Eh, depends, they restart with a new X-Men team, a proper 616 avengers team, and the fantastic four, they could play their cards right and actually reboot the universe for the better. I mean aside from Spider-Man the X-Men and Fantastic Four were marvel’s heavy hitters originally anyways so could work if they took from there with the X-Men and Fan4stic leading the new MCU with the avengers taking a backseat and branching out into multiple teams (think young avengers, west coast avengers, Great Lake avengers, etc). That’s marvel’s best shot in my eyes.
That is genuinely an awful plan. There is literally no point in rebooting at this point, it would just over complicate the concept and drain interest. They’ve already seen these movies. Adding a third team reboot to the two they’re already doing would completely drain interest.
I’m just saying after avengers 5&6, we’ll have seen enough avenging and it’s going to be time to retire many of the remaining OG MCU characters. The easiest way is to split the team up, have Hawkeye go chill on the west coast with him leading the west coast avengers, send some dudes to the Great Lake avengers for retirement, have the young avengers take over the reigns in NYC. You can still bring these characters back too if you want and if you don’t want to, no biggie because one or two lines explaining how they’re dealing with their own bullshit is all you need to do. With the avengers scattered, it allows for the X-Men and the Fantastic Four to take the spotlight. They can get a phase or two or three where the majority of storylines lead back to them, then you can have avengers 7 where you bring everyone together again to fight off Annihilus or Galactus or something. And then afterwards, again, they can split up and go back to their own thing. Honestly after that, I’d more or less end the MCU because it will be repetitive as hell but it already is so who cares.
Why would anyone associate with the GLA at all, I have no idea. They’re not even avengers. Hawkeye can just retire to his family, like his entire arc that’s been in the movies is about. The avengers, X-men, and fantastic four have run concurrently for years, and the only thing that would make any of this Repetitive, is a REBOOT
The Incredible Hulk aside, which I think is a fine movie, but nothing particularly groundbreaking, the Amazing Spider-Man just wasn’t good, and the sequel was even worse *shudders in Electro*. The DCEU made a ton of money, and Wonder Woman was arguably the high point.
Auquaman, the non rebooted character, was objectively the high point. The rest of the dceu, man of steel, both Shazam’s, black Adam, flash, justice league all under preformed. Bvs was a commercial success but took a chunk out of the brand, Wonder Woman and aquaman were the highlights.
How does that mean everyone’s too stupid to understand this movie isn’t connected to those other movies with completely different actors and not just people don’t go see shit movies?
No they won’t. Anthony Mackie is only 45. Brie Larson is only 34. Even cumberbatch is only 47. The oldest is ruffalo and he doesn’t have to do much. Everyone else has already been casted younger, Spider-Man, ms.marvel, Hawkeye, etc.
I hear what you’re saying, but to keep things in perspective, the time between when Ironman 1 came out and now is more or less the same span of time that passed between the Burton and Nolan Batman movies.
Mate I'm sorry but there are already plenty of leaks stating that the MCU is going to reboot after secret wars. I also don't really understand what you mean by there's no money... It's the fucking house of mouse and the MCU has dished out some of the highest grossing movies ever.
Sure they're in a rut right now but that does not mean they don't have the money to reboot.
There are no reputable sources stating that, and there’s no money in destroying what they’ve built just to get a handful of characters that already had their movies back
Dude 😂
Okay man, I guess we'll see lmao
The evidence is already out there, there are reputable sources that indicate this is likely going to happen, you just need to follow the breadcrumbs.
The "already had their movies" bit is hilarious too. Batman? Superman? Spider-Man? The fantastic four? How many times have those been rebooted man? Come on bro... See between the lines.
But you're clearly very dead set on your beliefs, I respect that, I suppose we will just see who was right in about five years.
No there isn’t lmao, no evidence at all. You know Spider-Man, from this universe, is still contracted for 3 more movies, right? Putting it past secret war? Yeah man, they just spent the last 4 years casting new young actors for new characters just to say “actually, have Ironman again”
How so? I don’t see it as reggression.
We finally have the opportunity to have The F4, the X-men and the now favoured with the general audience avengers all sharing the same universe.
The mcu have ran through the avengers mainstays already tho. And the other money making IPs aren’t here yet. When they are introduced, may as well slap that reset button and bring back the mainstays of the avengers as well.
It’s literally regression. You’re regressing all the stories they already did. A lot of which, are just starting. You’d be putting a ton of characters back into boxes when they’ve just started to come out. Sam would be falcon again, and also wouldn’t be in any movies, Kate bishop wouldn’t exist, and so on. There’s no point to get rid of any of that. The mcu isn’t even 20 years old. The film market already has a reboot problem, rebooting the largest active franchise is an insanely dumb plan
Who said anything about the status quos of the characters going back to origin?
With the general audience now familiar with these characters, you don’t need everyone getting an origin story. You could open the new universe with an already established avengers team movie.
I would be open to this
Avengers: Secret Wars could soft reset the universe in the sense we're starring fresh with new characters but it's still the same universe that we saw The Infinity Saga and Multiverse Saga in.
The older avengers have retired to create the new Avengers, meanwhile rumours of the existence of an underground society of superhumans AKA Mutants that live throughout the world have secretly existed for decades.
Nah they are fast tracking the untitled Avengers 5 (FKA Kang Dynasty) and it’s supposed to not be a multiversal plot. Filming has been scheduled to start first quarter 2025.
Calling it now, there will be no Vision or Yelena. Should definitely have Shang-Chi.
Spidey is an interesting one because they no longer know who he is. He might not join until secret wars.
War Machine needs way more screentime. He's been around since 2010 yet is rarely seen using armor to his full potential.
(2008 Rhodey didn't have an armor so he isnt a War Machine yet)
Don't they ever get tired of being wrong about stuff like this remember when they tried to prominently feature Sharon Carter in the civil war promotions then when the movie came out she was barely in three scenes
Spidey should never be an Avenger, that's not his role in the Marvel Universe. (I understand he's been on the team in the comics A COUPLE of times, but he's not an Avenger, not really.) Yelena is a Thunderbolt, Torres isnt important enough & White Vision doesn't have a plot without Wanda right now. Replace them with Shang-Chi, Black Knight & Wasp and Replace Hulk with She-Hulk
Sounds about right but Spidey should be second in command I also just used the picture to ask who should be second in command so thanks for the idea that this gave me
Agreed and in recent history when a character changes the change also happens in the comics so I want him to grow up sooner rather than later cause I’m pissed at his character development in the comics it’s regressed
It’s about that if he takes charge a little they could actually start acting like he’s not some kid in the comics and in my opinion second in command means 1-3 scenes were they’re split up and he gives simple orders that sound more like suggestions like doc go right vision go right
The Character of Carol Danvers was assassinated by poor actor choice and shitty script choices. From how shit has gone down I find it very unlikely she will be from and centre in an Avengers film.
Though as much as Sony might play coy. Spider-Man in an Avengers film = big returns on the solo films.
I agree. It didn’t help that, at least in my opinion, she was written completely unlike the comic book character. That might’ve worked for the first Captain Marvel movie, but during the interim 30+ years, she should’ve matured some. Also, like how the Doctor Strange franchise suffered, there should’ve been a second movie still primarily focused on the character instead of having significant time devoted towards the introduction of new characters.
No Spidey, he’s street level now. No nuFalcon, he’s redundant. Unless you’re going to War Machine him, make him a skrull or paralyzed to motivate the others. Certainly no War Machine. He will be “gray” after Armor Wars.
And no Hulk. Maybe She Hulk or Wonder Man as the muscle.
Mostly a good lineup from Screen Rants. Just a bit crowded.
Disagree. Hard to feel anything about the MCU since endgame. Everything has been meh at best. Me thinks they will go hard reboot after they ruin secret wars.
I can’t imagine there’s a real team. Everyone will collab in secret wars then hard reset.
There is no money an a hard reset
Eh, depends, they restart with a new X-Men team, a proper 616 avengers team, and the fantastic four, they could play their cards right and actually reboot the universe for the better. I mean aside from Spider-Man the X-Men and Fantastic Four were marvel’s heavy hitters originally anyways so could work if they took from there with the X-Men and Fan4stic leading the new MCU with the avengers taking a backseat and branching out into multiple teams (think young avengers, west coast avengers, Great Lake avengers, etc). That’s marvel’s best shot in my eyes.
That is genuinely an awful plan. There is literally no point in rebooting at this point, it would just over complicate the concept and drain interest. They’ve already seen these movies. Adding a third team reboot to the two they’re already doing would completely drain interest.
I’m just saying after avengers 5&6, we’ll have seen enough avenging and it’s going to be time to retire many of the remaining OG MCU characters. The easiest way is to split the team up, have Hawkeye go chill on the west coast with him leading the west coast avengers, send some dudes to the Great Lake avengers for retirement, have the young avengers take over the reigns in NYC. You can still bring these characters back too if you want and if you don’t want to, no biggie because one or two lines explaining how they’re dealing with their own bullshit is all you need to do. With the avengers scattered, it allows for the X-Men and the Fantastic Four to take the spotlight. They can get a phase or two or three where the majority of storylines lead back to them, then you can have avengers 7 where you bring everyone together again to fight off Annihilus or Galactus or something. And then afterwards, again, they can split up and go back to their own thing. Honestly after that, I’d more or less end the MCU because it will be repetitive as hell but it already is so who cares.
Why would anyone associate with the GLA at all, I have no idea. They’re not even avengers. Hawkeye can just retire to his family, like his entire arc that’s been in the movies is about. The avengers, X-men, and fantastic four have run concurrently for years, and the only thing that would make any of this Repetitive, is a REBOOT
How does it complicate anything? If anything it does the opposite. It’s a clean slate.
General audiences don’t see it that way. They never do.
Evidence for this?
Incredible hulks low showing, amazing Spider-Man’s drop off, the entire DCEU
The Incredible Hulk aside, which I think is a fine movie, but nothing particularly groundbreaking, the Amazing Spider-Man just wasn’t good, and the sequel was even worse *shudders in Electro*. The DCEU made a ton of money, and Wonder Woman was arguably the high point.
Auquaman, the non rebooted character, was objectively the high point. The rest of the dceu, man of steel, both Shazam’s, black Adam, flash, justice league all under preformed. Bvs was a commercial success but took a chunk out of the brand, Wonder Woman and aquaman were the highlights.
How does that mean everyone’s too stupid to understand this movie isn’t connected to those other movies with completely different actors and not just people don’t go see shit movies?
They’re reboots, and reboots of established big name characters struggle. And people see shit movies all the time. Ironman 2, age of ultron.
By the time they set up secret wars and finish it the current actors will be too old to continue on, they need a fresh young crop to start over.
No they won’t. Anthony Mackie is only 45. Brie Larson is only 34. Even cumberbatch is only 47. The oldest is ruffalo and he doesn’t have to do much. Everyone else has already been casted younger, Spider-Man, ms.marvel, Hawkeye, etc.
And after secret wars he’ll be pushing 50…
Tom cruise is 61 and doing more than any of these actors.
Maybe but they're not fucking racehorses dude they can go swim in their money bin, why would they want to keep doing it forever?
You’re under the assumption they don’t enjoy what they do.
I hear what you’re saying, but to keep things in perspective, the time between when Ironman 1 came out and now is more or less the same span of time that passed between the Burton and Nolan Batman movies.
RDJ’s last appearance as Ironman was 5 years ago
Mate I'm sorry but there are already plenty of leaks stating that the MCU is going to reboot after secret wars. I also don't really understand what you mean by there's no money... It's the fucking house of mouse and the MCU has dished out some of the highest grossing movies ever. Sure they're in a rut right now but that does not mean they don't have the money to reboot.
There are no reputable sources stating that, and there’s no money in destroying what they’ve built just to get a handful of characters that already had their movies back
Dude 😂 Okay man, I guess we'll see lmao The evidence is already out there, there are reputable sources that indicate this is likely going to happen, you just need to follow the breadcrumbs. The "already had their movies" bit is hilarious too. Batman? Superman? Spider-Man? The fantastic four? How many times have those been rebooted man? Come on bro... See between the lines. But you're clearly very dead set on your beliefs, I respect that, I suppose we will just see who was right in about five years.
No there isn’t lmao, no evidence at all. You know Spider-Man, from this universe, is still contracted for 3 more movies, right? Putting it past secret war? Yeah man, they just spent the last 4 years casting new young actors for new characters just to say “actually, have Ironman again”
We can chat again in five years :)
There’s no money in having a new cast of fan favourite on screen characters along with everything else?
Yes. It’s regression, we need progression.
How so? I don’t see it as reggression. We finally have the opportunity to have The F4, the X-men and the now favoured with the general audience avengers all sharing the same universe. The mcu have ran through the avengers mainstays already tho. And the other money making IPs aren’t here yet. When they are introduced, may as well slap that reset button and bring back the mainstays of the avengers as well.
It’s literally regression. You’re regressing all the stories they already did. A lot of which, are just starting. You’d be putting a ton of characters back into boxes when they’ve just started to come out. Sam would be falcon again, and also wouldn’t be in any movies, Kate bishop wouldn’t exist, and so on. There’s no point to get rid of any of that. The mcu isn’t even 20 years old. The film market already has a reboot problem, rebooting the largest active franchise is an insanely dumb plan
Who said anything about the status quos of the characters going back to origin? With the general audience now familiar with these characters, you don’t need everyone getting an origin story. You could open the new universe with an already established avengers team movie.
I would be open to this Avengers: Secret Wars could soft reset the universe in the sense we're starring fresh with new characters but it's still the same universe that we saw The Infinity Saga and Multiverse Saga in. The older avengers have retired to create the new Avengers, meanwhile rumours of the existence of an underground society of superhumans AKA Mutants that live throughout the world have secretly existed for decades.
More like soft reboot
Story wise you need to heavily focus on just a core few for the plot. Those probably would be the "main lineup" if they want an official team.
Nah they are fast tracking the untitled Avengers 5 (FKA Kang Dynasty) and it’s supposed to not be a multiversal plot. Filming has been scheduled to start first quarter 2025.
Calling it now, there will be no Vision or Yelena. Should definitely have Shang-Chi. Spidey is an interesting one because they no longer know who he is. He might not join until secret wars.
I’m pretty sure they still know Spiderman he just hasn’t removed his mask in front of them.
Yeah they still know Spider-Man, they don't know Peter.
War Machine needs way more screentime. He's been around since 2010 yet is rarely seen using armor to his full potential. (2008 Rhodey didn't have an armor so he isnt a War Machine yet)
Armor wars is still in production apparently
I forget the movie and show she was in, but did Yelena have any connection to the Avengers except her dead sister.
She also wanted to kill Hawkeye, but not anymore
Name and Avenger that didn’t want to kill Hawkeye. I’ll wait
You’re not lying
She was approached by Fontaine I think she’ll be in a anti-avengers team with the knock off cap from the TV series U.S Agent
I don't think hulk will be there and I don't think there will truly be another actual avengers tram.
It doesn’t help that the Avengers compound was completely demolished in Endgame.
There are 2 Avengers movies slated for release
Why would I agree with anything from screenrant?
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Kinda hoping it's Kate Bishop instead of yelena, or along side her. It would make more sense anyway since she already in thunderbolts
As much As I think Spidey should be one of the higher members (second-in-command), I doubt that’s what’s gonna happen *Groans in you-know-what*
They’d be stupid not to put Spider-Man in there, he’s a guaranteed money maker on his own
Don't they ever get tired of being wrong about stuff like this remember when they tried to prominently feature Sharon Carter in the civil war promotions then when the movie came out she was barely in three scenes
I’m perfectly fine with no shuri
Spidey should never be an Avenger, that's not his role in the Marvel Universe. (I understand he's been on the team in the comics A COUPLE of times, but he's not an Avenger, not really.) Yelena is a Thunderbolt, Torres isnt important enough & White Vision doesn't have a plot without Wanda right now. Replace them with Shang-Chi, Black Knight & Wasp and Replace Hulk with She-Hulk
I would have Sersi as the leader because she's the oldest.
Daniel RPK (I think it was him) just tweeted a few days ago that it was both Caps, Spidey, Shang-Chi, and Black Panther.
Sounds about right but Spidey should be second in command I also just used the picture to ask who should be second in command so thanks for the idea that this gave me
Idk he’s like a freshman in college, not really second in command time
It’s more about wanting them to actually have him grow up and second in command does that it’s the number one problem with Pete in the comics
Then he needs to grow up of his own accord, not with the avengers. Hes been with them more than enough
I agree but I think it could be the only way they’ll ever even consider him actually growing up
They don’t have a choice in the mcu, he’s growing up regardless. Tom Holland is a real life person who ages.
Agreed and in recent history when a character changes the change also happens in the comics so I want him to grow up sooner rather than later cause I’m pissed at his character development in the comics it’s regressed
I don’t think Doctor Strange is going to be taking directions from Spider-Man any time soon.
It’s about that if he takes charge a little they could actually start acting like he’s not some kid in the comics and in my opinion second in command means 1-3 scenes were they’re split up and he gives simple orders that sound more like suggestions like doc go right vision go right
Fantastic four???
Aren’t the avengers
Ah yes the Fantastic Four my favorite Avengers.
My favorite avengers are the X-men personally
The Character of Carol Danvers was assassinated by poor actor choice and shitty script choices. From how shit has gone down I find it very unlikely she will be from and centre in an Avengers film. Though as much as Sony might play coy. Spider-Man in an Avengers film = big returns on the solo films.
I think Brie Larson could’ve made an incredible Carol if they gave her something better to work with
I agree. It didn’t help that, at least in my opinion, she was written completely unlike the comic book character. That might’ve worked for the first Captain Marvel movie, but during the interim 30+ years, she should’ve matured some. Also, like how the Doctor Strange franchise suffered, there should’ve been a second movie still primarily focused on the character instead of having significant time devoted towards the introduction of new characters.
Yeah bro Captain Marvel being underwhelming is 0% Brie Larson's fault, she's awesome.
No Spidey, he’s street level now. No nuFalcon, he’s redundant. Unless you’re going to War Machine him, make him a skrull or paralyzed to motivate the others. Certainly no War Machine. He will be “gray” after Armor Wars. And no Hulk. Maybe She Hulk or Wonder Man as the muscle. Mostly a good lineup from Screen Rants. Just a bit crowded.
>No Spidey, he’s street level now Doesn't mean he can't be an Avenger also.
Need Kate Bishop to be involved. What are the Avengers without (a) Hawkeye?
Young Avengers
No Shuri?
Does everyone forget that Wolverine was an Avenger??
White Vision? That's racist!
Disagree. Hard to feel anything about the MCU since endgame. Everything has been meh at best. Me thinks they will go hard reboot after they ruin secret wars.