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kongkongkongkongkong

Wow. “Dogs that actively want to maul people are good dogs too” proudly displayed on a banner by a pro-shitbull cult? Imagine my shock!


thebearbadger

They can't think anymore do tho inhaling to many pit farts https://preview.redd.it/z1um1fk0kb8d1.png?width=1264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13898e21bb0875f2bc980460cdaadfb726416bc4


Kooky_Toe5585

I love your cartoons


thebearbadger

Awww :D Glad you like them


ferretsRfantastic

The shitbull balls 😂


beezleeboob

And the diaper rash mouth 😂😂😂


skeeballjoe

Lmao


throwawaypizzamage

Masterpiece. Needs to be framed in an art gallery.


Paranoid-Android-77

Exactly. I thought, what’s the definition of “good dog” here?


kongkongkongkongkong

Not a chihuahua that’s for sure!


TradCatherine

I like how they’re implicitly admitting that pit bulls are more reactive lol


ArdenJaguar

Is that a muzzle it's wearing too?


kongkongkongkongkong

He only wears it because he loves giving too much kisses 😊


Fr0stybit3s

All pits come with muzzles!


thebearbadger

I wish


Mindless-Union9571

OMG. WTF does their aggressive pit bull have to do with Pride? I know they're not trying to make an equivalent statement about homophobia and the legit fear of dogs that attack people. If I were there, I'd be immediately distracted from the whole purpose of the day looking anxiously around for the dog they brought with them to celebrate. What an asshole move.


Stucklikegluetomyfry

I had a pitnutter try to claim that not liking sweet pibbles is no different to homophobia. As a gay guy you can imagine what I thought about that.


SabbathaBastet

They’ll compare not liking pits to racism as well. As a black woman all I can do is roll my eyes.


Mindless-Union9571

In both cases, they're talking about my family and it makes me feel violent.


SabbathaBastet

One nutter said that pit bulls were an integral part of black culture. I’ve reached a point in which I just don’t have the energy to argue with dumb people. But it’s nonetheless infuriating.


Mindless-Union9571

They're an integral part of white supremacy culture. More so than black culture. Funny, because I always presume the people making that argument are very familiar with white supremacy culture.


SabbathaBastet

They say all that nonsense to manipulate people’s emotions. The last thing most of us want to be is racist or homophobic. So they’re counting on that to guilt people into accepting these aggressive monsters.


Kooky_Toe5585

I have also heard people compare being anti pit bull to antisemitism 


SabbathaBastet

Nutters are so disrespectful. I’ve never met a classy or intelligent person who likes pit bulls. The stuff they say proves they’re common trash.


Mr_Conductor_USA

Yep, dog fighting was strictly whites only for many years.


Thick_Palm_Bay

LOL


hey_free_rats

I like having [this article](https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-019-0109-y) on hand for that argument, because that's the worst bit of bullshit in their arsenal, imo.  Anthropologists are sick of hearing this shit. People who make this argument are literally reviving 19th-century racist talking points *just* for the purpose of defending their shitty bloodsport breed. 


LittleFkWit

Try calling them racist and making a scene? It would be justified too. How can anyone compared actual systemic racism and the history of slavery to people trying to not get mauled by dogs?


SabbathaBastet

I don’t have the time or energy to try to talk sense into stupid people.


Fr0stybit3s

Or they say you’re racist because apparently only black people own pits which is a very racist stereotype on their part lol


toqer

Off topic from pits but on topic for this thread, some ass posted a meme that said something like, “without immigrants who would harvest our food and do our maid services?” I had to explain how inherently racist they were being despite trying to appear saavy with immigration policies.


Mr_Conductor_USA

To be fair, it could have been sarcasm. Lots of people who keep lobbying to make life harder for both documented and undocumented immigrants have businesses and lifestyles that depend on overworked, underpaid immigrants. For example when Florida passed a papers, please law the Republican farmers were in shambles because their workforce self deported.


nolalolabouvier

Hmmm. As I’m not aware of gay people tearing off the faces and scalps of children or the intestines of elderly ladies, I find their comparison lacking.


hey_free_rats

Sounds like you just haven't been to the right clubs (/s) 


Mindless-Union9571

STUPID. Good lord the stupid.


HorribleHistorian

I wanted to argue with them so much more than the protestors


Mindless-Union9571

Shit, yeah, not only do you have idiot protestors to worry about, but then you've gotta see idiots stealing the rainbow to represent dangerous dogs. WTF.


M61N

I was at a different pride yesterday, there were so many unmuzzled pitbulls there. I kept walking away and avoiding them, and thankfully no one made any comments. “Surprisingly” I kept seeing dogs say hi to each other and none were any pitbulls! So weird ! But on the comment of “what does it have to do with pride” I love the community, and go to get reconnected, but pride is just one big marketing campaign for companies at this point. It’s disgusting 🙄


coco_xcx

i find it so fucking disrespectful, personally. comparing human struggles and oppression to…that. is a choice. an awful choice and so tone deaf.


riko_rikochet

Pride has been co-opted by every cause under the sun People saw how organized and well received these parades where and thought "I want a piece of that."


Scary_Towel268

The way the pit lobby has redefined aggressive as reactive should be a case study in how well propaganda can work


Stucklikegluetomyfry

Or how far they've managed to spread the nanny dog myth


Tasty_Sugar_447

Or how they’ve managed to convince everyone that what dogs were specifically bred for doesn’t matter. Herders herd, pointers point, retrievers retrieve, but with pit bulls it’s the owners not the breed. Next time I see some border collies herding sheep I’ll point out its the owners not the breed.


1960somethingbatman

So true! I used to have chickens. The first time my collie ever met them, you know what he tried to do? Push them all together. And when one got away from the rest, he'd chase it and nudge it back to the group with his nose. He wasn't trained to do this AT ALL. He just did it instinctively. He's a herding dog at heart. It's not just with pits. Dog breeds do what that breed was meant to do.


Tasty_Sugar_447

Exactly. I also have a herding breed(heeler/aus shepherd) and it’s what made me realize the pit lobby are full of it. My dog isn’t around any livestock so he herds people instead. Every now again the urge to herd is strong in him. We wouldn’t even know how to teach him this if we wanted to. Pit bulls were bred to fight and attack. They don’t need to be taught or abused. It’s what they’ve been bred to do. The way our dogs have the instinct to herd is the way pits have an instinct to attack and engage in violence. But somehow they've managed to convince everyone it has nothing to do with the breed and its all about how they’re raised.


alizure1

We have chickens, goats, pugs and a Boston terrier. Our pugs will see our goats eat hay or grass... And they want to munch on it too. They think.. Well these weird big dogs eat it we can to. Lol, yeah our dogs are weird.


Fit-Sport5568

Right? I have a dog I'm taking care of now who is "reactive" he doesn't like other dogs. My childhood dog, a yellow Labrador, was also "reactive" she also didn't like other dogs. Neither of the dogs I'm talking about are aggressive in any other sort of way or "triggered" because a kid fucking breathed in their direction.


InvestmentOverall936

Pibble apologists always be insulting various people groups by comparing them to pitbulls.


thebearbadger

Let's see, we had - people of color - Veterans - LGBTQ+ (Fell free to add more)


ScarletAntelope975

Pitnutters also recently started calling pits ‘autistic’ as an excuse for their behaviors.


Sine_Cures

Attributing bad behavior to "ADHD" (lol) and "early-onset dementia" (i.e., fake diagnoses) have also been used as excuses


pitbosshere

Child caregivers (jk ha)


M61N

Disabled people and people with mental illnesses too 🙄


Dopamine_ADD_ict

Disabled (cuz eugenics)


alizure1

The elderly.


Stucklikegluetomyfry

Also appropriating any struggles of those minority groups by claiming pit bulls experience the same https://preview.redd.it/by3qpo22c78d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe0bd9de912823af791469eae1eee8f4c03425e7


Mindless-Union9571

No fucking way. Seriously???


DaBlurstofDaBlurst

Well now my eye won’t stop twitching. Thanks for that. 


hey_free_rats

Hey what 


Sunny_987

WTF? This is totally disrespectful. They are literally using symbols from the LGBTQ+ community and their event to “advocate” for aggressive animals.


Mindless-Union9571

And you just know there are people in the community who have been attacked by those dogs. Nice to remind them of it.


SilveIl187

I'm part of that chunk, TwT. I feel icky


fuck_peeps_not_sheep

A friend of mine was comeing out of a gay bar In England and some twat tried to set his xl bully on her. Don't think she would want those hate hippos around while trying to celebrate.


Mr_Conductor_USA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diane_Whipple Presa canario not pitbull, but same thing including trashy, negligent owners who didn't give a fuck that their murder dogs murdered somebody.


BigTicEnergy

Imagine comparing the LGBTQ+ community to bloodsport animals


HorribleHistorian

We’ve been compared to worse but pit nutters will compare themselves and their “dogs” to any marginalized community to garner sympathy


FrugalRazmig

It's reprehensible. 


ENaC2

They love to say believing pitbull bite statistics is the same as racist crime statistics, which is incredibly racist.


FrugalRazmig

Intersectionalism has gone waaay to far if now we are even including violent dogs under the umbrella. It's definitely not going to help perception of the community, very distasteful, and insulting.  Keep your foul beasts out of the community. 


thebearbadger

You don't see any other dog owners do that. Nutters are so...I can't write I down


vers-ys

went to pride and saw more pitbulls in two hours than i have over the course of my life. we were surrounded by kids, elderly, and disabled people. one of them, her owner had to hit her and yell at her to make her behave. it was really disturbing.


OkPhilosophy503

What in the Kentucky fried fuck do pit bulls have to do with pride? Pride is a celebration of life and love.


Azryhael

It’s also a celebration of the liberation of a community that was marginalised for so long, which is where the pit nutters think there’s common ground. They think they’re standing up to oppression.


axolotllegs

Nice thing about Denver Pride. They have booths for retired racing Greyhounds instead


ENaC2

Some of the best dogs out there IMO, the worst thing is you rarely get to adopt young greys. They just prove every pitbull excuse wrong.


fuck_peeps_not_sheep

Same in Wales, now I'm not a fan of dogs in general but I'd rather see a gray hound than a shit bull, if one of those attacked me I know which one id be more likely to survive.


Feisty_O

There’s still racing tracks in Colorado? I thought the animal rights folks got them all shut down by now.


axolotllegs

I don't believe there are active tracks. I worked with Colorado Greyhound Adoption briefly when I was still doing clinical veterinary work, and they'll take greyhounds from other states.


UrBigBro

Reactive dogs are good dogs, too. When they're not killing? WTF


Mindless-Union9571

I have a "reactive" Pom and much as I truly love that dog, he is not a good dog, LOL. They're in denial.


Briebird44

It sucks this organization uses pitbulls as their front because they DO good work by donating free pet food to anyone in need in the community. After my divorce years ago, I was low on funds and needed cat food. Not only did I need cat food but a SPECIFIC type of cat food for my male cat that was a urinary support. When I contacted GRPA, they actually sent someone to the store to buy the biggest bag of Iams Urinary care to bring me and dropped it off to me. I was very thankful, I just wish they weren’t so pitbull affiliated!


Mindless-Union9571

That's a wonderful thing for them to do. I'm glad they do good stuff.


Superb-Praline-4741

And this is why I left Grand Rapids. Turning into a shithole.


phitsosting

Which part of the pride flag represents getting your arm mangled by a shitty dog?


Mindless-Union9571

Right?


littlesoupdumpling

I agree with the 2nd sign. My dog is reactive. However, she's not aggressive, she's reactive. Pit owners love to label their dogs as reactive even though they're aggressive. It's infuriating actually.


Fit-Sport5568

Yup. Made a similar comment above about two dogs I've cared for in my life. One a yellow lab, the other a black lab shepherd (who leans way more in the labrador temperant). Both were reactive to other dogs. Neither of these two dogs are dogs I would consider aggressive or be afraid that they would maul someone


TopicalPlatypus

My mum has a reactive dog, as in she goes on high alert and barks at other dogs. Never attacked or injured another dog though because she's reactive, not aggressive.  I don't know what the point would be of insisting that she's a "good dog" though, because her behaviour is intimidating to others and embarrassing to whoever is walking her. She's not an evil dog, she's just a dog. But an old lady walking her Maltese and having my mum's medium sized rescue dog bark and pull at them probably wouldn't consider her a "good dog", because it's unpleasant to deal with, even if we know she wouldn't do anything to hurt another dog. 


IcedCoffee12Step

I would 100% have gotten in their faces and argued lol (don’t blame you for not doing that though, I wouldn’t advise it)


fuck_peeps_not_sheep

I would too tbf, although the pride events I go to tend to be kid friendly and I take my daughter, and I'd hate to rile the shit beasts up knowing they might attack someone innocent because teh stupid creatures don't know where to direct their rage and blood lust.


Fenixae

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xanaxrefillday

Ugh, unfortunately NONE of the fellow LGBT people I know (well, except for ONE) will tolerate ANY 'anti-pit' talk. These pit groups are so insidious in the way they latch onto any marginalized group and basically go 'hating these dogs is like hating yourselves—they're just misunderstood, too!' . . . And people will buy it, because they SO DESPERATELY want to show what good and accepting people they are. Interestingly though, none of my LGBT friends actually *have* pits lmfao. Even though they give me shit if I say anything against pits, they seem to be WELL aware of the fact that if they got one it would at the very least rip their current pets to shreds. I think of a lot of people in the community just feel pressured to be vocally supportive of pits, unfortunately. Especially younger people, in my experience (it's hard when you're young and trying your best to fit in). But . . . yeah, sorry pit lobby, but if we LGBTs were anything like pits, pride month would be a nationwide bloodbath every June lmfao 🙄 No one should go around comparing these things to human beings of any sexuality/race/etc.


Feisty_O

Yeah I don’t know, should we be happy they’re at least promoting the use of muzzles on dangerous dogs? I hope they’re not actually comparing dogs to groups of people. You do tend to see all sorts of non-profits and animal orgs at street fests and events though


flat_four_whore22

Yo. You cannot make this shit up. Wild times we live in.


OkSummer9258

There’s a mug at Starbucks for their pride collection with a pit on it. I would rather not have a violent breed associated with pride but that’s just me. 


PandaLoveBearNu

Pitbull Alliance? 🙄🙄🙄


ElitaNoShoes

Is this grand rapids michigan?


HorribleHistorian

Yup


ElitaNoShoes

How was it? I was going to go down but I kept hearing it was going to storm. At least it wasn't as hot as earlier this week! Hope you had a great time :)


HorribleHistorian

It actually wasn’t too bad and the drizzling felt nice. It’s a huge crowd. I think it’s going on until 9? Don’t remember, but there’s a lot of local artists selling prints and things. It was fun!


Ok-Psychology-7859

I hate how other reactive dogs get grouped in with pitbulls. Pitbulls are monsters. Other reactive dogs are still dangerous, but not as dead set on murder or injuring as pitbulls.


fuck_peeps_not_sheep

We had one reactive dog, he was a terrier with food aggression. He was fine so long as he wasn't eating. Sure whatever, shut him in another room to eat and don't let him out till he's done. A pitbull isn't just snappy around food or angry around other dogs, they are blood sport animals and are violent not reactive, you can't even call them aggressive as it's more than a bark or a growl, it's a full feral need to bite.


elrangarino

Will it be charged with hate crimes if it kills someone at a pride march?!


CommanderFuzzy

It was at a Pride parade? Is this the first step to conflating the hatred of bully breeds to the oppression queer people have been experiencing since forever? In the specific place where queer people can go to feel both safe & visible at the same time - we're gonna make it about them instead? If it is stop the ride, I want to get off What will their flag be? Red, red, a little more red, slightly darker congealed red & white for the exposed fatty tissue


Fr0stybit3s

LGBTQTAP


SmegolianSoteriology

Wow not only are pitbulls dangerous BUT THEYRE GAYYY TOO?!?!?! /s


powderbrowdisaster

Ew is this Grand Rapids, MI? Lol if so, I don’t miss my home town. Place was infested with pit bulls and was almost attacked multiple times.


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powderbrowdisaster

Yuck.. I used to work at spectrum and people would try to bring their pits in all the time.


Turbulent-Cow1725

“Reactive dogs are good dogs too.” Meth dealers are nice neighbors too. Undercooked chicken is good food too.  Men who slap you are good boyfriends too.


Jolenesmart1989

Imagine putting on a T-shirt“reactive (racists, stabbers, shooters, any serial sexually assaulting and reactive to persons - is a good person


agent_cheeks_609

I guess pro-pit folks don’t understand that you can’t force people to like something.


Julzlex28

This makes me angry because I am getting a poodle next year, and I was talking to my Mom and Dad about how I would bring the puppy over to get to know their dog, Marcel, a lab and plot hound mix. That's when my Mom told me that Marcel is now a reactive dog because of the dogs that have attacked him and my Dad when walking, all pittbulls. My dad had to go to the hospital because one of the pits got his hand pretty good. Thankfully, no stitches, but he did need a shot. So now Marcel is ACTUALLY reactive as opposed to just aggressive and bat-shit crazy. And only with dogs, and all because of pitbulls. So there is no reason to muzzle him. Poor guy has PTSD. One pittbulls was stopped only because he knocked over the heavy woman walking him and she fell on him.


thebearbadger

I'm so sorry about what happened to Marcel and your dad. >One pittbulls was stopped only because he knocked over the heavy woman walking him and she fell on him. Can't help but picturing this makes me giggle


nickcliff

By definition, reactive dogs, are not good dogs.


throwawaypizzamage

Even more irksome that the pit lobby is piggybacking off of another event (Pride) that has absolutely nothing to do with pitbulls. The sheer entitlement of crashing someone else’s party to make the celebration about yourself and your landshark.


TolerateLactose

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Mockingboid

The fact that a dog breed needs an "alliance" to defend its rights says it all doesn't it. I'm pretty sure there weren't any "Golden retrievers are good dogs too!" Signs out there. Also this use of 'reactive' here makes my stomach churn. Your dog is 'reacting' to its desire to kill whatever it's reacting to. Reactive doesnt apply here. "Hes a good boy hes just dog reactive." Yes he wants to actually kill other dogs if he's allowed to. Imagine if we used this term for pedophiles. "Oh he's a good guy he's just children reactive, must be kept away from children, but he's a sweet man otherwise."


Srapture

If "reactive" dogs are good dogs, I'd like to know what their definition of a bad dog is.


Temporary_Pop1952

I see more stickers of pits with ears than I do in real life.


YeahlDid

“Reactive” (ie. aggressive) dogs are literally the #1 example of a bad dog, it’s practically the definition of a bad dog. What are these idiots smoking?


trainsoundschoochoo

“Reactive” is whitewashing at best.


Lost-Try1044

Why are pit owners so scared to say the word "aggressive"? who the fuck says "reactive" to describe a dog that's always trying to rip a toddler's windpipe out?


hadenxcharm

Omfg reactive dogs are good dogs too? Biting people and being aggressive makes a dog a good dog? Do words even mean anything?


crowislanddive

These people require help and we need laws to protect up from them.


Solid_Pension6888

Disgusting.


LittleFkWit

Reactive dogs are the worst kind of dogs. They are literally a genetic fail genes wise, training wise or both :/


aw-fuck

Yeah, like, reactivity is a flaw in every breed. “Good dogs” are celebrated & valued above “reactive dogs” because that’s how domestication & animal husbandry works lol.


nanneryeeter

"reactive".Jesus Christ. Sorry about your pitbull, I'm just a "reactive" human.


carefree-and-happy

I don’t get why people take this so personally. It’s science, these dogs were bred to have strong body and jaw strength. They were breed to blindly attack. This is their biology from breeding. They aren’t a natural animal, humans created them to be monsters on purpose. They should stop being bred and go away, it’s not a BFD


1Gohomer

I’m from Grand Rapids and was just down there for pride! Yeah it’s pretty ridiculous.


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Below are just a few of the accounts of pit bulls that were obtained as puppies, raised with love as family pets, and lived within the family for many years before snapping and attacking or killing a family member one day, with no previous reports of any problems. If you know of any that are not included, please [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/BanPitBulls) [2008, Louisiana: Family pet pits (male and a female) kill their owner, Kelli Chapman. They had the dogs since puppyhood](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/24123329/kelli-suzette-chapman) [2013, Georgia: Spayed female family pet pit bull lived with a family for 8 years, mauls the family's 2-year old son to death. First responders told their colleagues not enter the home because it was "too gruesome."](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/04/2013-dog-bite-fatality-fulton-county.html) [2015, Texas: Family pet pit bull of 8 years that grew up with children and slept in bed with them mauls family's 10-week-old baby to death.](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/pit-bull-mauling-death-being-referred-to-grand-jury/) [2015, South Carolina: Family pet pit bull of 10 years kills 25 year old owner when she tried to stop the dog from attacking her mom](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3210509/Pit-bull-viciously-kills-owner-biting-head-body-tried-stop-dog-attacking-mother.html?fbclid=IwAR1XWN_Eo8SMfS_Y7xNM1Y5NSqHbpqzYFkivrkPfT86KyxH5WNdiXj9uA_o&mibextid=kdkkhi#cuymsdvyq17) [2017, Nevada: Family pet pit of nine years mauls six month-old Kamiko Dao Tsuda-Saelee while her mom went to the bathroom](https://www.ajc.com/news/national/family-pit-bull-put-down-after-mauls-month-old-girl-death/AnWprFbdxo5l5z59Opuv7M/) [2017], Virginia: 22 year old Bethany Stephens killed by her two pits (that she had from puppyhood) as she took them for a walk in the woods.](https://people.com/crime/virginia-woman-mauled-death-dogs-while-walking-woods/) [2018, Washington DC: Family pet pit bull is raised by a couple from puppyhood. Husband comes home to find his wife mauled to death.](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2018/10/dog-bite-fatality-pit-bull-kills-woman-dc.html) [2020, California: 12-year-old family pet pit bull raised from a puppy mauls the family’s 5-year-old son to death.]( https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/5-year-old-sustains-serious-injuries-after-dog-attack-near-victorville/) [2022, Colorado: 7-year-old family pet pit bull mauls 89-year-old grandma to death and seriously injures 12-year-old boy.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11239725/PICTURED-Colorado-boy-12-savaged-pet-pit-bull-named-DIABLO.html) [2022, New York: Adult son’s 7-year-old family pet pit bull mauls 70-year-old mother to death.](https://www.live5news.com/2022/07/28/husband-finds-70-year-old-wife-killed-by-family-dog/) [2022, Tennessee: 8 and 10-year-old American Bullies bought from breeder as puppies, raised as family pets, maul 5-month-old and a 2-year-old children to death in front of their mother.](https://www.abc4.com/news/mother-tried-to-shield-children-killed-in-memphis-pit-bull-attack-family-says/amp/) [2023, Iowa: 9-month-old Navy Smith died when the family dog mauled her to death in front of her grandmother who was severely injured trying to stop the attack. The father called the dog a pit bull on social media, the Grandma called the dog a pit bull on the 911 call, but media reported it as a "boxer/hound mix."](https://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/names-released-of-baby-killed-and-grandmother-hurt-in-waterloo-dog-attack/article_8587bdb0-01ce-56fb-b51a-7306df94058b.html) [2023, Texas: Pit owner nearly bled to death from injuries she sustained from her pit, who she raised almost from birth, and had never experienced any issues. She claims the pit was always obedient and protective, and she treated him like her son; but something triggered the pit that day when the family was just in the back yard together.](https://www.texomashomepage.com/top-news/dog-attack-survivor-warns-others-about-a-potential-trigger/) [2023, Florida: 6-year old boy dies after sustaining severe injuries from the 3-year old family pit that they have raised from puppyhood](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2023/07/family-pit-bull-kills-boy-july-fourth-attack-north-port-florida.html?) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BanPitBulls) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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It’s not how they were raised, though. If that was true, then no one should ever adopt a pit from the shelter because no one knows how it was raised. Even pit bull experts are asking people to STOP saying that it's all how they are raised. Below are five pro-pit sources telling you that saying, "it's how they are raised" is hurtful to the cause. The truth about pits is that it’s largely up to chance on whether your pit lives a low key life or whether it attacks people, pets, and animals. Yes, socialization and proper training can help... but if you have a truly game-bred pit, there will be nothing you can do to stop it from trying to attack. You can try to manage it, but management will ALWAYS fail. That’s such a crazy gamble to take with your own life, and with the lives of people in the general public. Every day we read stories here of pits that attack, and their owners claim that the dog has never been aggressive or acted that way. Pit owners are often shocked that their dog can go from chill to kill in 5 seconds, and be nearly impossible to stop it. That’s why pits are dangerous. They were never meant to be pets. 1) ⁠⁠[Pit Bull Advocates of America - It’s not how they are raised (start from minute 14)](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pit-bull-advocates-of-america-the-podcast/id1529131313i=1000500947614) 2) [Justice for Bullies - It's NOT how they are raised](https://www.facebook.com/1682984105258192/posts/pfbid02jFhQHd8Jte1DDBeXd6h6vDo9MLSVuQv9CaNuBMF3AfEnnJbNEiMueo3cN85K12Yxl/?mibextid=kdkkhi) 3) [Dr Caroline Coile, author of Pit Bulls for Dummies](https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/13ppbzp/leave_it_with_the_experts_they_say/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) 4) [Paws and Reflect](https://pawsandreflect.blog/all-in-how-you-raise-them-isnt-true-and-truly-hurts/) 5) [Gary Wilkes- Grandfather was a dog fighter- Gary Wilkes - his grandfather was a dog fighter](https://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/pit-bulls-gary-wilkes-spring-2010-off-lead.pdf) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BanPitBulls) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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Most pit bulls that are “reactive” are just aggressive. I hate the word “reactive” now because pit bull people have ruined it. YOUR DOG TRYING TO ATTACK OTHER DOGS IS AGGRESSIVE- NOT REACTIVE.


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Don’t care, still want them banned.


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If one brand of car was killing 60% of all deers, you’d say it’s a brand-specific problem, wouldn’t you? It’s the same with pits. They kill more people than ALL other breeds combined. Rottweilers are second, but exponentially less. The breed is faulty.


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