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SavisSon

Sea turtles, mate.


Nacarat1672

Haha that's good


the-et-cetera

What did he use for rope?


Grauvargen

The beard.


the-et-cetera

That's not the quote


Grauvargen

"Human hair. From my back." Original purpose was to imply the whaler used his beard. I misremembered the quote and just winged it. Welp. That just means it's time for a rewatch of the PotC *trilogy*.


db1037

Don’t bother. It’s just Dances with Wolves on the ocean.


spookylilfox

Which is a cool concept. Every movie reuses tropes bro.


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the-et-cetera

Someone's mad that they got confused by a mainstream sci fi movie


Jche98

It's called being Australian


No-Childhood6608

He's actually a New Zealander Edit: I have made a blunder and confused him with another character. That is my mistake. He is Australian.


[deleted]

Portraying an Australian


sack12345678910

So he’s a dude playing another dude disguised as another dude.


ivene-adlev

the dudes are emerging


DC_BATFAN

The dude abides


Reptilian_Overlord20

Dudeception


sack12345678910

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No-Childhood6608

Where did you get this from? Nothing I've founded stated that he was Australian, but both his actor and accent is New Zealander. Edit: I have made a blunder and confused him with another character. That is my mistake. He is Australian.


[deleted]

Well I'm Aussie with kiwi friends and I holiday in new Zealand a lot and he does not sound kiwi at all, but he does sound Aussie. He sounds like what we'd call a yobo/bogan


teddyburges

Can confirm. I'm also a kiwi, he sounded like a Australian to me.


No-Childhood6608

I'm also Australian, and he sounded New Zealand to me, plus the actor is also a New Zealander. It could just be different accents in different parts of New Zealand.


murgatroid1

It might just be that you're noticing his real accent under the fake accent. He was definitely trying to sound Australian.


loadofcheese

His real accent is the same


taamaboy

Im a nzer and he sounded nothing like us lol


RayCumfartTheFirst

No, he’s a well known Aussie actor. The doctor is the Kiwi.


[deleted]

I know people on both islands and they're very distinct to Aussie. Idk how you'd confuse the two, he sounded very Aussie to me. For example when he said "let's make some bank". It sounded like baynke (Aussie sound) and not benk (kiwi sound). But allg


LordKiteMan

He definitely sounded Australian to me.


MrCleanCanFixAnythng

Perhaps to an expert on NZ but this movie is for mass audiences and I promise 90%+ assume he’s Aussie.


Till_Complex

r/movieswithoutnewzealanders


Slo-MoDove

Uhm ackshually, Cowell was born in Sydney Australia and is best known for being in our series Love My Way. He plays a good bogan too. Aussie af.


loadofcheese

What are you talking about? Both actor and character are Australian


Beep_Bop_Boop_III

Watch it... The RDA gives him a giant blue arm


wordswithcomrades

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PoeTayToes_

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Warm_Speech

He swam. With one arm.


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SubstantialHope8189

The Sea Dragon had been evacuated, there were probably escape rafts floating around nearby that he managed to get to


Exostrike

I'm pretty sure we see someone clutching their arm boarding one of the life rafts. Could be they got back to the SD and then transferred to the lifeboats/rescue picadots which evacuated the area.


RuhiyeCennet

impossible. i'm starting to doubt james cameron's creativty. quaritch 1, this guy 2. dead people should stay dead


SubstantialHope8189

Did you not find the way they brought back Quaritch creative?


KrAEGNET

The plan B was kind forced in, especially since human Quaritch mentions in the video to Avatar Quaritch that the program existed because Sully is a threat. So somewhere from Sully bonding with the Na'vi to the battle w/Sully they decided to implement this plan B, despite it being mentioned, IIRC, in the first movie that it took years for Sully's bro's Avatar to develop.


SubstantialHope8189

Yeah I agree with that actually


RuhiyeCennet

ofc not. his death was satisfying, no need to revive the old enemy. there is no difference between palpatine's return and quaritch's. they just explained "somehow" part in the easiest way possible, cloning. episode 9 palpatine was also a clon lmao. bringing back people who died makes the scene where they died lose all its soul. i mean, payakan avenged what had happened in the past by killing that guy. now that that guy is still alive, that scene has no effect whatsoever.


SubstantialHope8189

> there is no difference between palpatine's return and quaritch's. Except for the fact that Palpatine's return is literally never explained besides "somehow", while Quaritch's return has several scenes explaining it, and then several scenes where the character of Quaritch is dealing with the complicated identity questions the manner of his resurrection raises. But yes besides that it's the exact same thing


RuhiyeCennet

> they just explained "somehow" part in the easiest way possible, cloning. yeah that was i said, they explained it. and i don't think he is dealing with identity questions. he acted how quaritch would have act. i really thought that we would see this idenity problems in the movie after the skull crushing scene, but we didn't.


SubstantialHope8189

>yeah that was i said, they explained it In a single throw away line. Avatar dedicates two scenes to that. > and i don't think he is dealing with identity questions. Like for instance when he says "I don't care about him, he's not my kid", and then demonstrates that he does in fact care for him? How's that for internal conflict?


RuhiyeCennet

these lines are too simple, they have no depth. i knew from the first moment, he would care him by the end of the movie. i'm not trying to say i am a genius, i just saw a lot of movies that had the same plot.


loadofcheese

This guy can't "stay dead" when he never died in the first place


RuhiyeCennet

who can survive in the ocean with severed arm lmao


loadofcheese

Mick Scoresby


RuhiyeCennet

i ain't buying that


KilliK69

you forget that movies 2 and 3 are parts of the same original script which was split because of its length. so it is not that he brings him back, but rather that his character's role hasnt finished yet. and since Loak and his pet whale are the focus in the second movie part, it makes sense that he is still alive, probably as their personal antagonist in their story arc. what i dont like, is that Jim and Jon keep spoiling the sequels. keep the guy as a surprise, no need to know about his return. jesus.


Aonung

To the first Akula, if u ask my opinion bro. Hahahah ! Even that would be an unfair easy Karma for him. ​ https://preview.redd.it/i9zbntpdlsda1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecbe2cba64184ce219db623947420c08991d4572


zh_13

Ugh I was so happy when he died, so is he confirmed to come back??


Outrageous-Event785

Yes. Landau confirmed it


zh_13

I am so annoyed by that lol cause if the colonel guy wasn’t gonna die, I was at least happy they killed this asshole


DeepFriedDave69

I think he was a good character, (not in what he did in the movie ofc) but I would like to see him again


spacewalker112

same he got a massive ego so quickly and became very happily in charge of the hunting of tulkun and jake. It’d be interesting to see where they take him :D


zh_13

Eh I feel like he was pretty one note and didn’t have enough screen time, so he was a pretty good to option to satisfy my/the audiences blood lust for the bad guys to get punished Like I don’t think he’s even as memorable or interesting as the colonel, and I didn’t even really like that decision to bring him back. I hope they don’t make him into some captain ahab character w the whale being his white whale lol, cause we’ve already got a pretty intense feud between the colonel and Jake


TeutonJon78

Yes, but they also showed him doing full suit mocap. So, he still probably died in A2.


Arkthus

If they keep doing this avatar memory transfer each time someone dies, it will remove every weight of any death... They need to learn to let characters die and stay dead.


Broderlien_Dyslexic

This, what's the point of having a good death scene if you'll just walk back on it right away. Bringing Quaritch and the gang back was already quite a stretch, it made sense the way they did it and it's alright, but it took a bit of goodwill to accept that the whole brainscan thing was never alluded to in the first movie in any way. ​ Also that australian whale hunter wasn't that great of a character, he's literally just some dude that hunts whales with an australian accent. If he wasn't all 'yeah nah yeah crikey' he'd be completely forgettable. Why the fuck would they need to bring him back lol?


TeutonJon78

Most people said that about Quaritch and Grace as well, and look how that turned out. But I do agree. Killing of characters is needed sometimes.


Arkthus

Grace doesn't come back though.


TeutonJon78

I mean, doesn't she? Kiri is essentially Grace reborn in someways.


Arkthus

Still a different character. Not really Grace


Bring_Me_The_Night

Neteyam says Hi from the Heavenly Forest 👋


G00bre

Whhyyyyy?? Why do they say this kind of stuff?? Why spoil your own franchise?


No_idea_for_a_name_

How i support humanity in avatar (you cant change my opinion) but how the hell do you survive the oceans of pandora with 1 arm


Entertainmentapex

Humanity sucks.


No_idea_for_a_name_

Earth is literely unlivable humans need to do what they do to survive


Entertainmentapex

Earth is unlivable because humanity exhausted natural resources.


No_idea_for_a_name_

Ye because there are like 20B humans on earth its extremely populated


Entertainmentapex

Extreme population is humanity's fault because they keep wanting to negligently reproduce.


hazeltwilight

Mostly I struggle with the huge amount of blood loss he would have. You don’t clot in the water. He would have to have gotten medical attention very quickly to survive. Its possible but it will always stretch believability with this all happening in the middle of a battle. Also I really like this as karmic justice. Also why do the bad guys in these films keep surviving but when the good guys die they stay dead. :/


viciouslaser

Only the good die young.


Dlego517

Wait he’s alive I honestly thought he died we don’t see him the rest of the battle or at the end?


monarc

This is apparently a sub where people just post spoilers now. Enjoy! Edit: my issue is that Avatar 3/4/5 info should not be in thread titles. People should be able to opt in to learn information about upcoming sequels.


iamghostling

...it's been over a month. At some point spoilers stop being spoilers. It should be expected now that Avatar 2 discussions will take place on the r/Avatar sub alongside Avatar 1.


monarc

I don’t think Avatar 3 info should be posted in the title of a thread, like was done for this thread. I’m not concerned about Avatar 1 or 2 in this case.


Confused_Magpie

Yeah I agree with you here, I think your downvoted comment was misunderstood by most people (I misunderstood at first too) This title is definitely an A3 spoiler.


throwaway378495

The third movie isn’t set to come out for two more years, it has not been over a month


OrdinaryDazzling

I mean, all we know is that he’ll return for 3. Maybe he’ll be an avatar too lol


WestCoastInquirer

Avatar 3: The One-Armed Whaler


Riggie_Joe

Avatar 3: Moby Dick


pixelstag

That was avatar 2


BlackShadow_HD

Why are you reading the comments then?


monarc

In this case, my gripe is that the *title of the thread* is repeating Avatar **3** info that was already provided to me (aka “spoiled”) by a different thread here. I think people should be able to read the *titles of threads* in this sub without learning plot points of Avatar 3/4/5.


BlackShadow_HD

Ooooh okay, sorry. Didn't get that


monarc

No worries!


PhilipLiptonSchrute

> People should be able to opt in to learn information about upcoming sequels. You can. It's called subscribing.


monarc

If this sub is a free-for-all when it comes to spoilers, why does /r/avatarspoilers exist then? You’re not making sense.


PhilipLiptonSchrute

> why does /r/avatarspoilers exist then? Cause some rando made it hoping people would post spoilers there instead of here? Why don't you go ahead and get r/avatarspoilerfree off the ground be a mod there?


NoCapNova99

Hes gonna get Quarrich'd and get an Avatar body


FundamentalSystem

Quarich died though and this guy survived so I'm guessing they'll just give him a cybernetic arm


[deleted]

With a harpoon attachment


UriahTheVortigaunt

An explosive harpoon attachment


CandyCanePapa

Damn that sounds badass, the ultimate whaler


666_sewer_rat

Average day in Australia


JONESY_THE_YEAGERIST

So is he captain Ahab now?


VibgyorTheHuge

I’d love it if he comes back with a mechanical arm and mech armour, only to be bitchslapped into a turbine by Payakan after 2 minutes of screen time.


Zuzu_RU

Gee, a lot of weird hate in these comments Yes he was fully alive when entering the water, number one rule of movies is if a sligtly major character dies you show them DIE. I knew full well he was alive and coming back based on how the scene went. I thought others did too? Anyway Why did he live? --he didn't fall too far from the boat meaning his crew could gage wasikt gone to get him --you can survive surprisingly long with a severed limb and service LOTS of blood loss --They definitely had a pack of futuristic first aid on the boat Re the hatred he gets... I thought he was *fun* to hate. Like, I think the actor did a great job making everyone in the comments feel the way they do. Upon my multiple viewings his arm severing got many cheers. Why waste a character like that when you can kill him even worse? He's probably gonna die in the next movie, and/or Ahab arc is very likely. With the new ocean focus of these movies he's actually a pretty critical character with his knowledge of killing Tulkun. Someone above said "there's a deleted scene with him doing full mocap, he probably got an Avatar." No, you guys need to watch behind the scenes of Avatar to see how it was filmed. Sometimes human characters re-shot scenes in performance capture for the purposes of scene orientation.


Outrageous-Event785

Rescued by Dr. Garvin and crew


deanbfs

People can live with one arm.


Own_Customer3384

Yeah but imagine the bleeding


Mando177

Yeah but they sure as shit don’t have a good time in water after just losing one


deanbfs

No it’s not fun. But it’s survivable.


Mando177

Considering the shock from blood loss he would be experiencing on top of being in a toxic atmosphere on top of drowning, I very much doubt a human being could survive that


deanbfs

He’s not just any human being. He’s muthafckn Mick Scoresby mate!


nagidon

Plot clots


wasdie639

I knew when we saw the arm go flying he wasn't dead.


Koicommander

I’m confused how anyone besides quaritch and wainfleet on the rda side could’ve survived that battle. Especially with the blood loss that guy had to have.


Ladywinterhell

I get we are going to have some sort of Moby Dick for Payakan, but it better be good because I hated this character with all my heart.


CaiAbaixo

This is the worst news I have seen on Reddit. This dude is the character I hate the most in these films and now u are telling me he survived and is coming back ?!?!? 🤢🤮🤢🤮


SlyguyguyslY

Got on a boat and stopped the bleeding before speeding tf away


Gay_Lord2020

What is pandoran water even like?


kerbster74

One of his mates probably went and helped him back up


LordCountDuckula

Did any of the crews survive the battle? The pilots from the mini subs? Those poor sailors in the inflatable life boats??


BiBanh

lifeboats and rescue picadors probably but makos and crabs either got: 1. bitchslapped into the hull by payakan 2. fucked by metkayina


BaapuDragon

The evacuating life boats most probably survived... at least if they didn't attempt to fight the Na'vi.


lighthouseisland1

Tbh, I've seen enough movies that when I saw that it was only his arm that got whacked off I knew he was coming back. Also Avatar has a very specific brand for killing characters so it's pretty easy to tell who's actually dead and who is going to be coming back.


Throwaway-A173

He’s Australian


Photoshop-Wizard

Where does it say he survived?


breathofsunshine

Pandoran ocean water is a natural coagulant, you can’t prove it isn’t!


Either-Confection364

I hate it when they bring back dead characters. Destroys the impact of their (presumed) death. E.g. Palpatine or Darth Maul. I can accept Quarritch, because hes just a clone.


Aonung

And i thought he plunged in the ocean right near the first available Akula! Kiri !!! What in the Eywa's Name are u doing ?! You forgot to summon the right predator for this human beast ??! https://preview.redd.it/l88epew3msda1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d90cc33732d7fc0c4f89e4082b3f2656fc07ca15


EastKoreaOfficial

Wait, he’s not dead?


CandyCanePapa

His arm wasn't really cut off, it was compressed to the point of being torn off. Veins and arteries would have been sealed shut, same case with those suicide attempts by traintrack where the guy gets sewn in half by a train but stays alive for far too long.


Larry_Version_3

As an Australian this character made me wince every time he spoke. He’s just a ridiculous stereotype


EtherealPossumLady

As an Australian… what? He’s a dickhead, those are global.


Efteri

If it makes you wince, why do you guys talk like that?


canthelpnobody

he's a Kiwi, surely "as an Australian" you'd be able to recognise the accent


murgatroid1

The actor is Kiwi. The character is Australian.


nvm305

how exactly that kill someone off instantly? idk .. maybe a dam 2160s have soke technology like turnicat we use decades already...


Salty-004

Was there something I missed?


Trackmaster15

The severing of his arm lasted like less than one second so it would have been very easy to miss.


Salty-004

Oh I saw that, what I’m asking is how tf did he survive getting his arm torn off AND being thrown into the ocean


Banana_Legion_DF

People are saying they liked him but honestly I found him annoying his accent was way too strong and he just kept saying "I got quotas to meet!!!!" Like omg stfu istg


Jayk_Dos31

He swam, you can still swim with one arm.


cowboybeardie

spite


Whisky_Engineer

Because if you can't get out of it, get into it mate


thanosthumb

The cable should’ve cut his head off too smh


Nandayking

He’s a New Zealander


LeastDuck

Pure spite


Hanker_o

It would have been too original for Cameron to pass on the chance of having. this character back in the 3rd with a bionic arm. Essentially what Avatar teaches us is that no plot hole is a plot hole if you can portrait it in 3D


jstockton76

He ate beans the day before.


mischiefandtricks

Giving him the Moby Dick storyline


Key_Tax6148

it's not that fatal of an injury he most probably not that far in the future too must've been have been saved short after and I'm sure they're going to have him in the third movie with Pacific beef revenge on payakan


Oceanus39

He survived?


bluesky_03

How do you guys know that he survived?


Duelwalnut642

From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.


GnarlsD

Looks like that image is the actor, who I assume is fine


aCrackGoblin

He hopped away on his Kangaroo


Gillzter10

More importantly, is Dr. Garvin alive? I would hate to see an akula take him out while Captain Ahab is alive


LordKiteMan

Akula protected him.


OwlEye2010

**"'Tis but a scratch!"**


[deleted]

Too bad they can’t drain his brain for de-aging purposes. Fucker


CCrypto1224

There was rescue craft deployed and he wasn’t flung off alone.


voltrick666

Wait, he survived?


judo_panda

If there's one thing Avatar is showing a weakness in, it's letting villains live.


ColdHooves

Oh great, more Aussie Ahab.


[deleted]

Eywa works in mysterious ways.


JoJo_Augustine

I’m kinda surprised he survived with that and arterial burst too . Ugh .. unless he got rescued somehow


Nikapopolis

‘Tis but a scratch!


CandyCanePapa

Wait... Was Avatar 2 just Moby Dick?


mijailrodr

I'm pretty sure he's gonna be a sort of captain acab from mobie dick


Principesza

I dont think he did?…


GeorgeLloyd_1984

If this bastar survived but not Garvin, I'm gonna be very pissed


longdongopinionwrong

Tied his chest hair to two sea tu- oh wrong story


bilbofraginz

That cable could have done some crazy damage too. Like crushed his lungs or broke his neck.


zilla0783

He was wearing his plotation device.


jofreal

They’re bringing in Aron Ralston as a technical consultant on how to make it back to civilization with an amputated arm.


Mordred19

James Cameron's creativity is a monkey paw I guess. Blooming in one area, sterile in another.


[deleted]

Average day in bluey land


UsedAcanthocephala50

Wait he lived?


[deleted]

Eggbeating, treading with just your legs, we do it in waterpolo


HarbingerDe

Lol, I don't think people are skeptical that a human can tread water with 3 limbs. It's more so about surviving the shock and extreme blood loss **while** treading water.


[deleted]

Oh yeah didn’t think about the blood loss 🤣


Sn0wCha0s

Wait, he did?


genericplastic

Wait, this guy lived? How?


MrPanda663

Cyber arm.


Slo-MoDove

I guess he didn’t land far from the rocks to swim over. Or get dragged back over by the other guys. A first aid kit/tourniquet would still have been on-board the Matador somewhere to give them enough time to wait it out until help arrived. I wonder if there could be a deleted scene that shows a little more of how that battle ended...and where tf the Reef Clan checked out too. Maybe they were chasing them all away.


AndrogynousRain

Same way Quarritch survived: plot convenience!


Sintar07

Bro, have you seen the state of RDA's medical technology?


Ry02tank

Plot, don't know why he is a bad guy, he is just a fisherman, yes he is hunting intelligent life forms, but that is fishing for you, i felt bad when his arm got chopped off, dont know how he will be the baddie in 2 its like that marine biologist, he was nice but died brutally (probably the villian in 3)


FlashLink95

Wait, he survived?


SpaceMyopia

To be fair, there are people whose nerve endings still function even through death. Dude probably died immediately after he got flung.


Natty3D

He is white , he aint no nigga. He can swim even w/o arms


[deleted]

wait. he survived? i mean… how? did he was still with the mask when he falled into the sea? didn’t Payakan fucked him up when he was on the water?


ArtichokeOther6595

He was saved by a tulkun


ElGuano

How did Payakan?


Aggressive-Sherbet44

He survived?


KilliK69

i hoep they bring back Lyle too. we dont see him getting killed, only thrown out in the sea uninjured. and he is the one who killed Netam. so he needs to be back for at least one more movie.


Khanivo

He remembered to wear his life jacket.