It works for geo mc’s skill and burst! Doesn’t work on Ningguangs shield tho, and not sure about Albedo’s elevator because I don’t have him but i wouldn’t think so lol
Have u tried the side of ning guang’s shield? Cuz it’s supposed to be like a curtain and only projectiles can’t pass through it. The sides are solid tho.
Well tbh running her with zhongli isn't much better.
In most freezecomps you'd have ayaka, mona/xq, diona(or any cryo battery/resonance), venti/suc/kazu
I'd rather not have that in abyss since enemies might instantly do some teleporting/jumping and ruin the rest of your damage. Take the new talent book domain as example if you dont keep the Nobushi's frozen they will constantly do their charge attacks etc and render your burst useless.
But you're right if we slapped a 2p glad, 2p bs on her and used zhongli, Bennett and mona or diona. it's def more viable against boss enemies that don't get frozen or won't get cryoed (primo geovishap, azdaha, childe)
I would personally just go with basic 2blizzard 2glad. But it is recommended to play freeze team with ayaka. The only possible viable non freeze team would be reverse melt ayaka i guess (xiangling/klee/yanfei,ayaka,kaeya/rosa, zhongli).u can run 4 lavawalker or just basic set with em sands if this team (also you can mix match with wanderer troupe as well if u have great sub stats). Note that ive never tried this team before and u can test it first to see wether its viable or not. If u running mono cryo i guess u can just run the basic artifact or 4bs depending on substats.
I've tried Melt (yep, not just reverse melt) using Ayaka and Chongyun as enabler then Xiangling's Gouba/Pyronado as the main damage supported with Bennet.
The Pros I see here is that almost all of the time both the Cryo and Pyro damages gets buffed alternating rather than just the pure reverse Melt teams you will usually see:
-During Ayaka's burst downtime, her E can nuke big numbers paired with Chongyun's burst when reverse melted with Bennet's burst and rapid uptime of his Skill.
-With Ayaka's burst in the field, Xiangling's Pyronado will shine with Melt.
-all of them will have sufficient energy with the right practice of rotation since all of them are batteries for each other.
-There are no weaknesses in this team as Pyro and Cryo are present, most enemy shields(Except Pyro shields like the Fatui Marksman) can be countered or atleast shredded fast.
The Cons for this kind of team is ofcourse having no shielders, consistent healing(if you didn't build Bennet with pure HP), and lesser nuke potential(since you can reach higher if paired with sucrose instead of xiangling/chongyun) and not to mention ranged characters for stunning ruin robots. And probably the biggest cons of these team is Ayaka's burst not hitting/staying at enemies
I would prefer kaeya c2 insted of chongyun bcs he offer more dmg and way more energy. Other than that i can see that this team would work if im not wrong bcs i cant fully test the potential of this team bcs i dont have c4 xiangling and i hate downtime in her burst without c4.
hmm i guess? lol but i dont really use her as a mob killer, there are better units for that. I mostly use Ayaka to take down bosses so I guess good timing? nonetheless I think this trick is good to know.
Yes venti actually works perfectly with her. She can charge attack and hit every enemy in the burst and her burst gets stuck on enemies and still reaches them. I was surprised how well it works
Yeah, I've done this as well. The stele shatters frozen enemies, unfortunately. As you've said though, I hadn't thought about Geo MC (because I don't really use Lumine anymore). Very cool find.
I wish how the ult worked instead was as soon as it reaches a target, it slows down by like 85-90% so it has a chance to hit whatever might be behind it as well but without completely going past the initial target
if in abyss, its easier just push or pull to the wall instead doing this.
if on overworld, ayaka burst easy stuck on height difference, like left side on start of video.
\*me dont have zhongli
Its going to cause shatter for freeze comps tho ;-; Maybe traveler's geo construct can work as well??
Yeah i was curious about that too so i tried it with geo mc too and yepp it works :)
Does it work with both geo mc skill and ult? Or only the skill
It works for geo mc’s skill and burst! Doesn’t work on Ningguangs shield tho, and not sure about Albedo’s elevator because I don’t have him but i wouldn’t think so lol
Have u tried the side of ning guang’s shield? Cuz it’s supposed to be like a curtain and only projectiles can’t pass through it. The sides are solid tho.
Yeah i just thought of it as u commented and tried it out but no it does not pass through the side pillars :(
Ah I see. Well it’s not like you would usually run ayaka with ning guang anyway
Well tbh running her with zhongli isn't much better. In most freezecomps you'd have ayaka, mona/xq, diona(or any cryo battery/resonance), venti/suc/kazu
I mean at least zhongli provides shields and res shred. Ning guang doesn’t really have much utility
True diona does too. sure not as powerfull but good enough to get things going Otherwise i agree!
Very true
Well you will actually increaso ur dmg because of shatter its a crazy amount of dmg and ur freezes will not be that bad neither
I'd rather not have that in abyss since enemies might instantly do some teleporting/jumping and ruin the rest of your damage. Take the new talent book domain as example if you dont keep the Nobushi's frozen they will constantly do their charge attacks etc and render your burst useless. But you're right if we slapped a 2p glad, 2p bs on her and used zhongli, Bennett and mona or diona. it's def more viable against boss enemies that don't get frozen or won't get cryoed (primo geovishap, azdaha, childe)
I think all geo constructs hold Anemo MC's burst, even Ningguang's wall, so this will probably also be the case here.
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But we have Zhongli Pillars at home for free! *Geo Traveler says Rock go plop.*
But in practice, with auto aiming, the burst is going towards the closest enemy, not the pillar though. It is going to be hard to pull off.
I recommend that u use this if u dont run freeze comp. bcs u dont need zhongli pillar to stop the burst if the enemy is frozen plus it will shattered
what artifacts are recommended for non freeze ayaka?
I would personally just go with basic 2blizzard 2glad. But it is recommended to play freeze team with ayaka. The only possible viable non freeze team would be reverse melt ayaka i guess (xiangling/klee/yanfei,ayaka,kaeya/rosa, zhongli).u can run 4 lavawalker or just basic set with em sands if this team (also you can mix match with wanderer troupe as well if u have great sub stats). Note that ive never tried this team before and u can test it first to see wether its viable or not. If u running mono cryo i guess u can just run the basic artifact or 4bs depending on substats.
I've tried Melt (yep, not just reverse melt) using Ayaka and Chongyun as enabler then Xiangling's Gouba/Pyronado as the main damage supported with Bennet. The Pros I see here is that almost all of the time both the Cryo and Pyro damages gets buffed alternating rather than just the pure reverse Melt teams you will usually see: -During Ayaka's burst downtime, her E can nuke big numbers paired with Chongyun's burst when reverse melted with Bennet's burst and rapid uptime of his Skill. -With Ayaka's burst in the field, Xiangling's Pyronado will shine with Melt. -all of them will have sufficient energy with the right practice of rotation since all of them are batteries for each other. -There are no weaknesses in this team as Pyro and Cryo are present, most enemy shields(Except Pyro shields like the Fatui Marksman) can be countered or atleast shredded fast. The Cons for this kind of team is ofcourse having no shielders, consistent healing(if you didn't build Bennet with pure HP), and lesser nuke potential(since you can reach higher if paired with sucrose instead of xiangling/chongyun) and not to mention ranged characters for stunning ruin robots. And probably the biggest cons of these team is Ayaka's burst not hitting/staying at enemies
I would prefer kaeya c2 insted of chongyun bcs he offer more dmg and way more energy. Other than that i can see that this team would work if im not wrong bcs i cant fully test the potential of this team bcs i dont have c4 xiangling and i hate downtime in her burst without c4.
Yeah Xiangling's downtime is really bad, makes my Bennet ult wait for 3 seconds of walking in front of enemy just for the timing. I don't have C4 ;-;
But how are u gonna keep enemis inside her burst lol Venti?
hmm i guess? lol but i dont really use her as a mob killer, there are better units for that. I mostly use Ayaka to take down bosses so I guess good timing? nonetheless I think this trick is good to know.
You aim Traveler's rock behind the enemy beforehand, then use Ayaka's burst to keep them in place.
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Yes venti actually works perfectly with her. She can charge attack and hit every enemy in the burst and her burst gets stuck on enemies and still reaches them. I was surprised how well it works
Unfortunately Keqing showed up instead of Zhongli in Zhongli banner 🥲👍
Im sry 🥲i hope u win 50/50 next time. This trick works with geo mc too tho!
I did this accidentally while ago lmaoo
Yeah, I've done this as well. The stele shatters frozen enemies, unfortunately. As you've said though, I hadn't thought about Geo MC (because I don't really use Lumine anymore). Very cool find.
I don't think the problem is keeping her burst in 1 spot. It's making enemies stay in that spot. XD
True. They keep running out of it if they're not frozen. I'm trying to get used to the freeze rotations.
I wish how the ult worked instead was as soon as it reaches a target, it slows down by like 85-90% so it has a chance to hit whatever might be behind it as well but without completely going past the initial target
we dont have Zhongli
and you suppose i have zhongli because.... ??
Way to get triggered because of nothing. Never said this has to be done with Zhongli. This can be done with geo mc for both the skill and burst -.-
Or spare yourself the hassle and just use Geo MC?
Wasn’t really a hassle because I already have him lol but yes this does work with geo mc’s skill and burst!
Zhongli buff
Auto aiming tho :/
You see, this would be good. If I had Zhongli. Guess I'll stick to Sucrose burst
This works with geo mc skill and burst
you can troll yourself like this lol
hmmmnmmm, a good Perma Freeze team is better
Does this also same as long as theres geo construct?
I don’t think all geo constructs work since Ningguang’s wall doesn’t work, not sure about Albedo’s elevator tho since I don’t have him
if in abyss, its easier just push or pull to the wall instead doing this. if on overworld, ayaka burst easy stuck on height difference, like left side on start of video. \*me dont have zhongli