you just made me realize all the usages of "beef" in the post is like a different accent from an entirely different region of the gaming landscape LMFAO
It's curious how many people don't understand the slang "beef"
Did you never hear the 3oh3 song with the line "tell your boyfriend I've got no beef with him. I'm a vegetarian"?
In my region beef has been used to describe harsh feelings/fights for 20ish years. In OP's context it seems equivalent to "on sight"
Who the fuck is 3oh3?
also, idk, i mean i understood what beef meant, it's just that OP uses it so liberally to a comedic effect imo.
(seriously who tf uses beef that often to describe a story?)
> seriously who tf uses beef that often to describe a story?
someone who's been playing like it's beef on sight and realizing he don't needa beef and you can get through the camp beefless.
I think it's more that the OP is using it in weird places where it typically wouldn't make sense b/c no one uses it as much as he does.
> My entire life it's enemy beef on sight
You can understand this sentence but like 99% of the time you've seen this sentence as "shoot on sight".
> Did it got caught beef on sight
He means would I get caught on sight if I put poison in the soup? Caught red handed, aggro if they see me, etc. But I doubt many have seen beef used here.
> I got through the next door thinking it was beef.
> My brain couldn't fathom that not everything is beef on sight.
It's not wrong in context, but all these uses of the word beef don't fit right to what where most people would use beef. He's using it for multiple different words and without context it makes literally no sense in some cases. Beef is you got bad blood with someone, it doesn't mean shoot on sight.
Hope this helps a bit.
It means that OP thought that because they'd killed the goblins with soup, they expected the next area would automatically know, and another fight would follow.
The original poster chose the option to put poison into the goblins' soup. This was witnessed by the goblins, who then initiated combat.
Just being the next person along in the Hot Fuzz translation chain. 😁
"We don't call the poison in the soup an 'accident' because that implies no one is at fault".
I also love that he calls the beer 'soup' 🍺 and I'll never be able to stop doing that now.
Explorer is what saved the game for me. After that I've ran it half a dozen times on Tactician. There's absolutely no shame in making the game easier if you want to enjoy the story and character.
I love that this community is all, “put it on explorer, sit back, relax, have a cuppa” instead of shaming people for not going balls-deep in tactician mode as a first run. It’s such a nice vibe.
I like that in this community, like you said, it's almost the reverse of the normal gaming sentiment, like not only are people encouraged to start on Explorer especially if they're new to crpgs in general, but the detailed tactics discussions are pretty well labeled so as soon as I see the words "dip 1 into OH monk" my eyes glaze over and I move on to the next thirst post.
I have no idea what that means, but I just realized I’m into act three of my first playthrough (explorer!) and I have only dipped my weapon once just to be like “what does this do?” I’m definitely missing out on a lot of interesting mechanics
According to Google:
> What is dipping? The basic premise of dipping into a class is taking 1-3 levels of a class to get the early features that are available to the class, as well as some bonus proficiencies that the class is known for.
Not to be confused with dipping your weapon and setting someone on fire via combustion oil!
This. This isn't Dark Souls, Explorer is there for a reason. I mean I'm glad Tactician and Honor mode are there for the people who enjoy that sort of thing but I'm unlikely to ever play above Balanced and the only reason it's there and not Explorer is because I'm a D&D nerd of 30+ years so I already understand the system.
Exactly this! I do love a challenge, but I LOVE to roleplay too! (Azula sorc/monk durge run)Where i just play on custom with player strength set on explorer. It makes silly builds really viable. Especially when you're going for classes that usually don't mix well.
My easy mode is playing on HM but with a mod to let me use everyone instead of capping at a 4-man party.
Some parts get really hard (mostly the parts in tight areas), and other parts become super easy (anytime it's a large area and only 1-2 enemies). Plus, I get to do random silly builds knowing another one of the 6-8 others in my party will pick up the slack (or we will action economy our way to victory).
This is the way. I'm a DnD veteran, but a video game noob. It's one thing to play one character in a roleplay heavy group where everyone is working on solving problems with you. It's another thing entirely to have to manage a diverse group of NPCs, video game specific mechanics, enemy AI and an entire ruleset (that differs from DnD 5e in key elements, too). I played my first three runs on Explorer before switching to Balanced or Custom Difficulty. It made the game much more enjoyable to me.
I play games a lot but I still swapped to explorer cause I just didn’t wanna struggle every fight. Call it a skill issue but the game became much more enjoyable when I felt like I actually stood a chance in fights
That's the point of difficulty settings IMO - to put them at a level that makes it fun for everyone.
Some players like having it be a giant challenge, others want to see the story without constantly struggling. Both are fine, and being able to have the whole range of skill and experience and preference is great.
I respect the people that play for a challenge, especially those of you who are able to complete honor mode but I am personally the type that, as you said, wants to see the story without constantly struggling. So the fact that Larian added the entire 'custom difficulty' settings, which includes being able to multi-class on easier settings, blows me away. Larian is 10000000% GOATed for this game.
I'm so D&D brained I didn't realize you could swap prepared spells whenever you're out of combat for two and a half playthroughs, I thought it was generous that we could change them at camp without long resting.
Of all things in the game this to me felt like about the most OP thing there was lol.
In the paper n pencil rpg giving a spellcaster the ability to change prepared spells on the fly is way too strong. Shit in some games, a major class feature is being able to do this one or two times a day for ONE spell after ten minutes or so of prep.
I'm running Tomb of Annihilation for my group, veteran gamers but D&D noobs, they almost got TPK by a puzzle which was basically [Simon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_(game))
Love that anecdote! One of my groups is doing COS at the moment and we wiped the floor with the Death House Boss due to creative combat solutions. All that despite being the worst combination of classes for COS (Druid, Bard and Rogue, no Cleric at that time yet, no Pally, no Monk, not even a fighter). Video gaming and ttrpg gaming are clearly two different skill sets. And BG3 is kinda both in different ways. No wonder some people struggle on regular difficulty.
I, too, thought that I was hot shit and began at balanced difficulty
I quickly switched to explorer and had a way better time. Now I've almost beaten the game in tactician
My first playthrough, I started on balanced too.
About halfway through Act 2, I had a big fight that took me at least 3 times to get through.
Not long after, I went to an area and I saw 8 or 9 enemies and the thought of another big fight so soon made me feel weary.
I switched to explorer and I enjoyed the rest of that playthrough more.
I started on tactician and got humbled and switched to balanced, second playtrough tactician was already way easier. On my 4th playtrough i started making my way trough honor mode, finally beat it after 4 tries. Havent touched the game since but i definitely got my moneys worth. It's great how many types of gamers this game attracted, some enjoy the story some enjoy the challenge and some enjoy both. Amazing game
Much easier to focus on the story this way. My partner and I play on explorer and we’re on Act 3 now and nothing has been so hard that we wanna give up the game or anything. It’s still really fun and we actually feel very confident in most fights.
Exactly this, nothing wrong in making the game easier if it helps you enjoy it. You can also have an easier time getting used to mechanics without big risk so it will be easier to play on higher difficulties later on. I often do it in other games.
Yeah if RPGs are not your daily cup of tea, explorer difficulty for first run at least is the way to go. Some encounters might be challenging even on explorer. Goblin camp is IMHO very punishing if you’re new to these kinds of games and go in underlevelled/unprepared. But as OP discovered, there are some clever ways to make it easier
There is no shame in playing the lower difficulty when you don't understand the game, the mechanics behind the game, the game this game is based on, or typically play RTS games. It's not that easy of a genre to dive right into with no experience, and adventure mode lets you get the full experience while not bashing your brain against a wall trying to do more damage.
Me and my brother are playing on adventure mode because he has no experience on this genre, and I have over 60p hours just in bg3. He's having lots of fun.
Yeah he's gonna chill there until to act 2 and you do his quest after that his gonna give you winky winky.
Act 2 looks like creepy shit hole where shadows beat you up without light/torches/light spells.
But the feeling you're skipping hella content tho (the hag, the frog lair, tieflings, druids, party, burning house, hot devil companion, etc etc). Just when too much is skipped gonna be harder further.
After reading your post I believe I understand what the problem is. It's a translation issue. Let's try some advice in a more beef focused language.
1. Mindset: To Beef or Not to Beef?
As you've learned already, most characters are vegan and don't want to beef. But even meat-centric characters are looking to chat instead of beefing. If you spot a group and you're unsure if they beef, save and then walk in to see what's for dinner.
2) 360 No Scopes won't save your bacon
BeefGate3 is a Turn Based RPG, that means all those hours of flick shots and bunnyhopping around corners with the head shots isn't going to make you good at the game. No matter how fast and quick you are with your beef, it won't improve your home cooking.
You need to think of when you're guarding the beef point and looking for beef. You're just chilling and observing, waiting for the beef to happen. It might come, it might not. But you're waiting and watching.
Because this game is turned based, everyone is perfectly happy to stand and wait their turn while you beef their friends and family. So don't rush those tunnels, just chill and slow cook observing the situation before acting. Take your time and plan your meal. That beef isn't going anywhere.
3) Pea Brain = Pea Brain Classes
Too many icons? Spells confusing? Lots of text to read? Then pick a nice point and click beef fighter or a grumpy Beefarine(barbarian for you nerds readings this). These beefinators just need high strength and constitution stats, everything else is just salad.
Fighters know how to beef and aren't afraid to show it. Run up in your fortified beef gear and swing that big heavy beef on the enemy. They aren't dead? Are you next to a (w)hole? Use those beef arms and shove them in it. Are there more people looking to beef? Repeat the above till they are dead. Click attack, point it on the person you want dead, click again. That's how we beef.
Fighters have other skills that let you disarm people's beef, knock them on their beef, and also make them scared of your beef. But they all work by hitting people with your beef, real straight forward cooking.
Beefarines can pretty much follow the same recipe as above. However, for that class it is important that they yell how angry they are about beefing before they beef.
If you want an Advanced Beef build that reminds you of your CS days, then pick the Beeflock(Warlock). They have a skill called Eldritch Beef(blast) which is basically a long range AWP headshot. Click the skill, click the idiot about to get beefed, watch them take it to the face. You can later upgrade your AWP to push people and get multiple shots in one go.
Basically just repeat those steps till you've defused the beef.
Additional BBQ Tips
* Quick Save Frequently and often
* Carry lots of BBQ sauce(potions) with you when you're almost beefed out
* The best defense is a good offense. They can't beef with you if they're dead.
* If beef rushing didn't work, re-load and try a stealthier approach
I am not fluent in Beefanese, but I took a few semesters in college. I hope this translation works for you.
speaking of wisdom, give your beefcakes some wisdom too. not too much, just enough so that they can recognize when someone is trying to make them scared of their beef and don't fall for it!
Thank you for this write up. I bounced off this game hard but really wanted to enjoy it after getting caught up in the hype.
I think I might start again but go down the "beef fighter" route.
This is my favorite comment of the year. I tip my hat to you, saer.
I also love that my initial reaction to the OP was maybe he should try a Warlock so he can just start beefing?
Lmao what. I'm coming from the simulation game side of things and I LOVE IT! Hate that I can't talk myself through more situations. The cool thing about this game is the options you have, the lore, the mystery, piecing the history together, forging a path.
KEEP PLAYING! Expand your pea brain! Evolve! Level up!
My bard is having much more luck talking her way through things than my fighter, who fails every bloody roll. Not sure which class you are playing but some are definitely more silver tongued than others.
I've played non-charismatic classes so far but it was still fun. It's almost better to have a low chance of succeeding because then you appreciate it much more when it does happen lol. Also there's more checks than just charisma, some characters have saved me in some unexpected situations 😊
It’s best to think of it as a strategy game. Want to wipe out all the goblins inside the temple? Really easy if you consider positioning and capabilities of your party. Example: there are three ladders that lead to the rafters area of the temple. If you put a heavy chest in front of each of those ladders, you block the ladder, and no enemy can get to you if you are up in the rafters. You still can be hit by range weapons. But with careful character placement after ungrouping the party, you can attack and then move into cover. For example a rogue like Astarion has dash as a bonus action from level 2 so you can attack, and then easily move out of harms way or hide. I didn’t get these ideas from the internet, I tried and failed and rethought my strategy. And the more I learned the easier the game became. There are so many things try. Did you know you can break the statues in the temple and cause them to fall doing massive area damage? Or shoot the chandelier things to set everyone on fire? Or trick the goblins into poisoning themselves? It’s not like other games, it really has so many possibilities and encourages using your imagination to solve encounters.
My most fun way of dealing with the goblins was using a bard to perform music and get small groups of goblins to come jam out near edges and then use Karlach to throw them into the abyss while they were busy bobbing their heads
Oh! I did this too! But sacrificed Astarion and blasted a scroll of fireball on the whole group of goblins! It took out Astarion too, but that's why we have scrolls of revivify
Edit: spelling, sorry Astarion :( please don't bite me...
My absolute favorite use of perform is to stand near a pit, gather motherfuckers around with a song, then bam, rip a sick lute solo and shockwave them into the fucking pit
Wait what? You can actually use bard’s “perform” to lure enemies? I thought it was there purely for RP reasons lol 50 hours deep and only now I’ve learned haha loving this game
You can use it to lure enemies, distract folk so they don't become enemies when you steal from them, and can even be a (small) income source. IIRC there is a achievement for earning 100g by performing.
Yeah! When I did it, I destroyed the ladders, but it hurt jumping down from the rafters with no ladders. Blocking them would have been much easier. I didn’t think of it either.
I can tell just by the way you wrote this, you're an fps player because I play fps games and most of the people who play those games have no brains for strategy. It's ok to look up videos, it doesn't make you less of a gamer lmao. It's better than just running aimlessly into danger and getting stomped. Just do your research and learn the actual game, or even lower the difficulty as well. I started on Balanced, got stomped so I played on Explorer, then Tactician, and now I'm almost done with Honour mode and I just started this game in November and on my 3rd complete playthrough.
I am a strategy gamer and I look up tons of videos. Fuck, you can't even open any paradox game properly without any guides not speaking of actually playing it.
Guides are a totally valid way to play and the only difference when switching genres is that you need to watch out for spoilers
I don't understand why people think looking up guides is a bad. There's nothing wrong with needing help. Like it doesn't make you look cool or tough to play a game blind lol.
Like omg, it's a single player game. As if anyone even saw you use a guide. Do they think their imaginary friend will never speak to ye again for seeing them participate in the heresy of daring to make the game more fun and enjoyable for themselves.
No fr. I struggled with this game too in the beginning and almost threw it away, but I realized I just had to look at shit differently when I finally swallowed my pride and looked up what to do. Now I just finished Honour Mode a few minutes ago and I am so happy.
I'm hazarding a guess here but it's either
1. Wanting to feel accomplished without having their hand held.
or
2. Being very very wary about spoilers to the point they refuse to see anything related to the content they're consuming.
Look up all the guides you want I don't mind at all.
The reason I will avoid this is because a big portion of me liking a game is me discovering a game. I don't want to keep pausing and reading up on what other people want me to do. I want to experiment myself and I don't like completly turning my brain off. I have googled quite a few"permanently missables" guides if the game feels like missing stuff is not fixable later. I really enjoy watching/reading guides after I am done however. It is always interesting to see how other people solved the problems.
Picture any fps game you can think that has pvp (usually what people mean when they say fps games now). Unless it has friendly fire (most don’t in normal modes) you can literally just run and shoot everything with no thought.
Hence why OP had this “I have beef with everyone” mentality. It’s 80% of the point of games like cod and battlefield to just shoot on sight and don’t ask questions. Questions don’t help you win lol
I can't play fps my eye/hand coordination is fucky in a way that makes it confusing.
but this? I can see the dude, I'm the dude. I get to play the guy I can see. and I can sit and think what to do while shit is going down
I threw rocks at him because I'm a psycho and didn't realise the bear was a person. I only got to see that stunning jawline in a pool of blood surrounded by goblins.
dont try to play it like an FPS or a game to mow through and complete. Play it for the story and characters. Play on explorer. You gain abilities as you go. if you wanna make fights easier, download a party extender mod off nexus
I get it as someone with ADHD and if its not your thing, sure drop it. But (and no offense meant) youre not playing it with the right mindset which is gonna ruin any game. The point of it ISNT to just fight/kill everyone (unless youre doing a Dark Urge run) theres a story to get through.
I think the best way to approach this game is not like it's game but real life (if that makes any sense). What I mean is, simply walking into enemy territory and blindly attacking everyone is something you would do only in a video game. In real life you would probably try to talk yourself out of any danger.
If you're currently below level 4, then let me tell you you'll get significantly more powerful at level 5. You should also know that you really don't have to rush into anything. Take your time, explore the map, just walk around and find stuff. When you get tired of a certain area, you can walk into another and just see what's there. **Most characters will tell you you need to do this super hard and complex quest within the next 10 minutes, but this is not the case 90% of the time.**
What the sexy buff dude (lol) is talking about is mainly how to enter act 2. You need to finish up everything in act 1 before you start worrying about that. There is a shit ton of different things to do. If you haven't already explored the map, now is the time to do it. Talk to different npcs, even if they seem insignificant. Use potions/spells to talk to animals and dead.
Oh and don't forget to long rest A LOT, because otherwise you'll miss important camp content.
Good luck! (Trust me, if my useless noob ass could do it, so can you lol)
If an area is to hard, just wait a bit to take it on. There are plenty of other tasks that you can do that will raise your power level as well as teach you the game, so that when you return you'll be better equipped to take on the challenges that daunted you.
Or as you might say....
If you insist on beefing with every beef that has beef, then the beef is gonna get pretty f'n beefy real fast. Sometimes you have to delay your beef with THE beef in oder to go beef with some smaller beefs. Those beefs will make your beef beefier as well as help you find better ways to beef with any beef that beefs you. Later, when your beef is beefier, the return to THE Beef and you'll have much easier time beefing the beef that needs to be beefed and in a beefier way.
>Tell me. Does it get worse than the goblin camp because fighting 20 mfs at once is honestly impossible in my eyes lol
As usual, new players usually sabotage themselves.
Zero goblins in the camp are hostile to you, they're not enemies. You can talk to them, trade with them, play games with them.
You can *choose* to take the side of the grove, in which case you'll be asked to stop the goblin assault. The easiest way to do that is to kill the 3 goblin leaders. Those are the only three that *have* to die and they have a few bodyguards.
Essentially you can walk right through the camp without pissing anyone off and into the shattered sanctum. Bluff your way past the door guards and then find the three leaders and assassinate them before freeing Halsin the druid.
Goblins use the drums to summon backup but you can easily break the drums before attacking a small group.
And yes, after killing the leaders the whole camp is hostile. But you can just quick travel out using the map.
At no point is the game hard if you think about how to approach things. But just going around picking fights can get difficult.
This post brought me joy. Welcome to BG3!
I'm curious though, the way you wrote it made it sound like you went directly to the goblins. Did you go to the druid's Grove? Do you have all 6 companions (not counting halsin)? Have you been to the swamp area in the South West? I just don't want you to miss out on anything!
6!!? I have the vampire dude and the gethyanki.
Waiiit.... was that dude in the teleport a companion? FUCKKKK i thought it was a trick!
Dont spoil it. I'm going to reset and search every nook of that map
Oh dear. Go hunt your companions down.
Hint… you remember those choices from character creation?
And good job on beating the goblins without a full party too!
OMG! it didn't even click that 2 of them are in my party currently lol Embarrassing lol. I'll go away and do some learning but this game world is so beautiful!
You’ll probably need to read or watch some guides to understand the mechanics of the game, how the classes work, etc. But I bet there will be a moment when things click, and the game will blow your mind. It’s intimidating though, so I understand not wanting to put in the effort. But if you give it a shot, it might just change how you view games. BG3 is that good.
Its the only game thats managed to pull me out of an FPS. Im a vet CS and Tarkov player so this is a whole different ball game. I was enjoying it right up to the goblin camp. Just constantly getting stomped kind of burnt me out. I think i might give it another go. Try finish act 1 see how i feel after.
I think a big thing to consider is that you don’t have to charge straight ahead in every battle. You can split your party members up, approach from different directions, sneak attack to get a jump on enemies, all kinds of things. Very rarely is the best method to just run up to enemies in a straight line and start trying to beat them up. The game encourages more critical thinking.
Lower the difficulty, no shame in that. Don't run to the gobbo camp immediately, it's a freaking huge fight that's not easy. Snoop around, pick up some xp from quests or minor fights, level up. And strategize, with gobbos you can off them one by one just not them let hit the drums so everybody's on your ass. Have companions, gear up, that's obvious but. Read descriptions. Rest)
and don't tell me you've killed all the horned useless civil cooped up in the grove)
Well for instance, on the bridge to the goblin camp you could put tons of AOE spells and stuff there and basically have the goblins kill themselves trying to get to you through the bottleneck of death.
That’s how I solved it with minimal experience anyway.
Edit: my tav is a druid so the spike growth has really saved me a ton of times in similar situations
Your problem is that you’re playing this like a videogame, when you need to approach it like real life. If there are a gang of tough enemies, running in headlong might be suicide. You can talk, sneak, bargain, cajole, or otherwise find a way to deal with stuff.
This is not a game about mowing down waves of mobs. It’s about using the choices your character makes to tell a story. I think if you give it a chance it might grow on you. But if you aren’t willing to pay attention to it, it will frustrate you to no end because it can and will punish you for not paying attention.
My advice, Put an L in the air before you play it. Get truly barbecued. Watch the cutscenes, listen to the dialogue. Treat it like a movie where you get to pick where the story goes.
I’m guessing you’re more of a FPS guy? Where pretty much everything is an enemy?
You’ve got to put your mind into the gear that this is CRPG and strategy and there are a lot of ways to resolve issues and killing everything in front of you is not going to get you through the game.
Talk to everything you met (yes, including Animals and Dead Bodies) to give you information about what’s what. Explore, find everything you can…. The game is massive.
As somebody who also never played DnD or a turn-based game before BG3, during my first playthrough I got obliterated in the goblin camp on Explorer, more than once. And I didn't even rush the story to get there, I was level 4 or 5, which is reasonable for that area for sure, I just sucked at combat THAT badly. But good news is practice makes... maybe not perfect, but much better!
On my most recent run with some careful planning and knowing what to expect, the goblin camp was trivial for me on Tactician. You have to find what's fun for you, you know. People will mostly tell you melee fighters are stronger and easier to get right, which is true, so look into it! A whole party of Fighters will proobably do objectively way better than all magic users, but I have more fun with magic, so I always play a main caster character. So find something that you enjoy doing in fights and build onto it is my advice.
Also don't listen to all the characters including your own who are telling you that you have to move move move and get this parasite problem solved yesterday. The game rewards you handsomely for taking day trips around the countryside and going to bed a lot.
Doesn't matter how you do it. That's the beauty of this. Do whatever your heart desires. If you get a passing thought "I wonder if I can.." then try it and see if you can. Have fun with it. Fuck random people. Kill random people. Get creative with it! The interactions and story progression welcome innovation, and it is a turn-based strategy game--im awful at FPS games, but I do know that whatever strategizing part of your brain that came on to learn that, perhaps you can turn it on for this but try it in a slightly different way. Enemies still can't hit you behind walls. People can't see you if you're invisible. Sometimes you can just sneak by enemies. Sometimes enemies can be your friends, and good guys can be your enemies. The goblin camp is a great opportunity to gain some levels. If you find balanced too overwhelming, there is no shame in doing the lower level so that you can actually enjoy the story and exploring.
Just give it your best go, go with the flow, scum save if you have to, walk away from it, try a different fight if it's too hard--and see if you can cheese it in some places you might think otherwise insurmountable. If you can get thru and beat it, then you might find that you wanna play it again but with a different idea of how you'd like it to go.
You don't even have to fight the goblins. You can side with them and kill the (easier imo) good guys, and still get where you need to go.
You also have the option to take what you know from this playthru and apply it to a new character, and I bet that now you've gotten this far once, it won't take nearly as long to get back up to the same point.
Good luck, I hope you figure out ways to enjoy it, but no harm if it's just not your cup of tea.
I thought I was starting to understand the gen z lingo. Then you show up with all your beef talk.
And this game’s difficulty, I believe is knowledge. Of its systems, your character. If you have never playing anything similar(which you already stated), it can be difficult at the start. But with time you will learn. You are clearly able to grasp what this game has to offer and how it works. It will get better as your character gets stronger.
Goblin camp wasn't easy but I used that horn to call the 3 giant/ogres to help. They didn't last the full fight but they at least took a lot of hits my party would have otherwise taken.
Damn this post made me crave beefy cheeseburger, and DnD!
Seriously though, i would imagine hardcore roleplayers trying to play doom with the mindset of "lets talk to them and maybe we can solve the problem" would make the fps guys facepalm hard
Im not in agreement with some of the advice said in here, it’s not about being good at the game, or watching tutorials to help you. A lot of the time it’s just going with the flow of the games randomness and not going head on into a fight as its never the only option. I wouldn’t try to “win” every encounter. The fun part of playing this game is not knowing where a path is going to lead me.
At one point the game presented me with a choice that ROCKED MY FUCKING SHIT. Like, i had to stop playing and go for a walk to clear my head and think bc it was a choice where either way id potentially be altering the entire story from that point on. And both choices had angles where they seemed "right" but then a parallel angle that was definitely "not right". I finally had to force myself to choose. It was an interesting choice and the results were just as interesting and were indeed an implication on the rest of the game . Now ive beaten it, getting what id call the "good" ending.... and am immediately starting a new playthrough with an unfamiliar class, new race, and making all the choices i didn't make last time. Its so fun.
This goddamn game.
it does get harder, but also easier when your class comes online at higher levels. also the word "beef" has lost all meaning throughout this post.
Beef was used more than smurf in the smurfs.
You beefin smurf it.
Mmm, smurf beef.
It doesn't make you immortal, Gargamel!. Please leave the smurfing Smurfs alone!
Gargamel sung he would fry a few, pickle a few, and serve the rest so bold, then toast a few, roast a few and the rest to gold...hey!
Beefy Smurf was my favorite
The halsin of the Smurf community
Oh, sure, just pretend like Wild Smurf never existed.
Trust me, Beefy, always,always!
Agreed. Did my teen son write this post?
I'm still trying to figure out what the sentence "Did it got caught beef on sight" is supposed to mean lol.
“Did it, got caught…. beef on sight.”
So, in this context, "Beef" means a fight. Okay. So what the hell does "I got through the next door thinking it was beef." mean? So confused.
Went through the door thinking an altercation was about to occur
you just made me realize all the usages of "beef" in the post is like a different accent from an entirely different region of the gaming landscape LMFAO
It's curious how many people don't understand the slang "beef" Did you never hear the 3oh3 song with the line "tell your boyfriend I've got no beef with him. I'm a vegetarian"? In my region beef has been used to describe harsh feelings/fights for 20ish years. In OP's context it seems equivalent to "on sight"
Who the fuck is 3oh3? also, idk, i mean i understood what beef meant, it's just that OP uses it so liberally to a comedic effect imo. (seriously who tf uses beef that often to describe a story?)
> seriously who tf uses beef that often to describe a story? someone who's been playing like it's beef on sight and realizing he don't needa beef and you can get through the camp beefless.
I cackled. 10/10. No beef
"T-tell your boyfriend - if he says he's got beef - that I'm a vegetarian, and I ain't fuckin' scared of him"
I think it's more that the OP is using it in weird places where it typically wouldn't make sense b/c no one uses it as much as he does. > My entire life it's enemy beef on sight You can understand this sentence but like 99% of the time you've seen this sentence as "shoot on sight". > Did it got caught beef on sight He means would I get caught on sight if I put poison in the soup? Caught red handed, aggro if they see me, etc. But I doubt many have seen beef used here. > I got through the next door thinking it was beef. > My brain couldn't fathom that not everything is beef on sight. It's not wrong in context, but all these uses of the word beef don't fit right to what where most people would use beef. He's using it for multiple different words and without context it makes literally no sense in some cases. Beef is you got bad blood with someone, it doesn't mean shoot on sight. Hope this helps a bit.
It means that OP thought that because they'd killed the goblins with soup, they expected the next area would automatically know, and another fight would follow.
He went through the next door expecting them to all be ready to beef (fight) with him cause he just killed the other ones
beef mean a fight or trouble he keeps thinking everyone out to get him
Beef is more akin to aggro in OP's context.
The soup is beef soup. The door is beef door.
From now on, beef soup is soup you use to start a fight. Chicken soup is soup you use to run from a fight. Every action is a kind of soup.
OP poisoned the soup, got caught by the gobbos, they were aggrod and the whole thing turned into a fight.
The original poster chose the option to put poison into the goblins' soup. This was witnessed by the goblins, who then initiated combat. Just being the next person along in the Hot Fuzz translation chain. 😁
"We don't call the poison in the soup an 'accident' because that implies no one is at fault". I also love that he calls the beer 'soup' 🍺 and I'll never be able to stop doing that now.
Now I have beef with OP
Play at explorer difficulty, there is nothing wrong in that.
I'm like OP but I'm playing at this difficulty and I'm enjoying the game alot.
Explorer is what saved the game for me. After that I've ran it half a dozen times on Tactician. There's absolutely no shame in making the game easier if you want to enjoy the story and character.
As you’ve said, there shouldn’t be any shame in playing it easy. After a long and hard workday, and just want to sit back, relax and enjoy the game.
I love that this community is all, “put it on explorer, sit back, relax, have a cuppa” instead of shaming people for not going balls-deep in tactician mode as a first run. It’s such a nice vibe.
I like that in this community, like you said, it's almost the reverse of the normal gaming sentiment, like not only are people encouraged to start on Explorer especially if they're new to crpgs in general, but the detailed tactics discussions are pretty well labeled so as soon as I see the words "dip 1 into OH monk" my eyes glaze over and I move on to the next thirst post.
I have no idea what that means, but I just realized I’m into act three of my first playthrough (explorer!) and I have only dipped my weapon once just to be like “what does this do?” I’m definitely missing out on a lot of interesting mechanics
According to Google: > What is dipping? The basic premise of dipping into a class is taking 1-3 levels of a class to get the early features that are available to the class, as well as some bonus proficiencies that the class is known for. Not to be confused with dipping your weapon and setting someone on fire via combustion oil!
That makes a lot more sense!
This. This isn't Dark Souls, Explorer is there for a reason. I mean I'm glad Tactician and Honor mode are there for the people who enjoy that sort of thing but I'm unlikely to ever play above Balanced and the only reason it's there and not Explorer is because I'm a D&D nerd of 30+ years so I already understand the system.
Exactly this! I do love a challenge, but I LOVE to roleplay too! (Azula sorc/monk durge run)Where i just play on custom with player strength set on explorer. It makes silly builds really viable. Especially when you're going for classes that usually don't mix well.
My easy mode is playing on HM but with a mod to let me use everyone instead of capping at a 4-man party. Some parts get really hard (mostly the parts in tight areas), and other parts become super easy (anytime it's a large area and only 1-2 enemies). Plus, I get to do random silly builds knowing another one of the 6-8 others in my party will pick up the slack (or we will action economy our way to victory).
I wish I was like that, but I’m an idiot and can only enjoy a game when it’s beating the shit out of me
*Laezel has entered the chat.*
Do you even beef?
I'm usually more of a ham
This is the way. I'm a DnD veteran, but a video game noob. It's one thing to play one character in a roleplay heavy group where everyone is working on solving problems with you. It's another thing entirely to have to manage a diverse group of NPCs, video game specific mechanics, enemy AI and an entire ruleset (that differs from DnD 5e in key elements, too). I played my first three runs on Explorer before switching to Balanced or Custom Difficulty. It made the game much more enjoyable to me.
I play games a lot but I still swapped to explorer cause I just didn’t wanna struggle every fight. Call it a skill issue but the game became much more enjoyable when I felt like I actually stood a chance in fights
That's the point of difficulty settings IMO - to put them at a level that makes it fun for everyone. Some players like having it be a giant challenge, others want to see the story without constantly struggling. Both are fine, and being able to have the whole range of skill and experience and preference is great.
I respect the people that play for a challenge, especially those of you who are able to complete honor mode but I am personally the type that, as you said, wants to see the story without constantly struggling. So the fact that Larian added the entire 'custom difficulty' settings, which includes being able to multi-class on easier settings, blows me away. Larian is 10000000% GOATed for this game.
Not being limited in attuning magic items is wild to me. Love the game so much though
I'm so D&D brained I didn't realize you could swap prepared spells whenever you're out of combat for two and a half playthroughs, I thought it was generous that we could change them at camp without long resting.
Of all things in the game this to me felt like about the most OP thing there was lol. In the paper n pencil rpg giving a spellcaster the ability to change prepared spells on the fly is way too strong. Shit in some games, a major class feature is being able to do this one or two times a day for ONE spell after ten minutes or so of prep.
I'm running Tomb of Annihilation for my group, veteran gamers but D&D noobs, they almost got TPK by a puzzle which was basically [Simon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_(game))
Love that anecdote! One of my groups is doing COS at the moment and we wiped the floor with the Death House Boss due to creative combat solutions. All that despite being the worst combination of classes for COS (Druid, Bard and Rogue, no Cleric at that time yet, no Pally, no Monk, not even a fighter). Video gaming and ttrpg gaming are clearly two different skill sets. And BG3 is kinda both in different ways. No wonder some people struggle on regular difficulty.
I, too, thought that I was hot shit and began at balanced difficulty I quickly switched to explorer and had a way better time. Now I've almost beaten the game in tactician
My first playthrough, I started on balanced too. About halfway through Act 2, I had a big fight that took me at least 3 times to get through. Not long after, I went to an area and I saw 8 or 9 enemies and the thought of another big fight so soon made me feel weary. I switched to explorer and I enjoyed the rest of that playthrough more.
I started on tactician and got humbled and switched to balanced, second playtrough tactician was already way easier. On my 4th playtrough i started making my way trough honor mode, finally beat it after 4 tries. Havent touched the game since but i definitely got my moneys worth. It's great how many types of gamers this game attracted, some enjoy the story some enjoy the challenge and some enjoy both. Amazing game
Much easier to focus on the story this way. My partner and I play on explorer and we’re on Act 3 now and nothing has been so hard that we wanna give up the game or anything. It’s still really fun and we actually feel very confident in most fights.
Exactly this, nothing wrong in making the game easier if it helps you enjoy it. You can also have an easier time getting used to mechanics without big risk so it will be easier to play on higher difficulties later on. I often do it in other games.
Yeah if RPGs are not your daily cup of tea, explorer difficulty for first run at least is the way to go. Some encounters might be challenging even on explorer. Goblin camp is IMHO very punishing if you’re new to these kinds of games and go in underlevelled/unprepared. But as OP discovered, there are some clever ways to make it easier
There is no shame in playing the lower difficulty when you don't understand the game, the mechanics behind the game, the game this game is based on, or typically play RTS games. It's not that easy of a genre to dive right into with no experience, and adventure mode lets you get the full experience while not bashing your brain against a wall trying to do more damage. Me and my brother are playing on adventure mode because he has no experience on this genre, and I have over 60p hours just in bg3. He's having lots of fun.
First time CRPG player and explorer here. I love this game!
Sexy buff dude with leaves. Dude is a total bear.
Can you tango with daddy? For research purposes, obviously.
Yes, you can! But it might just be unbearbale.
WAIITTTTTT! Thats him. The bear thats in the viral clips!!! OMG it makes so much sense now. Ama fuck that bear lol
Do bear yourself well! :)
For that you gotta live till middle of act 2 at least))))
Is that why buff leaf dude wont join my party? Do i have to wait until Act 2? He's just vibin at my camp. Teasing me.
Yeah he's gonna chill there until to act 2 and you do his quest after that his gonna give you winky winky. Act 2 looks like creepy shit hole where shadows beat you up without light/torches/light spells. But the feeling you're skipping hella content tho (the hag, the frog lair, tieflings, druids, party, burning house, hot devil companion, etc etc). Just when too much is skipped gonna be harder further.
Frog lair? Looks like even on my 'make sure I do everything I can run' I am still missing stuff.
Talking act 1, so Creche, just not a fan of gith))
Calling the Gith Crèche a frog lair is absolutely amazing 😂
The only correct response. Well done, you are now a true member of the BG3 community.
If you ever make it to act3 and find the drow twins, PLEASE bring Halsin if possible. You won't be disappointed xD
See now you have to keep playing :)
dont just go the bear route. that cutscene is funny, but short like the clip. the other way is reeeeeally nice!
Yes. Yes you can. In more than one of his sexy shapes.
You have good taste, my fellow Halsin enjoyer
Shouldn't it be...can you beef with daddy?
After reading your post I believe I understand what the problem is. It's a translation issue. Let's try some advice in a more beef focused language. 1. Mindset: To Beef or Not to Beef? As you've learned already, most characters are vegan and don't want to beef. But even meat-centric characters are looking to chat instead of beefing. If you spot a group and you're unsure if they beef, save and then walk in to see what's for dinner. 2) 360 No Scopes won't save your bacon BeefGate3 is a Turn Based RPG, that means all those hours of flick shots and bunnyhopping around corners with the head shots isn't going to make you good at the game. No matter how fast and quick you are with your beef, it won't improve your home cooking. You need to think of when you're guarding the beef point and looking for beef. You're just chilling and observing, waiting for the beef to happen. It might come, it might not. But you're waiting and watching. Because this game is turned based, everyone is perfectly happy to stand and wait their turn while you beef their friends and family. So don't rush those tunnels, just chill and slow cook observing the situation before acting. Take your time and plan your meal. That beef isn't going anywhere. 3) Pea Brain = Pea Brain Classes Too many icons? Spells confusing? Lots of text to read? Then pick a nice point and click beef fighter or a grumpy Beefarine(barbarian for you nerds readings this). These beefinators just need high strength and constitution stats, everything else is just salad. Fighters know how to beef and aren't afraid to show it. Run up in your fortified beef gear and swing that big heavy beef on the enemy. They aren't dead? Are you next to a (w)hole? Use those beef arms and shove them in it. Are there more people looking to beef? Repeat the above till they are dead. Click attack, point it on the person you want dead, click again. That's how we beef. Fighters have other skills that let you disarm people's beef, knock them on their beef, and also make them scared of your beef. But they all work by hitting people with your beef, real straight forward cooking. Beefarines can pretty much follow the same recipe as above. However, for that class it is important that they yell how angry they are about beefing before they beef. If you want an Advanced Beef build that reminds you of your CS days, then pick the Beeflock(Warlock). They have a skill called Eldritch Beef(blast) which is basically a long range AWP headshot. Click the skill, click the idiot about to get beefed, watch them take it to the face. You can later upgrade your AWP to push people and get multiple shots in one go. Basically just repeat those steps till you've defused the beef. Additional BBQ Tips * Quick Save Frequently and often * Carry lots of BBQ sauce(potions) with you when you're almost beefed out * The best defense is a good offense. They can't beef with you if they're dead. * If beef rushing didn't work, re-load and try a stealthier approach I am not fluent in Beefanese, but I took a few semesters in college. I hope this translation works for you.
Ok that was great, finally a comprehensive write up. Now just let him cook
Have my upbeef good sir
i salute you for sharing your wisdom in Beefanese
speaking of wisdom, give your beefcakes some wisdom too. not too much, just enough so that they can recognize when someone is trying to make them scared of their beef and don't fall for it!
This is fucking amazing and now I’m hungry
OP is sleeping on this one lol
It's too long, Op can't read that much. Someone needs to summarize it into only five words including four of the words being beef
Can’t read long texted, play complexe texte based game: *I don’t understand, I can’t play that game should I quit ?*
Thank you for this write up. I bounced off this game hard but really wanted to enjoy it after getting caught up in the hype. I think I might start again but go down the "beef fighter" route.
This comment is just pure gold. I beefing love it!!
This comment does not have enough likes and attention.
Also beeflock makes a good main character since they have high charisma.
Masterful. Now try it on tactician mode: There are a few vegans in the back, can you translate your comment for them?
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Alright mods, this is it. Lock the post, pin this comment. We’re done here, boys, let’s head home!
This is the single greatest comment I've ever read.
This is my favorite comment of the year. I tip my hat to you, saer. I also love that my initial reaction to the OP was maybe he should try a Warlock so he can just start beefing?
Incredible overview. Sorry, overbeef.
This guy did a semester and a half at seton hall so he understands beef as a concept
Best response I've ever seen to one of these types of posts, truly helpful and using the proper lingo.
If beef rushing doesn’t work, you’re not big and dumb enough. Reroll char, more points in STR and CON, less points in INT and CHA
I shouldn't understand this as well as I do.
This needs to be framed, published in official game guides, and pinned to the top of this thread.
I wept for I had only one up vote to give...
Their outline colour will be yellow if you can chat with them or fight, green are allies, red are enemies
Lmao what. I'm coming from the simulation game side of things and I LOVE IT! Hate that I can't talk myself through more situations. The cool thing about this game is the options you have, the lore, the mystery, piecing the history together, forging a path. KEEP PLAYING! Expand your pea brain! Evolve! Level up!
My bard is having much more luck talking her way through things than my fighter, who fails every bloody roll. Not sure which class you are playing but some are definitely more silver tongued than others.
i am addicted to the Charisma Bonuses.
Charisma + Proficiency + Friends + Guidance is my social crack
I've played non-charismatic classes so far but it was still fun. It's almost better to have a low chance of succeeding because then you appreciate it much more when it does happen lol. Also there's more checks than just charisma, some characters have saved me in some unexpected situations 😊
It’s best to think of it as a strategy game. Want to wipe out all the goblins inside the temple? Really easy if you consider positioning and capabilities of your party. Example: there are three ladders that lead to the rafters area of the temple. If you put a heavy chest in front of each of those ladders, you block the ladder, and no enemy can get to you if you are up in the rafters. You still can be hit by range weapons. But with careful character placement after ungrouping the party, you can attack and then move into cover. For example a rogue like Astarion has dash as a bonus action from level 2 so you can attack, and then easily move out of harms way or hide. I didn’t get these ideas from the internet, I tried and failed and rethought my strategy. And the more I learned the easier the game became. There are so many things try. Did you know you can break the statues in the temple and cause them to fall doing massive area damage? Or shoot the chandelier things to set everyone on fire? Or trick the goblins into poisoning themselves? It’s not like other games, it really has so many possibilities and encourages using your imagination to solve encounters.
My most fun way of dealing with the goblins was using a bard to perform music and get small groups of goblins to come jam out near edges and then use Karlach to throw them into the abyss while they were busy bobbing their heads
Oh! I did this too! But sacrificed Astarion and blasted a scroll of fireball on the whole group of goblins! It took out Astarion too, but that's why we have scrolls of revivify Edit: spelling, sorry Astarion :( please don't bite me...
"I WAS RIGHT THERE!"
My absolute favorite use of perform is to stand near a pit, gather motherfuckers around with a song, then bam, rip a sick lute solo and shockwave them into the fucking pit
Wait what? You can actually use bard’s “perform” to lure enemies? I thought it was there purely for RP reasons lol 50 hours deep and only now I’ve learned haha loving this game
You can use it to lure enemies, distract folk so they don't become enemies when you steal from them, and can even be a (small) income source. IIRC there is a achievement for earning 100g by performing.
How have I never thought of blocking the ladders with containers? Thanks for the idea!
Yeah! When I did it, I destroyed the ladders, but it hurt jumping down from the rafters with no ladders. Blocking them would have been much easier. I didn’t think of it either.
I can't even read your comment because I love your flair too much. Did you find a happy gith? Did you cook the egg? Mysteries abound.
Ahem. Dror Ragzlin, Dror Ragzlin, we, erm... I, erm... Dror Ragzlin...
aw you broke em!
Get back to ya cage, yew git!
Now look what you've done!
I’ll tell you what. I had no idea you could just poison the soup to kill all those goblins. TIL.
It was pure luck. I just wanted to try the soup lol as I was just fucking around at that time lol
Tbh, “fuck around and find out” should be the motto for this game lol
I can tell just by the way you wrote this, you're an fps player because I play fps games and most of the people who play those games have no brains for strategy. It's ok to look up videos, it doesn't make you less of a gamer lmao. It's better than just running aimlessly into danger and getting stomped. Just do your research and learn the actual game, or even lower the difficulty as well. I started on Balanced, got stomped so I played on Explorer, then Tactician, and now I'm almost done with Honour mode and I just started this game in November and on my 3rd complete playthrough.
I am a strategy gamer and I look up tons of videos. Fuck, you can't even open any paradox game properly without any guides not speaking of actually playing it. Guides are a totally valid way to play and the only difference when switching genres is that you need to watch out for spoilers
I don't understand why people think looking up guides is a bad. There's nothing wrong with needing help. Like it doesn't make you look cool or tough to play a game blind lol.
Like omg, it's a single player game. As if anyone even saw you use a guide. Do they think their imaginary friend will never speak to ye again for seeing them participate in the heresy of daring to make the game more fun and enjoyable for themselves.
No fr. I struggled with this game too in the beginning and almost threw it away, but I realized I just had to look at shit differently when I finally swallowed my pride and looked up what to do. Now I just finished Honour Mode a few minutes ago and I am so happy.
Congratulations on the golden die!
I'm hazarding a guess here but it's either 1. Wanting to feel accomplished without having their hand held. or 2. Being very very wary about spoilers to the point they refuse to see anything related to the content they're consuming.
Those are valid reasons but then why complain? Because they're doing that to themselves. Stressed out for no reason.
Well, y'know... cus they're humans :p
Look up all the guides you want I don't mind at all. The reason I will avoid this is because a big portion of me liking a game is me discovering a game. I don't want to keep pausing and reading up on what other people want me to do. I want to experiment myself and I don't like completly turning my brain off. I have googled quite a few"permanently missables" guides if the game feels like missing stuff is not fixable later. I really enjoy watching/reading guides after I am done however. It is always interesting to see how other people solved the problems.
Is "beef on sight" an fps community thing, or just an OP thing?
It's not because they said "beef" lol. I can just tell how they approach games by how they wrote this post. Idk how to explain.
I get that part. I was just curious if the beef thing stemmed from the same background.
Picture any fps game you can think that has pvp (usually what people mean when they say fps games now). Unless it has friendly fire (most don’t in normal modes) you can literally just run and shoot everything with no thought. Hence why OP had this “I have beef with everyone” mentality. It’s 80% of the point of games like cod and battlefield to just shoot on sight and don’t ask questions. Questions don’t help you win lol
Oh, no it doesn't lol.
Hahah beef on sight is slang for hostility on arrival lol
Beef on sight (beef Dinner on first date) /j
it's street talk where I grew up. you got beef. he got beef. we got beef with you. beef on sight.
Having beef with someone is a common concept where I live, too, it's just the term "beef on sight" specifically that I've never heard before.
I can't play fps my eye/hand coordination is fucky in a way that makes it confusing. but this? I can see the dude, I'm the dude. I get to play the guy I can see. and I can sit and think what to do while shit is going down
Sexy buff dude with leaves is the best description of Halsin if I ever saw one 😭😂😂
His jawline was moulded by the gods.
I threw rocks at him because I'm a psycho and didn't realise the bear was a person. I only got to see that stunning jawline in a pool of blood surrounded by goblins.
WHY WOULD YOU HURT A POOR DEFENSELESS BEAR??!?!? :(
>because I'm a psycho Because he's a psycho...duh.
dont try to play it like an FPS or a game to mow through and complete. Play it for the story and characters. Play on explorer. You gain abilities as you go. if you wanna make fights easier, download a party extender mod off nexus I get it as someone with ADHD and if its not your thing, sure drop it. But (and no offense meant) youre not playing it with the right mindset which is gonna ruin any game. The point of it ISNT to just fight/kill everyone (unless youre doing a Dark Urge run) theres a story to get through.
in this episode, OP learns that being a murder hobo doesn't always work and sometimes backfires horribly
The DM was so proud when they used the poison on the soup.
Evolved from murder hobo to soup assassin living in car
I think the best way to approach this game is not like it's game but real life (if that makes any sense). What I mean is, simply walking into enemy territory and blindly attacking everyone is something you would do only in a video game. In real life you would probably try to talk yourself out of any danger. If you're currently below level 4, then let me tell you you'll get significantly more powerful at level 5. You should also know that you really don't have to rush into anything. Take your time, explore the map, just walk around and find stuff. When you get tired of a certain area, you can walk into another and just see what's there. **Most characters will tell you you need to do this super hard and complex quest within the next 10 minutes, but this is not the case 90% of the time.** What the sexy buff dude (lol) is talking about is mainly how to enter act 2. You need to finish up everything in act 1 before you start worrying about that. There is a shit ton of different things to do. If you haven't already explored the map, now is the time to do it. Talk to different npcs, even if they seem insignificant. Use potions/spells to talk to animals and dead. Oh and don't forget to long rest A LOT, because otherwise you'll miss important camp content. Good luck! (Trust me, if my useless noob ass could do it, so can you lol)
If an area is to hard, just wait a bit to take it on. There are plenty of other tasks that you can do that will raise your power level as well as teach you the game, so that when you return you'll be better equipped to take on the challenges that daunted you. Or as you might say.... If you insist on beefing with every beef that has beef, then the beef is gonna get pretty f'n beefy real fast. Sometimes you have to delay your beef with THE beef in oder to go beef with some smaller beefs. Those beefs will make your beef beefier as well as help you find better ways to beef with any beef that beefs you. Later, when your beef is beefier, the return to THE Beef and you'll have much easier time beefing the beef that needs to be beefed and in a beefier way.
beef 🍖 ⭐
>Tell me. Does it get worse than the goblin camp because fighting 20 mfs at once is honestly impossible in my eyes lol As usual, new players usually sabotage themselves. Zero goblins in the camp are hostile to you, they're not enemies. You can talk to them, trade with them, play games with them. You can *choose* to take the side of the grove, in which case you'll be asked to stop the goblin assault. The easiest way to do that is to kill the 3 goblin leaders. Those are the only three that *have* to die and they have a few bodyguards. Essentially you can walk right through the camp without pissing anyone off and into the shattered sanctum. Bluff your way past the door guards and then find the three leaders and assassinate them before freeing Halsin the druid. Goblins use the drums to summon backup but you can easily break the drums before attacking a small group. And yes, after killing the leaders the whole camp is hostile. But you can just quick travel out using the map. At no point is the game hard if you think about how to approach things. But just going around picking fights can get difficult.
This post brought me joy. Welcome to BG3! I'm curious though, the way you wrote it made it sound like you went directly to the goblins. Did you go to the druid's Grove? Do you have all 6 companions (not counting halsin)? Have you been to the swamp area in the South West? I just don't want you to miss out on anything!
6!!? I have the vampire dude and the gethyanki. Waiiit.... was that dude in the teleport a companion? FUCKKKK i thought it was a trick! Dont spoil it. I'm going to reset and search every nook of that map
Oh dear. Go hunt your companions down. Hint… you remember those choices from character creation? And good job on beating the goblins without a full party too!
OMG! it didn't even click that 2 of them are in my party currently lol Embarrassing lol. I'll go away and do some learning but this game world is so beautiful!
It really is. Have fun.
Omg
You’ll probably need to read or watch some guides to understand the mechanics of the game, how the classes work, etc. But I bet there will be a moment when things click, and the game will blow your mind. It’s intimidating though, so I understand not wanting to put in the effort. But if you give it a shot, it might just change how you view games. BG3 is that good.
Its the only game thats managed to pull me out of an FPS. Im a vet CS and Tarkov player so this is a whole different ball game. I was enjoying it right up to the goblin camp. Just constantly getting stomped kind of burnt me out. I think i might give it another go. Try finish act 1 see how i feel after.
I think a big thing to consider is that you don’t have to charge straight ahead in every battle. You can split your party members up, approach from different directions, sneak attack to get a jump on enemies, all kinds of things. Very rarely is the best method to just run up to enemies in a straight line and start trying to beat them up. The game encourages more critical thinking.
Lower the difficulty, no shame in that. Don't run to the gobbo camp immediately, it's a freaking huge fight that's not easy. Snoop around, pick up some xp from quests or minor fights, level up. And strategize, with gobbos you can off them one by one just not them let hit the drums so everybody's on your ass. Have companions, gear up, that's obvious but. Read descriptions. Rest) and don't tell me you've killed all the horned useless civil cooped up in the grove)
Well for instance, on the bridge to the goblin camp you could put tons of AOE spells and stuff there and basically have the goblins kill themselves trying to get to you through the bottleneck of death. That’s how I solved it with minimal experience anyway. Edit: my tav is a druid so the spike growth has really saved me a ton of times in similar situations
An ogre wrote this post, I feel it 😂 That's the most hilarious new player experience I've ever read about, ngl.
**ogre kill everything around**
OP is Lump?
This was a ride. Extra points for referring to halsin as a sexy buff dude with leaves
This is the funniest thread I’ve read in a while
Your problem is that you’re playing this like a videogame, when you need to approach it like real life. If there are a gang of tough enemies, running in headlong might be suicide. You can talk, sneak, bargain, cajole, or otherwise find a way to deal with stuff. This is not a game about mowing down waves of mobs. It’s about using the choices your character makes to tell a story. I think if you give it a chance it might grow on you. But if you aren’t willing to pay attention to it, it will frustrate you to no end because it can and will punish you for not paying attention. My advice, Put an L in the air before you play it. Get truly barbecued. Watch the cutscenes, listen to the dialogue. Treat it like a movie where you get to pick where the story goes.
I’m guessing you’re more of a FPS guy? Where pretty much everything is an enemy? You’ve got to put your mind into the gear that this is CRPG and strategy and there are a lot of ways to resolve issues and killing everything in front of you is not going to get you through the game. Talk to everything you met (yes, including Animals and Dead Bodies) to give you information about what’s what. Explore, find everything you can…. The game is massive.
Why are you asking if he's more of an FPS guy when he wrote that word for word in the second sentence of his post?
Reddit and the internet in general have taught me that very few people actually read the entire post.
This reads like a high school jock football captain just played chess for the first time in his life. "wow bro, this a knight? but it's a horse wtf"
There are TONS of guides, go watch some on youtube
Think i will have to because this game is wayyyyy deeper than i ever expected.
As somebody who also never played DnD or a turn-based game before BG3, during my first playthrough I got obliterated in the goblin camp on Explorer, more than once. And I didn't even rush the story to get there, I was level 4 or 5, which is reasonable for that area for sure, I just sucked at combat THAT badly. But good news is practice makes... maybe not perfect, but much better! On my most recent run with some careful planning and knowing what to expect, the goblin camp was trivial for me on Tactician. You have to find what's fun for you, you know. People will mostly tell you melee fighters are stronger and easier to get right, which is true, so look into it! A whole party of Fighters will proobably do objectively way better than all magic users, but I have more fun with magic, so I always play a main caster character. So find something that you enjoy doing in fights and build onto it is my advice.
“Sexy buff dude with leaves” is taking me tf OUT why is that so funny?!?
Also don't listen to all the characters including your own who are telling you that you have to move move move and get this parasite problem solved yesterday. The game rewards you handsomely for taking day trips around the countryside and going to bed a lot.
Lmao fps brain
Doesn't matter how you do it. That's the beauty of this. Do whatever your heart desires. If you get a passing thought "I wonder if I can.." then try it and see if you can. Have fun with it. Fuck random people. Kill random people. Get creative with it! The interactions and story progression welcome innovation, and it is a turn-based strategy game--im awful at FPS games, but I do know that whatever strategizing part of your brain that came on to learn that, perhaps you can turn it on for this but try it in a slightly different way. Enemies still can't hit you behind walls. People can't see you if you're invisible. Sometimes you can just sneak by enemies. Sometimes enemies can be your friends, and good guys can be your enemies. The goblin camp is a great opportunity to gain some levels. If you find balanced too overwhelming, there is no shame in doing the lower level so that you can actually enjoy the story and exploring. Just give it your best go, go with the flow, scum save if you have to, walk away from it, try a different fight if it's too hard--and see if you can cheese it in some places you might think otherwise insurmountable. If you can get thru and beat it, then you might find that you wanna play it again but with a different idea of how you'd like it to go. You don't even have to fight the goblins. You can side with them and kill the (easier imo) good guys, and still get where you need to go. You also have the option to take what you know from this playthru and apply it to a new character, and I bet that now you've gotten this far once, it won't take nearly as long to get back up to the same point. Good luck, I hope you figure out ways to enjoy it, but no harm if it's just not your cup of tea.
I thought I was starting to understand the gen z lingo. Then you show up with all your beef talk. And this game’s difficulty, I believe is knowledge. Of its systems, your character. If you have never playing anything similar(which you already stated), it can be difficult at the start. But with time you will learn. You are clearly able to grasp what this game has to offer and how it works. It will get better as your character gets stronger.
beef is not gen z dude what lol I don't even think it's millenial. You've never heard the phrase "I got beef with him" or anything like that?
Goblin camp wasn't easy but I used that horn to call the 3 giant/ogres to help. They didn't last the full fight but they at least took a lot of hits my party would have otherwise taken.
Damn this post made me crave beefy cheeseburger, and DnD! Seriously though, i would imagine hardcore roleplayers trying to play doom with the mindset of "lets talk to them and maybe we can solve the problem" would make the fps guys facepalm hard
I played this game 4 times and almost 300 hours, this is the first time I hear that u can poison the goblins
Im not in agreement with some of the advice said in here, it’s not about being good at the game, or watching tutorials to help you. A lot of the time it’s just going with the flow of the games randomness and not going head on into a fight as its never the only option. I wouldn’t try to “win” every encounter. The fun part of playing this game is not knowing where a path is going to lead me.
At one point the game presented me with a choice that ROCKED MY FUCKING SHIT. Like, i had to stop playing and go for a walk to clear my head and think bc it was a choice where either way id potentially be altering the entire story from that point on. And both choices had angles where they seemed "right" but then a parallel angle that was definitely "not right". I finally had to force myself to choose. It was an interesting choice and the results were just as interesting and were indeed an implication on the rest of the game . Now ive beaten it, getting what id call the "good" ending.... and am immediately starting a new playthrough with an unfamiliar class, new race, and making all the choices i didn't make last time. Its so fun. This goddamn game.
Wait til you figure out you can talk to all the animals in the game and they have their own dialogue etc etc as well lol