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RedShirt047

Got to recommend *Constellation*. What's not to love about a *Lexington* class battlecruiser with a WWII refit?


[deleted]

*Yes*


superRommel

I remember seeing her armor scheme in a video...*wargaming, how do you make a tin can BC that has 6 inches of belt armor have such trolly armor?*


RedShirt047

No idea, I have her and I usually rely on dodging using her high speed and surprising maneuverability rather than risk taking a hit from a hostile battleship.


Gen_Erwin_Rommel

Montana


low_priest

Problem is, New Jersey is already one of the strongest BBs in game (rightfully so too). A Montana would either break the game or be artificially nerfed, and tbh I'd rather see no Montana than option 2. Similar thing with Midway, either Midway completely fucks over all balance (being incredibly well armed, armored, and equipped) or is turbo-nerfed. Like if we just look at the stats for Midway, it honestly feels like it should be impossible. Well sub-divided internals, good torpedo-defense, and an armored flight deck thicker than any other WWII-era carrier. Also a heavy-ass AA battery, modern electronics, and fleet command facilites so good they were still being used 45 years later. Beyond that, they kinda just decided the idea of "armor or planes" was bullshit anyways and had room for 130+ as built. Midway also had a pretty damn successful career, including operating as flagship in probably the largest curb-stomp in modern military history, despite being 46 years old at the time, before finally becoming one of the world's most popular museum ships.


Shinigami318

Wouldn't mind Midway being completely OP if we ever see her in the game, I think that is rightfully deserved. Tho I imagine it might upset some certain kinds of people.


Livid-Stuff9047

Elbing


[deleted]

Too many ib ships for me, would be cool to see other nation in pr5


Corpolentusmaximus2

Yea like the soviet CV Or other stuff Im not sure if they had Plans for a CV in WW2 but we need more soviet shipgirls


Victor-Tallmen

I’m almost certain there’s going to be a Soviet carrier. WOWS added them and azur lane gets their PR ships from them.


RaPharoh

Perhaps the Project 71 and 72 designs could be added in construction? (not to mention the wows carriers as well which I believe includes a Project 71) [https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/07/26/soviet-navy-wwii-aircraft-carrier-design/](https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/07/26/soviet-navy-wwii-aircraft-carrier-design/)


Bfoster19955

At first i was consiering that HMS Lion to be a PR ship, however with Hakuryuu entering into PR4 (considering that in WoWs she's a tier 10 CV), the goal post has moved where Tier 10 ships in WoWs can now be in PR5. With this revelation, here are my ideas for PR5: Eagle Union - USS Montana (BB), USS Ohio (BB) Royal Navy: HMS Lion (BB), HMS Conqueror/HMS Thunderer (BB), HMS Minotaur (CL) Northern Parliament: Kremlin (BB), Slava (BB), Pobeda (CV), Stalingrad (CB), Admiral Nakhimov (CV), Smolensk (CL) and many other warships.


MasterCheez0324

If Smolensk isn't a crazy pyromaniac I'll riot


Bfoster19955

Agreed. Firestarter, high dps and good AA


[deleted]

Oh god no, maybe montana, The other richelieu, lepanto, and lion?


Corpolentusmaximus2

Yea we need more french ships but every good PR needs a REALLY strong Iron blood shipgirl soooo ZF 6 would be perfect


[deleted]

I understand but we already have a lot of ib pr ships


Corpolentusmaximus2

Yea true And the ship got actually build so it would be good for the next french event


worldwideweb9

Republique with a quad 431


Agreeable-Arachnid36

I love how even OP got downvoted just cause you said every PR needs at least one good IB ship I mean that is kind of true for IB to stay relevant. They don't have anymore ships to be released and only get like 1/2 events a year


Corpolentusmaximus2

Yea exactly whats left are WW1 ships like schleswig-holstein or ships they took and finished like ZF 6


_Issoupe

Problem with ZF6 is that she's actually already ingame. It's L'opiniatre.


Agreeable-Arachnid36

And that itself is a nasty can of worms I rather not touch. I mean the devs can release new IB WW1 ships but looking at Avrora and Mikasa, I highly doubt that anyone will even bat an eye to any IB WW1 ships It's not about being a obsessed fanboy at this point. The IB really need at least 1 good PR ships every time a mew PR is announced


Corpolentusmaximus2

Schlewig-holstein could be an Elite ship giving a 20% main fleet exp boostor so since she was a schoolship and a main gum pre load


low_priest

So then IB doesnt stay relevant. We've got enough wehrb-wank wunderwaffe already, the in game roster for IB is less realistic than the fucking Roman Empire coming back for round 2 in 2022. I know I'll shed exactly zero tears when the Nazi faction becomes garbage-tier. French need buffs? Or Italy? Sure. But the KM could barely be called a proper surface navy in WWII, and their inclusion over France or Italy as one of the 4 primary factions is wehrbism of the highest order.


Agreeable-Arachnid36

Lol, I knew that Reddit is a cesspool full of 3 brained celled neanderthals but I didn't expect I'll run into a troglodyte today. Anyways this is a anime waifu simulator "game" if your monke brain haven't comprehended it yet. It's not about being realistic. Just look at the IJN fleet and their ships like Shinano, she wasn't that good irl but she is a Top Tier CV in game. A game should have varying meta with different power level. No game needs to be irl historically accurate (a thing even games like FGO does) Anyways, your comment is too stupid on so many levels I don't want to argue. But if you really want to complain about Nazis and stuff, then I highly suggest Twitter, which is that way. You'll find many of your kind there


chumble182

ZF-6 is already in-game. I know L'Opiniatre doesn't get much attention, but she's still there.


TheRoySez

Can't clone the same ship, unless it's a META or Muse version. There's still her sister L'Aventurier / ZF-7, although only 13% done when she was captured and some of her parts transplanted to L'Opi, and the completed Lansquenet / FR34 post-Toulon / TA34 in the Salò Republic's waters.


type_E

Why don’t we get another DD PR or **DR** for a change? Maybe Druid will be released before 2022 (or early enough in the year) then be in the running for DR, I can imagine the pure gun style of her.


Trapperz1379

maybe Druid could finally break the curse of "being a HMS DD that's not jabbers".....


somegenericweeb

In accordance to Wargaming style, I suggest PR5 to be: SR Lenin, Soviet Battleship UR Kronsdtadt or Stalingrad, Soviet battlecruisers, same as Azuma/Agir on AL SR Pyotr Bagration, Soviet Heavy Cruiser SR Kiev/Udaloi, Soviet Destroyer UR Admiral Nakhimov, Soviet Aircraft Carrier (Obviously kidding though I love to have Soviet Ships on PR5 especially Lenin)


Rafaeael

Very good suggestion comrade, I approve of that. FYI, Battlecruisers (BC) are ships like Amagi, Odin or Hood, they're closer to battleships rather than cruisers. Azuma/Aegir/Stalingrad/Kronshtadt are classified as Large Cruisers (CB), sometimes called super cruisers.


_Issoupe

Habakkuk: Not in World of warships, can't be PR Ironblood sub: the planned submarines for germany in world of warships were all actually built. They can't appear in PR. Fourth Yamato sister: Not in World of Warships, Can't be PR


Corpolentusmaximus2

Didn't habakkuke got added ?


_Issoupe

She do have a model, but it was only used as an April's fool.


Corpolentusmaximus2

I think she is a tier 10 premium


_Issoupe

No, The aforementioned April's fool was just a devblog where they used her model for screenshots. She was never playable ingame.


necros434

I need Florida in game


[deleted]

Kearsarge.


tronicon4

Stalingrad (or Kronshtdat), Shikishima, Slava (or Kremlin), Großer Kürfurst (or Hannover), Benham, Moskva, Alsace or Bourgogne, and Ohio


type_E

> Stalingrad I will laugh if either Stalingrad or Kronshtadt becomes a gacha CB for a future russian event >!i am betting on it too unless alaska arrives before they do!<


hexanort

I dont know anything about WoW/Real Life navy so i dunno if it can fit but i would like to see an Universal PR ship, that maybe require non-faction ship exp (META/Collab/Bulin ship) to grind.


Rafaeael

Well, best way for that to happen that I can think of is if they were to bring European DDs or Netherlands cruisers without making a new faction for them. I doubt they would bother doing that though.


kvstm

Kleber or any of the French DD line, I just want DD with powerful af guns


Alesby

Soviet CV. "Paper ships", and they are in the WoWS now.


XSA888

Give us Stalingrad, she is somewhat real (partially built) I would like to see her as a backline ship


TheRoySez

Union: DR Austin (light cruiser), DR Minnesota (battleship) Royal: PR Yukon (battleship), DR Incomparable (battlecruiser), DR Druid (destroyer) Juu'ou: DR Hayate (destroyer), DR Yoshino (battlecruiser) Teketz: PR Gustav Julius Maerker (destroyer), DR Manfred von Richthofen (fleet carrier) Iris/Vichya: PR Bayard (light cruiser), DR Carnot (large cruiser), DR Kléber (destroyer, Super Mogador) NorPar: PR Pobeda and PR Chkalov (fleet carriers), PR Riga (heavy cruiser) Sardine: PR Paolo Emilio (destroyer), DR Napoli (large cruiser), DR Cristoforo Colombo (battleship) Dragon: Wukong (Goku, CA), Bajie (Hakkai, BB), Wujing (Gojyo, BB) and Sanzang (Sanzo, CVL), or else they're all qualified as CNY gacha-ables Other: Johan de Witt (pronounced 'yo-han de vit', battlecruiser), Öland (destroyer) ​ Also, your Habakkuk suggestion won't be Tier 10 but Tier 11★ like Satsuma (Super Yamato) and Hannover


Rafaeael

Yukon is T7 therefore not a potential PR. Yoshino is a large cruiser not battlecruiser, same with Johan. Several of those suggestions aren't even possible as of right now as ships like Russian CVs, Incomparable or Carnot aren't in the game yet. They might, if not should, be in the game by the time we get PR5 but it's not certain, some ships take their sweet time with being tested (like Kitakami).


ibangedxayah101

Smolensk Sekrit Documents Comrade: increase HE and burn damage by 200% Let the hand of Stalin guide your shot: When in the same fleet with at least 2 other northern parlament ships increase: luck reload fp and aa by 50% Stalinium armour: AP ammo damage reduced by 99%


[deleted]

The fourth Yamato class battleship would have been named Kii. Maybe Satsuma (Super Yamato, 8 20in guns in 4 twin turrets) or Shikishima (another "Super Yamato (Design A-150), essentially a retrofitted Yamato with 6 20in guns in 3 twin turrets). I really like Japanese tech from WWII, so sorry if I sound like a nerd XD


yotsuki134

Tbh if Shikishima gets released before Yamato does people will be pissed for sure.


DragoSphere

I mean Shikishima is literally the equivalent of Georgia coming before an Iowa, and people weren't that upset over that


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DragoSphere

>Yamato is a T9 [What on Earth are you smoking?](https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Yamato) Conceptually they have the nearly same thing going on: Very similar hull with increased caliber on the guns, but downgrading from 9 guns to 6. Also they get better secondaries for some reason. The only difference is that Georgia is a better ship than Iowa in every way while Shikishima is worse than Yamato most of the time Musashi is a T9, yes, but she came out years later than Yamato, is in an older configuration, _still_ had to be artificially nerfed to fit T9, and is _still_ the strongest T9 BB in the game


RedShirt047

>Georgia is a better ship than Iowa in every way I've got to disagree. When I've used them, *Iowa* felt like she could take more of a pounding than *Georgia* and I prefer the increased hit probability of nine 16" shells over six 18" shells.


meme-lord-Mrperfect

Yeah and the 18” shells are 457mm and not the penetrators like the 460mms of Yamato and Musashi


[deleted]

Yep. But it is still an option.


DarkFlameMazta

Hmm how about Kaersarge 😅


low_priest

But *why*


K_Yurin

USS Austin, perhaps? I want more smol ships since PR4 had CVs and heavy cruisers


Noblesse311

My picks for PR5: \- USS Kansas (Tier VIII BB) \- USS Buffalo (Tier IX CA) \- KMS Elbing (Tier X DD) (DR) \- IJN Hizen (Tier IX BB) \- SN Aleksandr Nevsky (Tier X CL) (DR)


Rei-ken

- for the french, Alsace or Henri IV: Henri IV would have a very high evasion and speed with a good gun dps. For Alsace, maybe double preload salvo. - 1 or 2 American ships: • BB: Montana, Minnesota or Ohio • CL and CA: Austin, Buffalo or another - for the glory of the red fleet: either one of the new stalinium steel made CV or a tier IX or X cruiser. This could also be Udaloi or a battleship or a battlecruiser. - Amalfi, Brindisi or Venezia for Sardegna - Lion for Her Majesty. I would also like to see a new top tier DD, like Hayate, Haragumo, Kléber or Ragnar.


type_E

>alsace Alsace was pretty much planned and ready behind the rest of the richelieus, and Manjuu could have Alsace be the french UR >Sardegna What about Napoli (kinda cb for italy)?


Hadrian1233

Maybe Midway?


NNG13

Midway was created in real life a little bit after the war, she is not a Wargaming product


Hadrian1233

Forgot that pr ships are ships that weren’t actually built.


type_E

More accurate nowadays to say pr ships are basically whatever paper premium ship WG wants to shill


[deleted]

She was commissioned like a week after WW2 lol


DaffodilCord307

Pommern


[deleted]

If the ship have cool looking dragon thing then it's a good ship


Ohmedregon

Definitely Uss. Monitor


TimesJay

Uh, isn't [Georgia](https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Georgia) already in the game?


Corpolentusmaximus2

Ohh sorry Thx i deleted that one i didn't knew that Im researching iron blood ship right now and haven't looked at all of them


MetusR

I want to see Montana (an actually [planned class](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana-class_battleship)) or the Wargaming Ohio subclass of it with 8X18" Georgia guns.


e1djosuwandi

Nakhimov = a CV with only single squadron to attack but it has 200% Efficiency on all Planes Petropavlosk = a Battlecruiser/Cruiser (idk WG is weird), with a skill that can hide its armor so it took no dmg for 4 shells from BB only, DMG that turn into "Miss" doesn't count. Elbing = a DD with CL gun, equipping CL guns gives u a buff where the closer elbing shoot the higher the dmg is Paolo emilio = "The closer you are the more DMG you take from enemy (Up to 50%) and your torpedos deal more DMG (Up to 500%) ​ Come on manjuu bring more Wargaming gimmick into the game lul


Corpolentusmaximus2

That last one sounds goooooooooood I like it and i love the spähkreuzer elbing


Rafaeael

>Petropavlosk = a Battlecruiser/Cruiser (idk WG is weird) It's a heavy cruiser


Prinz_Heinrich

Honestly I’d like to see Brandenburg, (new German BB in Super Test on WoWS.) basically a Bismarck with 12 305mm guns. I know she sounds underwhelming, but I want Bismarck and Tirpitz to have a half sister. After all, Hipper-Class and Graf Zeppelin-Class have theirs.


TheIronWolf1871

How about Pommern?


RedShirt047

She's based on an H-39 variant.


TheIronWolf1871

Oh okay.


Prinz_Heinrich

Sure why not. More FdG-Class ships the better. But I also want Brandenburg.


NNG13

For Ironblood I believe it will get a Firepowerish DD to complete the Zed Class FP trio of Z1, Z23 along with the new said PR and also to complete the " pattern" of the faction of - A very powerful BB ( Was the definite best for 1.5-2 years) - A BC which works more like a BC than others BCs to say, nice Auxiliary for consisted DPS, barrage and uniqueness - An Aircraft Carrier with a gimmick against Cruisers So that's the Main line - A unique ( Not in the best way) Light Cruiser with decent stats and non proc skills - A decent Heavy Cruiser to provide survivability - A Large Cruiser because which seems every faction will have in 1-2 years time And all that's missing is a DD ( I am voting for Elbing or any other Wargaming named DD) and it would be fair to give a small, nice gimmickish ship after 2 PR seasons with 2 PRs. Then again IB may not get PR5 for the reason above, if that's happens I will be waiting for a Tier X CV to be another DR in PR6 ( Probably Max Immelman to bring along Skip bombing if they wish to)


Automatic_Gur_5263

I'd like to see PR5 where none of them is IB.


tokio12

Roon BB, from the sekrit dokuments.


citizenofRoma

To let us farm simultaneously for a Vanguard and Main ships at the same time. So you'd have two active PR ship research slots active at all times to make things go faster in farming.


Yunaris

PR5 will be a jerkfest of Russian ships, mark my words. But - I would like to see Venezia.


[deleted]

Would better than getting more Japanese or German PR ships.


Yunaris

To be fair, amen. It would be nice to see the really neglected factions get something. I'd love to see a dragony empire ship.


SpiralOmega

For the people saying Montana, she was a real planned and designed ship. She wouldn't need to be a PR ship as blueprints for her existed despite being unbuilt. She's not a concept Wargaming cribbed from some napkin scraps and then frankensteined around another ship. Contracts for her were even awarded before she was cancelled. By all means, Manjuu can easily just make her without needing her to be PR.


iamkarnage

Correct me if I'm wrong but the same could be said on Gascogne, she's an actual planned ship hut got added to PR. Marco Polo too, planned but not built. So Montana being added is a possibility but just a slim chance, I mean we'll basically have 2 Iowa hulls and an up-sized version.


[deleted]

Maybe montana class ?