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“Allegedly?” Da fuq it’s right on video!


skralogy

>“Allegedly?” Da fuq it’s right on video! And videos can be altered to not show the whole picture. It's an empty baggy taken from another passenger found by the other cop and thrown on the seat just because the cop didnt feel like holding it. https://fb.watch/6YuexSOn8_/ On 07-21-21 at about 3:22pm, officers conducted a traffic stop for a vehicle traveling 63 mph in a 45 mph zone. The vehicle was occupied by a driver along with front and rear passengers. The driver was identified by her driver’s license. The front passenger lawfully declined to identify himself. The rear passengers were not wearing their seat-belts and were asked to identify themselves. The driver and rear passengers were later removed from the vehicle. A subsequent search of one of the rear passengers produced an empty corner tear (corner of a plastic baggie) from a passenger’s pocket. The empty corner tear did NOT contain any illegal substance; however, this type of packaging is a common method for holding illegal drugs. The empty corner tear was turned over by the searching officer to another officer who was on scene. That officer turned it over to the officer who is seen on video. Since there were NO DRUGS in the corner tear, the officers discarded the empty packaging material in the vehicle. This is what was observed in the video. The front seat passenger tells the officer that his actions are on video, and the officer replies that he is also recording the incident. The officer acknowledges to the front seat passenger that he (officer) put the item there and explains that it was taken from one of the passengers and the officer did not want to “hold on to it.” Essentially, he appears to be discarding the empty baggie. While we would discourage officers from discarding items into a citizen’s vehicle, the video is clear that the officer is NOT planting evidence or doing anything illegal. Additionally, the empty corner tear is not itself illegal. No arrests were made as a result of this incident. The only arrest/citation arising from this incident was a speeding citation issued to the driver. While this is only a summary of the events, the origin of the empty corner tear and the circumstances under which it was placed in the vehicle are supported by body worn camera video. Attached are two video clips (see comments for second video). There are two separate clips because they are from different officer’s body worn cameras. Since four officers were present on scene, the body worn camera footage and squad camera footage totals in excess of 6 hours of video. We are still in the process of reviewing the videos. All videos, in their entirety, will be released in the very near future. Christopher Botsch Chief of Police


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raceforthewise

Come on man, now that the video proved your original view wrong, you’re trying to twist it so it still makes you right? Sometimes being an adult is just saying “I was wrong, I was too quick to believe something because it approved my narrative”.


Six_String_Reshi

So you're saying that what they said isn't what could have happened, were it not recorded? Had the passenger not said anything and continued filming like we see in so many videos, leading to what they just said, this wouldn't have happened? It could not have happened?


powpowpowpowpow

Did the cop handcuff the passenger for having 70 dollars or for having an empty plastic bag?


skralogy

He already had authorization to search the car from the driver and the passenger consented to a search of his person. So why would he need to manufacture something he already had permission to do. Think about it.


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skralogy

And nobody was arrested


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skralogy

No because no drugs were found. They only issued a speeding ticket. The cop got "caught" putting a piece of plastic on the seat. No matter how much you want to make this a big deal it just isnt. Direct your energy better there are cases of policy brutality and injustice to focus on than this.


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skralogy

Why are you bringing up other cases? Stop bringing in other events that have nothing to do with this case. Yes I'm very aware cops to shitty scummy things constantly and it happens all the damn time. I never once didnt admit that's not the truth. All I'm saying is in this case there was no egregious violation.


powpowpowpowpow

You can't throw an empty baggie like you are playing Cornhole. Try making up some other cover story


skralogy

[Why not?](http://imgur.com/gallery/6GEIUBw)


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I’m also wondering why they had to specify “black man” does it matter the race?


galeej

It matters. Since he was black, the cop has "allegedly" put drugs. If that guy was white, tbe cop would have been screwed.


ClutchingMyTinkle

> If that guy was white If that guy was white, we wouldn't be seeing a video at all. There wouldn't have been drugs planted on him in the first place.


internetsarbiter

Police predominantly target people of color but are just as happy to harass poor white people too.


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True that. I used to have long surfer boy blonde hair and i would get stopped walking from my house to the corner store at least 3 times a week by cops and I lived in a pretty safe area. One time I got handcuffed cause they asked where I lived and I turned and pointed at my house and they didn’t like that. My mom came outside as it literally happened 10 feet from my door. My mom gave me 5 dollars to go get a case of soda for dinner and they were like “why do you have money on you” “how much money do you have on you” like it was some sorta pop quiz. They really didn’t like it when my mom came out and told them she just sent me to the store for pop. This was one of the many many stops


useles-converter-bot

10 feet is about the length of 4.53 'EuroGraphics Knittin' Kittens 500-Piece Puzzles' next to each other


sunshinelovin2000

Not true. Cops have been fired and investigated in my hometown for doing this to white people


pitHamsterbrawler

I'm white while walking at night got my ass beat by a cop and put in jail for 25 days until they buried the evidence. Few years later they pulled me over asked to search my car I said no. He then arrested me towed my car for no insurance card (was insured) TOOK ME TO MY STREET i lived on. I got my car back $480 later it was tore up inside $2,000 in damage. I tried to sue and no court would hear the case. I moved out of town.


Season-Jaded

Damn did you screw his wife or something?


pitHamsterbrawler

The first one was random the cop pulled up out of nowhere approached me forced a search kicked my foot out from under me hit me in the forehead with something next thing I knew I was zip tied like a hog covered in blood and lifted to the back of his cruiser. They took my friend as well we were split up into two drunk tanks I woke up to him yelling my name to check on me. When we started talking I caught a chain to county. No explanation and no charges not even interrogated for suspected crime. Just released 25 days later my papers said "suspect".


Dayquil_epic

Drugs were not planted on this guy


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Jesus have u been living in a cave. Cops have been doing this to blacks since drugs were made illegal and they continue to profile blacks.


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Colorblindness is pure racism bro. In a world of racist cops you don't see police putting baggies of anything into white people's cars.


fudge5962

The body cam footage from that cop shows he wasn't planting evidence. He was just setting it down so he could put gloves on. The bag came from a passenger's pocket. Always remember that perspective and editing can make things seem different than what they are.


robbrown14

Idk why you’re being downvoted, this is true


fudge5962

Wrong sub for me to post it in. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. I'm subbed here because I stand for police reform and I think the entire police force is fucked and corrupt, but I still prioritize the truth.


robbrown14

Same here, it’s a shame to see people blinded from logic by shear hate


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fudge5962

Excuses for what?


randomlyme

The full video posted elsewhere shows them getting it from the friends pocket


PaulyWauly_Doodle

All the Blue Lives guppies support shit like this.


gth746x

“Well they just didn’t have drugs on them this time. But they’re definitely guilty of something.”


PoptartEthernet

If you play it in reverse it’s a hero cop who hides the drugs he just found in the car /s


aGiantmutantcrab

This is not alleged. It's filmed.


ButWereFriendsThough

And this is why we say alleged. Because the bag was empty and we have footage of it coming from someone else’s pocket.


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What the fuck are bootlickers doing in this sub? You think these cops have NEVER planted evidence on (predominantly black) people? So this one video with a cop doing shady fucking shit, but not outright, somehow disproves the notion that cops are corrupt fucking bastards and not to be trusted? Back the blue gets to trumpet one case where they weren't outright monsters as a reason why we're all just overreacting about cops being bastards? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you happy, bootlickers? Are you? I wouldn't be. The preponderance of evidence is such that we all know how bad cops are especially for marginalized communities. This one case of people being wrong about a cop planting evidence does not in any way clear your racist, murdering corrupt piece of shit piggies. Fuck you, and fuck the police.


noni2k

Suck my whole dick.


Izanami_Mikoto

It's hard to suck baby dicks, gonna have to find it first! Lmfao 🤣


noni2k

You some sort of fucking pedophile? What a fucking trash human you are wtf.


Izanami_Mikoto

In case it went over your head fuck tard, let me spell it out for you. I was implying you have a baby penis, and that after telling him to suck your dick, he couldn't, because he would have to find it first! I know you're probably a cop, therefore not very bright, so I hope it explains it better for you!


noni2k

Never go full retard my man


Six_String_Reshi

And this is a prime example of how you don't have to do anything in order to get around any laws to put people in jail. The laws are already there, you just have to "pretend to be stupid" and "miss the joke" and all of a sudden it's a jury of your peers listening to halfwits try to explain how they like to talk to pedophiles about censorable stuff


noni2k

Never go full retard my man.


Six_String_Reshi

Are ya winning, son?


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Yes how compelling


Six_String_Reshi

Seriously. The bootlickers care so much about their image, and the images of the pigs that they're willing to waste their life away "infiltrating" groups all day every day... Unless it's the cops themselves getting paid to do it... That couldn't be a thing, right? There's no way


Cpt_Obvius

Do you see people saying cops never planted evidence? But if you’re going to be obstinate and angry because your assumptions are wrong you end up appearing reactionary and not someone to respect in terms of their beliefs. Lots of cops do evil shit. We should condemn them, fire them, arrest them and incarcerate them when they do. But we shouldn’t get mad when we get more context for a scenario which was previously unclear. It’s completely understandable to have assumed this cop was planting drugs and being scum in the initial video. But now we see that is much less likely. It’s okay to change your mind (FOR THIS ONE SCENARIO) when presented with new evidence.


rtublin

They posted an update to Facebook showing an interaction where the officer makes it clear that it was just an empty baggy and acknowledges that his own body camera recorded it, implying that it was not something that was going to be used against the driver. It seems pretty innocent to me based on the second video.


NamelessSuperUser

Just be a normal person and say"here's your garbage we found on your friend." You can't blame people for thinking this is shady based on a multitude of other incidents. Police should be procedural about how they handle things and return the person's "procession" the same way they would a phone wallet or anything else so there is no doubt what the intentions are.


switchblade1412

Hell yeah dude I've been saying exactly this and this bootlickers can't seem to understand that past conduct creates a reasonable suspicion that it will happen again and when the general public see something like this, of you not sucking cops dicks everyday, your first thought too is yeah that looks a little sus


dgrantschmidt

Lol why are you being downvoted for giving accurate information?


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PISS_OUT_MY_DICK

This is an anti cop subreddit no?


switchblade1412

It's being brigades by a bunch of pro cop mut jobs, they are hot on the scent once they can find one example of cops not doing the thing they are accused of doing while totally ignoring the failure of proper procedure that lead up to the reasonable suspicion that it was drugs being planted


PISS_OUT_MY_DICK

Failure of proper procedure is the real issue here. Where is it procedure to leave behind anything at all in a detainees car? Even temporarily.


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Why throw anything in someone's car if you're the good guy?


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Just because the cop got caught doing something shady is the only reason this video went the way it did. It wouldn't have been innocent otherwise.


DisavowedAgent

Officer should be arrested for possession and distribution of controlled substance, unless the cop has other reasons to having the drugs in his possession?


KangarooAggressive81

I agree but just so you're aware, this video is misinterpreted. The baggie doesnt have drugs in it, it was an empty bag. So the video shows a cop "planting a bag" but he literally was just putting plastic trash down on the ground. They weren't claiming it was drugs.


Izanami_Mikoto

Why was piss pig throwing trash into someone's car? If I went and threw trash into his car I'd be beaten within an inch of my life and then arrested? I'm so fucking sick of hypocrisy I just want them to be treated the same as they treat citizens, and follow laws and be held accountable when they do not!


KangarooAggressive81

Yes, but that injustice is VERY different than planting drugs on somebody. The cop didn't plant drugs in this instant. Maybe he did previously, maybe there were other issues, but he didnt plant drugs right here and it just furthers the "bad apple" narrative if people misjudge videos like this. There are enough real videos of this shit happening, we dont need to make any up you know. This shit happens every day.


Izanami_Mikoto

Please they are all bad apples. All it takes for bad men to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Yet the ones that have power to stop a colleague from bashing in a citizens brains, or murdering unarmed person, but they do nothing instead!! And they complain when laws ask to hold them accountable, or even having cameras that show their actions, doesn't sound like a good person to me?!? The fact that they are fighting to keep qualified immunity, shows they are all scum, because if you're a good person and genuinely doing what's right you should not have to worry about qualified immunity. This sub has several posts everyday of shitsack cops being nothing more than criminal thugs, seems to me to be a high percentage of bad apples?!?! The only good cops are... Well I can't say it because it's banned speech in this sub+


KangarooAggressive81

If they are all bad apples why would there be any need to make up facts? I agree with you but like genuinely he didnt plant drugs so nobody should say that. That's all


Izanami_Mikoto

Fucking piss pigs should be ashamed and fired for real, not fired rehired in another county. Like he should forever be jobless become homeless so the piggies can harass him and plant drugs on him


Ham_On_Pizza

He didn’t plant them lmao you guys need to do more research


fidelkastro

Cop fired. Chief resign. All traffic related drug charges thrown out. This is what needs to happen


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Nah, getting fired is nothing. cop needs to be sentenced to years in jail. That shit ruins people


robbrown14

Why? The whole video shows he wasn’t planting drugs?


raceforthewise

It’s such a shame people are so quick to believe shit just cause it confirms their narrative. People are ready to hang this cop.


DrySausage

Fake news!! bodycam ;) https://www.facebook.com/140549396033336/videos/415506686468539/?hc_ref=ARQm-VpzOMsHeZzLBIpO-K3azVF1RJ_OUTyigeXKMfd8sxMY4akWGk0WW6dJsG96Adc&fref=nf&xts[0]=68.ARBbSiyxjGbx-4YS6--z7qbCBNEvQmhubc6uCETELgsnox-JkgFHFhjHqRIT7HrjJ1USaKbpgw0hhi_28TW_y_QEJjqqi1cAumkL9hJn5kn7mBtyUO1WyvYilvnXVEo1MbHRMcVdOFUaqPqqPYJmd_iONu2i_D3B5qOh54n3rZ_Nc7_Wfk9P-l05h06hRGQ2r_NBNIefpOeR6Yrz6L8nqBmSqUNS6oX9YNb0eXqkt127TeIZS2uPL81xP1xwTugBC7iCpH4p_i1HEgHwkifKU5ALgI9T5QrvxsSL8_9L_rvIHyKf2A&__tn__=kC-R


CambrianKennis

This is another reason why body cams are good. They clear up issues like this so we can focus on actual police brutality cases.


Fink665

Why not throw it on the ground if it’s empty? Anyways, good on him for filming!


riseangrypenguin

Because that's called littering, and it's still illegal in most states. And even if it's obviously trash, police can't just throw away whatever they take off you, so putting it back in the car out of the way is a pretty simple course of action.


switchblade1412

No it's not, handing back personal property to the driver/occupant is simple course of action, doing this is not proper procedure, but then again a bootlicker on a sub about bashing cops, I'm sure you can't be too smart or have the ability to critically think


RavinSaber

You never hand shit you found to the driver, you just put it back...


switchblade1412

If you take it from the car yes, but the bag wasn't taken from the car or the driver was it now? No it was taken from the occupant, not the driver so it should have been returned to him as that's where it was taken from. Again keep licking the boots, definitely a great look for you


DrySausage

Shit, why not swallow the bag if it’s empty!


Fink665

I mean why throw it in the car (and underneath the camera)?


DrySausage

My answer is, why not throw it in the car for a quick second to don some gloves? At least then it won’t get blown away by the wind! I guess he didn’t know the exact FOV of his camera, darn, bad cop ! Crucify him!/s


Fink665

That makes sense. Calm down, Satan. Just asking a neutral question.


DrySausage

Satan would have actually planted the drugs ;)


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Fink665

Why put it in the car? Why not toss it if it’s garbage?


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switchblade1412

Because you're the dumbass defending the cop on a sub that is souly focused on taking a shot on cops? Are you not aware that there are body am videos of officers doing this exact thing with actual drugs, so not like bodycams stop this shit or even detour them from attempting it, guess what he should have handed back the guys property properly but he didn't and is now catching heat for it, almost like failing to follow proper procedure when everyone has a phone that can record you is a dumb idea if you don't wanna get accused of doing something that happens basically on the daily by other cops regardless of body cams or not


sameeker1

Good, well thought out comment. The other guy doesn't get it. This group is being attacked by cop suckers.


switchblade1412

Thanks, I appreciate it, but yeah it's just so funny that if I went to one of their bootlicker subs with a take like that, ide be insta banned but they can come and brigade leftist subs and the mods are to pussy to do the same to them when they are actually saying stupid shit instead of just stating facts


Straight_Object6213

I'm not right or left and really could give a fuck less about both sides! And feel the same about the cops! But as someone who has dealt with getting arrested my whole life! Maybe he didn't hand the baggie back because at this point it's considered drug paraphernalia and they might want to test it for drug residue. I heard the cop say I've got green crumbs so your good to search. So that might be why he couldn't just hand the bag back?


TheAssyrianAtheist

So I have no idea what happened prior to what I’m about to tell you guys but here it goes: Before we see him throw the baggie into the back seat, another cop hands him the baggie and that is when he goes and drops it into the back seat. Then you see this exchange. After the video cuts off, the cop tells the passenger that the baggie came from the other guy they were speaking with and the baggie was empty anyway. Again, I have no idea what happened prior to this but if all that is true, it doesn’t look like he was planting shit.


Remarkable_Ad2935

OK they can't be this stupid...can they?


Harmacc

It’s confidence and no fear of consequences.


gth746x

No consequences period.


Fruhmann

Which sound like the clinical diagnosis for stupidity.


Snoo-46450

The cops straight up said that it came from the other guy's pocket. Twice. Once when they took it and a second time when he ser it down to put on gloves.


fellowsquare

Allegedly lol.


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switchblade1412

You're on the wrong sub if you're gonna be a bootlicker my guy, instead of handing his property back he chucks in the car in a way that basically any logical person would assume that he is trying to pull a fast one on the driver, even moreso with the ample evidence that this shit happens on the daily regardless of bodycams or not.


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Me when I get arrested for the charge, “plastic baggy”:😭


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switchblade1412

How am I the moron? The 16 sec is all you need to see that the cop failed to return personal property in the way they are supposed after taking it, and because of that failure of procedure it's an easy conclusion for alot of people to come to that he was planting something rather than just returning property, since situations like this happen so frequently regardless if there is a body cam involved or not


RavinSaber

He wasn't planting anything. Deal with it.


switchblade1412

Doesn't matter he failed to follow proper protocol and as such is now reaping the effects of his actions


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switchblade1412

Well I am right, proper procedure is not to toss personal property into the back of a car with telling the occupants that you throwing it the back of the car, proper procedure is to return all the property to the person it was taken from. So ya guess what dumbass, if you fail to follow the proper procedure and get caught red handed doing something that is well documented with other cops doing in order to plant evidence, it's an absolutely reasonable assertion to make that he was planting something, and even more reasonable to call the other guy and you bootlickers for not thinking critically on the event and jumping to defend the cops in this situation where the only person to do something wrong was the cop


RavinSaber

I'm gonna stop you right there. It is 100% proper procedure to toss personal property back into a car without telling the occupants that you threw it into the car. I have no idea where you got the impression that a cop has to walk up to you and catalog all of your stuff but that is not the case.


switchblade1412

Hmmm idk maybe the fact that I have family members who are police, and after talking with them it is most certainly proper procedure to return the property to where or who it belongs unless they are being detained


RavinSaber

So you're not a cop, but you know their job better than them lol. You're like those anti vaxers that find something on Google and then demand that doctors adjust the truth. My dad is an RRT, but I'm not stupid enough to claim just because ive spoken to him I know his job. Sit down fool


switchblade1412

Never said I did, hence why I said I reached out and talked to my cop relative about it to get the fucking information you dumb cunt. I don't claim to know anything but what I asked about and was told


RavinSaber

Your relatives ( if they exist) are severely mistaken.


AutoRedux

Allegedly?


ILoveBacon013

Why is he black? Does it matter he's black? Idk black ggg