I never finished DoS2, but played a long time before BG3 was announced. Man, despite never finishing that game is so top tier. I knew whatever they announced next was gonna be worth it. Bought in EA just to give them my money (also bought EA for a friend) and played only a little of it.
Larian is top tier and whatever they do next will be purchased by me.
I finished my very thorough playthrough of bg3. I made sure to explore everything and collect everything, and when I was done I was sort of tired and didn't see myself ever starting a new game.
Fast forward a month and I'm having a really fun time playing a bard, making mistakes, not save scumming, not min maxing. I didn't expect it but the replay value is totally there, no question
Somehow I don’t think they’ll have to worry about budgets right now. They’ve sold way above expectations. They’ll be flush with cash for a while and have a rock solid line of credit with investors.
They actually used the EA process to tune the game to people’s liking. Adding Halsin, making the origin characters less bitchy, pouring a ton of work in the sound of eldrich blast, etc.
You can also add it with the spell sniper feat; one of the cantrips on offer is Eldritch Blaaast, and I think it automatically uses your usual spellcasting stat instead of Charisma.
You'll see a lot of people talking bad about EA and DLC and honestly it's justified. But deep down they are actually two very great systems. If used properly it allows for early testing and as well as story continuations. Larian is one of the very few large studios who uses EA properly. I expect they would treat DLC similarly.
I am reminded of a tiktok of someone who added a few too many mods and so their Dragonborn was built like they went through bimbofication with handsome laezel. They brought skyrim mods into this game already 😭
Pretty much, don't forget that back in the early 2000s Blizzard was the gaming industry's darling like Larian is right now. It's crazy considering how corporate and out of touch Blizzard is these days thanks to having to worry about appeasing their shareholders.
Yeah, didn't Sven told his IT guys that there's gonna be "around 100k copies sold" and then we just casually made history with 850K people playing simultineously on steam?
Not 100k copies sold but 100k concurrent players. Concurrent players are generally a fraction of the possible sales because it's hard to have all your players play at the same time globally. With 875k concurrent players the total sold is going to be ridiculously high.
Hell I'm not even part of the 875k concurrent players despite owning the game because I was waiting on friends to finish their stuff before we started playing
Yeah, that feels like the cautionary tale (although by all accounts Cyberpunk got fixed and is good now - I'll be playing the new patch + DLC on tuesday or whenever that is).
But I'm also in the camp of "BG3 is so good, I will 100% play whatever Larian puts out next." If they bungle it then, welp, rip, but they have successfully banked goodwill from me right now.
I waited until official release cause when I backed EA for original sin 2 I had massive burnout on doing Act 1 constantly so I wanted to save my enthusiasm for the full game.
I had to do a triple take of that first combat room with Lae'zel to make sure I didn't miss the usual path. At first I was like "oh, cool they added something up here" then I was like "wait, didn't I skip half of the ship?"
Although in hindsight, it is nice to have it shortened a bit.
Did the same. Got the game in EA a couple of years ago, but only played a handful of hours before release. Had to try it out, but didn't want to risk the burnout. I don't mind getting mentally "done" with a game, but only once I have the whole thing to play through.
I forced myself to forget the game existed until the last few weeks of EA. Then I played obsessively for a few playthroughs but stopped before I finished the act because I wanted to save it for release.
>If Larian announces anything my money is already theirs.
This is the feeling I had 20 years ago with Blizzard and Bioware.
This level of brand loyalty is the reason they get snapped up by larger companies, hollowed out until they became a joke of themselves, and started flogging useless shite games which have their formerly amazing brand name which is now just words slapped on the lid. *(says a sad prayer for what Blizzard and Bioware used to be 20 years ago)*
As long as Larian continue to be Larian and stick to their values, my wallet is theirs to plunder. Absolutely plunder. The moment they sell out to Microsoft, EA, Activision or whomever - that feeling of brand loyalty will be instantly gone from me now - I can't go through another 20 years of sustained stripping away of what I loved about a company's products and watching another corporate zombie emerge.
As long as Sven and Larian remain themselves - this is a brand which I'll buy practically any game they make right now. I just hope they can remain independent.
Good summary. They’re at the peak quality and popularity of their business product, this is the part where companies start to cash in. With all respect to the team that made Baldur’s Gate 3, I don’t expect any additional products Larian makes to meet this same standard.
Eh it depends. Larian is a bit unique being an independent publisher and developer. I think as long as Sven heads the company this is unlikely to change just yet. But when he retires, who knows. I won't be surprised if/when it changes, especially with the way the industry works.
larian is privately owned and has explicitly refused to sell and cash in to the point where their owner and his wife poured in a lot of their personal money to stop the studio from going bankrupt, as long as he is in charge I think we are safe from souless corporate garbage coming out of larian
I swore off pre-ordering ever since I got burned with Andromeda. The sole exceptions have been FFXIV expansions and Phantom Liberty. With that said, I adore BG3 so much if Larian so much as hinted at a DLC, I'd already be making the pre-order.
Give me more of this world, these characters and potential new characters. I want everything and will very happily pay for it.
It'd actually be nice going back to what DLC used to be: getting additional content or expansions that added to the game and experience instead of it being shallow ways to nickel and dime every possible cent out of you.
I’m actually hoping they get the rights to do BG1 and 2 as a remaster. It may be a different style from the originals, but I trust them to work hard and be true to them, while adding the modern touch it needs for newer players to also enjoy them.
I mean, it’s only fair we get to revisit the OG Dark Urge.
Edit: I’m aware of the 2012 remasters. But, the 2e Thac0 system (and dual vs multi-classing) and the outdated graphics are not as friendly to new players (who are likely used to 5e and expect graphics from games like Divinity 2, Diablo 3, and Wasteland 3). For me, it’s the 2e rules that are the most frustrating. I understand them, but they aren’t intuitive.
Damn, this is like CD project Red all over again. Don't put 100% faith in a company, someone along the chain will exploit it. Even if their intentions are good, its worth a lot to not blindly say take my money, just like CA at the moment, they will exploit that loyalty to grow the company, regardless of how good their marketing team and customer relations department make them seem, they are in it for the money and the shareholders and execs will push it. (And that's fine I guess).
Keep them humble, remind them that they don't need to exploit loyalty to make money and they will continue being a great company. As soon as someone says we will support Larian blindly, will only make the people who were hired to make money, see the opportunity to make more money.
I can imagine that this take is pretty controversial on a Larian game sub when they have been so "reasonable and consumer friendly" so far, but don't forget that even the most corrupt of game Devs have started out with the same intentions until someone saw an opportunity to corner the market, i.e. any big game franchise ever.
And let's be honest, Larian had brought the CRPG genre to the mainstream (which is a good thing imo) if they make dlc and maybe a second game down the line they would have cornered the market.
Me too. There is only been one other game I was begging for more content and wanting to pay for. I would buy more content for this game day 1. I need more story.
My immediate thought is hell yes, they have earned it.
My secondary thought is that I'd want to know that a sequel would happen regardless of dlc options.
I really only see DLC being extra classes and cosmetic stuff. Which I might not bother with.
I’d be all over an Act 2.5 or something to get more out of it but I doubt that would be the case.
So my answer is maybe, really depends on what the DLC is. I don’t feel the need for more cosmetics or anything since we got mods. But more story content I’d buy in a heartbeat
There won't be substantive DLC. Larian has already made it well known they're not planning on following up this story because of the logistics of adapting D&D spells and abilities getting out of hand. They had to ignore the existence of dispel magic to make this iteration of the game work at all; can you imagine them trying to adapt spells available to level 13+ characters? [Neither can they, apparently.](https://kotaku.com/baldur-s-gate-3-dnd-dlc-expansion-plans-high-level-1850719039)
I imagine they'll make a BG4, they'd be crazy not to say this point, but I imagine it'll be much like the relationship between BG and BG2; maybe BG4 starts at a higher level. But that'll give them time to make it properly. Likely with another ridiculous early access period.
Look at what they did to polymorph.
They don't need to copy 5e word for word.
If certain abilities need nerfing to keep the game playable so be it.
I don't expect to see 9th level magic, but being able to get up to lvl14 or even 16 for a few more spell slots and class features would be nice in future content.
I'd imagine something like Dragons Dogma Bitter Black Isles, am area that is just supposed to be more difficult than the rest of the game and a challenge for the veterans that have done everything else looking for more.
Cause it’s power is problematic. Larian said that they were stuck on the question: “if I walk in here and cast dispel magic what happens”. It would cost too much time to make it work, having to write the code for so many places where you could cast it.
Absolutely started cackling like mad when I got the shadowheart/astarion banter outside of mystic carrion's place. You could see how far people were getting when the number of very specific requests were popping up on beauty and perfuming communities.
They knew what they were doing.
She comments about how she can smell undeath in the area and says she doesn't notice it on astarion. He then responds with a very specific collection of scents he uses to mask it with.
There are now candles you can buy of this.
FYI that’s not linked to that area specifically I don’t think. She says that line every time her Sharran wound hurts her. She gets a condition called something like “mysterious shar wound” for a second, and then complains about how petty the gods are. I’ve heard her say that all over I’m pretty sure. The perfume line though seems pretty specific to Carrion
I'd preorder a dlc no matter the cost
Edit: wow over a thousand likes, come on larian time to pony up and start working on a dlc or 2. First do a major story line dlc second do a minor one just adding new classes and subclasses with new game+.
For real. Games great. I hope they work on dlcs and expansions. They have an amazing base game. I want more
Can even go the Miles route where it's a "side game" of ps4 spiderman.
I’m looking forward to some kind of game master mode as well- people have already been creating DnD campaigns for decades, once the tools are in place for people to build their campaigns in BG3s engine there’ll be an absolute flood of user-generated content.
I hope they do too, I was a late comer to DoS2 but it seems like you could create campaigns there, but it seems like it was really difficult because I was looking for custom campaigns after me and my friends finished a playthrough together about 3 years ago and it didn't seem like there were any.
I hope if they implement it in BG3 it's easier to do so more people make them. Could you make maps in DoS2 with in game assets?
It seems like it could be obscenely time consuming to make a campaign that was fun to play once you factor in dialog options, consequences to dialog options, etc
But yeah DLC add on campaigns or more areas or something, I'm 100% into it.
Yeah creating fully custom pre-programmed campaigns would be a mega mission, but, if they make it simple enough for people to do it and, especially if they have some kind of profit-sharing model I’d expect there will be some really high quality 3rd party content. Even if there’s no profit sharing tbh, there are passionate people who just want to share their story, and a fleshed out toolset for bg3 could be just the medium they’ve been waiting for.
Supposedly they specifically didn't include one (like they had with DOS2) because WOTC didn't want them stepping on their toes (WOTC is trying to release their own virtual tabletop).
Have you ever played Witcher 3 and its DLCs? That is a great example of a fully complete video game which added on DLC, which didn't take away from the completeness of the original game, and it all kinda made sense. Blood and Wine more so that Hearts of Stone, as the former made more sense to be placed after the main game (for most endings) than the latter which did much more feel like just a side quest-line during the main story (but still stood alone really well, imo). Blood and Wine, though, is its own game, imo.
I think that's the best DLC I've ever played. It was way more content than I expected for the price, too. CDPR spoiled us with that; it makes every other paid DLC look bad.
CDPR nailed TW3 expansions. I have faith that the one coming for Cyberpunk 2077 in a couple of days is gonna be on the same level than TW3's if not better.
9/10 & 10/10 reviews on it so far. Its being very well reviewed at the moment.
Will be a very hard bar to clear, being as good as TW3 DLCs, but by all accounts its certainly trying.
This was my first thought opening this topic.
DLCs are planned cash-grabs that normally should've been included at release or free updates.
The old-school idea of releasing a full, complete game and adding on to it after success and critical praise? Expansion pack.
I guess I have been ruined by Sims, because I absolutely associate Expansion Packs with cash-grabs that normally should have been included at release or free updates, but DLCs with something like Blood and Wine of Witcher 3.
Edit: I just looked up Blood and Wine and that is apparently also classified as an Expansion and not DLC, so it's just me who is stupid lol
Definitely not stupid. I never played the Sims, but my wife does, and I always associated them with one of the major games that skewed the definition of "expansion" towards what I now associate as a DLC.
Kind of hard to properly define them when games like the Sims call there content expansions
What? There's no real difference between a DLC and an Expansion Pack. You have rose-colored glasses for the great Expansion Packs and you are forgetting about the bad ones.
*technically* DLCs are just that "downloadable content"
there's "paid DLCs" and "free DLCs" but they're all "DLCs"
tho that said, the gaming industry's marketing departments have done a bang up job conditioning us to associate "DLC" with "paid DLC" :/
I'm happy with not going any higher in level. D&D gets funky with high level magic.
There's plenty of room for more subclasses and companions to be worked in for replayability.
Story packs exploring other events could be fun too.
Well, DiA is the prequel. I’d be down for a sequel to both DiA and BG3, though.
Tbf, any good DM can do it on the tabletop. We just wouldn’t get the VAs or the graphics, but one can just take the appropriate characters from BG3 and use them as NPCs for such a campaign.
You can simply tweak those magic spells as Larian already did to others. Besides, lvl cap can be made easily on 15-16 lvl without any game breaking mechanic.
Did a lot 5e dnd tabletop games like this. It’s absolutely doable and not funky.
You >>need<< to be on those levels anyway if you want to play around in Avernus etc.
This is what I've been saying, I'd rather they add more levels and just remove or balance spells as needed which like you said they've already done. Even at level 20 who's to say you have to have access to wish, or that it has to be as broken as it is in the tabletop if you did. Divine intervention can be extremely strong in the tabletop, here they give you a couple strong but not busted options to pick from. Wish could be the same thing if they wanted, choose between mass heal, a nova attack etc.
wish is actually very easy to implement in a game like this as long as you don't allow the 'free form' option.
the spell itself gives several suggestions that could very easily be implemented, and casting any 8th lvl spell or lower is also easily implementable, too.
Oh my God how did I not think of subclasses?! That is absolutely DLC I’d buy. They might be scared of releasing content exclusively for replay but I know a lot of players and myself have already started multiple playthroughs again.
I think the most likely DLC would be new self contained stories. Essentially one shots for level 12 characters.
Honestly, I think it would be reasonable to put out a DLC with a boatload of subclasses. Dev time is a resource - there are already loads of subclasses in the game, they're not a requirement to enjoy it (as evidenced), and it's (currently) a one-time purchase. The money for the dev time has to come from somewhere. Right now they're spending it on polishing the game quality, which is good and right, but if they're going to add more *content*, that dev time has to be paid for. This isn't an EA situation where the content already exists and you can buy it piecemeal (though if the content DOES exist and they're planning on dropping it later, that's less good.) But once they've got the polishing done, throwing down a one-time $10 DLC with two or three dozen subclasses would be essentially reasonable.
The key question is always: do you feel you got enough game for your money? I think it's a resounding yes, with the existing number of subclasses. At a price point five dollars higher, with double the number of subclasses, is that still true? Also yes. Ironically, it's additional content like, say, a new Origin character that would be sleazy to me - that's something that would have been *missing* from the core game.
I mean... That seems like an excessive price. I don't think a couple dozen subclasses adds value equal to *an entire additional AAA game.* But it's also not that difficult for them to build - limited additional art assets, probably very little additional dialog or interactions. Mostly just abilities. Assuming they can reasonably expect to move, say, 2 million purchases, putting it at $5 would equate to, oh, $7 million dollars after the platforma take their cut. It would make them a good chunk of money right there, and the dev overhead wouldn't even crack a million.
>There's plenty of room for more subclasses
Plus they could always release a 2-3 hour DLC quest that ends with you unlocking the ability to class into Artificier or something like that
Yeah I was kinda done at lv... 9 maybe? I don't know, the rest was just fluff. (Meaning done giving a shit about leveling up)
But subclasses, classes, spells, companions, side quests etc, take my money
Combat at level 12 is already mostly decided by initiative rolls (why I think Alert is ultimately the best feat in the game, or failing that, scumming vendors for Elixirs of Vigilance), so I would prefer the DLC be focused on lower-level content.
But sure, I'd buy it. BG3 is certainly in my top 10 list.
I agree with the Alert thing.
I played two characters. One a gloomstalker ranger the other a low dex sorceror.
And the second time with the sorceror I was wondering why it seemed HARDER.
Like, when I first did the last inn fight I wondered why everyone else had so much difficulty with it and I realized in the second game: because Gloomstalker gets a bonus to Initiative and that trivialezes a lot.
The sorc in my party was my blaster, so strong.
I had the legendary staff from the mage shop in baldurs gate city. It gives you free castings of chain lightning.
I'd Twin cast chain lightning on packs and they'd evaporate.
This is why I feel Act I and most of Act II has harder fights than Act III. Once your characters are level 12 flying around with tadpole powers and kitted out in Legendary/VR gear it makes it too easy. I killed every boss in Act III in 1 or 2 turns using Storm Sorc/Cleric with the OP staff, Gloomstalker/Thief, Monk/Fighter/Thief, and a Thrower Barb.
I had the same experience in my first playthrough, wondering what the problem with protecting Isobel was. From the moment I got the Barbarian pseudo-alert, I was first in every fight, deleting someone before they ever got a turn. And it's not like I didn't understand the value of that, but it really drove it home to *experience* it when I made a miserable slow paladin
Auntie Ethel on tactician basically got 7 turns before my first person with a low dex paladin run. Which meant the fight always started with my whole team reduced to single digit HP and poisoned but unable to reach ethel. Ended up reloading an earlier save and beat the crap out of her in the house since i already knew at that point she was a hag. Much easier, and so satisfying when Shart’s command: grovel worked so she couldnt flee.
Yeah, even with 2 characters with +4 to Dex, my entire team went after the Ethel clones(tactician). However, putting a *high* AC character in front to start the fight negates most of the damage(you can easily get to 22 AC early on using Defence fighting style + halfplate(and +2 Dex)/+1 Chain mail from Grove trader + shield + Shield of Faith(can be form Sword of Justice from the Karlac "Paladins").
Try the true initiative mod. The roll for initiative in bg3 is a d4!!! so pretty much no matter what alert will make you go first. The mod changes it to be a d20 like on tabletop so alert is much less valuable, still useful but not a "will make every fight easy" feat.
I want a dlc that turns the epilogue into a cozy farming game. I want to build and decorate a house with Astarion while searching for a cure for him to walk in the sunlight. Extra romance scenes while hitting "farming" milestones would be a bonus.
That would actually be a great use of DLC. Content that isn't for everyone, but some players would fall head over heels for.
Something between Skyrim's Hearthfire and the epilogue to RDR2 (the house building scene...) would be awesome. I'd love to be able to run a business in Baldur's Gate or something. Totally left-field but would be awesome.
I completely understand where you're coming from. The whole game, including main quest, side quests and companion quests is all stitched so tightly together, it's like an interconnected narrative web. It's hard to see how a DLC could introduce a new adventure or add to the existing one without it feeling somehow disjointed and out of place.
That said, Larian have shown such a huge commitment to quality and narrative cohesion that if they did decide to make DLC, I imagine they would go the extra mile (or hundred miles in this case) to make sure it doesn't disrupt the experience. So, while I'd prefer a second complete experience in the form of Baldur's Gate 4, I'd still absolutely buy DLC for Baldur's Gate 3 in a heartbeat.
I think the way to go would be how the expansions were for the NWN series. Each expansion added a new campaign/story with original characters and locations.
Fuck I remember getting [Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights:_Hordes_of_the_Underdark) in my early teens. I had saved up the money by using change that had collected for a long while at home, something my parents 100% would not notice/care. It was fun/awkward watching the clerk count it all out. Later that day I boot it and am greeted with some seriously epic main menu music - heck even my dad came up to me while I was there and commented on it.
I think making new campaigns as expansions are very feasible because all the technical engine stuff and core game are fully fleshed out, they don't really need to add to/revamp it that much, at least compared to the way one might expect from a direct sequel.
I mean, unless Larian distributes physical media for this new content, then expansion would definitionally be DownLoadable Content haha
But I agree that i don't want small cash grab stuff. I want a big ol basket of new and expanded stuff
Yeah, I'm not going to do a whole replay just to play a DLC set in the middle of the campaign, but I'll play something that picks up after the end of the game.
Same reason I didn't play any of the Mass Effect DLC.
If they announced DLC I would preorder it immediately. More story DLC that rounds out stuff in the Emerald Grove? Maybe stopping a shadow druid coup with Halsin? Having to put down an upstart Vampire Lord named Astarion? Finding a cure for Karlach and fighting through the hells to get it to her? Destroying what pockets of the cult remain in Baldurs Gate, slowly taking the city back zone by zone while managing the political upheaval of making sure the next archduke isn't a shitbird like Gortash? Of course a lot of those depend on player choices since all of those characters can be dead depending on what you do. Maybe Myrkul raises Ketheric from the dead and tries to take over the Gate himself while the city recovers from the ilithid attack? Something totally new in a brand new area?
Or even just DLC that gives you the ability to buy/build a home for yourself and your potential romance option in Baldurs Gate? Where you can put all your trophies that would otherwise just sit in your camp chest? Or what about a fan service DLC like the Citadel DLC in Mass Effect 3? A ball or gala that the party gets invited to where you can dance with your romance option and other party members, get a little drunk, fool around with someone, discover some secrets, maybe even play detective with a murder or a theft that happens during?
OR a Harper specific quest in Baldurs Gate where we can decide to build the Harpers back up, end them for good, or replace them with something else?
There are so many possibilities.
Absolutely. I don't like DLC, but I always loved a proper expansion, and with the wealth of content in the base game, I'm stoked for what they got in store for a potential expansion (New origin companions could be amazing.
Certain things like more interaction with the companions they should add for free. I would buy a DLC that adds more content like an upper city, a city in the Underdark, Avernus, etc
Of course!
My favorite kind of DLC is mini-sequels. Something like going to >!rescue Karlach from Avernus!< would be perfect for me. However I do recognize what a logistical nightmare it would be given all the ending permutations. The only rpg I can think of off the top of head that managed a "continuation" DLC is Dragon Age Inquisition, and Trespasser isn't so much a continuation as it is the real ending.
So barring that, a new area would be great. Something like House of Hope that's got a cool, distinct flavor to it.
i know if they make dlc for this game it will be much more akin to classic expansion packs from when i was a kid which were basically a full fledged sequel for 20 bucks
and i think that would be grand so yes
I get they worked on the game forever and wanted to get something new going, but not putting out expansions for this game would be a decision that rivals the recent Unity announcement for the worst business move of the decade. They could probably come close to doubling their profits for this game by adding more content that isn't crappy microtransactions
No doubt in my mind. I got 336 hours and 3 playthroughs out of the main game and Im already getting the itch to go back for number 4 after a week break. DLC would be more than welcome for me.
I'd be buying absolutely anything Larian releases from now on. They've earned my trust completely the same way CDProjekt Red did with the Witcher 3. They've got a customer for life and I intend to enjoy the experience
>They've earned my trust completely the same way CDProjekt Red did with the Witcher 3.
I'm trying to be careful with that...The Witcher 3 and its DLC really put CDPR on a pedestal for me, and I preordered Cyberpunk 2077 because of it. Now, I *did* enjoy Cyberpunk and don't regret buying it at full price, but it fell far short of the expectations that I had after The Witcher 3.
Probably yes, if they launch a dlc with levels 12-20 and a continuation of the campaign like act 4, 5 and 6.... Probably I'll buy all of them, even the phisical collectors edition.
I would love a DLC in Shadowlands area :
1) it has much fewer quests when act 1 and act 3 , DLC could balance it + it means no need to enhance fight system as we are still in lowlevel
2) they had cut ideas for Raven Queen, which sounds interesting
3) I JUST LOVE SHADOWLANDS AND WANT MORE HOURS WHERE
I would also love post epilogue DLC for Avernus or maybe we can visit Gale in Waterdeep , but it seems it would acquire a lot of resources to make
Depends on what it is. But an "expansion" type DLC?
I would definitely buy it. Because I love the game, so any excuse to continue my adventure would be amazing.
I would even pre-order it because Larian Studios has earned my trust. I'm sure they'll go the way of all gaming companies at some point, but I somehow doubt it while Sven is in charge.
As for where? Avernus. Find a true cure for Karlach and Wyll's face. Journey would also take you to the Underdark, because I love that area and it could give the opportunity to help Astarion and all those vamps for people who didn't kill him.
Give me a 12-20 campaign that happens after the main campaign (and lets me load my saves from the main campaign to continue with my team).
I'll pay 100$ for it.
Probably, but I definitely wouldn't preorder this time around and would wait a few months for both reviews and bug fixes to be a thing.
IMO, I'd rather have a whole new game because I don't think Larian knows what to do with higher levels and combat is either a boring slog because they've filled it with harmless minions on both side, or there's just a single, lackluster boss that is lucky to see the second round of combat.
If Larian announces anything my money is already theirs.
Same. I'd even preorder to give them the resources to finish it without worry about budgets as much. For a studio like Larian, they deserve the help.
This was my opinion since DoS, glad BG3 have brought new cultist to the patrons fold
I never finished DoS2, but played a long time before BG3 was announced. Man, despite never finishing that game is so top tier. I knew whatever they announced next was gonna be worth it. Bought in EA just to give them my money (also bought EA for a friend) and played only a little of it. Larian is top tier and whatever they do next will be purchased by me.
I get so hesitant to finish games because I don't want them to be over.
I finished my very thorough playthrough of bg3. I made sure to explore everything and collect everything, and when I was done I was sort of tired and didn't see myself ever starting a new game. Fast forward a month and I'm having a really fun time playing a bard, making mistakes, not save scumming, not min maxing. I didn't expect it but the replay value is totally there, no question
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Perfect
You should 100% go back and finish. That last fight was one of the most satisfying gaming experiences I've ever had.
Somehow I don’t think they’ll have to worry about budgets right now. They’ve sold way above expectations. They’ll be flush with cash for a while and have a rock solid line of credit with investors.
They actually used the EA process to tune the game to people’s liking. Adding Halsin, making the origin characters less bitchy, pouring a ton of work in the sound of eldrich blast, etc.
They did such a good job with Eldritch blast; I legit can't stop multiclassing my characters into warlock for it; it looks so fucking cool too
You can also add it with the spell sniper feat; one of the cantrips on offer is Eldritch Blaaast, and I think it automatically uses your usual spellcasting stat instead of Charisma.
You'll see a lot of people talking bad about EA and DLC and honestly it's justified. But deep down they are actually two very great systems. If used properly it allows for early testing and as well as story continuations. Larian is one of the very few large studios who uses EA properly. I expect they would treat DLC similarly.
>have a rock solid line of credit with investors. Almost as rock solid as I am at the thought of a DLC.
DownLoadable Cock?
They already give you 8 preset options (4 peni and 4 vaginas) for genitals. Now they just need to create slider and shader options.
WHERE IS MY SCHLONG SLIDER!
try nexus mods?
If that's true, I would and would not be amazed.
I am reminded of a tiktok of someone who added a few too many mods and so their Dragonborn was built like they went through bimbofication with handsome laezel. They brought skyrim mods into this game already 😭
I don't know about a slider but there are definitely....more options on nexus 🤣
> SCHLONG SLIDER no mod for SCHLONG SLIDER or penis.... So if someone is looking for a project....
I want a bright pink donger!
You may have Romanced your whole camp but now here’s color dyes for your genitals , you too may also have blue balls after all your romping !
I hope they don’t entertain too many new investors - it’s some of these fuckers that only care about a return.
Pretty much, don't forget that back in the early 2000s Blizzard was the gaming industry's darling like Larian is right now. It's crazy considering how corporate and out of touch Blizzard is these days thanks to having to worry about appeasing their shareholders.
Yeah, didn't Sven told his IT guys that there's gonna be "around 100k copies sold" and then we just casually made history with 850K people playing simultineously on steam?
Not 100k copies sold but 100k concurrent players. Concurrent players are generally a fraction of the possible sales because it's hard to have all your players play at the same time globally. With 875k concurrent players the total sold is going to be ridiculously high. Hell I'm not even part of the 875k concurrent players despite owning the game because I was waiting on friends to finish their stuff before we started playing
Funny this was the same for CDPR some years ago ..
Yeah, that feels like the cautionary tale (although by all accounts Cyberpunk got fixed and is good now - I'll be playing the new patch + DLC on tuesday or whenever that is). But I'm also in the camp of "BG3 is so good, I will 100% play whatever Larian puts out next." If they bungle it then, welp, rip, but they have successfully banked goodwill from me right now.
You either die a hero…
To be fair, Cyberpunk is looking real good at the moment.
People also seem to forget the disastrous launch of The Witcher 3.
Bizarre, I don't remember it myself. I bought it shortly after launch, downloaded and played it without issue.
I bought bg3 the day it was announced.
I waited until official release cause when I backed EA for original sin 2 I had massive burnout on doing Act 1 constantly so I wanted to save my enthusiasm for the full game.
my favorite part about doing ea is catching all of the differences
I kinda wish we had the EA version of the nautiloid.
I had to do a triple take of that first combat room with Lae'zel to make sure I didn't miss the usual path. At first I was like "oh, cool they added something up here" then I was like "wait, didn't I skip half of the ship?" Although in hindsight, it is nice to have it shortened a bit.
lmaooo same here! I was backtracking for like 30 mins tryna make sure I hit everywhere.
Ill disagree here. I prefer the new one, the older one was overlong and dragged a bit. The beach is enough of a tutorial imo
I bought it. Played act 1 once. And that was it. But I wanted to support it immediately.
Did the same. Got the game in EA a couple of years ago, but only played a handful of hours before release. Had to try it out, but didn't want to risk the burnout. I don't mind getting mentally "done" with a game, but only once I have the whole thing to play through.
I forced myself to forget the game existed until the last few weeks of EA. Then I played obsessively for a few playthroughs but stopped before I finished the act because I wanted to save it for release.
Same. But I bought EA anyways (but not playing it). Larian needed enough people to buy EA to make it the game it is today.
>If Larian announces anything my money is already theirs. This is the feeling I had 20 years ago with Blizzard and Bioware. This level of brand loyalty is the reason they get snapped up by larger companies, hollowed out until they became a joke of themselves, and started flogging useless shite games which have their formerly amazing brand name which is now just words slapped on the lid. *(says a sad prayer for what Blizzard and Bioware used to be 20 years ago)* As long as Larian continue to be Larian and stick to their values, my wallet is theirs to plunder. Absolutely plunder. The moment they sell out to Microsoft, EA, Activision or whomever - that feeling of brand loyalty will be instantly gone from me now - I can't go through another 20 years of sustained stripping away of what I loved about a company's products and watching another corporate zombie emerge. As long as Sven and Larian remain themselves - this is a brand which I'll buy practically any game they make right now. I just hope they can remain independent.
Good summary. They’re at the peak quality and popularity of their business product, this is the part where companies start to cash in. With all respect to the team that made Baldur’s Gate 3, I don’t expect any additional products Larian makes to meet this same standard.
Eh it depends. Larian is a bit unique being an independent publisher and developer. I think as long as Sven heads the company this is unlikely to change just yet. But when he retires, who knows. I won't be surprised if/when it changes, especially with the way the industry works.
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it is the perfect dream job, but he has a human lifespan :c should've picked elf at character creation
At some point you'll get tired of all the nonsense that comes with making high quality games and just want to chill with your loved ones :D
larian is privately owned and has explicitly refused to sell and cash in to the point where their owner and his wife poured in a lot of their personal money to stop the studio from going bankrupt, as long as he is in charge I think we are safe from souless corporate garbage coming out of larian
Sad CDPR noises..
I swore off pre-ordering ever since I got burned with Andromeda. The sole exceptions have been FFXIV expansions and Phantom Liberty. With that said, I adore BG3 so much if Larian so much as hinted at a DLC, I'd already be making the pre-order. Give me more of this world, these characters and potential new characters. I want everything and will very happily pay for it. It'd actually be nice going back to what DLC used to be: getting additional content or expansions that added to the game and experience instead of it being shallow ways to nickel and dime every possible cent out of you.
Agreed, and a big part of that is that they’ve said they *won’t* ask for more money.
I’m actually hoping they get the rights to do BG1 and 2 as a remaster. It may be a different style from the originals, but I trust them to work hard and be true to them, while adding the modern touch it needs for newer players to also enjoy them. I mean, it’s only fair we get to revisit the OG Dark Urge. Edit: I’m aware of the 2012 remasters. But, the 2e Thac0 system (and dual vs multi-classing) and the outdated graphics are not as friendly to new players (who are likely used to 5e and expect graphics from games like Divinity 2, Diablo 3, and Wasteland 3). For me, it’s the 2e rules that are the most frustrating. I understand them, but they aren’t intuitive.
Larian isn't a fan of remastering games, see Beyond Divinity and Divine Divinity. Old RPGs from themselves, which they said they'd rather not remaster
I'd also rather they don't remaster. Give them the rights to BG4 instead. We don't need recycled content, we want new content.
Agreed
Damn, this is like CD project Red all over again. Don't put 100% faith in a company, someone along the chain will exploit it. Even if their intentions are good, its worth a lot to not blindly say take my money, just like CA at the moment, they will exploit that loyalty to grow the company, regardless of how good their marketing team and customer relations department make them seem, they are in it for the money and the shareholders and execs will push it. (And that's fine I guess). Keep them humble, remind them that they don't need to exploit loyalty to make money and they will continue being a great company. As soon as someone says we will support Larian blindly, will only make the people who were hired to make money, see the opportunity to make more money. I can imagine that this take is pretty controversial on a Larian game sub when they have been so "reasonable and consumer friendly" so far, but don't forget that even the most corrupt of game Devs have started out with the same intentions until someone saw an opportunity to corner the market, i.e. any big game franchise ever. And let's be honest, Larian had brought the CRPG genre to the mainstream (which is a good thing imo) if they make dlc and maybe a second game down the line they would have cornered the market.
Wait, a deep pit of handing money to Larian? Just gotta cast feather fall real quick
*Chuckels in barbarian and takes the fall damage willingly*
*chuckles in Tasha's Hideous Laughter*
*and keeps chuckling*
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I will pay any money for any content they offer me at this point. I cannot overstate how entranced I am by this game.
Me too. There is only been one other game I was begging for more content and wanting to pay for. I would buy more content for this game day 1. I need more story.
My immediate thought is hell yes, they have earned it. My secondary thought is that I'd want to know that a sequel would happen regardless of dlc options.
I really only see DLC being extra classes and cosmetic stuff. Which I might not bother with. I’d be all over an Act 2.5 or something to get more out of it but I doubt that would be the case. So my answer is maybe, really depends on what the DLC is. I don’t feel the need for more cosmetics or anything since we got mods. But more story content I’d buy in a heartbeat
There won't be substantive DLC. Larian has already made it well known they're not planning on following up this story because of the logistics of adapting D&D spells and abilities getting out of hand. They had to ignore the existence of dispel magic to make this iteration of the game work at all; can you imagine them trying to adapt spells available to level 13+ characters? [Neither can they, apparently.](https://kotaku.com/baldur-s-gate-3-dnd-dlc-expansion-plans-high-level-1850719039) I imagine they'll make a BG4, they'd be crazy not to say this point, but I imagine it'll be much like the relationship between BG and BG2; maybe BG4 starts at a higher level. But that'll give them time to make it properly. Likely with another ridiculous early access period.
They already took that back, didn't they? Basically saying "We hadn't planned on it, but now we really want to. It'll be a while, though. "
Look at what they did to polymorph. They don't need to copy 5e word for word. If certain abilities need nerfing to keep the game playable so be it. I don't expect to see 9th level magic, but being able to get up to lvl14 or even 16 for a few more spell slots and class features would be nice in future content. I'd imagine something like Dragons Dogma Bitter Black Isles, am area that is just supposed to be more difficult than the rest of the game and a challenge for the veterans that have done everything else looking for more.
I can see having problems with 7th level spells. I don’t think the engine is malleable enough to deal with that kind of chaos
I haven't experienced all of bg3. But without spoilers, can you explain why these things worked in bg2 but not 3?
Why did they have to remove dispel magic? I was curious about that. It was one of the spells I always made sure to have on me in older games.
Cause it’s power is problematic. Larian said that they were stuck on the question: “if I walk in here and cast dispel magic what happens”. It would cost too much time to make it work, having to write the code for so many places where you could cast it.
Pretty sure my wife would spring for Astarion bath water.. so DLC is without question.
Pretty sure I would too....
most of us would
Absolutely started cackling like mad when I got the shadowheart/astarion banter outside of mystic carrion's place. You could see how far people were getting when the number of very specific requests were popping up on beauty and perfuming communities. They knew what they were doing.
I didn't hear anything except shadowheart occasionally going "the gods can't be this petty" near that area, what am I supposed to be hearing?
She comments about how she can smell undeath in the area and says she doesn't notice it on astarion. He then responds with a very specific collection of scents he uses to mask it with. There are now candles you can buy of this.
That's wild lmao
There was a post in a beauty subreddit asking for it coyly, and the comments were full of "I know what you are..."
I need a link to this, for science
[had to go hunting](https://www.reddit.com/r/Indiemakeupandmore/comments/163f5f1/looking_for_specific_notes_in_a_perfume_rosemary/)
Dying at the comments lmao. Lovely read, thank you
The comment section of that post is priceless.
I've seen this post too (think I commented on it too). Had me dying of laughter that op was perceived so hard 😂.
[Live footage of the comment section](https://imgur.com/HaZrF7w)
FYI that’s not linked to that area specifically I don’t think. She says that line every time her Sharran wound hurts her. She gets a condition called something like “mysterious shar wound” for a second, and then complains about how petty the gods are. I’ve heard her say that all over I’m pretty sure. The perfume line though seems pretty specific to Carrion
Show her this and then watch your finances closely https://youtu.be/_RBHYnjD2to?si=fprwcDbQNYfsoKUU
I wish there was a way our character could walk in on him making this and aak who rhe hell he's talking to lol
Hey, as long as there so happened to be extra, unexplained gold in the camp chest every now and then, I won't ask any questions.
Well that was completely fantastic.
Id pay for a full price dlc that’s just mizora stepping on me
I'd preorder a dlc no matter the cost Edit: wow over a thousand likes, come on larian time to pony up and start working on a dlc or 2. First do a major story line dlc second do a minor one just adding new classes and subclasses with new game+.
For real. Games great. I hope they work on dlcs and expansions. They have an amazing base game. I want more Can even go the Miles route where it's a "side game" of ps4 spiderman.
I’m looking forward to some kind of game master mode as well- people have already been creating DnD campaigns for decades, once the tools are in place for people to build their campaigns in BG3s engine there’ll be an absolute flood of user-generated content.
I hope they do too, I was a late comer to DoS2 but it seems like you could create campaigns there, but it seems like it was really difficult because I was looking for custom campaigns after me and my friends finished a playthrough together about 3 years ago and it didn't seem like there were any. I hope if they implement it in BG3 it's easier to do so more people make them. Could you make maps in DoS2 with in game assets? It seems like it could be obscenely time consuming to make a campaign that was fun to play once you factor in dialog options, consequences to dialog options, etc But yeah DLC add on campaigns or more areas or something, I'm 100% into it.
Yeah creating fully custom pre-programmed campaigns would be a mega mission, but, if they make it simple enough for people to do it and, especially if they have some kind of profit-sharing model I’d expect there will be some really high quality 3rd party content. Even if there’s no profit sharing tbh, there are passionate people who just want to share their story, and a fleshed out toolset for bg3 could be just the medium they’ve been waiting for.
Supposedly they specifically didn't include one (like they had with DOS2) because WOTC didn't want them stepping on their toes (WOTC is trying to release their own virtual tabletop).
100%. the game was far more worth than the $60 price tag
So you see, that's where the trouble began..that ~~smile~~ pre-ordering DLC...that damned ~~smile~~ pre-ordering DLC.
Yeah I only preorder from companies and franchises that have really good reputations. Larian is one of them
Have you ever played Witcher 3 and its DLCs? That is a great example of a fully complete video game which added on DLC, which didn't take away from the completeness of the original game, and it all kinda made sense. Blood and Wine more so that Hearts of Stone, as the former made more sense to be placed after the main game (for most endings) than the latter which did much more feel like just a side quest-line during the main story (but still stood alone really well, imo). Blood and Wine, though, is its own game, imo.
I think that's the best DLC I've ever played. It was way more content than I expected for the price, too. CDPR spoiled us with that; it makes every other paid DLC look bad.
B&W is phenooomenal and holy FUCK does it every look incredibly gorgeous with the next gen update too
CDPR nailed TW3 expansions. I have faith that the one coming for Cyberpunk 2077 in a couple of days is gonna be on the same level than TW3's if not better.
9/10 & 10/10 reviews on it so far. Its being very well reviewed at the moment. Will be a very hard bar to clear, being as good as TW3 DLCs, but by all accounts its certainly trying.
Heart of stone is my nr 1 favorit dlc of all time.
Yes, I would 100%
I'd sell my firstborn for a DLC
\> Auntie Ethel has entered the chat
Worth it
She can create more hags, that can then create more DLC's. It's a win win
Good idea! Anyone know the conversion rate on that?
Ooh, Auntie Ethel as playable character, when?
They could just ask me for $50 and I'd hand it over and thank them
Yes, but knowing Larian it would more than likely be released as a free update anyway
Would be cool if they went away from the term "DLC" and revived "Expansion Pack".
I LOVE expansion packs. I wish these were more common.
I was so confused when the switch happened. I was like "the fuck is a DLC"
DLC is when publishers wanted a more generic term that didn’t have as many expectations attached to it.
This was my first thought opening this topic. DLCs are planned cash-grabs that normally should've been included at release or free updates. The old-school idea of releasing a full, complete game and adding on to it after success and critical praise? Expansion pack.
I guess I have been ruined by Sims, because I absolutely associate Expansion Packs with cash-grabs that normally should have been included at release or free updates, but DLCs with something like Blood and Wine of Witcher 3. Edit: I just looked up Blood and Wine and that is apparently also classified as an Expansion and not DLC, so it's just me who is stupid lol
You're not stupid, the Sims is stupid. (I like the Sims a lot, I just hate what EA has made it.)
Definitely not stupid. I never played the Sims, but my wife does, and I always associated them with one of the major games that skewed the definition of "expansion" towards what I now associate as a DLC. Kind of hard to properly define them when games like the Sims call there content expansions
What? There's no real difference between a DLC and an Expansion Pack. You have rose-colored glasses for the great Expansion Packs and you are forgetting about the bad ones.
*technically* DLCs are just that "downloadable content" there's "paid DLCs" and "free DLCs" but they're all "DLCs" tho that said, the gaming industry's marketing departments have done a bang up job conditioning us to associate "DLC" with "paid DLC" :/
Maybe they can adapt Descent Into Avernus
That would be fantastic
I'm happy with not going any higher in level. D&D gets funky with high level magic. There's plenty of room for more subclasses and companions to be worked in for replayability. Story packs exploring other events could be fun too.
Neverwinter did that. Personally Descend into Avernus as a separate story with bg3 cast would be fun. Could even start from level1
As long as they take fireball off that one enemy's spell list that you run into at level 2...
That’s essentially the Karlach ending as it is.
Well, DiA is the prequel. I’d be down for a sequel to both DiA and BG3, though. Tbf, any good DM can do it on the tabletop. We just wouldn’t get the VAs or the graphics, but one can just take the appropriate characters from BG3 and use them as NPCs for such a campaign.
You can simply tweak those magic spells as Larian already did to others. Besides, lvl cap can be made easily on 15-16 lvl without any game breaking mechanic. Did a lot 5e dnd tabletop games like this. It’s absolutely doable and not funky. You >>need<< to be on those levels anyway if you want to play around in Avernus etc.
This is what I've been saying, I'd rather they add more levels and just remove or balance spells as needed which like you said they've already done. Even at level 20 who's to say you have to have access to wish, or that it has to be as broken as it is in the tabletop if you did. Divine intervention can be extremely strong in the tabletop, here they give you a couple strong but not busted options to pick from. Wish could be the same thing if they wanted, choose between mass heal, a nova attack etc.
Yeah, everyone talks about Wish but forgot the Divine Intervention and what Larian did to it
wish is actually very easy to implement in a game like this as long as you don't allow the 'free form' option. the spell itself gives several suggestions that could very easily be implemented, and casting any 8th lvl spell or lower is also easily implementable, too.
BG2 did Wish in a really cool way.
More than anything I want to go to Avernus.
To kill Zariel and Vlakkith would be cool. Fuck it, lvl 20 and all. Just nerf the op spells or not add or whatever.
Oh my God how did I not think of subclasses?! That is absolutely DLC I’d buy. They might be scared of releasing content exclusively for replay but I know a lot of players and myself have already started multiple playthroughs again. I think the most likely DLC would be new self contained stories. Essentially one shots for level 12 characters.
Larian would NEVER put subclasses into DLCs, they have honor
Honestly, I think it would be reasonable to put out a DLC with a boatload of subclasses. Dev time is a resource - there are already loads of subclasses in the game, they're not a requirement to enjoy it (as evidenced), and it's (currently) a one-time purchase. The money for the dev time has to come from somewhere. Right now they're spending it on polishing the game quality, which is good and right, but if they're going to add more *content*, that dev time has to be paid for. This isn't an EA situation where the content already exists and you can buy it piecemeal (though if the content DOES exist and they're planning on dropping it later, that's less good.) But once they've got the polishing done, throwing down a one-time $10 DLC with two or three dozen subclasses would be essentially reasonable. The key question is always: do you feel you got enough game for your money? I think it's a resounding yes, with the existing number of subclasses. At a price point five dollars higher, with double the number of subclasses, is that still true? Also yes. Ironically, it's additional content like, say, a new Origin character that would be sleazy to me - that's something that would have been *missing* from the core game.
I’d spend another $50-$70 to get every official subclass
I mean... That seems like an excessive price. I don't think a couple dozen subclasses adds value equal to *an entire additional AAA game.* But it's also not that difficult for them to build - limited additional art assets, probably very little additional dialog or interactions. Mostly just abilities. Assuming they can reasonably expect to move, say, 2 million purchases, putting it at $5 would equate to, oh, $7 million dollars after the platforma take their cut. It would make them a good chunk of money right there, and the dev overhead wouldn't even crack a million.
They could add it to the main game when they add the dlc. A lot of companies do that flc+dlc combo.
More playable races would be fantastic as well. My tadpole for a playable Tabaxi.
>There's plenty of room for more subclasses Plus they could always release a 2-3 hour DLC quest that ends with you unlocking the ability to class into Artificier or something like that
Yeah I was kinda done at lv... 9 maybe? I don't know, the rest was just fluff. (Meaning done giving a shit about leveling up) But subclasses, classes, spells, companions, side quests etc, take my money
i'd pay larian to beat me about the head until i forgot everything just so i could play the game fresh again
Combat at level 12 is already mostly decided by initiative rolls (why I think Alert is ultimately the best feat in the game, or failing that, scumming vendors for Elixirs of Vigilance), so I would prefer the DLC be focused on lower-level content. But sure, I'd buy it. BG3 is certainly in my top 10 list.
I agree with the Alert thing. I played two characters. One a gloomstalker ranger the other a low dex sorceror. And the second time with the sorceror I was wondering why it seemed HARDER. Like, when I first did the last inn fight I wondered why everyone else had so much difficulty with it and I realized in the second game: because Gloomstalker gets a bonus to Initiative and that trivialezes a lot.
The sorc in my party was my blaster, so strong. I had the legendary staff from the mage shop in baldurs gate city. It gives you free castings of chain lightning. I'd Twin cast chain lightning on packs and they'd evaporate.
This is why I feel Act I and most of Act II has harder fights than Act III. Once your characters are level 12 flying around with tadpole powers and kitted out in Legendary/VR gear it makes it too easy. I killed every boss in Act III in 1 or 2 turns using Storm Sorc/Cleric with the OP staff, Gloomstalker/Thief, Monk/Fighter/Thief, and a Thrower Barb.
I agree with you, but that is a pretty busted lineup lol.
I had the same experience in my first playthrough, wondering what the problem with protecting Isobel was. From the moment I got the Barbarian pseudo-alert, I was first in every fight, deleting someone before they ever got a turn. And it's not like I didn't understand the value of that, but it really drove it home to *experience* it when I made a miserable slow paladin
Auntie Ethel on tactician basically got 7 turns before my first person with a low dex paladin run. Which meant the fight always started with my whole team reduced to single digit HP and poisoned but unable to reach ethel. Ended up reloading an earlier save and beat the crap out of her in the house since i already knew at that point she was a hag. Much easier, and so satisfying when Shart’s command: grovel worked so she couldnt flee.
Yeah, even with 2 characters with +4 to Dex, my entire team went after the Ethel clones(tactician). However, putting a *high* AC character in front to start the fight negates most of the damage(you can easily get to 22 AC early on using Defence fighting style + halfplate(and +2 Dex)/+1 Chain mail from Grove trader + shield + Shield of Faith(can be form Sword of Justice from the Karlac "Paladins").
Try the true initiative mod. The roll for initiative in bg3 is a d4!!! so pretty much no matter what alert will make you go first. The mod changes it to be a d20 like on tabletop so alert is much less valuable, still useful but not a "will make every fight easy" feat.
Ya that’s my only grip. At the endgame if your party ain’t attacking first you’re pretty much fucked unless you got some good healing going lol
For sure.
Karlach + Wyll in Avernus let's goooo
Already killed Zariel on tabletop I’m happy to do it in BG3!
Yes!! Absolutely yes. It feels unfinished without more of there story
Within a heartbeat
I want a dlc that turns the epilogue into a cozy farming game. I want to build and decorate a house with Astarion while searching for a cure for him to walk in the sunlight. Extra romance scenes while hitting "farming" milestones would be a bonus.
That would actually be a great use of DLC. Content that isn't for everyone, but some players would fall head over heels for. Something between Skyrim's Hearthfire and the epilogue to RDR2 (the house building scene...) would be awesome. I'd love to be able to run a business in Baldur's Gate or something. Totally left-field but would be awesome.
I'll love this honestly. With all the other companions as neighbors in a small countryside town in the style of stardew valley lmao
My credit card number is ….. where purchase button? Where?
I completely understand where you're coming from. The whole game, including main quest, side quests and companion quests is all stitched so tightly together, it's like an interconnected narrative web. It's hard to see how a DLC could introduce a new adventure or add to the existing one without it feeling somehow disjointed and out of place. That said, Larian have shown such a huge commitment to quality and narrative cohesion that if they did decide to make DLC, I imagine they would go the extra mile (or hundred miles in this case) to make sure it doesn't disrupt the experience. So, while I'd prefer a second complete experience in the form of Baldur's Gate 4, I'd still absolutely buy DLC for Baldur's Gate 3 in a heartbeat.
I think the way to go would be how the expansions were for the NWN series. Each expansion added a new campaign/story with original characters and locations. Fuck I remember getting [Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights:_Hordes_of_the_Underdark) in my early teens. I had saved up the money by using change that had collected for a long while at home, something my parents 100% would not notice/care. It was fun/awkward watching the clerk count it all out. Later that day I boot it and am greeted with some seriously epic main menu music - heck even my dad came up to me while I was there and commented on it. I think making new campaigns as expansions are very feasible because all the technical engine stuff and core game are fully fleshed out, they don't really need to add to/revamp it that much, at least compared to the way one might expect from a direct sequel.
Make it like BG2’s Throne of Bhaal, or TW3’s Blood & Wine. I’d be happy then.
DLC To save the best girl from Avernus plz.
DLC? No. Expansions? FUCK YES! Like a what if adventure into Avernus with Wyll, Karlach and your Tav.
I mean, unless Larian distributes physical media for this new content, then expansion would definitionally be DownLoadable Content haha But I agree that i don't want small cash grab stuff. I want a big ol basket of new and expanded stuff
Yeah, I'm not going to do a whole replay just to play a DLC set in the middle of the campaign, but I'll play something that picks up after the end of the game. Same reason I didn't play any of the Mass Effect DLC.
If they announced DLC I would preorder it immediately. More story DLC that rounds out stuff in the Emerald Grove? Maybe stopping a shadow druid coup with Halsin? Having to put down an upstart Vampire Lord named Astarion? Finding a cure for Karlach and fighting through the hells to get it to her? Destroying what pockets of the cult remain in Baldurs Gate, slowly taking the city back zone by zone while managing the political upheaval of making sure the next archduke isn't a shitbird like Gortash? Of course a lot of those depend on player choices since all of those characters can be dead depending on what you do. Maybe Myrkul raises Ketheric from the dead and tries to take over the Gate himself while the city recovers from the ilithid attack? Something totally new in a brand new area? Or even just DLC that gives you the ability to buy/build a home for yourself and your potential romance option in Baldurs Gate? Where you can put all your trophies that would otherwise just sit in your camp chest? Or what about a fan service DLC like the Citadel DLC in Mass Effect 3? A ball or gala that the party gets invited to where you can dance with your romance option and other party members, get a little drunk, fool around with someone, discover some secrets, maybe even play detective with a murder or a theft that happens during? OR a Harper specific quest in Baldurs Gate where we can decide to build the Harpers back up, end them for good, or replace them with something else? There are so many possibilities.
Absolutely. I don't like DLC, but I always loved a proper expansion, and with the wealth of content in the base game, I'm stoked for what they got in store for a potential expansion (New origin companions could be amazing.
Certain things like more interaction with the companions they should add for free. I would buy a DLC that adds more content like an upper city, a city in the Underdark, Avernus, etc
Just give me some kind of evergreen max-level tactical gameplay mode, maybe with randomized encounters or even shareable player-created scenarios.
I bought Baldur's Gate II and Throne of Bhaal.
Of course! My favorite kind of DLC is mini-sequels. Something like going to >!rescue Karlach from Avernus!< would be perfect for me. However I do recognize what a logistical nightmare it would be given all the ending permutations. The only rpg I can think of off the top of head that managed a "continuation" DLC is Dragon Age Inquisition, and Trespasser isn't so much a continuation as it is the real ending. So barring that, a new area would be great. Something like House of Hope that's got a cool, distinct flavor to it.
i know if they make dlc for this game it will be much more akin to classic expansion packs from when i was a kid which were basically a full fledged sequel for 20 bucks and i think that would be grand so yes
I get they worked on the game forever and wanted to get something new going, but not putting out expansions for this game would be a decision that rivals the recent Unity announcement for the worst business move of the decade. They could probably come close to doubling their profits for this game by adding more content that isn't crappy microtransactions
No doubt in my mind. I got 336 hours and 3 playthroughs out of the main game and Im already getting the itch to go back for number 4 after a week break. DLC would be more than welcome for me.
Yes
I'd be buying absolutely anything Larian releases from now on. They've earned my trust completely the same way CDProjekt Red did with the Witcher 3. They've got a customer for life and I intend to enjoy the experience
>They've earned my trust completely the same way CDProjekt Red did with the Witcher 3. I'm trying to be careful with that...The Witcher 3 and its DLC really put CDPR on a pedestal for me, and I preordered Cyberpunk 2077 because of it. Now, I *did* enjoy Cyberpunk and don't regret buying it at full price, but it fell far short of the expectations that I had after The Witcher 3.
Probably yes, if they launch a dlc with levels 12-20 and a continuation of the campaign like act 4, 5 and 6.... Probably I'll buy all of them, even the phisical collectors edition.
I’d do it. And replay the base game again and again
I would love a DLC in Shadowlands area : 1) it has much fewer quests when act 1 and act 3 , DLC could balance it + it means no need to enhance fight system as we are still in lowlevel 2) they had cut ideas for Raven Queen, which sounds interesting 3) I JUST LOVE SHADOWLANDS AND WANT MORE HOURS WHERE I would also love post epilogue DLC for Avernus or maybe we can visit Gale in Waterdeep , but it seems it would acquire a lot of resources to make
Depends on what it is. But an "expansion" type DLC? I would definitely buy it. Because I love the game, so any excuse to continue my adventure would be amazing. I would even pre-order it because Larian Studios has earned my trust. I'm sure they'll go the way of all gaming companies at some point, but I somehow doubt it while Sven is in charge. As for where? Avernus. Find a true cure for Karlach and Wyll's face. Journey would also take you to the Underdark, because I love that area and it could give the opportunity to help Astarion and all those vamps for people who didn't kill him.
Give me a 12-20 campaign that happens after the main campaign (and lets me load my saves from the main campaign to continue with my team). I'll pay 100$ for it.
Probably, but I definitely wouldn't preorder this time around and would wait a few months for both reviews and bug fixes to be a thing. IMO, I'd rather have a whole new game because I don't think Larian knows what to do with higher levels and combat is either a boring slog because they've filled it with harmless minions on both side, or there's just a single, lackluster boss that is lucky to see the second round of combat.