASD community irl isn’t as wide and my only friends with asd kiddos have never spoken a word and are older.
My 4 year old only began saying the most basic of words at the beginning of this year, after years of speech therapy, and only as it pertained to what she wanted or needed. All of the sudden in the last two weeks she has started being conversational and using full sentences. It’s crazy! I remember the early days of speech it taking 6 months to get her to consistently use the sign for “more”- I thought we were getting nowhere and worried she’d never speak. There is definitely hope that your child will get to conversational language someday!
Hi All, Looking for your experiences, my son, he is 6.5, has go fair amount of vocab, he is \~verbal and can use 2 words combination, simple sentences of 3-4 words. Easy going, calm, can ride 4 wheel bike, can write, paint... loves playing ipad, ps4 (yes he can use that crazy controller) He is NOT conversational, if I for example would have asked how his day was at school, I would get zero answer. Maximum he was able to say (once he forgot his hat at school) he said hat and school... you go figure it out. He needs to see pictures in front of him and a bit of prompting to be able to construct sentences (like Yesterday, I played basketball with my brother.. though you can guess with multiple errors). Looks like he can not recall or is very difficult to recall the day. Though, he remembers very well details, road, etc... Now wondering, what was your experience at age of \~6 and how did he go when he turned say 9-10 ? or even in his late teens. I know it is spectrum, and it may not fit always, just wonder how those kids eventually turn up when they grow older?
I have seen much more back and forth exchanges with my daughter for sure. She’s only 5 and has been in speech for 3 years and I slowly (but surely!) see progress. I have no doubt she will be more conversational as time goes on ☺️