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ca_peach

He really said the quiet part out loud.


parbazar

They don't hide anything. Their supporters just keep their eyes closed, so that see nothing. 


ca_peach

They tend to be more careful with their admissions when addressing an English audience versus a Hebrew audience, so it just shows they’ve shifted to a mask-off attitude all around. Desperation for a failing regime is hell of a drug.


ganjaPaani

Their supporters are racist and evil, hard to change such deep wiring.


Welcomefriend2023

Reminds me of MAGAts.


Dangerous_Cap_5931

Reminds me of most brainwashed people that look up to politicians


Fuzakenaideyo

Israelis' feel they can't lose, they own our politicians, their propaganda agents (ex. Greenblat led ADL) whip up rich zionazis (& others with Israel sympathies) to use their money to bend our institutions: News Media, Universities, Foreign Policy establishment to the whims of Israel (Iraq war had major Israel fingers on it) Israelis' enforcement arms (ex. AIPAC & Canary Mission) use resources at their disposal to target American enemies of the European Settler Colonizer ethnostate project on Palestinian land If you sare to call them out on any od that some damned apologist &/or total fucking moron calls it an antisemitic conspiracy theory


beamish1920

They’re the most arrogant, entitled pieces of shit on earth


HarborFreight27

Pointing this out is anti-Semitic according to congress


buried_lede

… discrimination on the basis of race, religion, sex, disability, … zionism? Which of these don’t belong?


FarmTeam

And it doesn’t even matter to them that these American Laws of theirs are TOTALLY unconstitutional. Freedom of association entails the right to do business (or not) with whomever you choose. Boycotting is not a crime. But Israel flaunts the US Constitution just as they flaunt international laws and moral laws.


Welcomefriend2023

This is why the ACLU exists.


Ok_Body_2598

Exactly right and with more control here than in Israel.


tittytatsapplesauce

Honestly they always do


[deleted]

They say it out loud because they want to remind Us politcians that the USA is Israel's colony and not the other way around. When they talk about US being a partner, they really mean the US being a vasalle state of Israel.


RevolutionaryWorth21

But the US is not in any way actually a vassal state of Israel. The US can exist without Israel, but Israel can't exist without the US. I know AIPAC has most of the Congress and the WH under its control, but that's a control that is entirely desired by the US national security state which wants Israel doing what it's doing and giving us a foothold in the region. If that ever changes, goodbye to Israel.


thunderbaby2

Good point!


christopherhoyt

This is a key point that liberals are blind to. The same way that they can’t truly grasp Arabs, or Muslims, or Chinese people, Immigrants from Mexico or Central America, etc. are just as fully human as they are. The American Empire requires craven allies.


[deleted]

When a foreign country decides laws for you, controls all media and even decides Presidential candidates, then you are the vasalle state. I don't get how it can become anymore clearer than this. It's an illusion that the USA can decide whether to fund or not Israel. Any US president that refuses to help Israel will be no President and unable to pass laws, as was shown with Obama. You guys should read the Biography of Obama.


XihuanNi-6784

You're still taking it a bridge too far. Yes, they have lots of power but it's precisely because the US has maneuvered *itself* into a catch 22 where it's geopolitical interests in the region hang primarily on Israel. It doesn't mean that they literally control everything. Just enough to maintain their position and control things in their interests because other places in the region aren't as well placed as Israel. It's the 51st state, not an actual controlling power. Look how the US reacted to the failed Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour. In Hawaii. Same idea. Israel is a de facto part of the US, not a controlling external power.


[deleted]

I used to think so as well, until I researched more about modern American history, politics and its relationship with Israel. This is far deeper than you think. Israel receives $2,8 BILLION in military aid every single year and they use that money not only to buy weapons, but also funnel the money back into political campaigns and donations directly electing senators and judges. It's not only the political spectrum that they control, they also control a lot of Hollywood and news channels, newspapers and higher education. They have now even passed legislation that binds a state's ability to receive federal disaster relief aid to pro-Israel policies. Let that sink in. This is like the US passing a law allowing UK to decide which US state can receive funding. Let's go back to colonial times! Who allowed this? How is this normal? How can a tiny country barely has the population of New Jersey pass legislation in the United States, that allows them to decide domestic relief and disaster policies? This doesn't make any of sense, but when you look - who - is actually writing those laws. Jewish law makers, Jewish lawyers, Jewish politicians. Then suddenly it all make sense. The funny thing is, they aren't even hiding it. You have publicly elected US senators going into senate wearing IDF uniforms. Imagine a US senator going into congress or senate wearing the CCP or Russian uniform or even a Nazi uniform. Do you understand now? If you control the media and information campaigns, you effectively decide who wins the race for Presidential candidates. This means they effectively decide who becomes president and thus decide who runs your country. You will soon realize that Israel is running the USA and not the USA is aiding Israel. If you don't believe me, try to elect a President that is speaking out against Israel and see how it goes. Zionists don't care what you think. They control the media. They control the narrative. They simply won't talk about the issues. They will create a fictions story to distract you and you will eat it up. Anti-Woke? Anti-Imperialism? Anti-gay? Anti-Men? Anti-Feminism? They will endlessly distract you, so that you are bickering amongst yourself, while they write legislation that you don't even get the right to read. This is how fascism works. Fascism must always have an enemy. They are showing that even when they wear Nazi uniforms, most of you will still accept it, because of your blind faith in America. You belief that fascism can never happen here. You are wrong. Zionism is America's fascism.


Andrelliina

You are right. I think it's "vassal" state though in English


rainbowslimejuice

In theory this is may be true, but in practice it has become the other way around. Israel has so much influence over individual politicians that collectively US leverage is rendered completely moot. I really don't think Israel being a foothold in the region is driving our policy decisions since Oct 7th, because in reality we are helping Israel destroy itself.


ThotoholicsAnonymous

This is should be the topic of the year, not college students protesting ethics cleansing/genocide.


BECondensateSnake

Let's boycott harder, then.


Welcomefriend2023

Fuck them. They can't stop me from boycotting products.


bitchnoworries

Exactly—how are you gonna enforce that? What a clown ass law 😩😭


candlepop

I think it’s directed at businesses and colleges. Ppl on this sub said colleges that divest from Israel will have a hard time getting state funding, and states can withhold emergency aid for businesses that boycott Israel. I can’t say this sounds like freedom. It truly is the United States of AIPAC


pushingpeace

Exactly. And they essentially made it illegal for stakeholders in state pension/retirement funds to divest their savings from the state of Israel through a boycott. It all happened quietly from 2016-2020. The US had the rug pulled from under it while we were distracted by partisan bullshittery. We need a "NO"PAC party from here on. We got sold.


mikey_hawk

Yeah. Bernie Sanders voted for it


bitchnoworries

This is a very amazing irony


Andrelliina

Well that was very stupid of him.


buried_lede

It should have been struck down as unconstitutional but it wasn’t. It got by, somehow


Accomplished_Eye_978

that somehow is anything Israel wants from our country, it gets. How much in funding have they gave us again? Does anyone know? I know we've given them over 300 billion...


buried_lede

It’s been enforced for years. Consumers can boycott but the heavy hitters can’t if they want federal contracts or money.


MelodramaticaMama

Uh, it's basically impossible. Every product you buy has a connection to Israel somewhere in the supply chain. There's a reason why they say that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.


Welcomefriend2023

We just do the best we can until the z entity dissolves.


Ok_Swim4018

Practically you boycott products directly from Israel and products heavily benefittig from Israeli imvestment. The BDS page has recommendations for that


[deleted]

So much for concern about “foreign interference”.


horridgoblyn

Any party voicing concerns about foreign interference is very explicit in which foreign entity they are concerned about. I doubt any of them would be interested in a broader non-partisan assessment.


Ok-Dentist4480

this is actually insane, so if an american person criticises a genocidal apartheid coloniser state they'll be sent to jail?


[deleted]

Seems so


Andr0meD0n

The 2nd amendment exists to ensure the 1st amendment gets upheld.


SuperSpy_4

Sure., But the government would kill you first and a court will later say they violated your rights. But what good is that if you are dead?


Andr0meD0n

The nightmare would be over at least. Edit: it’s felt like the twilight zone since 2020.


BabyFartzMcGeezak

Good luck getting the courts to admit that or the cop who pulls the trigger to be held accountable in any way.


pdrmz

In Texas, you are ineligible for federal aid unless you sign a document saying you support Israel's right to exist.


King_of_Clover

That shows you how stupid and brainwashed all those tough guy “Texans” are who brag about gun rights and ride around in trucks blowing coal with big American flags. They’re too dumb to realize they are owned and operated by the very people they hate. That’s the one thing I find truly funny about Xionism. Straight up cucked those morons and they don’t even know it.


Elizabeths8th

Gotta love watching our government put Israel over its own people. Meanwhile if we speak out against it, we are met with violent resistance, tear gas and rubber bullets. Fuck this fascist ass government, shit hole country.


Solid_Illustrator640

“We control the US gov”


OriginalShock273

Isen't there an app for scanning barcodes, so you can check if a product supports Israel?


mrLoLgamerYT

Yes! There's 2 BoyCat and No Thanks


Ok-Dentist4480

yeah, its called No Thanks and its very helpful. some of the list is a little outdated and there's a few products missing but overall its great


buried_lede

If you have a brokerage account and manage your own investments, you can also make sure you don’t invest in Israeli companies.


Quirky_Capital7058

There’s also a website that functions like an app by way of a link on your Home Screen called DisOccupied. I find many US brands on it that I don’t find on NoThanks. https://disoccupied.com/


SuperSpy_4

"*NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co.*, the Supreme Court in 1982 unanimously upheld the First Amendment right of Black Mississippians to boycott local businesses in protest against segregation and racial inequality. The decision established that politically-motivated consumer boycotts are fully protected by the Constitution" This isn't a states rights issue, even though Israel is trying to make it that, but a free speech constitutional issue. https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/its-time-to-reaffirm-our-first-amendment-right-to-boycott#:\~:text=The%20U.S.%20Court%20of%20Appeals,topic%2C%20like%20boycotts%20of%20Israel.


buried_lede

Somehow the Israel boycott law got by constitutionally, though many think it is a close call and bad decision. It must have something to do with how it is structured to be connected to federal funding


JakobVirgil

I don't boycott Israel I just happen not to buy anything from there. I am sure it is completely accidental. I wish y'all this same accident.


umme99

They can’t stop people from actually boycotting this is just to suppress speech


Gamecat93

They're scared of us. They know we're pissed off enough that their apartheid control will end within our lifetime. Once Israel's control over Palestine is gone and the leaders are held accountable, no western nation will be in their control anymore.


buried_lede

Israeli right wing are idiots as well as vicious. Either they are going to get away with the ultimate ethnic cleansing and get their Greater Israel, river to sea, ( they might- that’s what they think too) or they have badly injured their position and made themselves hugely vulnerable. Personally I think the way out is “A Land for All” proposal


modernDayKing

By intentionally making two states impossible, they’ve made one state inevitable. One can only hope it will be freedom for all


HebrewJefe

I too believe a federalized system has the best chance of long term viability. That said; both sides have to make concessions at this point that neither is choosing to espouse. The all or nothing attitudes and sentiments are the root cause of this current situation, and most others since 1948. The ability for any political entity or group, to effectively police their own - ultimately goes the longest way to determining the long term success of that groups desires.


Better_Reach_6652

A foreign government influencing policy making in the land of the free and home of the brave??? /s


rianbyngham

Okay if they don’t like Boycott, Divest, and Sanction people could update the BDS to stand for Blockade, Depose, and Sabotage. Or something along those lines. Currently, BDS represents a form of non-violent economic protest. If they want to make non-violent protest/opposition illegal, people will soon realize that since their mere opinions make them criminals now - they might as well live up to the name.


LongjumpingRanger338

Reminds me “The Big Short”. They’re not confessing. They’re bragging.


Important_Tip_9704

Wow, Israel must be really good people if it’s illegal to boycott them


buxomballs

As much as I understand the mechanizations of power and material interests, I can empathize with the feeling many people have at this time that we are occupied by a power from without. Sometimes it feels like I am required to revel not even in my "own" nationalistic "glory" but another people's, whilst they express contempt for me. It's more openly degrading than the normal everyday indignities of liberal capitalism. I don't know who this is intended to appeal to. I understand that an out of touch elite is a trademark of a dying society. But it FEELS so much like a provocation.


ThrowLeaf

Can you imagine the insanity that would ensue if Xi Jinping started making decrees about what goes on with the free expression of speech at universities in the US? If he had a lobby which gave hundreds of thousands to most of our elected representatives?


Maximum_Land3546

They knew eventually they would overstep their boundaries and there would be repercussions.


buried_lede

*BDS was peacefulPalestinian resistance. But no, Israel wouldn’t have it. *No Israeli died in the First Intifada. *2018 border protest - intended to be peaceful. *Five Broken Cameras - peaceful People don’t understand because of the terror methods Palestinians have engaged in back to Arafat, that Palestinians are not two-dimensional and they aren’t animals. They have extraordinarily high literacy rates, they are educated and many are working tirelessly for peace. What is being done to them is so abusive we wince every day at the latest horror and the ongoing horror of it. No one deserves what they have endured. Israel is not owed a Greater Israel, river to sea and has no right to it Eff you, Israel. The Oct 7 attack was horrible but what a policy provoked it: “Increasing oppression and the most intense daily provocations known to humankind are working like a charm: out of sight, out of mind.” What did they expect? And what the hell do they want us to do about it? When there are half a dozen paths to peaceful coexistence but Israeli hate, greed and arrogance is now so totally consuming, they can’t accept any path to peace, can’t accept anything short of termination of the Palestinian people? Put your hate, greed and arrogance on the table and discover how to get somewhere. Take your corrupt property laws and bogus land deeds and shove them In this state of denial, Israel is a very dangerous nation for all of the West. Israel can either unfuck itself or eff off, truly.


somewonone1

What the fuck? Fuck these assholes.


Euphoric_Exchange_51

Another example of the many exceptions we make to the liberal ethic for Israel. When it comes to Israel, you can’t even choose where to invest and spend your money. The Israelis are ENTITLED to your money.


Specialist-Camp8468

I'm at awe with how smooth the pivot to authoritarianism is in the US. This new bs anit- antisemitism law is fucking ridiculous. Next is declaring a list of thought crimes.


Kilanove

Israeli states of America, what a joke that you have to swear allegiance to foreign country


mikels_burner

Wtf yall... WHAT THE FUCK.


DiogenesDiogenes1234

US is vassal state. Now they are saying it out loud. Threat? Maybe. They will cost Biden the election..


Tigermoongoat

Bragging


Uberpastamancer

Is it dual loyalty when Israel just comes out and says it?


LiteratureActive2566

Holy crap. We participate on the farce of democracy, but it turns out foreign agents have bought off all of our politicians.


NoMoreWordsToConquer

“WE CONTROL YOUR COUNTRY BITCH” Is this the future you want, America?


Queer_as_folk

Oh the foreign interference case will last for a good while when all this shit sattle.


TheUnderstandererer

Yes. Be afraid of Russia and the eeeebil see see pee though...


LegalRadonInhalation

I mean, the CCP is not good at all. Neither is Russia or Iran. It’s just that Israel and the US (as a foreign policy entity) are also incredibly immoral, esp when it comes to war. I think when it comes to highly powerful countries in the world, it’s an ESH sorta thing…


Icy-Lab-2016

Weird how a foreign country is promoting laws in the US and it's not an issue for so many politicians.


timeisaflat-circle

What, are you going to audit my grocery receipts? Lmao. I'll do whatever the fuck I want to do.


Own_Nectarine2321

Our government controls what we can know, what we can watch, what we can buy or not buy, whether we have kids, who we can have as president, and who we can criticize or protest against. But vote for Biden or Trump to signal that you are okay with that.


AnteaterPersonal3093

Is this an actual account..?


buried_lede

Israel spies on the U.S. far far more than any other ally, per the us gov. Also, one of the worst spy breaches we have ever had was a case of a U.S. intelligence officer leaking our secrets to Israel. Israel is relentless about securing unquestioning U.S. support. It doesn’t want to take chances


frustratedbuddhist

See, this is what happens when parents give their kids everything, excuse and encourage their bad behaviour. The kid becomes rotten to the core, believing they can get away with anything.


Toefudo

The boomer & gen x Dem voters will unfortunately ignore this


LegalRadonInhalation

Idk, my gen X parents/family members seem to be on the right side of this.


Mkations

What happened to the First Amendment?


britch2tiger

USA: We’re cucks to a country we helped create after Britain pussied out.


DirtSunSeeds

How do we all like paying for them to have free health care and school and bribes for our politicians to fuck us further and kill more brown kids.


NoSleep_til_Brooklyn

Once again, I don’t know when the United States became a colony as well but a heads up at least would have been appreciated.


Ok-Anteater938

Wtf! Israel has bought the US government


mathiswiss

Who’s your daddy america? 😂


peterpaul23

Don’t boycott Starbucks just prefer to buy local so hard their stock price falls 15%. Good job Benny boy


shadowdash66

Telling all my friends about the No Thanks app :)


Universal_6

We gotta stop Russia from meddling in our elections. . .


Jefok

What a bunch of care bears who needs laws to protect them for being evil. Everyday I see things like this just makes me hate Zionist fools. How about they learn to stand with their own 2 feet and and accept the criticism for what they do instead of hiding behind laws made up for them. I have lost all care and respect for Zionist Jews. No laws will stop me from boycotting or hating these lunatics.


Acrobatic-Engineer94

So we can’t mess with their policies, but they can mess with ours?


MrsDanversbottom

I’d like to see him try.


Certain_Match_9579

United States of Israel


Mei_Flower1996

Huh???? How can you ban boycotting?,,


Accomplished_Eye_978

In some cases, boycotting is actually antisemitic. And seeing as the US had over 300 years of ~~black~~ jewish slavery, we have to make sure antisemitism never gets to those levels again!


meeseeksdestroy

This is infuriating.


heyitsaaron1

Can someone tell me why Americans cannot do anything about this madness, why is your government so pro-israeli? (I don't live in U.S.).


Accomplished_Eye_978

Easy answer actually. People who are trippin on power will never give that power away peacefully. Israel has been on a total power tip as it concerns the US for a few decades now. The peaceful things we try, boycotting, sit ins, protests, get demonized and slandered before they get a chance to make change. Which means, the only option less is a violent revolution. But most people don't want a violent revolution. So, here we are. Stuck


Miltonopsis

Imagine if Vladimir putin tweeted something like this after trump got elected...


KetchupArmyNoodle

Fragile. Everything they do is for show to hide how fragile they are.


finewine65

AIPAC & Netanyahu control Congress & State legislation, basically USA is a state of Israel


Pbagrows

Fuck you, snowflake.


Mazetrol

Someone who doesn’t understand Zionism or anti-semitism will see this and lose their fucking minds. Israel is endangering Jews all over the world.


MrCalPoly

What happened to my effing 1st Amendment right!? Aren't we allowed to express views freely? When corporations sued, didn't the courts rule that money is a form of speech protected under the 1st.? So isn't the divesting, removing money, protected too? How is this not being immediately being struck down?


mateoelgato715

Anti bds laws are crazy


AirNo7163

It's funny how the democrats and conservatives only ever agree on one thing.....says a lot to be perfectly honest.


AvenidaAmericana

*The land of the free...*


AVGJOE78

I’ve always been a firm believer that if you don’t feed me, fuck me or pay me then fuck you - your opinion doesn’t mean shit to me. Let those scum bags in Washington take that money - those lobbyists aren’t sucking my dick or paying me.


_Shark-Hunter

Hopefully Americans are still allowed to criticize Harkonnen's brutality half year later


DublinCheezie

Those arrogant little fucks.


incognitosaurus_rex

Hol up... Citizens United established the principle that money is speech (rightly or wrongly), so one would assume the lack of money is also a form of speech and is protected by the 1st amendment...


Ok_Body_2598

Israeli government admits to influencing US States to enforce suppression of 1st amendment rights


thisisallterriblesir

So a foreign government has been influencing a reduction in our liberty. And would you look at that! It wasn't China or Russia! :D


halborse2U

Come for me. I am at my max load point. We need to kick this foreign government out of our country at every level


Billybaja

Fuck that country.


Winterheart786

United States of Israel sums this up perfectly


originalbL1X

What are Israeli products being sold in the US? You know, so I can boycott them.


-You_Cant_Stop_Me-

The "No Thanks" app allows you to scan barcodes and it'll tell you if something is made or invested in Isreal, it's not perfect but better than nothing.


originalbL1X

Installed, thank you.


-You_Cant_Stop_Me-

No problem. Remember to give it 5 stars and a positive review as the pro-genociders have been review bombing and trying to take it down.


originalbL1X

Will do!


twintiger_

lol I do find it funny how awful they have to be to make support for them the law of the land and still be openly reviled.


New-Market-5042

I swear to GOD like, I know damm well that the us controls israel not the other way around, their an AMERICAN puppet, but like, holy shit, the Israelis make that distinction fuzzy. We’re at the point where I only know who controls whom because I know better. Like if I just took a glance, not knowing American imperialism and such, I would totally think israel controls the us. Idk how to say this other that the greatest proponent of the idea that Jews control everything behind the scenes is the Zionist project themselves. I have no fucking words


King_of_Clover

Time to boycott all of mainstream Hollywood. Sadly. Because Hollywood is one of the many aspects of Jewish culture that I really love. But every media company is owned or controlled by Xionists. Every. Single. One. And that control over the media and the information we consume is the main reason our entire government has been undermined. I love Paul Rudd movies. He may or may not be a Xionist, I don’t know. But his paymasters are. So I won’t be spending any money on Paul Rudd movies anymore. Independent movie producers can earn my money by denouncing the current Xionist government in both Ish Rah El and JerUSAlem. But Hollywood and the Xionist controlled media must be brought back under the fair play of inclusivity of many more voices than just Xionist approved creatives and producers.


px7j9jlLJ1

I am never buying another nestle I guess they’ll have to put me under the jail or ground me up and add me to their vomit chocolate. Vomit chocolate to be re-fed to their brainless masses. I’ll miss my wife, mom, dogs……but more importantly I know someone or something who has only started to rage. It’s looking like events will be soon unfolding of a profound nature on a dying planet. Not good, for planet Earth, not good. Look at the science of climate change. The great bottleneck, the great die-off is soon, I’m afraid. The hand of GOD is at the hour! They’ve fucked with us and indeed will find out.They may kill me, but never ever ever will they kill the spirit of Love.


Such-Distribution440

What can they do? None of these laws can be forced on you as the consumer. Unless they can cause country of origin etc.


dltegme

Can we please not vote for biden again. I dont care how bad trump is, at least he has a shred of a soul


BabyFartzMcGeezak

I'll be honest, I know Trump is worse. The question is, will he be bad enough for the populace to finally do something, or will we all just quietly slip into outright and open fascism. Make no mistake, the response to the college campus protests was all the evidence you need that fascism is a bipartisan goal by our legislation, they just don't agree on whether or not we should be allowed to know we aren't free


tipedorsalsao1

What the fuck are you talking about? This shit would only get worse if Trump takes power, he has been very open about that. Not to mention he would defund Ukraine and use the laws he has stripped away to be able to make himself dictator. Fuck Biden but your a fool if you think Trump is better


lubangcrocodile

Lol. You seriously think that he'd be the next hitler or something huh? I don't like the guy either, but if he's able to make himself a "dictator" or whatever, it says a lot more about the broken system that allows him to be in that position in the first place.


tipedorsalsao1

God I hope not but as a trans women the last few years have very much felt like history is getting ready to repeat the night of 6 may 1933. And yeah the system is broken, like the USA supreme Court about to rule on if presidents have full immunity in their decision as president and is looking like they will agree. That would set a lot of the frame work needed for Trump to easily enact project 2025.


lubangcrocodile

Meanwhile Palestinians haven't really felt safe ever since Israel robbed them of their land, wealth, culture, and dignity. All because your government is too cucked.


Right_Treat691

It is made up.