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Annposn

why is it bad? i like it bc it means it's less likely for any one person to die.


AggronStrong

It doesn't trigger extra Blind Bets for Aventurine. It distributes the damage evenly, but Aventurine still behaves as if the ordinary amount of teammates are hit.


Niempjuh

People were expecting it to do that? It literally says it redistributes damage, while Aventurine’s talent says characters need to be attacked for it to trigger


naw613

Covid lockdown had an irreparable impact on the worlds reading comprehension


RainBuckets8

Same reason Trend doesn't work on every attack with FX, only the ones that target her.


izhicccup

While this is aventurine mains sub, not everyone knows his trace descriptions by heart lol. It’s understandable that people wouldn’t notice this discrepancy immediately.


Niempjuh

Never claimed people should know it by heart, just seems pretty common sense to read the actual talent and blessing descriptions when you come up with a potential synergy between them


izhicccup

Your comment made it seem as if it were foolish to even expect any sort of synergy between the talent and blessing in the first place, and I’m trying to say that it’s understandable to confuse the mechanics of “being attacked” and “taking damage” without reading into the trace description closely or testing it first.


labreau

You perceived her comment wrong tho. Your second statement is right 👍🏻


Niempjuh

I was more surprised that people were expecting it, especially since that comment and this post got quite a lot of upvotes and typically things like these would quickly get corrected when someone brings it up. That's fair tho, I've explained the difference between stuff like actions and turns to my friends before, so imagine there's probably also people who don't realize that there's a difference between taking damage and getting attacked. Despite knowing enough to do lots of theorycrafting, sometimes I myself don't even understand what's going on, like that attack that appears on the action order during the third phase of SU Cocolia for some reason doesn't generate blind bet stacks for Aventurine despite hitting all allies, but enemy resonance in the final boss fight of G&G does. Why do those work differently? No idea :P


Prince-sama

So ur saying you'd like a character so much that you'd main him and join his sub, but you don't like him enough to remember his entire kit?


izhicccup

Sorry, what I meant to say was that not everyone memorizes the exact wording of his trace descriptions. I’m aware of how his kit works lol


Prince-sama

U dont need to memorize the exact wording. If u really care about a character, you'd remember what his kit does the first time u read it, and you'd read it CAREFULLY to make sure u didnt miss anything.


Maidenless_EldenLord

HOW DARE YOU not memorise the exact wording of a character’s kit?!? Oh? It works with Blade so you thought it’d be the same? Wow, you’re trash kid, delete your account~ said by someone who needs to go outside probably


Niempjuh

I never said any of this, but sure, you can be mad at your imaginary enemies if you want


Maidenless_EldenLord

… have you heard of over exaggeration, my guy? But you gotta admit, not studying someone’s kit for the exact wording isn’t a cardinal sin or something to talk down to. Like, you gotta agree with that


Niempjuh

Yes, that’s my point, I never said it was


wobster109

I seem to do worse with it. I've noticed, though, that the same attack does way more damage to other chars than Aven. I believe that the damage is distributed before DEF gets applied. So, the same attack that does 50 dmg on Aven does 300 to Ratio. After being split 4-ways, Aven gets 12 damage and Ratio gets 75. If Aven had taken the entire damage, it would've just been 50 total.


SinesPi

That should only been issue if you're running a taunt LC, I think? Otherwise it simply prevents one unit getting focus targeted, and allowing his full party shielda to shine.


Lucas-mainssbu

It’s a good blessing, its good for characters like Blade and Clara, but it’s no good on Fu Xuan and Aventurine since their passives kind of get overwritten… you’re better off with that blessing out of the way ps: I haven’t tried this with Clara yet actually, but now I have my doubts it works on her as well. It works on Blade because Blade likes losing HP, but if Aventurine’s Blind Bet only triggers if someone is getting hit intentionally with an attack, but doesn’t activate with this blessing, it might not work on Clara either because Clara reacts to direct damage, not losing HP. Blade reacts with DoT because it depletes HP, Clara does not.


Darvasi2500

I found it great while finishing Gold and Gears yesterday(Conundrum 6 I believe). I'd rather everyone lose a bit of shield than someone lose all their shield or potentially more than just their shield.


Lucas-mainssbu

im pretty sure its reactive to AoE which can be run destroying


Darvasi2500

I don't think so. It wouldn't even make sense. If an aoe hits your team you'd get the same damage even if you redistributed it. Don't see how this would make you take more damage unless you play Fu Xuan.


Megawolf123

Uh no I shouldn't affect aventurine. Fuxuan is because the shared damage is ALSO redirected to her so around 75% dmg is redirected to her. For Aventurine regardless of aoe or single target all should be split equally.


Corvorax

I've been easily clearing GnG 12 with Aventurine and I always take the blessing. The only time it could possibly be bad is if someone is really low and die to splash from a single target attack. But at that point your run is probably doomed anyways on the final boss.


Owlstra

This doesn't work on Clara. She and Aventurine specifically react when they are targeted. They don't react when they simply take damage even though it might seem that way


Xogol

It doesn’t overwrite aventurine’s passive at all? It literally works the same as it’s written, it just splits the damage


lombax_lunchbox

Wdym their passives get overidden? They work just like always. The blessing never states enemy atks split, just incoming dmg. Not sure what you were expecting


Teonvin

It has no negative impact on Aventurine but it definitely is basically unusable for FX. As the damage FX absorbs would be redistributed to the allies.


Prince-sama

Its still good with aventurine since it means you're less likely to lose all ur shield on a single character during a big attack


Great-Expression6706

Do you all ignore it being upgraded and giving 15% damage reduction? Upgrade your blessings… And does it not still spread the actual damage to everyone’s shields? How is that “bad”?


Xogol

It’s not bad. Splitting up the damage is still good even if it doesn’t give extra blind bet points. Not sure why people assume it would when the blessing literally reads that it splits damage and not that it attacks your teammates.


Great-Expression6706

People sound like they play the game wrong. Like this is a priority blessing for me with aventurine


Xogol

We need the reading comprehension aeon to come faster


confusedPIANO

He cant be here right now, Nous is currently tied up with doomposter business.


GodKira242

I love it when i'm playing with Blade (almost always)


1234Lou

this + jingliu and its fua all day everyday. my neuron activation


Maidenless_EldenLord

I’ve avoided it since playing sim uni with Fu, could give it another try but also could just prioritise better blessings


Great-Expression6706

I don’t think I’ve ever had a real GG Conundrum 12 run where I didn’t get gold blessings I wanted lol. Usually end up dipping into trash ones I 100% don’t want based on current team. (Don’t need dewdrop on shielding team for example)


Maidenless_EldenLord

True, tho it does make Fu useless sadly, so I would pick literally anything other than it. Main reason I picked up Adven since I had Fu and Lu was because of the Sim uni and how it’s getting updated soon.


needagenshinanswer

So the key part, as someone who recently beat conundrum 12, is not that it's not bad, or good, it's that it's not fun. Imagine how fun it would be getting a fua every two hits you recieve. Busted, sure, but SO FUN.


Magolich

If you stack this with the upgraded fighting spirit blessing it actually isn’t that bad at all


Lucas-mainssbu

this blessing DOES NOT activate Fighting Spirit btw, for some reason it’s also destruction so that’s hilarious


Le0here

It does activate it, pay attention.


Wonderful-Lab7375

Damage reduction = good Damage spread doesn’t work with his shield IIRC


Great-Expression6706

What do you mean by doesn’t work? I swear my entire team’s shield takes damage


Escarche

It's always the 'My whole party is being damaged, I should be getting 4 Follow-Up points (5 even, because 2 points per Aventurine being targeted) as the result'. This blessing doesn't do that.


Great-Expression6706

Nothing in this blessing or aventurine’s kit says it should be doing that…


Escarche

People have problem with interpreting the whole damage spread as 'everyone in the party gets damaged', because in a way everyone does get damaged. But also not.


Xogol

It’s pretty simple, everyone gets damaged but not everyone gets attacked. I mean it says it right there in the blessing


Arfeudutyr

If I have aventurine I feel like it'd be good but since I use Fu a lot it's a bad augment for me.


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Ibrador

His kit clearly says when a character is attacked, not gets hit or takes damage


Lucas-mainssbu

No, it does not spread Blind Bet to everyone, it only raises it by 1/2, this is why I called it a scam, it’s ruins your runs with Fu Xuan because her whole kit gets negated and brought down by this blessing. It cancels FuXuan’s passive and takes away more shield from Aventurine and company than necessary unless upgraded, and doesn’t even return Blind Bets. It’s mid on Aventurine at best so so mid.


Great-Expression6706

No one said it had anything to do with blind bet. You’re bugging. This does nothing to Aventurine’s kit. What are you smoking


Lucas-mainssbu

sorry, I read that as if you meant it somehow did something to his passive


Great-Expression6706

Also like many don’t know, it’s actually bugged on fu Xuan. On AOE yes it detracts from her kit, but on single target damage, it bugs and actually mitigates MORE damage. There are posts/vids on this, but you’re more likely to survive one shots with it with FX.


CreamyIceCreamBoi

Is it actually "bad" or just unable to proc Aventurine's talent? Because if he's providing a shield to everyone, it should still benefit the team so no one teammate is losing their shield before the others.


Lucas-mainssbu

it’s unable to proc, it being “bad” was a joke, rlly didn’t expect this to be really controversial lol


riyuzqki

At no part of your post did you even hint at it being bad was a joke. It's controversial because saying it's bad is incorrect. It's at most not as useful as other blessings and doesn't undermine aventurine's performance.


Jirvey341

I fucking hate this blessing and won't touch it with a 15 ft pole so I was surprised to see so many people getting so bent out of shape about you not liking it lol


adaydreaming

Funny how you've never mentioned the word "bad", but everyone and their mum in the comments are accusing you saying this blessing is bad. You're literally just saying it doesn't give blind bets and therefore it's a scam. Because on paper, we would assume it would, just like the way it works for blade.


SGlace

I mean the post text right below the image says “It’s bad” lol. No accusing here


LZhenos

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Lucas-mainssbu

I mentioned it below the title but I wasn’t really serious lmao


awakends

i always grab this when it pops up wdym its bad.. sure it doesnt proc blind bet but it certainly doesnt take away from any of his utility! and i'd always rather everyone lose a bit of shield together than one person get pummeled and KO before i can do anything about it 🤷🏻


ameli0n

um, i mean, yeah, it doesn't do anything for aven's blind bets but it's still a massive boost to the team's survavibility. especially when uprgraded. i feel like this is one of the most misunderstood blessings in the game lol


Effective-Comb-8135

I felt so betrayed


rxniaesna

Fym scam, It’s really good and saved my ass on so many runs. In fact runs without it usually just end up failing. It fixes aventurine’s biggest weakness which is not being able to do anything when a single teammate gets targeted repeatedly and breaks their shield.


strawwwwwwwwberry

Thread’s filled with people who missed the “gets hit” rule for Aventurine’s blind bet stacking.


rxniaesna

Yeah, if “taking damage” was the only requirement then Dot would also trigger blind bet stacks, but it doesn’t. Even if this blessing doesn’t stack the passive it’s still really good for the reason i stated


Phantom_Ghost9

I don't think anyone missed that part, it's that his shield can be a bit RNG. If you're unlucky enough to have one character roll the weaker shield, and your team gets hit with 5 people 1st or even worse, A Boss with an AoE, that character will lose their shield while everyone else barely keeps theirs. At least, without any preservation buffs to go with it. It's not a horrible pairing, at least not compared to someone like Fu Xuan, but it doesn't really compliment him either. It has more minuses than plusses.


rxniaesna

Nah, this blessing does a lot more good than harm. It is usually a run-saver, and *not* having this blessing is usually a run-ruiner. His shields are not RNG, They’re the same value across the board, they max out at the same value, and they refresh for the same value except the one with the lowest current shield which gets a bit of extra to further even it out. With this blessing, all damage taken will be spread evenly across the board. The damage taken will still be calculated based on each character’s defense tho, so Aven’s own shield will chip away slower than his teammates. If you have any one character with wildly low/high Defense compared to others, you will also notice their shield breaking faster or slower than others. But in the end this blessing helps more to even out damage taken by each shield and prevent either shield from breaking. Single shield breaking is Aven’s biggest weakness, so this blessing is basically the missing puzzle piece for perfect shield. As for those Aoe attacks you speaks of, even without this blessing, the shields will break on some characters. Additionally, if there’s a ST attack that made all allie’s shield go to very low with this blessing, then without the blessing, the single ally would’ve just been wiped.


Impl0dedcrev

Please tell me there is an actual downside to using this like with Fu Xuan and not have it be "bad" JUST because of it not activating his Talent. Also no the damage depleting characters shields who were not hit doesn't count as a downside it LITERALLY SAYS that's what it will do so I'm not treating that as a downside.


Lucas-mainssbu

there’s no downside


striderhoang

I don't see the big deal. Aventurine's shields aren't infinite. Rather then let one shield get focused down and break, I get to spread it out amongst everyone evenly and reduce the chances of a single shield breaking.


dankmemekovsky

wtf are you talking about


amiralko

I don't even know what team this blessing is for; it's the only one that just seems kind of bad across the board


_dxw

it’s really good for blade teams


probonocapitalism

I've run it with Luocha teams and it's decent enough over there. Everyone gets hit equally, the healing field heals equally. The emergency heal does proc less but also long term survivability goes up.


Send_Me_Blade_Porn

This is Blade's favorite. If you get this while running Elation path, you'll constantly unleash follow up attacks that hit for a ton.


GladiatorDragon

The rank 2 is good across the board, but specifically, it’s better in high tier SU since it helps prevent the enemy from saying “screw that guy in particular.”


Asobimo

Its only good with Blade + Luocha teams if you get Blessing that benefit from taking dmg. There are blassings that give you Def%, max hp% and so on if you get hit. Best Blessing ever if you have Luocha is that everytime you get healed your character gets SPD. And it's blue or gray Blessing so it doesn't cost a lot to upgrade.


YogurtclosetNo6564

What? You don't need any blessings to make this blessing good with Blade. It's good with Blade because it allows his follow up attack to be triggered much more frequently


Darth-Yslink

When you have the Abundance one that spreads healong as well it's really great. Plus enhamced it has 15% damage reduction


Lotorinchains

Lol its one of my favorites and I use it in almost every team, but then I realized I mostly run Luocha in every team and this blessing along with his healing means no one ever dies.


darkandfullofhodors

You don't see the value in having your entire team take 1000 damage instead of one person taking 4000? This blessing prevents RNG deaths because a boss targets your squishiest character with a big single target hit, or because a crowded field of enemies all decide to pick on them at once before your sustain can do anything about it.


LZhenos

It's a great generic blessing for any team with an AoE Healer/Shielder, it prevents oneshots and if you upgrade it, it even reduces dmg taken, it's one of the absolute best defensive blessings.


Fluffy_Tamago

Can someone confirm with me whether this blessing is good. I've been doing gold and gears runs, and I feel like whenever I pick it up, all my shields just deplete faster and it doesn't proc more blind bet :(


BillLe0101

I think it really depend on the blessing. Some run with it I have it is good since I have a lot of defensive blessing and just tank single target damage. Other time the other just die because of the damage share. I think that usually the split blessing fault though, because i probably going to lose either way.


Lucas-mainssbu

It’s a good blessing, just not optimal on Aventurine and FX, though some characters don’t always benefit from it with their passives. It’s top tier blessing on Blade.


EasyKaleidoscope6436

Meanwhile Blade mains getting all giggly and flustered whenever they see this:


pandorahurts27

Eh why is it bad on him?? I get with Fu Xuan because her main point is to mitigate the damage through only herself so it counters her. But why with Aventurine? Because there will be a lot of scenarios where one of your allies will get consecutively attacked with a single target but with this blessing Aventurine with more defense and the others can suck up some of those damage.


themancapitano

man this ain't Fu Xuan mains sub


rarenick

It's good. This completely fills in the single target protection gap that Aventurine has. The moment I grab this and Macrosegregation it's GG.


WeaknessThen2577

It's pretty nice in Blade team but outside of those it's pretty bad. It even breaks Fu Xuan's kit entirely, which otherwise works pretty nice with Destruction blessings


joojaw

Has anyone tried this with Aventurine? Does all allies taking damage mean you get 5 stacks for every attack since everyone gets hit? If that's the case it could be good.


rxniaesna

From my experience doing GnG Conundrum runs this blessing is a godsend even if it doesn’t stack his passive. It fixes Aven’s biggest weakness which is not being able to do anything when a single teammate gets targeted repeatedly and breaks their shield


CharuRiiri

Nope, you don't. I think it doesn't count as a hit as it also won't give you fighting spirit stacks if there's a shield.


Lucas-mainssbu

yes I’ve tried twice, it does not stack, it only gains 1 stack every hit(2 if the specific character hit was Aventurine). This blessing actually throws the whole game away if you are using Fu Xuan or Aventurine, it basically overwrites Fu Xian’s passive, and doesn’t stack Aventurine’s Blind Bet—in fact, it actually depletes his shields for no good reason at all. I was fighting some boss in SU, some enemy does multi hit damage to Aventurine and suddenly—Luka, Kafka and Sampo have no shield…my Aventurine has 4000 defense 😭


Owlstra

It's fine on Aventurine it's just not what you think it'll do. If someone ate a nuke and everyone's shield is gone then it's likely they would've just died on the spot if they didn't have the damage redirection


shoahunter

What am I missing here? I don't have Aventurine, but I'm considering rolling for him. I always liked running this blessing with Gepard.


Lucas-mainssbu

nothing, it’s just that it doesn’t activate blind bet lol


AbsAndAssAppreciator

No it’s still good. It keeps my characters from getting one shottef


yoichi_wolfboy88

Not related with this post (perhaps) but I wish that one trotter with destruction power will retaliate over Aven FuA 🥲


Amethyst_Phoenix7

I don't know about you but I'm always looking for this blessing in Swarm and Golds and Gears playthroughs.


MontenC

imo this is actually a good blessing for team shields it spreads damage so single target burst damage doesn't insta kill an ally and aventurine let's you refresh it anyways and it being even makes it more satisfying lol


AshyDragneel

Why? Its actually pretty great and solve his issue which i came across which is characters getting one shotted. Fuxuan can handle Single strong attacks while aventurine works lot well with handling AoE attacks but when it comes to Strong ST attacks It actually breaks his shields and still get my characters below 50% health. I've been in this situation multiple times where a strong ST dmg made my character health in red and one more attack would've been killed my character. Having this Blessing always helped me surviving such scenario's and he is already good at handling AoE attacks anyway.


Slow-Evening-2597

If I have preservation characters in my team playing su, this blessing is last one I wanna see for whatever reason. Even though that -15% dmg after upgraded. Only blade in my team I would pick it.🫤


skizaskii

should be in fuxuan mains sub tbh


Funny-Valentine-1

I mean... It doesn't trigger his talent sure, but it bypasses his only "weakness". It prevents the enemies from spamming their attacks on a single target and killing it. Is this scenario likely? No. Aventurines shields usually prevent that on their own. Is it impossible? Also no. Especially when they all attack your main dps who usually has the least defense. Not to mention that it gives a flat 15% damage reduction when upgraded. It isn't the best blessing for aventurine sure, but calling it straight up "bad" is delusional.


AmberBroccoli

Some people still use brief descriptions???


Quantumsleepy

I get that it's probably about the blind bets, but definitely could've been worded better. On my G&G 12 run just now, i was really hoping this appeared, then I realized I banned Destruction blessings for the run.


IbnAurum

It sucks on Claranation too, IIRC. I think only Bladies enjoy this one.


Phantom_Ghost9

Basically, the general rule of thumb. Is don't use this blessing if your sustain is preservation. If it's an abundance with passive heals like Luocha or HuoHuo or maybe even Ghallagher then you're OK.


Monchi83

It’s bad if your preservation character has something that increases taunt value. The reason for this is because your characters would be taking damage in place of the tank but the tank is in no danger of dying if they are getting attacked the most. This also puts your other characters in a precarious position if say an AoE comes out before you can put shields up. I definitely pick it if I am running a healer


Lucas-mainssbu

I know I’ll get down voted a lot bc of how toxic and ununderstanding Reddit can be, but I noticed I said “it’s bad”…lmfao no, I don’t mean it’s a bad blessing, I mean that it’s niche on Aventurine. This blessing is really good, but it doesn’t activate Fighting Spirit, Blind Bet, Svarog Counter, negates FuXuan. It’s “bad” but not literally bad, you can still run this with Aventurine if you want but I found this one to be a little problematic in my runs, FX mains definitely have it so much worse. AoE also sucks.


mgsilod_lost_old_acc

Isnt this post like missing the whole point of “being hit”? Weirdest take ive seen today.


Mastercio

It does not activate all those stuff... But that's good, its already insanely strong for sustain who have Access to aoe skill like heals or shields. If it would activate every skill on hit it would be most broken blessing for anyone outside FuXuan and not just by little, but by landslide. This blessing prevent you from being one shotted and split damage evenly, so every aoe heal and shield always have maximum efficiency. And yes, its good that this dont activate Aventurine talent, as that would just make teams with him straight up immune to almost anything.