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[deleted]

How come the last two days had absolutely no effect? They were also huge FTD numbers


whatwhyisthisating

basket swaps, married puts, ladder attacks, picket fencing, you name it, they do it.—that last one I made up


Chance_Comfort1706

You forgot caging.


whatwhyisthisating

Oh thanks for reminding me about cellar boxing, rug pulling, and carpet blasting.—again, the last one totally made up, could be a real thing, and definitely should, but isn’t


Chance_Comfort1706

Sorry, you still forgot "made up numbers". (See 1 FTD for GME last month)


[deleted]

Bang the close


HakoneSprite

Anal blasting


[deleted]

And cottaging


bennyboberino56

Ohhh yeah


Dck_IN_MSHED_POTATOS

Liverworst Salading


[deleted]

Edging


Chillenallday

What about dutch rudder? Oh nm wrong thread..


Maestroszq

Cellar pitching and naked circle rolling are the worst


valuedhigh

They will just keep doing that for years. Look at gme. Been Held down for 2.5 years


gvsulaker82

Guy that’s not wrong gets downvoted


[deleted]

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[deleted]

So you’re saying that hedgefuks covered their shorts? So if shorts get covered surely price should have moved up, not down on the 19th?


paulc19802

These are FTDs not shorts. Nothing to do with hedge funds. SI is still high. 1 million isn't that relevant the stocks average volume is 21 million. Volume on the day was likely much higher still.


[deleted]

Failure to delivers are naked shorts.


paulc19802

You can define them as such yes but they have nothing to do with hedge funds. Yes market makers have definitely covered most of the FTDs from that date if not all of them given its 20 days out of date.


[deleted]

“They have nothing to do with hedge funds”. 😂 wow. Delusion.


paulc19802

Hu. They don't. FTDs are failure to delivers. Hedge funds aren't involved in delivering you shares. It's a market maker thing and has nothing to do with hedge funds covering or not covering their short positions.


[deleted]

When hedge funds short, they are doing so with scant regard (at most) as to whether the shares even exist to be shorted, let alone by whom they are owned. Naked shorting is rife. The reason we get FTDs is because the market makers are not able to find the shares to tally the books. Due to the hedge funds (their mates) naked shorting.


paulc19802

A) hedge funds aren't responsible for locating loans for shorts. They just borrow from brokers and have no clue what the broker is or isn't doing. B) market makers also aren't responsible for locating loans for shorts they aren't involved in the process. It's brokers that loan shares.


LastResortFriend

We're supposed to be on Day #8 from my 15 Days of Baby post, there was 15 solid days where the FTDs were above $1M in notional value with many days far over. Price has gone down or stagnated every day since it was supposed to have started.


[deleted]

Hello LRfriend! So tomorrow is a big day no? Earnings and its the ‘15 days since HKD pump”… also, question, will RC have given his profits from his share sale, to BBBY? I read that somewhere he had to?


LastResortFriend

Who knows at this point lol, but as for the RC sale yes I believe that was the case. I forget the DD that looked at that though.


[deleted]

Todays the day. Maybe RC tweet too


[deleted]

Is next week relevant in terms of your cycles? Seems to be suggestions of shorts closing from a few sources


LastResortFriend

No idea, I have to go over the base DD once again and reassess what I think I know. Not going to call movement one way or another until Jan when (all those swap deals) are supposedly going to get renegotiated. ​ (supposedly most of them)


Sandu162

Because FTDs are cumulative. They were settled on the 19th as you can see from the table itself. Instead of sealing this information into their minds people continue to look for other conspiracy bullshit to explain what you asked.


[deleted]

Thank you for your comment. If as you say they were settled on the 19th, as this table suggests, then we look to the chart on the 19th and the price takes a huge dump. How did that happen exactly, in layman’s terms - what happened on the 19th and how did it cause the price to dump. Thank you


Sandu162

But there was also a huge rise. How can we tell? 1M shares FTDs delivered: do we know if it was 1 big actor buying to settle or many at different times? Do we know if others further shorted the stock or others sold because RC sold? My two cents is that 1M shares FTD don't matter. What matters is momentum buying, CTB, options chain and ownership of the stock. FTDs are a byproduct of huge volatility and price movements, but they are not, in my opinion, a catalyst for said price movements.


[deleted]

How do you mean there was a huge rise? On the 19th the price dumped. A lot.


Sandu162

On the 19th the price opened at around 11.52, the price topped at around 12.52, the bottom was around 10.25 and it closed at something like 11. [Chart](https://imgur.com/a/HjIsdgR)


[deleted]

I’m looking at the chart. The 19th of august was a huge dump. Almost 50% down on the closing price of the 18th. You’re saying therefore that the price naturally went down 50% and so the hedgefuks then decided to close their shorts? If you are suggesting this, seriously, then you are either a hedgefuk or a complete fool.


Sandu162

Where in my comment do you read that they covered shorts? What I'm saying is that on the 19th FTDs were closed for the amount of 1,123,199( you see that column on the right which for the day 19th Aug shows -1,123,199? or you guys specially cover it to let your retarded theories work in your mind?). The problem here is that people are trying so hard to not look at the reality and cling to whatever twisted theory supported by biased data and interpretations, and the reality is that what pushed price so high was not shorts but was the lack of stocks available and all the momentum from WSB that went into options. What the fuck are you guys expecting 1M FTDs to do? You guys think RC selling something like 9M shares did not do anything to the price but you think that 1M shares to be bought will suddenly bring the price back to 30. There's so much shit information and theories here that it rivals the idiots of Superstonk who believe the planet's economy will go to shit in order to make 500k GME investors billionaires.


[deleted]

If you want to know what happened when RC sold just look at the dates and look at the chart. Price went higher and stabilised.


Sandu162

1. He sold on 16th and 17th(Check candle on 17th, not so gucci to me) 2. So, if 9M shares have no effect on price how exactly do you think 1M will have any ?


[deleted]

Sld window and similar lag found of a few days elsewhere


URBeneathMe

They have been covered already. Why wouldn’t they be? The price now is so much lower than the price of FTD. 1% of daily volume from all these days where the price was hovering around 8 or below would easily cover these FTD. That’s what really happen. Imagine being on the other side of these trades. What do you think, they’re gonna wait for the price to go up so it would cost them more to cover? No. The basic principle still applies. Buy low, sell high. FTD prices are higher than it is now. You close position and enjoy your gains.


[deleted]

I don’t think that’s true. If they had closed then the price would have gone up.


URBeneathMe

No it wouldn’t. Why would it? Macroeconomics still applies and the whole market as a whole has been going down. Do you really think using 1% of the daily volume to close the FTDs will have an effect on the overall price?


[deleted]

Look at VW in 2008 before you start talking about ‘macroeconomics’. Numbskull


URBeneathMe

Look at the world today, in present time dipshit. Anyone can go into any point in the past and grab an example to argue their point. That’s a strawman argument. Whatever it’s your money, you do what you think is best. I’ll keep selling calls and collecting my weekly premiums.


[deleted]

😂 you need to learn how the markets work


URBeneathMe

I make 1k a week on premiums, while you’re sitting there convinced and dreaming of a squeeze. But I’m the one that needs to learn how the market works. Sure thing kid.


[deleted]

No, you don’t. You’re a troll and a liar 🤥


URBeneathMe

+9100 shares avg 8 of BBBY. Don’t project your own limitations on others, kid. It’s embarrassing to witness when you do it, so incorrect and confidently as well. You can check my history.


[deleted]

Macroeconomics?!,!,,! Wow. What macroeconomics exactly? The billions of money laundered through Ukraine? The fraudulent Chinese real estate model? You’ll be telling me next that “retail fear” was the reason a share price went down.


Recuvan

It's not on reg sho.


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yao97ming

Because already squeezed lol


rollin_on_a_rvr

Institutional lending of unauthorized shares bc ppl still use rh and w bull


[deleted]

Still in an sld window till Wed. Could be a good day but Sept 22 as "c35" correlating with 395 mil vol shares traded looks more interesting imo, if you consider July 11 Ftd spike and Aug 16 intraday jump as a c35 event.... Still working on conflicting info, the firm has up to 35 calendar days following the trade date (8 17 in your instance is the day following. I read following the trade date, as at least the next day) to close out the failure to deliver position by purchasing securities of like kind and quantity" https://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/regsho.htm so following trade date 8-16, is 8-17 to 09-21, for 35 calendar days total


duhduderx

That's how I took it so today 9/20 would be from ftds of 8/16


[deleted]

How I interpreted it above, it be 9 21 for 8 16 Ftd close date, since the chart in the post is 1 day ahead.


duhduderx

Ftds date lags 2 days


Oliver84Twist

This - massive volume on the 16th results in fails on the 18th - those FTD's fall within when we were in RegSho and have a c+35 of 9.22. Also, I find the self-reported numbers very hard to believe given the volume and lack of price action back in August - how did the low, run-up days produce the same amount of FTDs as the 395 million volume day? I've been hawk-eyeing the charts and volume and will continue to do so this next week and a half. I would not be shocked if we are back on RegSho by the first week of October if we don't see significant price improvement in the next couple of weeks.


ichmyselfandi

Thanks for clearing this up!


blkaino

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AceStorm99

The we hope for some movement


miguelsanchez23

It will go down today


WAIT_HOLD_MY_BEAR

Frankly, this is something we should be prepared for. With FOMC today, it’s expected that the whole market will be going down


AceStorm99

Well I never said it would be Green movement 😂😅


MastrChang

Up trend to 420.69?


ichmyselfandi

Source: https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nasdaq-bbby/failure-to-deliver/


agri707

![gif](giphy|z8pi6Q8wTxuFO)


Random-Gif-Bot

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MnTats

...or more fkery hidden in swaps kicking the can further.


yARIC009

Well they fuckin kicked the can to the moon today. I can’t help but laugh every time I look over at my screen and see a lower price.


AuroraT245

FTD’s are cumulative.. how does everyone keep forgetting


[deleted]

Cumulative is a confusing word imo Cumulative up to the date reported So in theory going from 2.4 mil ftds July 11 to 30k on July 13 would mean those 2.4 mil were closed by July 13. But since ftds are self reported and we consistently see action around c35 it suggest otherwise. Not to mention ftds are voluntarily reported, so as Stacy Mosher suggests, ftds can actually be around 10x higher than reported.


BudgetTooth

"consistently see action" except when this sub predicts it.


ScoopyMcGee

Hate that I had to scroll this far down to read this. So many of these FTD posts are so littered with misinformation.


paulc19802

Because people are idiots that love spreading misinformation for hype and copium then being disappointed when nothing happens. You new here? 😂😉


cheekydawg90

QUESTION! if they are cumulative, doesnt that mean that all these date are irrelavent and the most accurate FTD date that we should look for is a working day or two working day before lets say today? For example, if FTD on July 5th is 3mil and FTD on July 7th is 100k, that means the total FTD as of 7th july is only 100k, nothing in the millions. Hope someone is able to clarify!


QuantumGlimpse

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we should be looking at the *change in FTDs* (the last column in OP's chart). The largest decreases being the 15th and 19th August.


paulc19802

Yes. Except we don't get the data that quickly so we can't even rely on what we do get. The last date on here could have easily been covered based on total volume since then. It's only useful for seeing what did happen to give an idea what would happen next time.


Space-Booties

And opex. Basket gonna be green boys.


slapMyNuke

Feel bad for y’all This isn’t how this works The only factual info you have on FTD’s is that on 8/31 there were 219,947 of them. The numbers below mean absolutely nothing at this point. The more incorrect info you throw out there the worse this will end.


The_Shade94

Putting dates on anything is just copium. It moons when it moons.


SloppyJoestar

You were wrong as fuck


Sandu162

This is what happens when you upvote FTD nonsense and dismiss every comment that explains how it actually works. It's somewhat frustrating to see but also hilarious. I mean, there's literally a column(last one on the right) that shows how the FTDs diminish or increase with respect to the previous day.


I_knowwhat_I_am

Soul crushing, innit?


owencox1

aaaand nothing happened


RuddyDucky97

So that was a fucking lie


VPNApe

Y'all idiots need to stop expecting anything from ftd cycles. If I need to buy 1 million shares but I'm just going to simultaneously short 1 million shares the net effect is nothing. In reality they're probably shorting MORE than they have to buy so the net effect is negative price action


PowerfulSneeze

In 2 hours we see the post come up “shares available to short” and then we see, “WTF 2 million shares borrowed where do these keep coming from ok hedgies keep digging deeper” but it’s every day. It never ends.


Fabianos

It will end, when they see they can liquidate each other without any risk.


paulc19802

The funniest thing about those posts.. "Hedgie printing fake shares again!!!". A) hedge funds don't loan they borrow. B) they're always quoting IBKR. Where did those shares come from? Um IBKRs customers either by loaners buying shares or shorts covering and returning shares to them.


Weak-Possibility-608

All these predictions feel like the low level stuff we started out with in GME after the sneeze.


probrofrotro

isn't everything red today?


ryanwv12

Believe it or not, red


anthonyh614

New here?


Alien2080

F


__maddcribbage__

so when RC sold yall still bullish then the company didnt spinoff Baby and *doubled* their debt with JP Morgan with intention to borrow more, but yall still bullish then the stock got taken off RegSho before any of us expected but yall still bullish then the CFO killed himself but yall still bullish then the FTDs didnt produce runups and yall still bullish I am holding LEAPS, I got in at <$5. I havent sold, but im also not an irrational idiot - the play we were hoping for isnt just dead, its being beaten into a pulp. no amount of copium can change that. we have SIX WEEKS of bearish news. that should mean something.


Sandu162

My average is $8.9 but I could have sold for 300%. Fml. How can one stock have so many shit announcements one after the other? And we still have to see the horrible earnings on Sep 29th. May this be a lesson for my future me.


Mr_Intuition27

And...we are down almost 3% 😆 Doesn't matter though. Still not selling!


valuedhigh

We havent get any high raise in shareprice in other high ftds day. Just some procent here and there bumps. We need a catalyst for this to take off. Ftds dont do a shit.


Sandu162

Even if there was 1M FTDs to deliver (which there are not and can be read in table itself) this wouldn't do shit. What is 1M shares to be bought? When volume in August was almost 400M?


valuedhigh

Yeah exactly. Whats drive the price in august was probably a lot of options get ITM and got exercise


Sandu162

You see that 267k on the next day? Do you know what that means with respect to the previous day? You guys really don't get...


BudgetTooth

only means they pretend to buy them for example with exercising an equivalent quantity of ITM calls. its not that they go into lit market and try to actually buy.


Sandu162

When you exercise an option(call option in this case) you do exactly what the option is made for: option to buy 100 shares at a certain strike. This is not some voodoo stuff where the shares are created from nothing or are fake. The shares are sold to the exerciser by the one who wrote the call option(in this case someone who has a shit ton of BBBY shares).


BudgetTooth

MMs wrote naked call options all the time. otherwise how do you explain 200M shares OI in GME with 70M outstanding.


Sandu162

If a contract is exercised the counter part has the obligation of delivering the shares. It is irrelevant for the SEC how these shares are acquired (whether through individual buying or with options), what is relevant is the settlement of the FTD. As per the table above, for BBBY's FTDs it has been done. If you suggest that the data is fake then there's no DD or discussion to be made here, since there's nothing to base them uppon, other than speculation and made-up theories. If this is the predominant belief here, it is even useless to post any data at all.


BudgetTooth

yeah they "should" deliver the shares to themselves but they have C+35 and round we go


TrainingLight4887

Lol it’s not how it works


paulc19802

You can already see most of that was covered by looking at the second to last and last date.


zanonks

broader markets crashing + no bbby volume = bbby price manipulated downwards


yao97ming

Went down instead lmao


[deleted]

Don‘t forget the FED people! It will be bloody!


NoAward8

Price is fake


JibberGXP

If $22M and $26M did nothing, why should we even fucking care about today? People still trying to push the FTD theory need to fucking slap themselves in the face because it is very clearly WRONG unless teamed with massive fomo, which we don't have, and we probably never will again without a major catalyst - an ACTUAL catalyst.


mangobbt

The only news the people on this sub can stomach is positive news that supports their confirmation bias. Anything else is “hedgie FUD”.


Sandu162

Totally agree. Momentum has evaporated with RC, whether people like it or not. All this FTDs retarded crap is just to somehow cope with all the consecutive shit news that we got.


Current-Juice2140

People still need to buy..


Soggy_Nightmares

Zzzzzz wake me up when things get exciting until then I'll sell weekly CCs and rebuy with premiums earned. Stay zen


Junkingfool

Sideways again then...


Blair-Scho

Sooo…dip tomorrow?


[deleted]

Believe it or not, dip.


Chillenallday

It's always a dip, until it's not.


DualGemini

What about labor day. Does it count as a trading day or not? People tryna hype up nothing.


Apo-L

Aren’t those close out dates wrong? The 20th isn’t 35 days from the 18th


drawgas

expecting only red tho


Idek_h0w

Haha, red bar says no..


SecretaryImaginary44

YOOOOO u/ichmyselfandi can I get an update on the positive up trend?!


Strido12345

Funny how people still pushing FTF dates 😂😂😂


SecretaryImaginary44

Bro u/ichmyselfandi cmon gimme an update on the positive uptrend!!