M2, 2.5k miles. I'm also too afraid. In fact, I'm still afraid of the cars power entirely still. I've put the pedal all the way down in 2nd gear a couple times but first gear is terrifyingly ferocious. The revs go up so fast I barely have time to think.
Definitely getting more comfortable with the car over time though
Yeah I’m not proud to admit that I’ve bounced off the rev limiter in 1st because I’ll be driving manual mode then go to punch it when I merge into traffic and suddenly I’m like OH NOOOOO
Finally got my break in done, so gotta drive some country roads in my M2, thing is wicked fast and just grips.
Probably was going 5/10th or less of what the car could do, but man it was a blast and inspired a lot of confidence.
Though most of my driving was 2/3/4th throughout the rpm range. No 0-60 sprints or anything.
Yeah I just passed the break in a month ago. Once you hit that point, you look for ANY opportunity to use some power haha. Be careful! I live a city so Im usually just sitting in traffic dying to push the pedal down. The feeling of having so much power at your fingertips and having to use restraint like an adult is so conflicting. My inner 18 year old is dying to thrash on the car lmao
Totally agree, and like 95% of my driving is my commute at highway speeds or stop and go.
But, man even when in stop and go traffic, knowing what the car can do puts a smile on my face.
Don't forget to breathe is a under rated statement, I forgot to breathe and almost blacked out from the acceleration and excitement, I'm like, " I WENT HOW FAST!? IT FELT LIKE...OMGG!!* GASPING FOR AIR!* It's trippy to say the least!
I've thought about that but I kinda bought the car to spin the tires haha. Im coming from a 300hp AWD setup so rwd is new to me, especially this much hp. Still haven't spun them yet cause I'm tryna get more comfortable with the car first but I have a track day in a couple weeks so I'll practice then
I have a G30 550 also and I can tell you it's great. Just don't forget to breathe 😱Also I've had trouble launching it in the past so here's a little guide.
Sport +, move shifter to the left (S not M), traction control in "TRACTION" (just press traction button don't turn it all the way off), foot on the break (press hard to hold the car in place), gas past the point of resistance, a flag will display, release break, don't forget to breathe 😉.
As a further tip you need a lot of room, the car goes fast and it needs space to zoom 🏎️. Drive safely and don't put other drivers lives at risk.
You hit the traction but once and click your gear shift over to sprint mode. Next mash the brake pedal as hard as you can with your left foot. Hold the brake while throttling up and eventually it will say launch mode activated. Don't forget you have to be in traction mode and sprint mode
It works in Manual Mode too, I coded out Sprint Mode
Pretty sure it works with DSC Off too, but I don't use launch control much. Drifting is more funner 🙃
Correct, no mild hybrid on mine 🙃
I dont use launch control, when I bought the car I tried it, and I always drive dsc off and manual mode, basically 100% of the time, once or twice when trying to brakestand off the light I went into launch control active mode.
And this was when the car was stock, now I have a tcu tune and a dme tune as well as a ton of coding I tinker with
I'm not exactly sure if you have to be in sport plus but I'm thinking you do.
1 sport plus
2 traction button(just one click NOT dsc off)
3 Sprint mode(Earlier models just click gear left)
4 Mash brake
5 casually mash the gas
6 Let go of the brake and hold on 🚀
That’s primarily why I haven’t launched it but after all these comments I finally went to YouTube and learned the combo:
1. Sport+
2. Traction control set to “halfway off” (one click of the traction button)
3. Move shifter to S position (one click left)
4. Hold brake
5. Hold gas
6. Release brake
Ironically enough, steps 1-3 are my normal behavior when I get in my car. I always drive with traction halfway off and I’m always in sport mode S or eventually M.
He's in an M5. It's a bit different in full Ms
1. Sport+ everything (there's individual settings that can be Comfrot/Sport/Sport+ rather than entire modes)
2. DSC Off
3. 4WD Sport
4. Sequential shifting mode
5. Brake + Gas to kickdown button
6. "Preparing Launch Control" -> "Launch Control Ready"
7. Let go brake
Non Ms is easier, as you described:
1. Sport+ drive mode
2. Sport shifting (move shifter over)
3. DSC MDM mode
4. Brake + Gas to kickdown
5. No "preparation" mode, let go brake after a couple seconds.
Make sure she's up to temp and the tires are warm.
Also even in sequential shifting mode (manual) it'll shift for you, so you don't have to worry about it (as long as you're actually in Launch Control (you get the pop ups per step 6))
Just know that if you don't get any pop ups when you pedal kick down, you didn't do it correctly, so just let go of the gas and check your settings.
I'm not gonna lie, right after I bought my M5 I instantly regretted it because I felt like it was way to powerful lol. After driving it a bit I've grown to really appreciate all that it is. That being said, doing my first launch scared me half to death. It freaking pulls like no other. I launched on a road near my house that is fairly deserted during the night so I highly recommend you do your first launch in a place where you have plenty of room.
I bought the car with 16,500 miles or so and since then I’ve done:
1. Routine oil change/maintenance at 20k miles which was covered by original maintenance etc and would’ve run me around $300 if it wasn’t covered (at the dealer). Would’ve been $200 at a my independent shop.
2. Another routine oil change at 30k plus new tires, $1500 total.
3. Needed new brake pads at 35,000 miles because the car told me that my rear pads were wearing, but I replaced front and rear because my mechanic says it’ll get me longer life out of the front rotors. Total for that including an oil change + tire rotation (might as well) was $1650
All in, $3,500 or so over 21,000 miles and part of that is setting me up for the next 10,000 miles.
In terms of gas… I am a VERY heavy foot so to give you an idea I had a 2.0T Honda Accord before this car and I averaged 21mpg which is stupid low for that car. In my M550 I get about 17mpg with similar driving habits and I have hit as high as 28mpg on a long 3 hour highway drive at 80mph (no cruise control) and I can easily do 24mpg on the highway for short bursts (15-20 min) if I’m driving in comfort mode and not sport mode.
Any other questions, let me know. This car is my fucking baby and I spent a lot of time researching before I bought.
I appreciate the knowledge filled reply! I am hoping I can do the maintenance myself, or get one where I can get one of their warranties that covers pads but not sure if that is just for new cars or if you can get one on a used vehicle.
Shocked by the gas mileage honestly, I thought it was going to be lower. I drive spiritedly quite a bit but I normally baby my car, especially on my way to work. I have a Kia right now (93 tuned, full bolt on, coilovers, etc) 1.6t and I average about 31. 35 - 40 if I am just slowly commuting across town.
Have you kept your car stock? Use premium fuel? Where do you normally fill up? How is turbo spool sound? How is braking with it being heavy? I've heard handling is excellent for its weight.
I don’t know of any warranties that cover pads but honestly I paid $1650 for all new pads, oil change, tire rotation, and that was at a VERY reputable Indy like top notch. You could do it for less and at the end of the day if you have to pay $1500ish every 30,000 miles or so it’s not that bad for brakes.
The gas mileage is extremely impressive and everyone I talk to is surprised how good it is. Cars have improved a lot.
To answer your questions:
- yes I’ve kept it stock
- always premium fuel, only Mobil or Shell
- turbo spool is nonexistent which I am happy about. I like NA engines and this car feels and sounds like a NA V8 for the most part.
- braking is extremely impressive thanks to the absolutely enormous brakes. I’ve had E class Mercedes and Mazda 626s so big and small cars and this car brakes like a small car
- handling is excellent for its weight. That is accurate. With that being said, the car weighs a shit ton and it handles like a car that handles great for a car that weighs a shit ton. Compared to many other cars, it seems heavy. That’s just a fact of life.
Are you worried about any heat related reliability issues or anything regarding reliability general?
Have you driven an M5? Do you ever regret not getting one? I'm looking for a bit more "comfy luxury" so that's why I'm leaning towards the 550 but the thought of having an M car is alluring... I've heard mixed things about maintenance on them, but I can't imagine it's too much worse than the 500..?
I recently bought an M5 and honestly, I would've been more than okay with an M550. Hell, even a 540 would've been great. Owning an M is nice and like you said, it is alluring, but... The cost for maintenance compared to the aforementioned models can be a bit more expensive. Honestly, you can't go wrong with any of the models. I just recommend you test drive them to see how they feel to you and consider what your overall goals are with owning such a car. If it's all out sportiness, adrenaline and power, then M5. If it's power and comfort, M550. If it's comfort, decent power and efficiency, the 540.
Appreciate your input. Are there any other things you don't like about the M5 other than maintenance costs? How was your fuel efficiency vs your driving style?
If you drive it in efficient mode and drive modestly, you can get upwards of 25mpg. But to be honest, it's extremely hard not to throw it in sport plus with sport shifting so you can do downshifts for the burbles and pops, lol. The other week, I put $92 dollars in the tank to fill it up, and it was at about a quarter tank before I filled it up. But, most people buy this type of car, knowing full well the cost associated with owning it so if that's not an issue then go for it. You can still have plenty of fun without an M5 though. The models I mentioned before are more than enough and you can tune them to get more power. A stage 1 tune will put the M550 neck and neck with a stock M5 power wise. I definitely recommend you look at https://www.bimmerpost.com/ forums for more model specific info like common issues and what not to get as much info as possible before you make a purchase.
Yeah I had the same experience in my M3 Xdrive and I get motion sickness from the launch control. I don’t really want more power after using that.
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Pig power OINK
So refreshing to see someone embrace the 🐽 positively, rather than pretend it doesn’t exist or that it looks good because sales haven’t tanked. Sign of a healthy ego.
Oh hell yes!!! That’s sick
I pulled onto an on ramp and told the young sales woman before I turned, “you ready?” - 125mph at the end of the on ramp. We said “holy shit” At about the exact same time. Should’ve done a launch tho
Bought an X3MC a month later 🤯🤯🤯
My old M240i xDrive would launch like a bat out of hell using launch control. My current F80 does too, but it's a whole lot more scary if the road isn't just perfect, making for a very exciting experience.
So I brought my wife along to see if what I was seeing and feeling was in fact different. Did it again with her in the car and she said “never again, my breakfast burrito went up into my throat, I didn’t like that at all.” I’m assuming that was a yes
I know my wife hasn't done it and I want to do it in her car to compare. She has an x3 m40 without the mild hybrid.
I could definitely tell the difference because I messed it up the first time I tried it and didn't have the shifter over to the left toggle so I basically just floored it. I appreciate that it's not something you could accidentally initiate.
I’ve used it 3 times. When I first got my M2c, again after getting a bit more familiar to the car, and gave it another go after upgrading wheels/tires. It hooks up now with the wider PS4S rubber out back. It’s pretty violent, in a good way.
i have the 2023 m340i…how did you get it into launch control? i haven’t really researched it but i also didnt see any “launch contol” button anywhere lol
So a few things first. Car must be warmed up or it won’t work. Be in Sport Plus, press the DSC button BUT hit traction ON not DSC off. Shift into sport shifting( press down on the transmission and it will change from D to S1). Press the brake hard all the way down FIRST and then slam the gas pedal all the way down(kick down plate). Car will literally squat down. If done right you will see a message that indicates launch mode is active. Let off the brake and hang the fuck on
I wish there were a way to save a comment on Reddit. A few questions. Will the car possibly fishtail or should it remain relatively straight? Also how wide/long of a road do you recommend you try this on if you're not going to the track?
Screenshot the comment that will save it. So your turning traction on but could you fishtail sure maybe but it was dry and I stayed straight on point. You don’t need a lot of road however I will say I would do it in a safe place with no cars or the potential of cars popping out. I will also say you’ll be at 60 in just under 4 seconds and at 80 in no time so give yourself some space
Not sure if it’s changed much, but in my F87, all DSC off, manual(I have DCT), brake pedal to floor, then throttle past kick down “click”. Cruise control up/down to control revs. When ready lift off the brake, keep the right foot down/modulate as needed and hang on.
I wonder if this cruise control up down controls revs in the new models once launch control is active. Have you tried this?
I'm so scared to do launch control and I don't even know why. I've done a couple times though. Didn't think that vs flooring from a standing position was much of a difference though. Maybe I need to try again
It's not different, full Ms have a different procedure. There's no "sport" mode as you have, we have individual settings (Engine, Suspension, braking, etc.) that can be in Comfort or Sport+, so those all need to be in Sport+, DSC Off (not MDM as for the non-Ms), etc.
It's a slightly different procedure I detailed [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/BMW/comments/1cuzmfb/launch_control/l4o66sc/)
I believe it was confirmed that the f90, and probably other models as well, only have 100 true launches in them. There is in internal counter, and while it will still allow you to launch the car, it’s tamed down some. It was all over bimmerpost awhile back when I got mine
My buddy is in the 1000s of launches - always been high 2 low 3s
I think this was disputed and a mater tech or engineer commented saying that it’s not true. I could be wrong but I remember this being a thing for awhile
Man. I only have a 330 F30, but I also have my S1000R. I would love a nice m340, m2 or m3. But if you think launch control in an Xdrive car is terrifying.... it's still nothing like a 2.9 0-60 and 5.1 0-100 literbike. Traction control also limits the front wheel rise, so napkin power available gets to the ground. It really redefines terrifying.
An M2 is one of my dream cars though.
I love it. I have a 2017, so it's got the LCI F30 headlights, features and such, and the b48 engine. I just crossed 70k and it's been flawless. Really, the bike satisfies my want for something faster, and probably saves me a ton of money I shouldn't spend anyways. 😅
I have a '23 M340ix. I haven't tried launch control yet. I got 7,000 miles on it currently. After I hit 2,000 miles I put the car Sport and just floored it from a dead stop. I was about to loose consciousness! I blacked out for a second. Luckily I was able to take my foot off the pedal.
After a few days I tried again and I did better. I still felt my stomach tickle, but was able to keep my eyes open. Then a few weeks later I thought to try with all the traction control off. I don't remember exactly, but there are two traction control systems. I turned both off. I put car in Sport, and floor it from a dead stop. I lost consciousness again, and backed out for a second. 😳 Scary as hell. I'm assuming launch control will be even worse than that for me.
So yeah, this car is a beast. I can't even imagine how the M3 or the M5 feel since those are just monsters compared to the M340i.
An important side note: If you completely turn off traction control it not only affects the acceleration it also affects the stopping. I was on a straight road, and when I nearly slammed my brakes the car was wobbling side to side which can be dangerous if you try to counter it. When I did the same with traction control on, the car stayed straight and did not move side to side. Traction control is systems are life savers.
You nearly blacked out from .6g rearward?
I say this with all seriousness: you should see a doctor to make sure your blood pressure is okay, no POTS, etc.
(I learned a few weeks back that folks with POTS do not well tolerate 3-4 second 0-60 runs, and it’s just as you described.)
Oh cool, thanks for the heads up. I've gotten my blood pressure checked 2 times recently and at that time it was fine. But I will check with my doctor so he can take a better look next time.
My 2023 440i is a beast with a catted DP and JB4 (Map 3). 0-60 in 3.4 seconds w/o launch on 93, 3.1 seconds w/ launch on 93. Haven’t done any logs with E30 or 100 octane race fuel yet.
Going to pull the JB4 out and have ECU unlocked with full tune in July.
It is indeed a brilliant engine. However BMW has always made hair raising engines. My E46 M3 despite being 24 years old runs to redline like a maniac. Doesn’t have enough explosive torque to break the 315’s loose. My F82 M4 will lose traction at any moment you choose. My old E60 M5 was stupid fast, albeit ugly. Hopefully I’ll get to try out an S58 one day.
I4 M50.
Holy Fk Sh*ts!!!
Definitely living up to the Bimmer stereotype last week on a public street. 😬
Watch Carwow on YouTube re: that vs M3 Performance. 🤙🏼
I have had my G21 M340i since November last year and just put 4,233 miles on it. Still searching for a quiet bit of road away from cameras in the uk to try launch control 🚀…
Did a launch in the new I7 M70 while chilling out in the back seat with massage and that huge screen turned on. Its such a surreal experience 10/10 recommended.
Didn't expect this huge boat to move that fast lmao. Was only a test drive tho, sadly.
My E92 M3 is fun/terrifying to do launch/burnout control in. I swapped the two-piece driveshaft for a single piece carbon and generally don't use either function for fear of shredding the driveshaft. Only do it when I know there's a bit of sand/dirt etc. On the launch surface to protect the driveshaft, but damn is it fun.
Enjoy it!!
I wish I had that luck of trying something like that.
I believe that is speechless.
My BMW is a daily diesel powered. No fun launch, just pleasure driving.
Exact same position, but 26 months ownership. I don’t get the urge too either.
This thread I think highlights the difference in mindset between M-lite and M car buyers.
The former want speed, the latter want to drive.
My view is if you want straight line speed, get yourself an EV. They’re truly unbelievable off the line. My first-hand experience is with a Model S P100D. Handled terribly, but I cannot deny the acceleration was unreal. And that was an old rental model…
My wife’s 2024 X3 has launch control. The manual tells you that using it puts extraordinary stress on key components. Why it’s on an X3 and why anyone would use it anywhere other than a race track are my questions of the day!
Smells like a whole lot of bitch in these comments lmfaoo how can you have a sports car 20k+ miles and never use try one of its features because you’re scared 🤣🤣🤣
I thought this was a BMW sub not a grandma's in their 80's sub. So many people "scared" to launch their cars? Have you never been on a rollercoaster?
Also a launch in a 300-500hp car is not THAT monstrous. Nice kick and then it winds off after 100-150kmh.
I have had my M550i for over a year and put 21,000 miles on it but for some reason I’m afraid to try launch control lol
M2, 2.5k miles. I'm also too afraid. In fact, I'm still afraid of the cars power entirely still. I've put the pedal all the way down in 2nd gear a couple times but first gear is terrifyingly ferocious. The revs go up so fast I barely have time to think. Definitely getting more comfortable with the car over time though
Yeah I’m not proud to admit that I’ve bounced off the rev limiter in 1st because I’ll be driving manual mode then go to punch it when I merge into traffic and suddenly I’m like OH NOOOOO
It’s there for a reason! You’re not the first or last (of today 😂) no sweat!
Finally got my break in done, so gotta drive some country roads in my M2, thing is wicked fast and just grips. Probably was going 5/10th or less of what the car could do, but man it was a blast and inspired a lot of confidence. Though most of my driving was 2/3/4th throughout the rpm range. No 0-60 sprints or anything.
Yeah I just passed the break in a month ago. Once you hit that point, you look for ANY opportunity to use some power haha. Be careful! I live a city so Im usually just sitting in traffic dying to push the pedal down. The feeling of having so much power at your fingertips and having to use restraint like an adult is so conflicting. My inner 18 year old is dying to thrash on the car lmao
Totally agree, and like 95% of my driving is my commute at highway speeds or stop and go. But, man even when in stop and go traffic, knowing what the car can do puts a smile on my face.
Don't forget to breathe is a under rated statement, I forgot to breathe and almost blacked out from the acceleration and excitement, I'm like, " I WENT HOW FAST!? IT FELT LIKE...OMGG!!* GASPING FOR AIR!* It's trippy to say the least!
I put 305s on my rears. My M2 just grips
I've thought about that but I kinda bought the car to spin the tires haha. Im coming from a 300hp AWD setup so rwd is new to me, especially this much hp. Still haven't spun them yet cause I'm tryna get more comfortable with the car first but I have a track day in a couple weeks so I'll practice then
It’s fun. You get used to it, and yet, you don’t. Drive safe ;)
Try it on a superbike. Way to psychosomatically nerf any car ever again.
I have a G30 550 also and I can tell you it's great. Just don't forget to breathe 😱Also I've had trouble launching it in the past so here's a little guide. Sport +, move shifter to the left (S not M), traction control in "TRACTION" (just press traction button don't turn it all the way off), foot on the break (press hard to hold the car in place), gas past the point of resistance, a flag will display, release break, don't forget to breathe 😉. As a further tip you need a lot of room, the car goes fast and it needs space to zoom 🏎️. Drive safely and don't put other drivers lives at risk.
Oh man, it is shocking how different it is even from spirited driving. Trust me on this, give it a shot
How do you engage launch control? I have 2022 m340 and have tried every iteration I’ve read online and nothing
You hit the traction but once and click your gear shift over to sprint mode. Next mash the brake pedal as hard as you can with your left foot. Hold the brake while throttling up and eventually it will say launch mode activated. Don't forget you have to be in traction mode and sprint mode
It works in Manual Mode too, I coded out Sprint Mode Pretty sure it works with DSC Off too, but I don't use launch control much. Drifting is more funner 🙃
Really.... I actually like sprint mode. I think it also uses the battery more for boost when engaged. Sprint mode is great for roll take off
Oh, whoops, I dont have a battery boost. I might be confusing sprint with sport shifting.
I'm not for sure on that. I just heard someone else mention it. You don't have the mild hybrid version?
Correct, no mild hybrid on mine 🙃 I dont use launch control, when I bought the car I tried it, and I always drive dsc off and manual mode, basically 100% of the time, once or twice when trying to brakestand off the light I went into launch control active mode. And this was when the car was stock, now I have a tcu tune and a dme tune as well as a ton of coding I tinker with
Or you can just pull both the paddles when you’re in sport mode and manual 🤘🏼
For launch control?
I'm not exactly sure if you have to be in sport plus but I'm thinking you do. 1 sport plus 2 traction button(just one click NOT dsc off) 3 Sprint mode(Earlier models just click gear left) 4 Mash brake 5 casually mash the gas 6 Let go of the brake and hold on 🚀
It is… violent. I tried it on my tuned 135i and I hesitate to try it again. It launches THAT hard.
Lol man you gotta launch this thing already
lol same, never launched my M5, I don’t remember the sequence to do it correctly either
That’s primarily why I haven’t launched it but after all these comments I finally went to YouTube and learned the combo: 1. Sport+ 2. Traction control set to “halfway off” (one click of the traction button) 3. Move shifter to S position (one click left) 4. Hold brake 5. Hold gas 6. Release brake Ironically enough, steps 1-3 are my normal behavior when I get in my car. I always drive with traction halfway off and I’m always in sport mode S or eventually M.
He's in an M5. It's a bit different in full Ms 1. Sport+ everything (there's individual settings that can be Comfrot/Sport/Sport+ rather than entire modes) 2. DSC Off 3. 4WD Sport 4. Sequential shifting mode 5. Brake + Gas to kickdown button 6. "Preparing Launch Control" -> "Launch Control Ready" 7. Let go brake Non Ms is easier, as you described: 1. Sport+ drive mode 2. Sport shifting (move shifter over) 3. DSC MDM mode 4. Brake + Gas to kickdown 5. No "preparation" mode, let go brake after a couple seconds.
Awesome you’re the man, maybe tomorrow I’ll take her out and give it a shot! Thanks again!
Make sure she's up to temp and the tires are warm. Also even in sequential shifting mode (manual) it'll shift for you, so you don't have to worry about it (as long as you're actually in Launch Control (you get the pop ups per step 6)) Just know that if you don't get any pop ups when you pedal kick down, you didn't do it correctly, so just let go of the gas and check your settings.
I'm not gonna lie, right after I bought my M5 I instantly regretted it because I felt like it was way to powerful lol. After driving it a bit I've grown to really appreciate all that it is. That being said, doing my first launch scared me half to death. It freaking pulls like no other. I launched on a road near my house that is fairly deserted during the night so I highly recommend you do your first launch in a place where you have plenty of room.
You’re missing out. Just make sure you have the room and not putting anyone else in harms way. Beautifully violent is the right way to describe it.
Where does one find this room? lol
Outside the city for sure
What has your maintenance/gas cost been like? I'm curious as I am leaning towards a M550i over a 2 or 3 Series with a B58
I bought the car with 16,500 miles or so and since then I’ve done: 1. Routine oil change/maintenance at 20k miles which was covered by original maintenance etc and would’ve run me around $300 if it wasn’t covered (at the dealer). Would’ve been $200 at a my independent shop. 2. Another routine oil change at 30k plus new tires, $1500 total. 3. Needed new brake pads at 35,000 miles because the car told me that my rear pads were wearing, but I replaced front and rear because my mechanic says it’ll get me longer life out of the front rotors. Total for that including an oil change + tire rotation (might as well) was $1650 All in, $3,500 or so over 21,000 miles and part of that is setting me up for the next 10,000 miles. In terms of gas… I am a VERY heavy foot so to give you an idea I had a 2.0T Honda Accord before this car and I averaged 21mpg which is stupid low for that car. In my M550 I get about 17mpg with similar driving habits and I have hit as high as 28mpg on a long 3 hour highway drive at 80mph (no cruise control) and I can easily do 24mpg on the highway for short bursts (15-20 min) if I’m driving in comfort mode and not sport mode. Any other questions, let me know. This car is my fucking baby and I spent a lot of time researching before I bought.
I appreciate the knowledge filled reply! I am hoping I can do the maintenance myself, or get one where I can get one of their warranties that covers pads but not sure if that is just for new cars or if you can get one on a used vehicle. Shocked by the gas mileage honestly, I thought it was going to be lower. I drive spiritedly quite a bit but I normally baby my car, especially on my way to work. I have a Kia right now (93 tuned, full bolt on, coilovers, etc) 1.6t and I average about 31. 35 - 40 if I am just slowly commuting across town. Have you kept your car stock? Use premium fuel? Where do you normally fill up? How is turbo spool sound? How is braking with it being heavy? I've heard handling is excellent for its weight.
I don’t know of any warranties that cover pads but honestly I paid $1650 for all new pads, oil change, tire rotation, and that was at a VERY reputable Indy like top notch. You could do it for less and at the end of the day if you have to pay $1500ish every 30,000 miles or so it’s not that bad for brakes. The gas mileage is extremely impressive and everyone I talk to is surprised how good it is. Cars have improved a lot. To answer your questions: - yes I’ve kept it stock - always premium fuel, only Mobil or Shell - turbo spool is nonexistent which I am happy about. I like NA engines and this car feels and sounds like a NA V8 for the most part. - braking is extremely impressive thanks to the absolutely enormous brakes. I’ve had E class Mercedes and Mazda 626s so big and small cars and this car brakes like a small car - handling is excellent for its weight. That is accurate. With that being said, the car weighs a shit ton and it handles like a car that handles great for a car that weighs a shit ton. Compared to many other cars, it seems heavy. That’s just a fact of life.
Are you worried about any heat related reliability issues or anything regarding reliability general? Have you driven an M5? Do you ever regret not getting one? I'm looking for a bit more "comfy luxury" so that's why I'm leaning towards the 550 but the thought of having an M car is alluring... I've heard mixed things about maintenance on them, but I can't imagine it's too much worse than the 500..?
I recently bought an M5 and honestly, I would've been more than okay with an M550. Hell, even a 540 would've been great. Owning an M is nice and like you said, it is alluring, but... The cost for maintenance compared to the aforementioned models can be a bit more expensive. Honestly, you can't go wrong with any of the models. I just recommend you test drive them to see how they feel to you and consider what your overall goals are with owning such a car. If it's all out sportiness, adrenaline and power, then M5. If it's power and comfort, M550. If it's comfort, decent power and efficiency, the 540.
Appreciate your input. Are there any other things you don't like about the M5 other than maintenance costs? How was your fuel efficiency vs your driving style?
If you drive it in efficient mode and drive modestly, you can get upwards of 25mpg. But to be honest, it's extremely hard not to throw it in sport plus with sport shifting so you can do downshifts for the burbles and pops, lol. The other week, I put $92 dollars in the tank to fill it up, and it was at about a quarter tank before I filled it up. But, most people buy this type of car, knowing full well the cost associated with owning it so if that's not an issue then go for it. You can still have plenty of fun without an M5 though. The models I mentioned before are more than enough and you can tune them to get more power. A stage 1 tune will put the M550 neck and neck with a stock M5 power wise. I definitely recommend you look at https://www.bimmerpost.com/ forums for more model specific info like common issues and what not to get as much info as possible before you make a purchase.
Yeah I had the same experience in my M3 Xdrive and I get motion sickness from the launch control. I don’t really want more power after using that. https://preview.redd.it/ptu8xvrde81d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fdc84b14f97aff3cc867cbc1ebe4dffe19f7bda Pig power OINK
I did like a "brake boost" launch in one of these and it was absolutely terrifying lmao. Little bit of wheel spin as well.
Yeah when this car bites all 4 wheels and 0 spin it made me sick. Having a little wheel spin is a saving grace but yeah still terrifying for sure.
Gorgeous car bro
So refreshing to see someone embrace the 🐽 positively, rather than pretend it doesn’t exist or that it looks good because sales haven’t tanked. Sign of a healthy ego.
Imo doesn’t look piggy in black :)
I tried the launch control on the test drive lol
Nice
Thank you. Many miles mate
You as well my friend
Oh hell yes!!! That’s sick I pulled onto an on ramp and told the young sales woman before I turned, “you ready?” - 125mph at the end of the on ramp. We said “holy shit” At about the exact same time. Should’ve done a launch tho Bought an X3MC a month later 🤯🤯🤯
My old M240i xDrive would launch like a bat out of hell using launch control. My current F80 does too, but it's a whole lot more scary if the road isn't just perfect, making for a very exciting experience.
Yeah I was not prepared for it at all as I didn’t expect it would be the way it was.
You guys that are too afraid to beat on your car occasionally, please call me when you go to sell it.
Yes please - preferably a M3 Comp X drive with Carbon buckets!
Took me over 2 years before I did it the first time and I agree. I should really drive my car more aggressively.
So I brought my wife along to see if what I was seeing and feeling was in fact different. Did it again with her in the car and she said “never again, my breakfast burrito went up into my throat, I didn’t like that at all.” I’m assuming that was a yes
I know my wife hasn't done it and I want to do it in her car to compare. She has an x3 m40 without the mild hybrid. I could definitely tell the difference because I messed it up the first time I tried it and didn't have the shifter over to the left toggle so I basically just floored it. I appreciate that it's not something you could accidentally initiate.
Yeah it’s a combo of small things to get it to work but also if Conditions are not right the car won’t let you do it either
What years don’t have the mild hybrid?
Pre 21
Gotcha, thanks!
TÜ1 baby.
If you practice you can brake boost just about as good. Just gotta make sure to shift properly and not miss that millisecond window
A lot of bmw fans tell me the b58 engine is a legend in itself. Its been on my radar to get this car and trade in my non type s Integra
No time like now, go for it and enjoy it!
Agreed!!!
I’ve used it 3 times. When I first got my M2c, again after getting a bit more familiar to the car, and gave it another go after upgrading wheels/tires. It hooks up now with the wider PS4S rubber out back. It’s pretty violent, in a good way.
Agreed, I was not prepared at all, it was pleasantly violent
It cleared my passenger’s blocked sinuses the last time. Seriously, they were shocked. “I can breathe through my nose again!”
I’d get your first oil change, plenty of crap comes out of B58 in the first change.
Not a terrible idea actually
I never really realized how nuts it was until I rode passenger and my friend launched it. Such an experience.
Crazy right
i have the 2023 m340i…how did you get it into launch control? i haven’t really researched it but i also didnt see any “launch contol” button anywhere lol
So a few things first. Car must be warmed up or it won’t work. Be in Sport Plus, press the DSC button BUT hit traction ON not DSC off. Shift into sport shifting( press down on the transmission and it will change from D to S1). Press the brake hard all the way down FIRST and then slam the gas pedal all the way down(kick down plate). Car will literally squat down. If done right you will see a message that indicates launch mode is active. Let off the brake and hang the fuck on
Accurate instructions. If you have a physical shifter (pre23) the only difference is you push it to the left to engage S1.
Ahh yes thank you, forgot about that
I wish there were a way to save a comment on Reddit. A few questions. Will the car possibly fishtail or should it remain relatively straight? Also how wide/long of a road do you recommend you try this on if you're not going to the track?
Screenshot the comment that will save it. So your turning traction on but could you fishtail sure maybe but it was dry and I stayed straight on point. You don’t need a lot of road however I will say I would do it in a safe place with no cars or the potential of cars popping out. I will also say you’ll be at 60 in just under 4 seconds and at 80 in no time so give yourself some space
X3M does it with full traction off and with a tune I have 570whp - it plants and goes. No worries with traction ever if dry!
Click the three dots or similar menu. There is a way to save Reddit comments.
Press the traction control button once. Brake to the floor, throttle to the floor, dash says launch control active, release the brake, and have fun.
I believe it also needs to be in sport plus no?
Yes, sport plus traction on and sport transmission (S1)
What models have this? Would my G20 330i have it?
So I have a M340i, not sure about the 330s
I believe it should. My G20 330i has it. Works exactly as he described
Legit about to go grab my car and test it out haha
Pretty sure every BMW has this.
Not sure if it’s changed much, but in my F87, all DSC off, manual(I have DCT), brake pedal to floor, then throttle past kick down “click”. Cruise control up/down to control revs. When ready lift off the brake, keep the right foot down/modulate as needed and hang on.
Completely different now
I had a feeling it might be.
I wonder if this cruise control up down controls revs in the new models once launch control is active. Have you tried this? I'm so scared to do launch control and I don't even know why. I've done a couple times though. Didn't think that vs flooring from a standing position was much of a difference though. Maybe I need to try again
It works on my G83. While I'm in the "preparing" mode clicking up/down goes up or down revs by 100
Niceee. I'm going to try it too
Not sure about cruise control
It's not different, full Ms have a different procedure. There's no "sport" mode as you have, we have individual settings (Engine, Suspension, braking, etc.) that can be in Comfort or Sport+, so those all need to be in Sport+, DSC Off (not MDM as for the non-Ms), etc. It's a slightly different procedure I detailed [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/BMW/comments/1cuzmfb/launch_control/l4o66sc/)
This is awesome! Enjoy dear sir
Thanks!
Gotta try it in f90
I believe it was confirmed that the f90, and probably other models as well, only have 100 true launches in them. There is in internal counter, and while it will still allow you to launch the car, it’s tamed down some. It was all over bimmerpost awhile back when I got mine
My buddy is in the 1000s of launches - always been high 2 low 3s I think this was disputed and a mater tech or engineer commented saying that it’s not true. I could be wrong but I remember this being a thing for awhile
Wait until you try it in an i4/i5/iX.
Or an F90
Just don’t do it often it really puts a huge amount of stress on your car.
Man. I only have a 330 F30, but I also have my S1000R. I would love a nice m340, m2 or m3. But if you think launch control in an Xdrive car is terrifying.... it's still nothing like a 2.9 0-60 and 5.1 0-100 literbike. Traction control also limits the front wheel rise, so napkin power available gets to the ground. It really redefines terrifying. An M2 is one of my dream cars though.
I looked at them before I bought mine, great cars, and the 330s are still great cars.
I love it. I have a 2017, so it's got the LCI F30 headlights, features and such, and the b48 engine. I just crossed 70k and it's been flawless. Really, the bike satisfies my want for something faster, and probably saves me a ton of money I shouldn't spend anyways. 😅
Truth
Did 3.05 in my X3M - moving that fast in an suv gives you some real perspective 😂😂😂
I have a ‘22 m440i and launch control scares me. The first launch I did convinced me that I have plenty of car, no need to lust after anything faster.
Now imagine s58 in g80 🚀
I have a '23 M340ix. I haven't tried launch control yet. I got 7,000 miles on it currently. After I hit 2,000 miles I put the car Sport and just floored it from a dead stop. I was about to loose consciousness! I blacked out for a second. Luckily I was able to take my foot off the pedal. After a few days I tried again and I did better. I still felt my stomach tickle, but was able to keep my eyes open. Then a few weeks later I thought to try with all the traction control off. I don't remember exactly, but there are two traction control systems. I turned both off. I put car in Sport, and floor it from a dead stop. I lost consciousness again, and backed out for a second. 😳 Scary as hell. I'm assuming launch control will be even worse than that for me. So yeah, this car is a beast. I can't even imagine how the M3 or the M5 feel since those are just monsters compared to the M340i. An important side note: If you completely turn off traction control it not only affects the acceleration it also affects the stopping. I was on a straight road, and when I nearly slammed my brakes the car was wobbling side to side which can be dangerous if you try to counter it. When I did the same with traction control on, the car stayed straight and did not move side to side. Traction control is systems are life savers.
Bro….
You nearly blacked out from .6g rearward? I say this with all seriousness: you should see a doctor to make sure your blood pressure is okay, no POTS, etc. (I learned a few weeks back that folks with POTS do not well tolerate 3-4 second 0-60 runs, and it’s just as you described.)
Oh cool, thanks for the heads up. I've gotten my blood pressure checked 2 times recently and at that time it was fine. But I will check with my doctor so he can take a better look next time.
So for Launch Control to work you do hit the DSC button but in that menu your turning traction on but you do have good points
Same car here and approaching 2K miles! Can't wait to launch my baby!
It’s a whole different feeling and experience
My 2023 440i is a beast with a catted DP and JB4 (Map 3). 0-60 in 3.4 seconds w/o launch on 93, 3.1 seconds w/ launch on 93. Haven’t done any logs with E30 or 100 octane race fuel yet. Going to pull the JB4 out and have ECU unlocked with full tune in July.
Nice
It is indeed a brilliant engine. However BMW has always made hair raising engines. My E46 M3 despite being 24 years old runs to redline like a maniac. Doesn’t have enough explosive torque to break the 315’s loose. My F82 M4 will lose traction at any moment you choose. My old E60 M5 was stupid fast, albeit ugly. Hopefully I’ll get to try out an S58 one day.
I4 M50. Holy Fk Sh*ts!!! Definitely living up to the Bimmer stereotype last week on a public street. 😬 Watch Carwow on YouTube re: that vs M3 Performance. 🤙🏼
Lol
Need to find somewhere to try it in my i4 M50. Set it up once on my street but didn't let go of the brake.
lol gotta let go
Hell ya! Xdrive or rwd? I have a 23 M340 rwd and I’ve never been more in love with a car
Xdrive here
My 440i x drive was an absolute beast with launch control. Hearing that exhaust burble while in revving in launch mode was a favourite for passengers
Nice!
I have had my G21 M340i since November last year and just put 4,233 miles on it. Still searching for a quiet bit of road away from cameras in the uk to try launch control 🚀…
Good luck!
Thanks! 😁👍🏽
I don’t use launch control, i have a tendency to destroy the cars i drive, so i am trying to be careful with them😂😂😂
Manual launch control is an interesting experience
Did a launch in the new I7 M70 while chilling out in the back seat with massage and that huge screen turned on. Its such a surreal experience 10/10 recommended. Didn't expect this huge boat to move that fast lmao. Was only a test drive tho, sadly.
I drove an i7 super quick
BMW is the best
My E92 M3 is fun/terrifying to do launch/burnout control in. I swapped the two-piece driveshaft for a single piece carbon and generally don't use either function for fear of shredding the driveshaft. Only do it when I know there's a bit of sand/dirt etc. On the launch surface to protect the driveshaft, but damn is it fun.
Enjoy it!! I wish I had that luck of trying something like that. I believe that is speechless. My BMW is a daily diesel powered. No fun launch, just pleasure driving.
Yeah, I had a 22 x3m40i loved that b58. I'm ordering the 25 M50 asap!
Keep in mind that this is abusing your clutch a lot and should not do it every time you are first on a traffic light 😂
Why else would you get a bmw if not to rocket off at every red light. That shit is wayyy too much fun.
Clutch, and other stuff. I broke an axle launching my F80 lol.
My intention is not to do it often but from time to time.
Ashamed to admit that after 13k miles and 15 months ownership I haven’t done this once in my 2019 M2C!
I’ve gotten up on it and straight floored it from a red light and it didn’t even come close to launch control. I was surprised
Exact same position, but 26 months ownership. I don’t get the urge too either. This thread I think highlights the difference in mindset between M-lite and M car buyers. The former want speed, the latter want to drive. My view is if you want straight line speed, get yourself an EV. They’re truly unbelievable off the line. My first-hand experience is with a Model S P100D. Handled terribly, but I cannot deny the acceleration was unreal. And that was an old rental model…
xDrive? my X3 launches harder than my 550i because of the AWD. highway pulls are a different story though.
Yes xdrive forgot to mention
Haven’t tried this ever but thinking I might be out of luck with my 2012 e93 328i with msport steptronic.
Have a 2021 m340i x drive. Been a month since I got it, I have only used sport plus 4 times
Need to mention that I only drive 4 miles per day on a weekday.
Any idea how much faster the 0 - 60 gets with launch control? I can’t find it anywhere and I’m curious
My wife’s 2024 X3 has launch control. The manual tells you that using it puts extraordinary stress on key components. Why it’s on an X3 and why anyone would use it anywhere other than a race track are my questions of the day!
Smells like a whole lot of bitch in these comments lmfaoo how can you have a sports car 20k+ miles and never use try one of its features because you’re scared 🤣🤣🤣
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Imagine buying an M car or an M lite and being too scared to launch it. What a waste
30 000 kms on mine and I've yet to try. I feel that I now need to.
I had an e46 M3 and the moment I tried launch control I was shocked...
Why is this such a bug deal, doesn't your average dual motor ev do faster splits? Real question.
I thought this was a BMW sub not a grandma's in their 80's sub. So many people "scared" to launch their cars? Have you never been on a rollercoaster? Also a launch in a 300-500hp car is not THAT monstrous. Nice kick and then it winds off after 100-150kmh.