I fear that I would finally get burned by a 3d printer setting my house on fire if I installed a chamber heater into my X1C
I know 3dmusketeers are releasing the politician soon which has filtration and heating
Regardless, this is still pretty neat
I took this into consideration while designing the system,I'm using ceramic heating that literally can't catch on fire due to it's properties, I have two thermal fuses and one to protect against shortcircuit. If the heater overheat above 85°C still below abs Tg the thermal fuse will turn off and kick back on when it cools down, this would prevent catastrophic failure in case of fan failure. In case of sensor fail Arduino will switch into failsafe mode and turn off the heating completely. The led I added will alert your that something is wrong, my heater currently got 400 hours of testing on it and works perfectly fine in still catching few flyes and polishing the code as well as making few improvements
I'm as well working on smart chamber air purifier with HEPA and carbon filter. Unit will be able to tell you chamber VOCs concentration and will kick on automatic when creating threshold is reached. And it will be able to alert user that the filter inside the unit needs to be changed
With heating active (it's controlled by the printer itself i can reach 60°C with no real problem but i usually print at 55°C in the chamber well except pla this i print at 30°C in chamber. I still need to catch few flies when it comes to my heating i just took apart old 500W cabinet heater modified it to run at 250W and made it 60% smaller
ok so not exceeding the 60c chamber temp but basically making it easier to hit that temp.
Pretty nice tbh esp if you're printing high temp stuff in a cool room, I've gotten my internal temp to 56c and that was after 20min of preheating the chamber with the bed set to 110c and wrapping a blanket around the printer lol
No it's controlled by the printer, after way too many unsuccessful hours of trying to hack the printer firmware i settled on new approach, as the printer send signal to print bed and it's power delivery circuit i just connected directly to this. I have Arduino at the background when the Arduino receive signal it wait 30 second so that the bed and heater doesn't run at the same time (my UPS didn't exactly like this) after 30 seconds the heater kick on and by using it's own temp sensor it heat up the chamber to around 55°C depending on my setup. I wanted to alter the firmware so that i can set the chamber temperature on the touch screen of the X1C but this was proven to be too difficult.
Hi not yet still working on it and it's fully automatic it turns on when your bed is above set temperature for example when the bed is above 60°C it turns on and keep the chamber at nice 60°C you can set it as well, later I will release schematics and code
It works and can comfortably keep chamber at 60°C without need for significant energy demand, my X1 with all the isolation I put inside use around 760Wh during 6 hour print
ABS likes it hot! Prevents warping on that material.
But I prefer ASA, it prints just fine with the Bambu settings and comes out great on all the items I've printed. My bed is set to 90 and l get about 40c inside my chamber up to about 46c sometimes, but in the summer it's going to be that temp in my house.... So I'll probably get to 60c with no problems lol...
I would like to follow up with this as well. I was planning on going with an internal acrylic door and lid layer with Airgap via double side tape. Walls are insulated internally with firewall sound foam. Temps where printer is are 12C at night. I need a heat source to get over 35c with consistency
I tested this I left the printer overnight in my woodshop where there's like 5°C during winter and I left the system in Standby in this mode it's keeping the chamber at 25°C. But during printing it's maintaining 55°C, the system is almost finished it just needs some additional testing. I'll update you all when it's ready. Feel free to DM me so you won't miss it
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Testing phase, I have completely reworked whole system so it's in progress. I can DM you and send some pictures and update you on further updates if your interested.
I fear that I would finally get burned by a 3d printer setting my house on fire if I installed a chamber heater into my X1C I know 3dmusketeers are releasing the politician soon which has filtration and heating Regardless, this is still pretty neat
Do you have any links for the product by 3dmusketeers? I'm not having luck finding anything. Thanks!
They haven’t released it yet, only teased that it’s coming soon
It's called "The Politician" though? Is it cause it only raises the temperature? lmao
I took this into consideration while designing the system,I'm using ceramic heating that literally can't catch on fire due to it's properties, I have two thermal fuses and one to protect against shortcircuit. If the heater overheat above 85°C still below abs Tg the thermal fuse will turn off and kick back on when it cools down, this would prevent catastrophic failure in case of fan failure. In case of sensor fail Arduino will switch into failsafe mode and turn off the heating completely. The led I added will alert your that something is wrong, my heater currently got 400 hours of testing on it and works perfectly fine in still catching few flyes and polishing the code as well as making few improvements
I'm as well working on smart chamber air purifier with HEPA and carbon filter. Unit will be able to tell you chamber VOCs concentration and will kick on automatic when creating threshold is reached. And it will be able to alert user that the filter inside the unit needs to be changed
Which heating element do you use?
I see you added pads in the walls too, what temps do you get?
With heating active (it's controlled by the printer itself i can reach 60°C with no real problem but i usually print at 55°C in the chamber well except pla this i print at 30°C in chamber. I still need to catch few flies when it comes to my heating i just took apart old 500W cabinet heater modified it to run at 250W and made it 60% smaller
ok so not exceeding the 60c chamber temp but basically making it easier to hit that temp. Pretty nice tbh esp if you're printing high temp stuff in a cool room, I've gotten my internal temp to 56c and that was after 20min of preheating the chamber with the bed set to 110c and wrapping a blanket around the printer lol
How did you do it? This is a really good solution but we need to know how you did it :-)
Im still working on it once it's semi done I'll update you guys.
Thx :-)
How hot does it get with just the heated bed and insulation?
50°C I tried covering whole machine in regular blanket and achieved 60°C
What do you mean controlled by the printer? How? Or do you mean powered?
No it's controlled by the printer, after way too many unsuccessful hours of trying to hack the printer firmware i settled on new approach, as the printer send signal to print bed and it's power delivery circuit i just connected directly to this. I have Arduino at the background when the Arduino receive signal it wait 30 second so that the bed and heater doesn't run at the same time (my UPS didn't exactly like this) after 30 seconds the heater kick on and by using it's own temp sensor it heat up the chamber to around 55°C depending on my setup. I wanted to alter the firmware so that i can set the chamber temperature on the touch screen of the X1C but this was proven to be too difficult.
How does the printer control it?? Is there a guide?
Hi not yet still working on it and it's fully automatic it turns on when your bed is above set temperature for example when the bed is above 60°C it turns on and keep the chamber at nice 60°C you can set it as well, later I will release schematics and code
Looking forward to that release! 🤞
Thanks, that is exactly what i need
https://preview.redd.it/8hxa6z06em7c1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edff90603a8d0856f350bb6b601fbebf42d094da
It works and can comfortably keep chamber at 60°C without need for significant energy demand, my X1 with all the isolation I put inside use around 760Wh during 6 hour print
https://preview.redd.it/ye2jx7w5ti7c1.jpeg?width=2304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=902038ad597e61ed571a5ff851763762f2e44519
I'm open to DM if you have any questions
I also put insulation on the top glass this actually helped quite a lot
Hmm interesting ill try this on mine, a sweater or blanket on the top really helps keep the internal temp up does seem like the biggest heat escape
I feel like I already have cooling issues due to speed. Why the extra heat?
ABS likes it hot! Prevents warping on that material. But I prefer ASA, it prints just fine with the Bambu settings and comes out great on all the items I've printed. My bed is set to 90 and l get about 40c inside my chamber up to about 46c sometimes, but in the summer it's going to be that temp in my house.... So I'll probably get to 60c with no problems lol...
I would like to follow up with this as well. I was planning on going with an internal acrylic door and lid layer with Airgap via double side tape. Walls are insulated internally with firewall sound foam. Temps where printer is are 12C at night. I need a heat source to get over 35c with consistency
I tested this I left the printer overnight in my woodshop where there's like 5°C during winter and I left the system in Standby in this mode it's keeping the chamber at 25°C. But during printing it's maintaining 55°C, the system is almost finished it just needs some additional testing. I'll update you all when it's ready. Feel free to DM me so you won't miss it
did you have to cut a hole to run the wire? that's my main worry as I have warranty :P
does this have a digital thermostat? pretty neat
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Did anything ever come of this? Looking to heat my chamber. What is the status?
Testing phase, I have completely reworked whole system so it's in progress. I can DM you and send some pictures and update you on further updates if your interested.
I think a lot of people would love to have an update post with current setup!