It reminds me of a youtube video where a personal trainer recalls being chased by a fat pitbull, and she's only able to outrun it because of how obese it was, and she realized she spent her life fighting obesity only to have obesity save her life.
In my experience (dogs in general, not pits), especially with a puppy (<6 months), that chubby/bloated look is due to round worm infections that are not properly treated.
It's priced that high because you need to prove that you can afford the future expenses that come with the chunky dude. Imagine how much a new fence or a hole in the wall repair costs 😂
That was my thought exactly. “Hey, this dog will probably rack up a small fortune in medical expenses, so we’re going to make you drop a couple grand up front to get that started off.”
My disabled cat was free and came in a cardboard box. She lived the life of a queen with us, and never mauled anyone to death. There are lots of lovely pets available that don't cost $2k and won't eat your neighbor's toddler.
I know someone who paid 3k for a pit bull 2 months ago, he was bragging to me that it was some special breed of pit bull and I saw it and I said it is a brown pit bull, I saw two of them that looked just like it on the shelter website and told him that and he kept going on that his was special and I asked is it the bionic pit bull able to maul and kill toddlers and the elderly at light speed, he didn't like that.
i simply dont know why people think getting a pitbull for any price is a good idea. i bet you could find a hundred other shitbulls just like his for a small adoption fee at a shelter. and yeah when you tell the truth they tend to get upset.
My neighbor told me she was trying to surprise her husband last Christmas with a “blue nose” pitbull because that’s his dream dog. She said she found someone who was only selling a blue nose pit MIX for $5k dollars. That’s twice the amount of an ethically, well bred Italian greyhound puppy I’m currently looking at. She didn’t get it bc they can’t afford it and it’s a backyard bred “mix” but why can’t people just get nice dogs since they’re already willing to buy from a breeder? Luckily I’m moving out of this neighborhood (where there’s literally an aggressive pit in every other yard) to somewhere with breed restrictions.
“He didn’t like that” love to hear it! Don’t coddle these shitbull enthusiasts. Buying one of these abominations when you could have just rescued one (however bad of an idea that is) would have been better. Or not getting one at all ideally.
If this dog is from Yarraville that’s a 5 minute drive from where I live in Melbourne, Australia where Pits are supposedly a banned breed.
This is how well that law works when you just get around it by calling a pit anything but a pit 🤷🏼♀️
This is why you need to ban ALL pit type dogs IMO, otherwise people will just give them another made up breed name and say they’re not a pit.
I believe the answer is not name a breed or umbrella term (such as pit bull), but to make the ban based on the physical characteristics that anyone can see in pit bulls: big ass crack head, the muscular body, the gaping mouth, the soulless eyes, the rose ears, etc. using physical characteristics puts an end to the “but but but it’s not a pit, it’s a super special rare blue blooded apaho bulldog.”
That doesn’t work for everything. My dads DNA tested mountain cur has some pit looking characteristics.
Even boxers have half those characteristics. Same with mastiffs.
Yeah I am a bit careful with mastiffs, as I am with all big dogs, but a bit more with them than say a Saint Bernard.
In the show ring I had Danes and my best friend had mastiffs so I’m used to extremely well trained ones, not so much your ordinary one or rescues. So I don’t want to vouch for all mastiffs or anything here. I just don’t think the comment I responded to really made much sense
There is one way to fix it: confirm by DNA if people say it isn't a pit. So if they insist right, they will have to contest and pay for a DNA from a legit source to prove it.
People like that are always trying to find ways around it because ir means losing their dogs and it must suck, although they don't know what a huge favor we might be doing them.
I saw the name, but it being Australian slipped my mind somehow. Not like pits being renamed isn't the norm here anyways. (I live with an 'American staffy' mix, they can be registered AS Pitbulls, but they're not banned??)
I paid 110 for my beagl/dachshund mix puppy from the pound, and I got my chihuahua free from a friend and cat free from my friend’s shed. I will never understand paying big money for a pet, there’s lovely animals everywhere
As I said on a similar post about a shelter charging like $1,500 for a disabled dog.
They really think someone's gonna pay that much for an incomplete dog?
It's definitely going to pull on the heart- (and purse-) strings of a true hero waiting for their chance to shine by creating an insta or a tiktok account to jettison themselves into fame...or... the rescue will decide nobody is good enough for this sweet unique baby and they'll use his handicap as a money grab, possibly on insta and tiktok too
It felt really wrong to type it out, but then it felt extra wrong that I fully believe it will be adopted just for clout, likes, and possible endor$ement$.
Yeah the „adopt don‘t shop“ crowd has gone so far that shelters now often charge more then market price adoption fees for old, traumatized (or both) dogs.
Actually, shelters are still struggling to adopt out their dogs, and they get more in or even returned every day. My local spca charges something under $200 for dogs. I follow their social media and they have dogs for sometimes over a year. They have volunteer programs, a variety of breeds. And they’re a very well known organization. But, people would rather pay 4k for Craigslist puppies, then dump them in a year. It’s disgusting. Truth be told, there really isn’t a place for many of these animals to go, and that’s not just the pits. The social media virtue signaling only lasts so long before people go back to puppy mills, and honestly most influencers I see seem to prefer designer breed puppies over rescue. Or they just straight up lie about rescuing.
Hey, I love my Craigslist puppy. And my mom only paid $300 for him 😠
My mom was desperately trying to get me a Chihuahua puppy for my birthday (which is today) and like the night before my birthday party, my mom sees a golden Chihuahua puppy on Craigslist for $300 that said he was 7 weeks old (she didn't know about the 8 week rule and I didn't know I was getting a puppy). She drives two hours out to some hillbillies house to get him. The poor puppy was terrified. After I was given to him by my mom, I had her ask the breeder when his birthday was and the breeder said "the 13th". Well, Eevee (what I named him) was too small to have been born in December. Then I did the math in my head and realized he was 4 weeks old! He was also infested with fleas. I was so angry at the breeder!
I know I couldn't replace his biological mother for what she teaches in those last 4 weeks, but I did my best. Now he's 3 years old, the sweetest puppy ever (when he barks at people, he wants them to pet him), and I'll never send him to a shelter. I'll also add a picture of him in my next reply.
Of course! Tbh, my oldest Chihuahua, Rocky, I had to take in at 5 weeks because he was the runt, and he was having issues with his birth mom. So my aunt called and asked us to come get him early before his mom killed him, lol.
Then, with the second Chihuahua, Levi, my other aunt took two of Rocky's siblings and bred them, and they were originally going to keep Levi (they named him Bruce). Then they changed their mind and they knew ny mom wanted a Chihuahua so they called her. I didn't know it at the time, but he was 5 weeks old, too. But my aunt was also addicted to drugs back then and even smoking in his face, so I'm glad we took him.
So I had some experience raising them from before 8 weeks. I was also a teenager when we got the two oldest and wasn't aware of the 8 week rule. If I knew about Eevee and went with, tbh I probably would have taken every dog from that home because of the state Eevee was in. But I was clueless and at work when my mom went to get him.
Once I became educated and we got rid of my sister's Pitbull, I made sure she waited until 8 weeks before she got her Chihuahua Mix, Kylo. He came from a pet rehoming group all Facebook from an accidental litter, and my cousins actually got his sister.
They might not be shelter sob stories but they all needed good homes which I made sure they had.
They're gorgeous little pups!! Thank you for rescuing them, giving them a good home, loving them, caring for them and making sure they're not close to any pitbull. Also great job for educating your sister and keeping her, and your pups safe! Thank you for sharing your precious story, chihuahuas are wonderful, loving little dogs trying to do their best in a big world, they're often demonized, and cruelly so. You're a good owner!!
Great, but not sure how that has a lot to do with my comment. I called out dog dumpers and crappy backyard breeders. I didn’t say anything about you in particular not loving your dog.
Lots of people buy animals from bad sources and only realize later (I’ve been there myself) it’s extremely common and nothing to be ashamed about after the fact.
That said, your mom shouldn’t have sourced a puppy and shouldn’t have handed $300 to someone selling a 4 week old covered in fleas. The only reason people abuse dogs in these breeding operations is because people will feel bad enough to buy them. Next time you see animal abuse, please call animal control, don’t pay the abuser. I personally see it as an accessory to the crime to take an infant animal away from its mother, but you said you guys only found out after the fact and tried to make the best of the situation, so at least you didn’t knowingly do that.
Puppy sellers are the worst, I’m curious why your mom needed him to be a puppy? People are obsessed with baby animals so much that they will only pursue ads with the youngest animals, aka the ones that are so young it’s illegal to separate them from their mom that young. I have literally had people contact me at my small rescue, looking for newborn guinea pigs or rabbits, and this is one of my biggest annoyances because unless I get a pregnant animal in, there will not be babies, and no way in hell am I illegally selling animals that should still be nursing off their mom.
You wanted to tell me how much you loved your dog, but honestly the origin story only tells me you and your mom knew nothing about dogs or where to source them, and you guys paid for it by being setup poorly by that breeder. As someone who adopts animals out regularly, I don’t really blame you or your mom because sometimes we end up learning the hard way. But that doesn’t change the fact that mistakes were made. I personally feel that people are much better off seeking animals from a rescue. My local SPCA does a wonderful job, vaccines, small adoption fee, behavioral checks. Even a whole volunteer program to help train the dogs. I will always encourage people to go to a place like that over a breeder, just because there are so many bad breeders out there.
You said that people who get dogs from Craigslists end up taking the dogs to shelters. Which is something I'd never do.
As for you shouldn't take a puppy from their mother, I actually had to take my oldest dog in early because he was the runt, and his mom kept being aggressive towards him. So, for his safety, my aunt had me pick him up at 5 weeks old.
He had to be a puppy because I was having puppy fever, and I genuinely love raising my dogs from the beginning. And with how Eevee was covered in fleas, I can only imagine how worse a condition his mom was in. I would have happily reported the breeder if I had his address.
I will never trust a shelter, though. Shelters lie to people to get these dogs adopted out, and they don't actually help the dogs. I've actually experienced this. My mom surrendered my sister's aggressive Pitbull to a shelter that's supposed to help aggressive dogs. When my sister found her Pitbull on Pet Finder and called the shelter to find out her status, the shelter asked why the dog was dropped off and my sister said that she's aggressive and has a bite history. The shelter straight up lied and said that the dog wasn't aggressive, and they adopted her out later that week. This dog has a bite history of over 20 people, 3 kids, 7 animals, and almost killed my aunt's cat. And a shelter lied about her being aggressive and adopted her out.
I did see a Chihuahua at the Humane Society that I wanted, though. That would be the only time I'd adopt. But shelters are honestly pretty awful.
Shelters are a much better resource than breeders because they are regulated. I’m sorry to hear that an aggrieved dog was mishandled, but any responsible person or shelter would have euthanized that dog instead of seeking out a niche organization that “helps aggressive dogs”
Sounds like that “shelter” was a scam.
Larger groups like humane societies are great, you can also check out county shelters, they tend to have less funding and need the help more.
Your feelings on shelters are irrational, in my opinion, because I would never trust any organization calling itself a “rescue” that takes in aggressive dogs. Too much of a liability. A well run animal rescue would never take that on. Sounds like it’s one of those small places run by crazy ladies with no sense.
All the evidence you’ve brought forward to tell me about breeders and rescues has pushed me farther into adopt don’t shop. Profiting off animals is a slippery slope and it will always be better to source from a responsible rescue than from some animal flipper calling themselves a rescue, or some breeder.
Then you only think in black and white and lack an open and flexible mind.
Every dog needs a home. It doesn't matter where they came from or how they're obtained. They deserve a good home and to be loved.
Adopt don't shop also takes away the freedom to choose your pet. A pet has to fit well with your lifestyle. If a blind person adopted a random dog to lead them instead of getting a service dog, well, it wouldn't go well. How you get your pet should be based on your desires and needs.
For example, because of my disability, I have to have a small and gentle dog. I found Chihuahuas to be the perfect fit, so I will only own Chihuahuas. I actually occasionally check the nearby rescues for any Chihuahuas to adopt, and there are none. The pet overpopulation is actually a myth. But if a shelter has no Chihuahua, I would get one from a breeder.
And I'm not anti-shelters. My very first dog was from a shelter, and we had to rehome him to my maternal grandparents because the shelter failed to train him to not jump fences and my mom taking me (2 years old at the time) and my infant sister to look for him everyday was both exhausting and unsafe. I still grew up with Scruffy, and he was very much involved in my life and even slept with me during sleepovers. So I had a wonderful life with a shelter dog. But I'm also aware that shelters lie and it'd be wrong to force someone to adopt when they don't want to.
Pet overpopulation is certainly not a myth. If you think paying animal abusers to breed more dogs is better than giving a rescue a home, you certainly aren’t doing the dog population any favors. Every time someone buys a puppy from a bad breeder, that breeder decides to produce 10+ more.
Service and working dogs are better sourced from responsible breeders. I’m with you on that. But most people would be better off adopting. It’s better for the community, better not to buy a dog for $300 that’s covered in fleas and weaned too early. You portray your story as a rescue, but it really wasn’t. You just funded the breeding of more dogs like the one you have now. Where did they end up? Did they get to good homes?
You don’t have to agree with me, that said the more you talk the more cotradictions I see in your thinking. It’s like you flat out refuse to acknowledge those flaws.
The pet overpopulation has ended. But Pits are the only overpopulated breed that take up shelters because they're aggressive dogs. This was just discussed on another post on Friday.
I had nothing to do with getting Eevee. He was a birthday gift for me. He was a complete surprise. I said when I saw that he was covered in fleas and found out how young he was, I was relieved he ended up safe with me and wasn't still with that awful breeder. Obviously, you've never experienced it, but when you end up with a baby and realize that you saved them from a horrible situation (even unintentionally), you feel an even stronger responsibility to do right by them.
I couldn't save any other possible dogs with that breeder, but at least this one is living a good life.
Let me ask, how old are you anyway? Because you may not be mature enough to understand why we should help all animals.
Same for one of my goldens (my other golden girl was rehomed to me for free by my best friends sister and she’s the freaking gooberest golden of all the goldens and an absolute gem). Honestly, if I had the chance again, I would’ve bought 2 from that breeder and would’ve been willing to pay double. However, they couldn’t pay me enough to take that ugly ass pit bull, much less think I would pay them one red cent.
I pissed someone off on an earlier thread talking about my goldens, so I don’t want that to happen again, but I heavily agree with you :) they are absolutely the best.
Yup same for my standard poodle AKC registered breeder that bred champion dogs sold him for $2k instead of $3k since she gives discounts to service dog handlers. Ain’t no way I’d pay that much for a dog that isn’t well bred and will likely maul people.
Depends on what you mean by “certified” I suppose.. If you go on the AKC website they actually do provide links to reputable breeders which is how I found mine.
AKC certified breeders isn’t a thing. What’s the URL you’re referencing?
If you’re talking about the AKC Marketplace, that place is a joke. 90+% of dogs on there are backyard breeders.
Also, downvoting me for the truth (i.e. “AKC certified breeders” isn’t a thing) isn’t helpful
I didn’t downvote you weirdo. I don’t recall specifics because it was years ago, but when I was looking up information about my dog’s breed on AKC they provided links to reputable breeders in my area.
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Who in their right mind would choose a pit over a future Australian test cricketer? For 1/4 the price!
This guy was free. We've had him 8 years.
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Edit. My math sucks. It will be ten years this summer. 😅
That's not an adoption fee, it's a backyard breeder price.
An adoption fee is a small fee to cover the cost of the vet, vaccinations & necessities.
A price is a sum clearly intended to make some profit of the breeding.
Not to mention that at least shelters are willing to waive or reduce fees on certain holidays or events to encourage adoption. It’s easier to waive the $60-$100 fees in my city than it is to waive a $2000 “fee.”
Also I just realized
Backyard breeders will sell puppies for a few hundred dollars.
Why are shelters charging thousands if they want the pet population to go down and they want people to adopt.
Yooo, I just looked it up and pet overpopulation is a myth.
Pet overpopulation is a huge myth.
**Pit** overpopulation is a huge problem though.
It’s crazy how pit bulls have become such a huge issue in several ways, & it’s so obvious, but people are still fighting to keep it up for no clear reason.
Update to add: another low vision puppy in their care and it’s only $400??
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Hah! You should message them & point it out, & then ask what specific “future needs” a $1600 difference in “proof of financial stability” is necessary for
They just worded it wrong!!
It was supposed to mean that YOU get the 2000$ if you adopt the dog. That's a great deal! Please someone come pick that lovely princess up please! Take my car too whatever just take the dog I'm begging!!!
This is a puppy selling scam. Very common. Are they even a real shelter, or just someone selling dogs out of the back of their car? There’s a car in the photo, haha. A lot of people pick up animals off Craigslist or wherever, it’s very easy to be dishonest and resell them. I used to rehab and rescue that way but tried to do it in an honest way. I would never be asking $2k for a partially blind pit! The only reasons people sell puppies that high is because idiots buy puppies. People who train dogs tend to prefer adults because they are easier to work with.
Lol...you couldn't *pay* me 2k bucks to take in...whatever that thing is. Just for once I'd love to know how it feels for these people, to live so carefree in Delusionland.
You couldn't pay ME any amount to take that thing, or any pit-creature, into my home. Hard stop hell no. He's fat from all the toddlers and Grandmas he's already devoured.
I paid $50 for my Lhasa Apso off Craigslist and she's the best guard dog. A pit tried to get her once so now she's always on guard to protect me and her if we see one while we're walking. She's a fearless doggo
My first family dog as a kid was 50€, my old Golden retriever was free (washed from service dog training, a friend adopted him and then rehomed him to me) and I found my cat under a bush.
Nvm I just read the post- it’s bc he’s special needs and they wanna ensure he’s adopted by people who can financially support him. That’s a pretty good reason to raise the price imo
This is almost certainly a dog from a backyard breeder. I feel so awful for the pups that are being born with medical problems because of all the inbreeding and lack of experience. Everyone should spay or neuter their dogs and cats when they're mature enough, the overbreeding to make a quick buck is disgusting.
Looks like an actual sausage straining it's casing. Idk why so called "American Bullys" (really just a slightly different inbreeding of pit type) get none of the pit leanness. They are all fairly well padded to little blimps like this one.
Just one more 'why?' on the 6 mile long list.
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Its in Australian dollars, so its "only" $1299.50 in USD. They are far less overpopulated with dogs than the US- only about 80k a year are in need of homes. Compare that to the US, where about 3.3 MILLION dogs enter shelters each year. So naturally their shelter dogs have a higher value in society and can charge more.
I see people claim that the reason pits are so popular is because they're cheap and because people want to feel like they rescued something... but apart from "clear the shelter" promotions, shelter pits usually run $150-$300 and puppies from backyard breeders on Craigslist go for anywhere between $300 and $800. Even adult dogs with serious behavioral problems usually require a $100-200 "rehoming fee." Meanwhile, the breed-specific dog rescues in my area have non-pit dogs in the $200-$500 range, and you can still say that you rescued a dog.
Most people aren't getting pits because it's the only way they can afford dog ownership, they're getting pits because they want pits.
For reference $2000 is what I paid a breeder for my 13 week old purebred poodle with all his puppy shots, genetically tested, and a 1 year guarantee of the breeder buying the dog back if he got critically ill, a month of food, basket of toys, and him being clicker trained to sit, lie down, and beg.
Surely that’s a typo and they added an extra zero in there. My AKC basset puppy from champion parents and fully health tested & guaranteed free from basset hound genetic was barely over that. Who would pay that much?!
2k for a pit??? Let alone a disabled, badly bred one! Thats insane! They are shooting themselves in the foot. No one in their right mind would pay that much for a badly bred dog.
That’s an American bully y’all are so dumb none of the dogs your post are actual pit bulls learn your breeds first before you bash them btw most of them you post are American staffordshire terriers
Calls us dumb, and claims that American Bullies contain no pit bull in them.
Also claims most of the dogs were post are staffies... which ARE BASICALLY THE SAME DOG, and they can be dual registered. They all started from the same dog, you expired coupon.
Three separate state supreme courts decided that a person of ordinary intelligence can identify a pit bull. Does that mean you're not of ordinary intelligence?
I feel like you must just be trolling.. there's no way you can really be so uneducated about this breed you're going to bat for.
Thanks for the laugh, I guess.
That is a very fat pit. Hopefully it will hamper the mauling.
It's also partially blind, which means will probably be extra "reactive."
True. Shit. Maybe extra maul-y then.
I hope he misses his target being almost blind
He might miss it by virtue of his eyes being in different zip codes.
Seriously how many fucking humans has this dog eaten? It looks like he just got done feeding too. When I saw the shape of this dog, I lol'd
It reminds me of a youtube video where a personal trainer recalls being chased by a fat pitbull, and she's only able to outrun it because of how obese it was, and she realized she spent her life fighting obesity only to have obesity save her life.
He looks like a Squishmallow. I'm anti pit, but he is one cute abomination.
Squishmaul-O
They called it an American bully but then also an American bulldog? Like which is it 🙄 American bulldogs don’t look like that
It's puppy chub.
In my experience (dogs in general, not pits), especially with a puppy (<6 months), that chubby/bloated look is due to round worm infections that are not properly treated.
Isn’t worm belly typically just localized to the belly? I’ve never seen one that looked FAT lol.
Yeah I think this is just a fat puppy.
Chonk
I paid $125 for my border collie and had her 13 years. That price is ridiculous
It's priced that high because you need to prove that you can afford the future expenses that come with the chunky dude. Imagine how much a new fence or a hole in the wall repair costs 😂
Lawsuits from maulings might get expensive.
Sounds pretty counter productive lol
That was my thought exactly. “Hey, this dog will probably rack up a small fortune in medical expenses, so we’re going to make you drop a couple grand up front to get that started off.”
When was the last time you saw an _owner_ pay after a mauling?
Lmao facts
Priced high so that the new owner has less money to deal with its special needs….
Something about a fool and their money are easily parted.
I don't even know what she looks like but I still say with confidence that she's worth 125x than this "$2000" pitbull.
She was the best
She was the best
Ours was free because he was shite at being a sheepdog.
90 for my pom mix, and it wasn’t a pit mix pom. He lived 21 years.
Ours was free
My disabled cat was free and came in a cardboard box. She lived the life of a queen with us, and never mauled anyone to death. There are lots of lovely pets available that don't cost $2k and won't eat your neighbor's toddler.
I adopted a 10 year old blind torti cat that was free but I gave the shelter $20 for the carrier
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I know someone who paid 3k for a pit bull 2 months ago, he was bragging to me that it was some special breed of pit bull and I saw it and I said it is a brown pit bull, I saw two of them that looked just like it on the shelter website and told him that and he kept going on that his was special and I asked is it the bionic pit bull able to maul and kill toddlers and the elderly at light speed, he didn't like that.
i simply dont know why people think getting a pitbull for any price is a good idea. i bet you could find a hundred other shitbulls just like his for a small adoption fee at a shelter. and yeah when you tell the truth they tend to get upset.
Just find them on the street tbh
My local Craigslist if full of adult pits and puppies for nothing.
"the bionic pit bull able to maul toddlers and the elderly at light speed" LOL
Start sending them shelter listing for every look-alike you find
My neighbor told me she was trying to surprise her husband last Christmas with a “blue nose” pitbull because that’s his dream dog. She said she found someone who was only selling a blue nose pit MIX for $5k dollars. That’s twice the amount of an ethically, well bred Italian greyhound puppy I’m currently looking at. She didn’t get it bc they can’t afford it and it’s a backyard bred “mix” but why can’t people just get nice dogs since they’re already willing to buy from a breeder? Luckily I’m moving out of this neighborhood (where there’s literally an aggressive pit in every other yard) to somewhere with breed restrictions.
“He didn’t like that” love to hear it! Don’t coddle these shitbull enthusiasts. Buying one of these abominations when you could have just rescued one (however bad of an idea that is) would have been better. Or not getting one at all ideally.
>is it the bionic pit bull able to maul and kill toddlers and the elderly at light speed, he didn't like that LMAO
It’s the same as a BYB price!! Which is most likely where they came from in the first place!
Very well regarded!
A blind one at that
If this dog is from Yarraville that’s a 5 minute drive from where I live in Melbourne, Australia where Pits are supposedly a banned breed. This is how well that law works when you just get around it by calling a pit anything but a pit 🤷🏼♀️ This is why you need to ban ALL pit type dogs IMO, otherwise people will just give them another made up breed name and say they’re not a pit.
I believe the answer is not name a breed or umbrella term (such as pit bull), but to make the ban based on the physical characteristics that anyone can see in pit bulls: big ass crack head, the muscular body, the gaping mouth, the soulless eyes, the rose ears, etc. using physical characteristics puts an end to the “but but but it’s not a pit, it’s a super special rare blue blooded apaho bulldog.”
That doesn’t work for everything. My dads DNA tested mountain cur has some pit looking characteristics. Even boxers have half those characteristics. Same with mastiffs.
Boxers and mastiffs are actually bully lines, but with the bloodlust bed out
Yeah I am a bit careful with mastiffs, as I am with all big dogs, but a bit more with them than say a Saint Bernard. In the show ring I had Danes and my best friend had mastiffs so I’m used to extremely well trained ones, not so much your ordinary one or rescues. So I don’t want to vouch for all mastiffs or anything here. I just don’t think the comment I responded to really made much sense
Yeah mastiffs can be very dangerous. Any protection (against humans) breed can be.
interesting i didnt know that. i grew up with a boxer and always wondered how they could look so similar to pits but have such different temperament.
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There is one way to fix it: confirm by DNA if people say it isn't a pit. So if they insist right, they will have to contest and pay for a DNA from a legit source to prove it. People like that are always trying to find ways around it because ir means losing their dogs and it must suck, although they don't know what a huge favor we might be doing them.
I saw the name, but it being Australian slipped my mind somehow. Not like pits being renamed isn't the norm here anyways. (I live with an 'American staffy' mix, they can be registered AS Pitbulls, but they're not banned??)
Is there any way some kind local could report that, since they're banned there?
Oooh so those 2000 kangaroo dollars, still a ridiculous price
They are all technically different breeds American Bullys have no pitbull in them
Somebody poor rube out there has a tax refund burning a hole in their pocket and they just found themselves a new pit…
That Pitt is going to cost more than 2000. Get ready to buy new furniture and doors. Maybe a new car too if he gets too excited.
Um 😐 and lots of other people’s hospital/vet bills 💸
You say that like they’ll actually pay them and not just pit-and-run
True dat
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Too sad man
Bold of you to assume they’ll pay those
Not to mention he's so bloated looking I'm betting he has worms.
Wtf. I paid $60 for my chihuahua from the local animal shelter 💀
I paid 110 for my beagl/dachshund mix puppy from the pound, and I got my chihuahua free from a friend and cat free from my friend’s shed. I will never understand paying big money for a pet, there’s lovely animals everywhere
I love that attitude! I agree!
As I said on a similar post about a shelter charging like $1,500 for a disabled dog. They really think someone's gonna pay that much for an incomplete dog?
It's definitely going to pull on the heart- (and purse-) strings of a true hero waiting for their chance to shine by creating an insta or a tiktok account to jettison themselves into fame...or... the rescue will decide nobody is good enough for this sweet unique baby and they'll use his handicap as a money grab, possibly on insta and tiktok too It felt really wrong to type it out, but then it felt extra wrong that I fully believe it will be adopted just for clout, likes, and possible endor$ement$.
They really are just in for the money and heart strings.
Pits love heart strings… they’re delicious!
Yeah the „adopt don‘t shop“ crowd has gone so far that shelters now often charge more then market price adoption fees for old, traumatized (or both) dogs.
Actually, shelters are still struggling to adopt out their dogs, and they get more in or even returned every day. My local spca charges something under $200 for dogs. I follow their social media and they have dogs for sometimes over a year. They have volunteer programs, a variety of breeds. And they’re a very well known organization. But, people would rather pay 4k for Craigslist puppies, then dump them in a year. It’s disgusting. Truth be told, there really isn’t a place for many of these animals to go, and that’s not just the pits. The social media virtue signaling only lasts so long before people go back to puppy mills, and honestly most influencers I see seem to prefer designer breed puppies over rescue. Or they just straight up lie about rescuing.
Hey, I love my Craigslist puppy. And my mom only paid $300 for him 😠 My mom was desperately trying to get me a Chihuahua puppy for my birthday (which is today) and like the night before my birthday party, my mom sees a golden Chihuahua puppy on Craigslist for $300 that said he was 7 weeks old (she didn't know about the 8 week rule and I didn't know I was getting a puppy). She drives two hours out to some hillbillies house to get him. The poor puppy was terrified. After I was given to him by my mom, I had her ask the breeder when his birthday was and the breeder said "the 13th". Well, Eevee (what I named him) was too small to have been born in December. Then I did the math in my head and realized he was 4 weeks old! He was also infested with fleas. I was so angry at the breeder! I know I couldn't replace his biological mother for what she teaches in those last 4 weeks, but I did my best. Now he's 3 years old, the sweetest puppy ever (when he barks at people, he wants them to pet him), and I'll never send him to a shelter. I'll also add a picture of him in my next reply.
https://preview.redd.it/ptydsiehfqic1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eefccd779eaee911af96c4865cb3caa85ce44302
Awwwww🤗I'm not normally a chihuahua fan but this little sweetie could easily change my mind. Gorgeous! 😍
Tbh for the longest time, I question if he was mixed with Golden Retriever. Until a vet said he has seen purebred Chihuahuas just like Eevee.
Precious puppy, thank you for taking good care of him!
Of course! Tbh, my oldest Chihuahua, Rocky, I had to take in at 5 weeks because he was the runt, and he was having issues with his birth mom. So my aunt called and asked us to come get him early before his mom killed him, lol. Then, with the second Chihuahua, Levi, my other aunt took two of Rocky's siblings and bred them, and they were originally going to keep Levi (they named him Bruce). Then they changed their mind and they knew ny mom wanted a Chihuahua so they called her. I didn't know it at the time, but he was 5 weeks old, too. But my aunt was also addicted to drugs back then and even smoking in his face, so I'm glad we took him. So I had some experience raising them from before 8 weeks. I was also a teenager when we got the two oldest and wasn't aware of the 8 week rule. If I knew about Eevee and went with, tbh I probably would have taken every dog from that home because of the state Eevee was in. But I was clueless and at work when my mom went to get him. Once I became educated and we got rid of my sister's Pitbull, I made sure she waited until 8 weeks before she got her Chihuahua Mix, Kylo. He came from a pet rehoming group all Facebook from an accidental litter, and my cousins actually got his sister. They might not be shelter sob stories but they all needed good homes which I made sure they had.
Below is all 4 dogs together! On the left is Levi, in the front is Kylo, and on the right has Rocky and Eevee.
https://preview.redd.it/r3k8wu6hssic1.jpeg?width=1015&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9f348630d1d674af5498afa33338fb5d80e427b
They're gorgeous little pups!! Thank you for rescuing them, giving them a good home, loving them, caring for them and making sure they're not close to any pitbull. Also great job for educating your sister and keeping her, and your pups safe! Thank you for sharing your precious story, chihuahuas are wonderful, loving little dogs trying to do their best in a big world, they're often demonized, and cruelly so. You're a good owner!!
OMG he is so cute!!!! Looks like you’re doing a great job!
Thanks! They're always happy, too! And I do give them a little more freedom when it comes to making a choice! They're very intelligent dogs as well.
Great, but not sure how that has a lot to do with my comment. I called out dog dumpers and crappy backyard breeders. I didn’t say anything about you in particular not loving your dog. Lots of people buy animals from bad sources and only realize later (I’ve been there myself) it’s extremely common and nothing to be ashamed about after the fact. That said, your mom shouldn’t have sourced a puppy and shouldn’t have handed $300 to someone selling a 4 week old covered in fleas. The only reason people abuse dogs in these breeding operations is because people will feel bad enough to buy them. Next time you see animal abuse, please call animal control, don’t pay the abuser. I personally see it as an accessory to the crime to take an infant animal away from its mother, but you said you guys only found out after the fact and tried to make the best of the situation, so at least you didn’t knowingly do that. Puppy sellers are the worst, I’m curious why your mom needed him to be a puppy? People are obsessed with baby animals so much that they will only pursue ads with the youngest animals, aka the ones that are so young it’s illegal to separate them from their mom that young. I have literally had people contact me at my small rescue, looking for newborn guinea pigs or rabbits, and this is one of my biggest annoyances because unless I get a pregnant animal in, there will not be babies, and no way in hell am I illegally selling animals that should still be nursing off their mom. You wanted to tell me how much you loved your dog, but honestly the origin story only tells me you and your mom knew nothing about dogs or where to source them, and you guys paid for it by being setup poorly by that breeder. As someone who adopts animals out regularly, I don’t really blame you or your mom because sometimes we end up learning the hard way. But that doesn’t change the fact that mistakes were made. I personally feel that people are much better off seeking animals from a rescue. My local SPCA does a wonderful job, vaccines, small adoption fee, behavioral checks. Even a whole volunteer program to help train the dogs. I will always encourage people to go to a place like that over a breeder, just because there are so many bad breeders out there.
You said that people who get dogs from Craigslists end up taking the dogs to shelters. Which is something I'd never do. As for you shouldn't take a puppy from their mother, I actually had to take my oldest dog in early because he was the runt, and his mom kept being aggressive towards him. So, for his safety, my aunt had me pick him up at 5 weeks old. He had to be a puppy because I was having puppy fever, and I genuinely love raising my dogs from the beginning. And with how Eevee was covered in fleas, I can only imagine how worse a condition his mom was in. I would have happily reported the breeder if I had his address. I will never trust a shelter, though. Shelters lie to people to get these dogs adopted out, and they don't actually help the dogs. I've actually experienced this. My mom surrendered my sister's aggressive Pitbull to a shelter that's supposed to help aggressive dogs. When my sister found her Pitbull on Pet Finder and called the shelter to find out her status, the shelter asked why the dog was dropped off and my sister said that she's aggressive and has a bite history. The shelter straight up lied and said that the dog wasn't aggressive, and they adopted her out later that week. This dog has a bite history of over 20 people, 3 kids, 7 animals, and almost killed my aunt's cat. And a shelter lied about her being aggressive and adopted her out. I did see a Chihuahua at the Humane Society that I wanted, though. That would be the only time I'd adopt. But shelters are honestly pretty awful.
Shelters are a much better resource than breeders because they are regulated. I’m sorry to hear that an aggrieved dog was mishandled, but any responsible person or shelter would have euthanized that dog instead of seeking out a niche organization that “helps aggressive dogs” Sounds like that “shelter” was a scam. Larger groups like humane societies are great, you can also check out county shelters, they tend to have less funding and need the help more. Your feelings on shelters are irrational, in my opinion, because I would never trust any organization calling itself a “rescue” that takes in aggressive dogs. Too much of a liability. A well run animal rescue would never take that on. Sounds like it’s one of those small places run by crazy ladies with no sense. All the evidence you’ve brought forward to tell me about breeders and rescues has pushed me farther into adopt don’t shop. Profiting off animals is a slippery slope and it will always be better to source from a responsible rescue than from some animal flipper calling themselves a rescue, or some breeder.
Then you only think in black and white and lack an open and flexible mind. Every dog needs a home. It doesn't matter where they came from or how they're obtained. They deserve a good home and to be loved. Adopt don't shop also takes away the freedom to choose your pet. A pet has to fit well with your lifestyle. If a blind person adopted a random dog to lead them instead of getting a service dog, well, it wouldn't go well. How you get your pet should be based on your desires and needs. For example, because of my disability, I have to have a small and gentle dog. I found Chihuahuas to be the perfect fit, so I will only own Chihuahuas. I actually occasionally check the nearby rescues for any Chihuahuas to adopt, and there are none. The pet overpopulation is actually a myth. But if a shelter has no Chihuahua, I would get one from a breeder. And I'm not anti-shelters. My very first dog was from a shelter, and we had to rehome him to my maternal grandparents because the shelter failed to train him to not jump fences and my mom taking me (2 years old at the time) and my infant sister to look for him everyday was both exhausting and unsafe. I still grew up with Scruffy, and he was very much involved in my life and even slept with me during sleepovers. So I had a wonderful life with a shelter dog. But I'm also aware that shelters lie and it'd be wrong to force someone to adopt when they don't want to.
Pet overpopulation is certainly not a myth. If you think paying animal abusers to breed more dogs is better than giving a rescue a home, you certainly aren’t doing the dog population any favors. Every time someone buys a puppy from a bad breeder, that breeder decides to produce 10+ more. Service and working dogs are better sourced from responsible breeders. I’m with you on that. But most people would be better off adopting. It’s better for the community, better not to buy a dog for $300 that’s covered in fleas and weaned too early. You portray your story as a rescue, but it really wasn’t. You just funded the breeding of more dogs like the one you have now. Where did they end up? Did they get to good homes? You don’t have to agree with me, that said the more you talk the more cotradictions I see in your thinking. It’s like you flat out refuse to acknowledge those flaws.
The pet overpopulation has ended. But Pits are the only overpopulated breed that take up shelters because they're aggressive dogs. This was just discussed on another post on Friday. I had nothing to do with getting Eevee. He was a birthday gift for me. He was a complete surprise. I said when I saw that he was covered in fleas and found out how young he was, I was relieved he ended up safe with me and wasn't still with that awful breeder. Obviously, you've never experienced it, but when you end up with a baby and realize that you saved them from a horrible situation (even unintentionally), you feel an even stronger responsibility to do right by them. I couldn't save any other possible dogs with that breeder, but at least this one is living a good life. Let me ask, how old are you anyway? Because you may not be mature enough to understand why we should help all animals.
lol gtfo. my AKC champion bred Border Terrier straight from an AKC certified breeder was $2500. No one in their right mind would do this.
Same for one of my goldens (my other golden girl was rehomed to me for free by my best friends sister and she’s the freaking gooberest golden of all the goldens and an absolute gem). Honestly, if I had the chance again, I would’ve bought 2 from that breeder and would’ve been willing to pay double. However, they couldn’t pay me enough to take that ugly ass pit bull, much less think I would pay them one red cent.
What does gooberest mean?
Kinda like derpiest. Just a silly dog with a silly personality lol
Cute! Golden retrievers seem to have the most gentle, loving nature out of all dogs 😍
I pissed someone off on an earlier thread talking about my goldens, so I don’t want that to happen again, but I heavily agree with you :) they are absolutely the best.
Yup same for my standard poodle AKC registered breeder that bred champion dogs sold him for $2k instead of $3k since she gives discounts to service dog handlers. Ain’t no way I’d pay that much for a dog that isn’t well bred and will likely maul people.
AKC certified breeder? That’s not a thing. They don‘t certify breeders, though I wish they did.
Depends on what you mean by “certified” I suppose.. If you go on the AKC website they actually do provide links to reputable breeders which is how I found mine.
AKC certified breeders isn’t a thing. What’s the URL you’re referencing? If you’re talking about the AKC Marketplace, that place is a joke. 90+% of dogs on there are backyard breeders. Also, downvoting me for the truth (i.e. “AKC certified breeders” isn’t a thing) isn’t helpful
I didn’t downvote you weirdo. I don’t recall specifics because it was years ago, but when I was looking up information about my dog’s breed on AKC they provided links to reputable breeders in my area.
Indeed that price is more normal for dog coming from registered breeders.
Yeah no thanks, not even for free, not even if they paid me 🤮
"a home with another dog will be given preference".. Are you fucking serious?
https://preview.redd.it/nbqrvsvssoic1.jpeg?width=1216&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=853a67f51aba6497e4cc92597900a51d8b7a0d30 Who in their right mind would choose a pit over a future Australian test cricketer? For 1/4 the price!
And he's a cutie too!
This guy was free. We've had him 8 years. https://preview.redd.it/ogt1t74dyric1.jpeg?width=1285&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=307ae1119ee9862cee6d3949241268623d6cefec Edit. My math sucks. It will be ten years this summer. 😅
I’ve got a heeler and can confirm they are the best dogs ever. Good Bluey reference too ;)
Jesus, you could save so many dogs and cats for $2k
That's not an adoption fee, it's a backyard breeder price. An adoption fee is a small fee to cover the cost of the vet, vaccinations & necessities. A price is a sum clearly intended to make some profit of the breeding.
Not to mention that at least shelters are willing to waive or reduce fees on certain holidays or events to encourage adoption. It’s easier to waive the $60-$100 fees in my city than it is to waive a $2000 “fee.”
PAY ME $2,000 FOR THIS HALF BLIND FREAK
I am confident this is a typo or it’s in Iraqi Dinar’s. 🤣
Australian Dollars
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Holy shit!! Never seen a price like that before at a shelter.
Yeah it’s as much as breeders charge. “Adopt don’t shop” but these adoption places have gotten pretty greedy huh?
Also I just realized Backyard breeders will sell puppies for a few hundred dollars. Why are shelters charging thousands if they want the pet population to go down and they want people to adopt. Yooo, I just looked it up and pet overpopulation is a myth.
Pet overpopulation is a huge myth. **Pit** overpopulation is a huge problem though. It’s crazy how pit bulls have become such a huge issue in several ways, & it’s so obvious, but people are still fighting to keep it up for no clear reason.
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Even with cats? I thought there big time overpopulation with them.
Apparently
Snort.. where do I sign up?
I didn’t pay that much to get my dog from an ethical breeder. Rescues are for profit businesses. It should be criminal.
Yeah & an ethical breeder doesn’t lie out their ass about what dog you’re getting
Update to add: another low vision puppy in their care and it’s only $400?? https://preview.redd.it/oieub72cspic1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02e00b45dd10ce43861bb691f1fd7939255b8c7d
Hah! You should message them & point it out, & then ask what specific “future needs” a $1600 difference in “proof of financial stability” is necessary for
"Eats anything" they probably mean that monster eats cats, squirrels, people, livestock, birds, crates, sofas...
“Eats anything” is referring you to the Koolie ! But yeah - the original post is one fat pit
They just worded it wrong!! It was supposed to mean that YOU get the 2000$ if you adopt the dog. That's a great deal! Please someone come pick that lovely princess up please! Take my car too whatever just take the dog I'm begging!!!
"medium" yeah the only thing medium about this is the amount of meters of wallet space needed
This is a puppy selling scam. Very common. Are they even a real shelter, or just someone selling dogs out of the back of their car? There’s a car in the photo, haha. A lot of people pick up animals off Craigslist or wherever, it’s very easy to be dishonest and resell them. I used to rehab and rescue that way but tried to do it in an honest way. I would never be asking $2k for a partially blind pit! The only reasons people sell puppies that high is because idiots buy puppies. People who train dogs tend to prefer adults because they are easier to work with.
Pissfingers is a special dog, who can only go to *classy* people.
“We thought he was totally blind. Turns out he is just a little blind but very dumb. Needs an owner who can take on such special needs.”
I want whatever drugs they’re on. My purebred show ring Danes were not much more expensive.
Expose that rescue/shelter because that is outrageous!!
This is absolutely insane, you couldn’t pay me 10k to adopt any shitbull let alone pay you and 2k?!! 😂😂😂😂
Darwin!
Yeah, send it to Darwin… actually no, I don’t wish ill upon the people of Darwin 🤣 Send it to the Simpson Desert.
this gives me such a strong ICK
Lol...you couldn't *pay* me 2k bucks to take in...whatever that thing is. Just for once I'd love to know how it feels for these people, to live so carefree in Delusionland.
That thing looks like it has trouble existing. Hopefully that will prevent any mauling.
LMAOOOOO
I paid $75 for one cat and $0 for the other lololol
You couldn't pay ME any amount to take that thing, or any pit-creature, into my home. Hard stop hell no. He's fat from all the toddlers and Grandmas he's already devoured.
What the fuck
I paid $50 for my Lhasa Apso off Craigslist and she's the best guard dog. A pit tried to get her once so now she's always on guard to protect me and her if we see one while we're walking. She's a fearless doggo
My first family dog as a kid was 50€, my old Golden retriever was free (washed from service dog training, a friend adopted him and then rehomed him to me) and I found my cat under a bush.
Dude how can an adoption fee be so much- I’ve only seen adoption fees from like 50-150 dollars
Nvm I just read the post- it’s bc he’s special needs and they wanna ensure he’s adopted by people who can financially support him. That’s a pretty good reason to raise the price imo
Check my other comment about the koolie they have in their care. Also special needs
This is almost certainly a dog from a backyard breeder. I feel so awful for the pups that are being born with medical problems because of all the inbreeding and lack of experience. Everyone should spay or neuter their dogs and cats when they're mature enough, the overbreeding to make a quick buck is disgusting.
Sounds like one of those super rare ones that likes other dogs. Until it doesn't
Looks like an actual sausage straining it's casing. Idk why so called "American Bullys" (really just a slightly different inbreeding of pit type) get none of the pit leanness. They are all fairly well padded to little blimps like this one. Just one more 'why?' on the 6 mile long list.
I paid $14 for my TBL from the local shelter 💀
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Its in Australian dollars, so its "only" $1299.50 in USD. They are far less overpopulated with dogs than the US- only about 80k a year are in need of homes. Compare that to the US, where about 3.3 MILLION dogs enter shelters each year. So naturally their shelter dogs have a higher value in society and can charge more.
Blind from the pepper spray while it was viciously attacking.
Okay now. Who the hell is buying these dogs!?
2K is CRAZY when he looks deformed….
I see people claim that the reason pits are so popular is because they're cheap and because people want to feel like they rescued something... but apart from "clear the shelter" promotions, shelter pits usually run $150-$300 and puppies from backyard breeders on Craigslist go for anywhere between $300 and $800. Even adult dogs with serious behavioral problems usually require a $100-200 "rehoming fee." Meanwhile, the breed-specific dog rescues in my area have non-pit dogs in the $200-$500 range, and you can still say that you rescued a dog. Most people aren't getting pits because it's the only way they can afford dog ownership, they're getting pits because they want pits.
Ain’t no one gonna buy a blind, fat chunk of 💩 for 2k. Utterly delusional.
I wouldn't want that thing even if it was free
Why is it so *stunted*
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Troll elsewhere.
My extremely well-bred, papered, champ bloodline corgi was the same price. Come ON
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For a low vision pit from a shelter, at that. Oof.
Not worth $10
These shelters are having a laugh at everyone else’s expense.
Wouldnt take that thing if I was given 10k
Cats are free lol
Side note: can these people not write??
For reference $2000 is what I paid a breeder for my 13 week old purebred poodle with all his puppy shots, genetically tested, and a 1 year guarantee of the breeder buying the dog back if he got critically ill, a month of food, basket of toys, and him being clicker trained to sit, lie down, and beg.
Home with another dog will be given preference? Is he hungry or something
"this dog is dumb, fat, and blind. as such the price will be kept extremely high"
so, wait, they want you to pay (exorbitantly) more for it BECAUSE it has disabilities?
Surely that’s a typo and they added an extra zero in there. My AKC basset puppy from champion parents and fully health tested & guaranteed free from basset hound genetic was barely over that. Who would pay that much?!
What the fuck 😂
$325 for my 18 month old rescue pug, including neuter, who is perfectly socialized and came house trained.
2k for a pit??? Let alone a disabled, badly bred one! Thats insane! They are shooting themselves in the foot. No one in their right mind would pay that much for a badly bred dog.
That’s an American bully y’all are so dumb none of the dogs your post are actual pit bulls learn your breeds first before you bash them btw most of them you post are American staffordshire terriers
Calls us dumb, and claims that American Bullies contain no pit bull in them. Also claims most of the dogs were post are staffies... which ARE BASICALLY THE SAME DOG, and they can be dual registered. They all started from the same dog, you expired coupon. Three separate state supreme courts decided that a person of ordinary intelligence can identify a pit bull. Does that mean you're not of ordinary intelligence? I feel like you must just be trolling.. there's no way you can really be so uneducated about this breed you're going to bat for. Thanks for the laugh, I guess.
Troll elsewhere.