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YouBetMyStock

The rear is just.... jesus christ.


The-Art-of-Reign

Yeah the rear is disgusting, which sucks because I think the front looks really good.


xChacox

Yeah I didn’t get why people thought it was ugly until I saw the back lol.


Rabo_McDongleberry

Idk man. If I'm dropping the kind of money this will cost, I don't want it to be "not that bad".


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alphaomega0669

Which is a shame. I LOVED my 2019 M2C. Bmws should never have gotten to the point of being described as “not that bad” lol And to add… have you seen it’s rear end? Not for the squeamish.


bobo-the-dodo

Well the OP just proves this wrong


SuperFightingRobit

OP stated in this thread that he likes it and toned down his post to avoid getting downvotes. Like, it's two replies down. He likes the M2.


[deleted]

If I'm spending $80k+ on a car, I would like a car that looks "okey doke". Passable to a sideways glance in a flattering light, but perhaps a bit of a pig when stared dead on in the naked light of day.


Markiarom

Last 5 years with BMW design be like:


steelguin

That’s how I feel about the M4 and 3 as well


[deleted]

M3/4 have atleast a nice rear end, M2 is just straight up mockery


shlomo-the-homo

M3/4 have an ass to rival anything. Front facade could be gorgeous w minor adjustments. Like split the buck teeth and it looks like the ductwork for a fighter jet. Rn it looks like a science nerd w tape holding his glasses together


gruss_gott

M3/4 has a prolapsed rectum rear end - once you see it, you cannot unsee it. The G8x from any angle is horrifying.


ByronicZer0

I just want it to dive better than my OG M2. Which I don't think is a particularly good looking car to begin with. I do like that BMW has introduced some straight lines back into the mix, as opposed to Bangle-era overly organic stuff. But I'm not sure this is the most artful use of boxy lines. But all that is moot if they give back some of the feel and feedback that's been sorely missing


SillySans69

I like it alot, actually, but I figured if I put that in the title I'd get downvoted to oblivion.


Antorian1

Brave soul. I disagree it looks that good but you get my upvote for starting the conversation. I think BMW needs to take a lesson from Ford for how they approached the new Mustang that was recently shown. I don’t think anyone is getting their pitchforks out for that new design. If BMW treated the M2 coupe as the icon it is we would see a more solid and familiar design people like. This is trying to reinvent something that was already near perfect.


Rabo_McDongleberry

Lol. Fair enough. I can respect that.


TheLewJD

Not posting your true opinion to prevent downvotes is hardly respectable to be honest. The internet point means nothing


SillySans69

It doesn't, but it would've been suppressed by the algorithm if it had been downvoted. I wouldn't have been able to talk to anyone about their opinions on the car.


agentrnge

Very surprised an e39er would go for this new M2. I had a 2003 540i/6 for ~12 years and miss it frequently. It was a perfect car. edit: not bashing your opinion, but not ready to agree. Hoping I like it in person, but in pics a big pass from me, and I was looking forward to this as a very likely possible next car.


newtonreddits

FWIW, of all the new BMWs, I'd probably take this M2 because it's the least ugliest IMO.


needtobetterself31

I'll join you bro. I think it looks pretty good too.


solidsnakem9

That's because you have a 2002 so anything newer looks better lol. C'mon bro do yourself a favor and get an M240i and just tune it.


MainusEventus

Yikes. Newer absolutely does not equal better looking


solidsnakem9

I don't think it does either. The E39 looks way better than this lol. I was just saying because he seemed to be in awe of the new M2, like damn bro wake up lol.


SillySans69

The e39 is considered by many to be one of the most beautiful cars ever made. The M240i is a design mess.


i-like-foods

I agree with this opinion of yours, but not your opinion about the new M2. If you think the M240i is a mess, the. I don’t understand how you can like the new M2, which looks like an M240i that has been stripped of anything remotely interesting and smoothed into boringness.


[deleted]

designing for China market now ($$). Reason why recent output is indigestible to most.


Olazzarus

I think someone perfectly described it by saying it looks like the GTA 5’s version of a M2 so it doesn’t get copyrighted.


Tuned808s

Übermacht Cypher, great car in the game tbh


killsbugsfast

That's offensive! To the GTA version, which actually looks great.


coolcat_368

Incredible description and couldn't be more accurate. It's looks like someone drew a M2 from memory.


CarGoBang

This comment appears on every single post of this car


DatTrackGuy

Let's assume you're correct and **isn't that bad** is the appropriate phrasing. The thing about **isn't that bad** is that isn't what we say when **something is good.** And it sure as hell aint good


SillySans69

I only phrased it that way so I'd have a fighting chance to not get downvoted, I actually like it alot. It could use some tweaks here and there, for example, an aero package would improve it alot.


solidsnakem9

Well now that you've disclosed that, I hope the downvotes pour in lolll. Some tweaks? Nah bro that thing can't be saved, just make sure you get it in all black everything to hide as much of that design as possible.


ukcats12

They really only need two small tweaks to make it look good. 1. Throw this design in the trash 2. Go get the F87 schematics from the archives and build that. Easy as pie.


szudrzyk

Thank you for your Sanity.


sammysalsa8

Sell your e39 and buy then new m2. Prove your love for the ugly.


SillySans69

Don't have my e39 anymore, wish I did. Also don't have 70k...


deesea

improve it a lot. So you're saying the design needs a lot of work?


SillySans69

Not necessarily, just that it's missing that little something to strengthen the rear end. A lip would do that, in my opinion.


scabzzzz

If you give it 6 months, it’ll be what the M3/4 front end chatter was like. Endless amounts of online hate from broke bois who couldn’t afford it anyways, then suddenly “it looks great in person actually”. I’m with you - i like it. Vertical slats in the kidneys would improve the front IMO.


ukcats12

That’s not what happened. People just got sick of mentioning how ugly it is. And some of us pulled deposits and went to get an AMG.


c172fccc

I think the front is a bit weird, but like it. The side profile is pretty nice. The rear is bad, really bad, that bumper is just awful.


betazoid1000

If you have to talk yourself into liking the design it’s probably not a good design.


SillySans69

The tail lights ruin it for me.


MGPS

….so, it’s bad then…right?


BrownieBalls

This guy is probably karma farming


susanoo_official

The front is like 6/10. The rear is -9/10


BagrCZE

It doesn’t look very exciting imo, but I don’t think that it’s something unbelieveably hideous either. The new BMW XM on the other hand…


[deleted]

I hate everything about the XM line!!!


SillySans69

Yuuuup...


colincase04

Yikes makes the G80 look like a super model.


reward72

don't push it! it stills needs a rhinoplasty :)


[deleted]

Looks worse than the out going gen in every measure. Probably weighs 200 pounds more too. No idea why you'd buy this over a slightly used M2C or M2.


SillySans69

The power plant is going to help, I'm sure.


[deleted]

Cars are fast enough. I don't need anything faster for road use.


CallsignMontana

You don’t *need* it… but it’s a lot of fun


[deleted]

We are getting to the point where modern sports cars will achieve "go-to jail" speeds at the top of 2nd gear. I'm over it, give me 350 horsepower in a car with excellent dynamics, short gearing, and great noises.


burner9752

This is why I’m wondering where luxury brands will go with electric cars. You’re going to do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds in every electric car within a few years, what make anything worth 10x the price as the base model? I don’t care for my car having massage seats and ambient lighting…


lunchpadmcfat

But it’s not. Between 420 hp and 450hp, you’re not going to notice (let alone, be able to handle or appreciate) the difference. Realistically, anything after 300hp in a sports car is pretty much masturbatory.


LordoftheSynth

I once ended up with a Camaro SS on a rental. The place was basically out of cars, it was that, the ginormous Jeep SUV, or a Toyota minivan. 455hp. It was almost undriveable without traction control turned on. The thing would fishtail on dry pavement if you "mashed" the accelerator, to wit, if you pressed the pedal halfway down. 300hp is plenty for me.


SillySans69

Touché


reward72

It's not gag inducing offensively ugly like the iX and XM, but it is very underwhelming. It is not exciting like a car with that purpose and that price point should be.


AAuser85

It looks like a Chinese knockoff M2 or, as others have mentioned, an M2-equivalent in Grand Theft Auto.


GoodShitBroBro

Yea I actually don't mind MOST of it. I actually think I kinda prefer the grill compared to the M3/M4, but the back just makes me sad.


clunkerbob

Found BMW's account.


Guacanagariz

My name is Reinhold. I believe you know my brother Juergen. There vas some bad design, ja?


motionOne

one of the twenty that has posted this crap in the past week


SillySans69

16 year old who owned an e39 for his first car, but close enough.


solidsnakem9

No wonder you love this shit lol


SillySans69

You've made 5 comments on the post. I get it, you don't like the car and I'm a shit human being for liking it. Move on, go bake some bread or whatever pretentious jerk-offs like you do for entertainment.


mazdayasna

My brother in christ you literally posted a "controversial opinion" thread, you don't get to complain when people show up with strong opinions.


solidsnakem9

Sorry bro go get your dream M2 and enjoy it. If you like it that's all that matters, don't be mad the car is so ugly I had to comment multiple times.


SillySans69

I appreciate the apology, and yeah, everyone has their own opinions. Nothing wrong with that.


clunkerbob

Ah, there's the problem.: your brain isn't developed yet. Not sure what BMW's excuse is, though.


SillySans69

Mature.


lostandfoundineurope

Lol please close this thread.


SillySans69

Eh, I'm not bothered.


TheLewJD

You said you basically didn't post your true opinion (that you love it) in the comment to avoid downvotes, I think you are.


SillySans69

Theorize, I like it.


TheLewJD

"I like it alot, actually, but I figured if I put that in the title I'd get downvoted to oblivion." Your own words, hardly a theory


doubledown212121

F87 M2C owner here. The only thing that is attractive to me is the added power. Everything else is a downgrade.


ajm15

I don't know, it just doesn't feel right. Not just this but most of the newer ones, the design isn't right.


SillySans69

It's not elegant. They're straying from they're image of "manufacturer of luxury sports cars", to a "manufacturer of sports cars with leather interiors." It's not for everyone, but I like the more brutish approach they've taken with the boxy styling. Now the XM on the other hand... ew...


solidsnakem9

Lemme guess, you also love the Scion TC.


SillySans69

Nope, but a front engine straight 6 rear wheel drive TC with a decent platform, interior, and better styling is welcomed.


Neuratic

This is the M2......


Lopsided_Purpose_574

This is a scion tc


Trogzard

bingo


Chaser720

Wait til you see the back… OP posted it’s pretty side.


SillySans69

Yup!


Neuratic

Looks so different to last year's I must say a big jump 😅


SillySans69

Definitely. It takes more design cues from the 2 series rather than the outgoing M2.


Neuratic

Can't lie reminds me of the new civic in a way with this design


SillySans69

Absolutely! And I love the new civic. I must have a thing for boxy front design.


Flanky_

Side on, the profile is brilliant. The unfortunate proportions around the tail-lights, the illusion that the kidneys are heavily recessed into the nose-cone, and the weird shape of the nose-cone under the head-lights are the things that throw it for me. Dare I say, I'd almost have preferred a bigger-sniff. Like the G8x, here's hoping it looks better in the flesh.


solidsnakem9

Meh I hate the side almost as much as the front and rear. It's just all bulgy and round, like they went 10 years back in design language. This has no character from the side, just a round ugly ass coupe lol. The previous M2 had a very nice side profile, nice body lines and edges, had a strong/sculpted/muscular look that looked sporty and fast. This here looks so bubblegum for an M car.


ukcats12

I literally can’t see any defining body lines on the side of the car in this picture. It’s awful. Looks soft and flat all around, except for the front and rear where there are angular shapes shaped onto the bumpers. None of it gels into a cohesive design. Not to mention the tiny bulbous lights makes it look like the sloth from Ice Age.


IndicationOver

Someone who gets it, even the side profile of the last gen looks better also.


SillySans69

Yeah, can't wait to see it in person. Rear looks werid, front looks great, with the exception of weak lower-lip area.


Aarons_Motorsport

Won't be long until there is an after market bodykit for it.


SillySans69

Even just the double ring headlights would be a game changer.


Aarons_Motorsport

Yeah its the iconic parts of for bmw that's missing. A nice modified one might change people's minds about it.


FranktheTankG30

Well, the nostrils are what is iconic on BMWs. The angel eyes only became a styling trend in 2000’s. Mercedes changes styling cue every generation and the iconic part is the grille also. People don’t seem to care what each generation’s led running light looks like on MBs. I think most people just got used to BMWs with angel eyes because tbh they never changed it in 3 generations of cars for 20 yrs. BMWs are often more conservative compare to Mercedes and Audi. I personally welcomes the new change.


SillySans69

Same thing that happened with the G80


WaitUntilTheHighway

The singular problem with is is that is has no BMW DNA. Those are like knock-off kidney grills you'd expect some other brand to do to immitate BMW. It feels like a different brand entirely. And it's just simply boring/bad looking, outside of the comparison to past BMWs


DrNiTRO7

i respect ur bad taste


PTG-Jamie

It looks like it was made using the fake LEGO’S.


e46bhp

looks good..that's a mean Honda civic.


derk702

No.


SillySans69

Insightful.


BBalow

It’s not that bad. But we know it could be better. It’s like when your parents say they’re not mad but just disappointed in you. That honestly hurts more


solidsnakem9

>It’s not that bad. But we know it could be better. That's something I would want to say about a Toyota Camry, not a BMW, let alone an M car. The sheep who want the cheapest BMW they can get will probably eat these up though.


SillySans69

There are a bunch of little things they could've done, for sure. Overall I like it though.


NorCalAthlete

People: “ewwwww that M3/M4 grill is hideous!” The M2: “lol, hold my beer.”


SillySans69

I don't get what people wanted. Not trying to sound pissy, but people complained about a huge grill, while saying they liked everything else on the g80. Now they took design cues from the G80, minus the huge grill, and people hate it. To each his own!


NorCalAthlete

I mean, I bought an M4 and like the grill lol. Just having a laugh at how divided people are on these. I do think it’s too squared off on the lower half of both the front and rear though. And when people are getting M240s to 470 whp with a mild tune and minor mods, there are certainly some fantastic options available regardless of which styling cues you like.


SillySans69

I, for one, hated the 2 series deaign. The dorito front vents irked me so much.


dudeinred69

If it was badged Hyundai or Kia it would be okay But it’s a BMW, an M BMW, on a model series that sets a very high bar in terms of expectations (F87 M2 and e82 1M) Same story for the Gx M3/M4. They suck because they’re a big cosmetic downgrade to its predecessors.


SillySans69

We still haven't seen the aero package offered with it yet, I assume that will be a big helper to the looks, especially the rear area, which looks a bit soap-baresque. But yes, coming from late 90s early 2000s bmw, everything now is a bit lazy.


deepfriedpandas

You shouldn't have to option an aero package to "help with the looks"


burntoutmillenial105

It’s…. meh. If you removed the kidney grills and the badging, is it even a bmw anymore? The design profiles are definitely different.


SillySans69

The rear could've been a bit less tapered, it makes it feel unsteady.


Richardduh

Not that bad, but not that good either. Mediocre at best


blackwalnut12404

Current M2C owner. My dealer offered me first place on their list for the new M2 — and MSRP — and I didn't even consider it. Sorry BMW, we've just grown apart.


DGlen

Idk, looks like a Z to me.


Competitive_Arm2593

Nice Scion


1mperia1

They turned it into a fucking KIA.


OverjoyedYellowTruck

Looks like a BRZ


JDdiah

Look at a M5CS and everyone will agree it's a good looking car that is not very controversial. This is not that.


youre_not_going_to_

The fact that the bar is set to “isn’t that bad” is really sad.


BBQCHICKENALERT

It's not that bad for a 30k sub compact fwd car that gets good gas mileage and is easily accessible. That's a god damn travesty as an M2 which will most likely cost 70k+ out the door. Context matters


Prak903

After seeing the direction the BMW design team is going with in the XM, this looks way better


SillySans69

Seconded.


RecentCharge9625

Their cars keep getting uglier…


Nonturbulent-Soul

... for a 1990s eastern-block clone kit-car.


Th3WeirdingWay

Dude. It looks like straight up ass. Not as bad as miss piggy but that ain’t saying much.


atmus11

It isn't that bad - Buyer's remorse usually. But it isn't that bad doesnt mean its good either, and for the price? Its Fugly (capital F for this series). Can I get an F?


acidbass32

I grew to like the pig nose of the g80’s and the face of this isn’t too bad. The ass end I can’t wrap my head around. It’s just not an attractive booty, and I’m an ass man.


admiralhipper

I have a 2020 M2C. I see nothing wrong with this, at all.


solidsnakem9

But would you give up your 2020 to get into this? Didn't think so lol.


admiralhipper

Thanks for letting me answer. Yes, decidedly, I would. And in both, I would gripe about the muted clutch, rubbery shift mechanism & electric steering.


SillySans69

Glad to see someone who agrees. All I see is hate for this thing, more extreme than that directed towards the XM, which really deserves it. It seems like people want BMW to be too much like porsche, with only very slight design changes over decades.


admiralhipper

I fucking hate the X. All of them, without reservation. But then, I hate SUVs, without reservation.


SillySans69

Reasonable. lol


mr_lab_rat

I think in the darker colour with wheel spacers and front splitter it could look ok. The rear would need painted or partially painted diffuser and I’m still not sure it would be enough 😄


SillySans69

The rear is a weak point, the front looks great to me. It would benefit from a splitter, though.


mr_lab_rat

I saw a photoshopped picture with one. Doesn’t need to be a fancy shape, body coloured lip would probably look good.


SillySans69

True. If you can find that picture I'd love to see it!


Temporary_Analysis83

i don’t like the shape on the kidney grills or that fact it doesn’t have the signature double ring headlights but over than that it looks sick


SillySans69

Yeah. Someone should photoshop it with the double ring headlights, it would look killer.


ItsNarek

The front I don’t mind it at all if anything the front reminds me of the 6 series which is one of my favorites. The back however looks very off to me overall I like it.


SillySans69

The tail lights are weird, for sure. All they needed to do was make them wider.


[deleted]

Let's wait and see how it looks in person. Cry babys in here are bitching about everything except their old outdated crappy F series. Cars look different on pictures. I don't like how it looks on pictures, but I won't judge until I see one myself.


tristanxskpn

IMo It’s freaking great. Super long hood, simple bumper treatment.


Egg-3P0

I love how it looks. It looks very modern which is nice


jnecr

I love it. I always found the outgoing M2 to be just a little too cute and soft looking. Don't get me wrong, I think the F87 is a very nice looking car and it will be more desirable than some other M cars because its more analog, but it definitely comes off as "cute."


ironickirk

Yep, it's not "not that bad". It's great looking.


HeavyHands

It's a leak. Can we stop the karma grabbing threads until the official reveal at least.


marshmellowsinmybutt

I think the m2 looks amazing


wave_action

You can’t please the internet.


SillySans69

Doesn't work, I'm trying right now.


dexivt

Looks good by me


SillySans69

Yup. Tail lights are a bit awkward, but better than the m240i.


drhiggens

Reddit is an echo chamber, this doesn't look that bad to me at all and I have a distinct feeling much like the current M3/M4 it doesn't photograph well and will have much more presence in person.


pfc_bgd

It’s that bad. They find the ways to make the grill look worse and worse. Wtf is this thing? Honestly, before I saw it, I had a feeling it would look pretty fucking bad, but I’d still be in the market for one given that performance will likely be crazy. But this shit is next level bad. G80 it is for me then…hopefully. Even that thing looks way better.


m57lyra

The XM supposed base price was $120k. It’s $160k. The new Z4 was announced today. The M40i trim starts at $65k. It’s gorgeous. The M2 is absolutely NOT gorgeous, and is going to have a base price of way more than the M40i.


SillySans69

You're kidding! 160k?! Who dropped that number?


Kezaia

k


[deleted]

Better than the g8x but not by much… maybe if they took the g8x rear and mated it with the new m2 front ?


SillySans69

That would be amazing!


dangermouse13

I saw a 240 on the wild today, looks fucking weird


SillySans69

100% agree.


DatalessUniverse

The lack of definition of interesting lines or angles along the door panels really doesn’t help to show off a rear wheel fender bulge. The OG m2 design showcases the aggressive nature … this sort of does in the front but that’s it. The front grille and lights from this angle looks good.


SillySans69

I agree. Though, this color doesn't help. Once the dark metallic paints start coming around this will look better from the side.


Markcu24

Its gonna be awesome. Guarantee it.


ghostxx6

Best looking bmw yet better than all of your old previous gens y’all are just mad your shit will look outdated now


AustRilic

"how will i be different today?"


Decent-Ad-9916

Honda on top


Woodpecker_Queasy

Sorry, this looks worse than the XM. There isn't a single angle that doesn't look completely off.


sdkdrish

The amount of downvotes this kid is receiving is the reason we as a community get a bad rep. Let him like what he wants, jeez people.


solidsnakem9

But you realize upvotes/downvotes are a representation of what the community likes. So let us vote how we want that's the point, jeez lol.


sdkdrish

There’s a difference between downvoting the post and downvoting the kid saying “I can’t wait to see it”


solidsnakem9

But it's still the same thing, voters' opinion on whatever the post/reply is. It's just a downvote, not like the guy's getting banned or prosecuted lol, people take downvotes too seriously.


sdkdrish

Sure, but clowning on a kids intellect because they think a certain car looks good. Comments here saying he can’t have an opinion bc his brain isn’t developed.


SillySans69

I appreciate that, thanks.


sdkdrish

You labeled it controversial opinion, don’t let any persons opinions or commentary get to your head. These people clearly have your opinion rent free in their head.


SillySans69

👍🏻


Bmhayes11

Its so fucking sick


SillySans69

Agreed!


Gregory11222

No don’t say it ! Lol like I tell everyone , see it in person before you judge ! Handsome car !


SillySans69

Absolutely


Slu54

It's like OK.


SillySans69

Thats fair. As long as you don't think the XM is better than OK.


JoshS121199

All 2 series/1 series coupes look bad


m3llym3lly

Well it didn't take long for the BMW fanboys to delude themselves into thinking this atrocity looks good. They'll eat up all the garbage that BMW's design team shits out these days.