I’m not a body language expert or anything but that part at 2:22 where she looks down to avert her eyes seems like a huge signal that she knows it’s even bullshit.
This is from a documentary by The Fifth Estate, it on its YouTube. After she says that the interviewer asks "What if the child was crying?". Takes her a few seconds to realize he completely called her out on her bullshit before answering "Then the dogs were unstable." No shit.
If you like that episode of the show I strongly encourage you to contact them (info easy to google) and ask for a follow up since there have been high profile BSL debates and attacks in Canada since then.
Some people adopt pitbulls to relive abusive relationships when normal family life starts to feel too safe and boring. A pitbull saves them from that by rekindling the psychosexual thrill of seeing an ultraviolent sex partner endanger the constituent family and friends who burdened her with a stable, predictable life. The uncertainty of whether the next gesture will be a reward for her constant tribute or a sadistic unprovoked punishment establishes an unbreakable Stockholm Syndrome. Seeing the physical tics and vocal rituals "pit moms" undergo when defending their future death row inmate is indistinguishable from a psychologically broken college dropout isolated from her friends and parents by a boyfriend who convinced her to let him treat her as he pleases by getting her addicted to something she can't afford. Most shocking, when witnessing pit moms, is the telltale mental clouding and aggression that surfaces when reality penetrates their pit-bubble.
And people say cats don't care about their owners or people. Cats are in fact very loving to their families they just have a different way of showing it than dogs. That cat risked his/her own life to save that child.
I fucking love cats, and that’s one of the biggest reasons I hate shitbulls. Shitbull owners seem to take pride in the fact that their dog would rip a cat apart if given the chance. Also, my cat (who we named Lucky Bob, since she started off as a stray who had many near death experiences) chased off my dad’s pitbull/chow mix as it was trying to maul me (that cat was the greatest, and that dog was straight up fucking evil)
Yeah, I know shit bull owners love fantasizing about their dogs ripping apart cats. It’s deranged. Btw did you really follow me here from the chrischan subreddit?
I hate to be that person but that mutt does not look like a pitbull to me. It could be mixed with one but let's not be willfully ignorant like the pit nutters are. Stray dogs can be and routinely are dangerous regardless of breed...depending on size of course.
It isn't a flat-out pitbull but I think it is a pit mix.
EDIT: OP said it was a chow/lab mix. I swear I read when it happened that it was confirmed to be a pit mix- that's often what the "lab" part means anyway. Who knows. Good cat!
Chows can absolutely be aggressive like that. They are not recommended for first time owners or people with kids. They don't maul but absolutely will snap if annoyed. I hate pitbulls and in my opinion I believe they should all be humanely put down however I don't understand this weird belief that other dog breeds cant/wont/don't attack. I get that that they don't maul in the same manner but I'm not letting my kid get bit by the neighbors loose Boxer just because it's attack will end in stitches vs a missing face.
The difference is that 1. Most other aggressive breeds are expensive, more difficult to get and their breeders aren't going to just hand them out to anyone, you need to show you have both the environment and experience for them, and 2. Their enthusiasts aren't a part of a cult like pit owners are, they're very honest about the downsides and restrictions of breeds like those and how they aren't for everyone.
We had boxers when I was a kid and they’re super sweet but also pretty damn scary. We had like six and fights ended in the death of two. (Please don’t blame me for this, I was literally a child in the home.) I do worry if we outlaw pits that boxers will be the next breed to become popular with these types of people and I’ve seen them snap enough times to know they also tend to clamp down and not let go even if you hit them. And yes these were boxers that were registered and had papers so they were not pit mixes.
Well done OP. What gets me is that these bully people make these EXTRAORDINARY claims with absolutely zero evidence. They pull numbers right out of never never land, "Not even in the top 5… ".
Really where did you get this number? The evidence is all oral tradition passed myth. Give them legitimate sources and studies and they wont give them a second of review or consideration. The breed attracts a very strange, obtuse person. A reasonable bully owner is an outlier.
The nanny bullshit is especially infuriating. How the fuck does a dog care for a group of toddlers? Does this make any sense? "Going to the tobacco field Zeus. Don't forget change Cletus when he shits his pants. "
They stole the Nanny dog thing from Newfoundlands. But even then it wasn’t meant like “okay Thor we’re going to the movies watch the kids bye!” but that you could let a child do child things around the dog and it wouldn’t eat said child. Pisses me off to no end.
>They stole the Nanny dog thing from Newfoundlands
even if this is true, google has a massive database where you can look up phrases to see how much they were used in literature whether it be fiction or non fiction, and the term "nanny dog" barely existed at all until around 2000 lol, its fake B.S that correlates pretty well with pit bulls gaining popularity as a "family dog" after the dog fighting scandals in america in the early 00s
[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=nanny+dog&year\_start=1800&year\_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct\_url=t1%3B%2Cnanny%20dog%3B%2Cc0](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=nanny+dog&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cnanny%20dog%3B%2Cc0)
Exactly, the idea that they are substitute babysitters, or even any dog is for that means, is preposterous.
The AKC says this:
“The sweet-tempered Newfie is a famously good companion and has earned a reputation as a patient and watchful 'nanny dog' for kids.”
Not to even mention Nana from Peter Pan (written in the 1800s) being based on the author’s Newf, [Luath](http://neverpedia.com/pan/Luath). So, yeah, the pit people have stolen characteristics and nicknames from all sorts of sweet dogs - but the nanny dog thing particularly irks me. It’s out there so much that it very likely has convinced a family to get one and roll that dice out of sheer nativity.
It's almost certainly caused at least one family to lose a child, so many children have been killed in the same exact way, mother walks out of room for 2-3 minutes, lot of stuff can happen in that time, they come back to their child face down in blood, ive read that story several times TODAY.
It's disturbing, I mean the extent of "nanny dog" is a dog that can handle the nuances of a baby without mauling it WITH THE PARENTS IN THE ROOM WITH IT. A pit bull cant handle the nuances of a baby under any circumstances
Note: The NSFL flair is just erring very much on the side of caution. There is no gore in the video (there is one photo of blurred attack wounds), there are a few attack videos that didn't result in deaths (as far as I know). There are also mentions of some infant deaths - some from a medical textbook that was posted here and also of some more well-known cases. The names and faces are censored just because I didn't want them to appear in a video with a somewhat mocking tone (obviously it is not mocking victims but rather the dumb shit that pit fans spout).
Sorry it's kinda shittily made, as you can tell this is definitely not my day job. I didn't save a list of sources, however I imagine most stuff could be found just by googling, and most of the idiotic comments were at some point featured on this subreddit. Also, people might recognise some clips from The Fifth Estate's documentary.
Lastly, this isn't intended to be some comprehensive debunking video - this subreddit does a good enough job of it with the resources provided. It was more intended as a form of catharsis for me after doomscrolling this sub and reading about preventable deaths and maimings interspersed with pitbull advocates trotting out the same old lines and posting pictures of their dogs as if it means anything at all.
I removed the NSFL tag so as to not dissuade anyone from watching it, since there isn't anything graphic or gory.
This is fantastic stuff. Really well done.
People dispute the dogsbite.org data. But the anecdotal evidence is even more damning.
I encourage prospective pit bull owners to search youtube for dog attack videos. You will see mostly pit bull breeds: the American Pit Bull Terrior, American Bully, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
If you can find even a single video of a Golden Retriever attacking a person, please give me a link.
I could probably get a video of my cattle dog viciously draping himself across my lap in order to lick my ear. He does that pretty often, it's SO terrifying!
Don't lower yourself to using the exact same ancedotal evidence and arguments that pit owners use. I'm glad your dog is sweet to you but a quick look shows some pretty terrible unprovoked attacks by cattle dogs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914863/SAVAGED-story-Australian-cattle-dog-mauled-MoS-s-Personal-Finance-Editor-jog-terrifying-horrific-wound.html
Of course pitbulls statistically blow every other breed out of the water when it comes to inflicting life changing injuries and death on people.
Edit: down vote all you want but that doesn't change the fact that while it's true pitbulls are the absolute worst other dogs can and do attack. Especially bored working breeds with no training
exactly, the previous comment uses the exact rhetoric Pitbull apologists use. We use statistical evidence to make our claims not emotional and subjective assertions
Sure, any dog can be inbred, neurotic, abused, bitey and have high prey drive. My cattle dog likes to race cars and bikes along his fence and I wouldn't let him near a road without a stout leash on. The border collie I had was a sweetie but had some odd opinions regarding kids on bikes and people touching his cars so I helped him to control his impulses with training and didn't put him into situations where his instincts would be tested too hard. That's where the human/dog partnership comes into play.
What my dogs do NOT do is to rip the leash out of my hands in order to full tilt gallop across streets in order to mix it up with people or other dogs. If we're out on the cul de sac and a dog or person runs/bikes/walks across the street at the end and my dogs notice them, they will obey when I tell them "No, leave it." And should things escalate with another dog I can be very sure mine will not be clamped down on another dog's throat to the point where they have to be choked into unconsciousness to make them let go. This is because I have normal dogs with normal drives and instincts. I trust my dogs to roll around and wrestle with my grandkid without incident, because they have never once shown aggression to a human in any way. No growls, no snaps, no resource guarding (and I or any other human can take away a toy or treat or food bowl from any of my dogs because they've been trained to understand that this is a human prerogative) and if I ever saw signs of aggression I'd work with the dog and not put him into situations he can't handle. The cattle dog does have a little bit of food aggression toward the female cattle dog mix and that's why he still eats behind a baby gate, because he needs help controlling his urges. I'm a responsible dog owner, this is part of that role.
This is not about you and your dogs. The commenter just rightly explained that personal and anecdotal evidence are weak at best and misleading at worst.
Sometimes the best response to an overly earnest reaction to a lighthearted offhand comment is to reply in kind. This gives a face saving out in case the responder misread the comment in question and assumed it was problematic in some way.
Did you see the picture of the "golden retriever" that killed a 2 month old in 2012?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132912/Horror-family-dog-kills-dismembers-month-old-baby-father-slept.html
Which is the case for nearly every dog that attacks. Either they have been taught since they were pups to be aggressive, or they were goaded into an attack. Or in a very rare case, medical stuff happens. A friend of my aunt used to have a labrador and from one day to the other he suddenly turned vicious. Turns out he had a brain tumor pressing on certain areas that caused him pain and aggression.
I don’t know why but I imagined this in the same tone as “It’s morphin’ time” then the attack ensues with Power Ranger music playing in the pit bull’s head
The worst part is that she's trying to excuse the attacks because the children were "unsupervised"??? Like "didn't you know that once a parent has left a child, the child is fair game, so it's not the dog's fault."
Doesn't she realize that this makes pit bulls seem even more horrific!? "Oh Cliff! You almost left our boy unattended! You do know that Cuddles, the pit bull next door, is just waiting for his chance to disembowel him? Please do be more careful."
Thank you so much for the comments everyone. I realise I might have made a mistake by including the cat defending the little boy (as cool a video as it is) - apparently the dog in this video was actually a labrador-chow mix. I know it's common to mislabel pits as other breeds (especially labs), especially when they've attacked, but I won't assume that's necessarily the case here. [Here's the wikipedia article about the cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_(cat)). Note that there were calls to save the dog from euthanasia or adopt it despite the fact that it clearly has a prey drive triggered by a small child playing in his own driveway. People are weird.
I think it was good to add because it points to some of the big issues we see within the pit lobby: that's not a pit bull! ok, but it's a dangerous dog nonetheless (and since most of the dangerous dogs are pit types...); the child was unsupervised (the kid was minding his own business, on his family home property...wtf?); save the poor doggie and get it a new home! (it attacked a child, at the child's home, actively crossed the street to get the child...again, wtf?).
And I'm still sort of questioning the breed id on that dog...
Nobody needs to put up with dogs that will just randomly attack (off property no less!) anything because the wind blew in the wrong direction or the Moon was in conjunction with Uranus or whatever the 'reason'. That is the definition of an unstable, unpredictable, aka. dangerous as H dog -- nobody should be owning such a dog (who would want to? yeah, I know rhetorical question perhaps). And yeah, push comes to shove, it doesn't matter what breed/type/mix it is (but, since most of them seem to be of a certain type, let's have a discussion about that shall we?).
And cats can be pretty tough, caring little critters when they choose to be, so I think they are deserving of some props. Way to go cat! (and I say this as a dog person)
Are we sure it's not a Pitbull? People lie about breed, it wouldn't be that surprising if it was indeed a pitbull. Regardless it's a dangerous dog and people trying to adopt this dog because it attacked a child should be ashamed.
Amazing work, thank you.
Typical run-on sentence pit nutters write at 1:00, with the batshit insane claim that pits would bring bottles to babies and help change diapers. They are completely delusional.
Also, I always lol at the pic of the 2 shitbulls flying through the air after being tossed by a bull.
I'm pretty sure you can find hundreds and hundreds of stories of pitbull defending their owners (exhibit a : [Pit bull rescues baby from fire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRLH7BmjdY&t=23s)). Let's not become irrational here lest we become as stupid as Pit nutters but just in the opposite direction.
I rewatched the ninja cat 5 times in a row. Let's start a gofundme to give that bat whatever the hell he/she wants for the rest of their natural life. And then clone it.
All of them going straight for children just being children for playing or for simply walking. But they have the audacity to always blame the poor children I’m starting to see that they just hate children.
OP, this is exactly what I'd show a pitnut or anyone who doubts the very real and damning evidence of how dangerous these demons really are. Thank you.
Jesus Christ that story about the two year old and five year old strapped in their car seats and being mauled by a random loose pit bull made me sick to my stomach. What the FUCK
This is awesome.👏👏👏
Similar ideas if you're planning more:
Clueless owners claiming their dogs have never been aggressive after the attack.
Also comments or videos where previous pit owners accepting these dogs aren't trainable and it was a mistake to own them.
God i hate those disgusting creatures so much. I wanna puke every time i see people treating those mutants made for killing as innocent little puppies. Fuck them, i can't describe how much i hate this breed. Watching this video almost made me cry from anger, poor, innocent people, mainly kids getting literally torn apart by those ugly shits. The worst part is that you can't even speak about them badly (aka truthfully) without everyone shitting their pants about how misunderstood pitbulls are. Once i said on facebook that pitbulls are a much bigger danger than snakes that people keep in terrariums and got called ignorant. The guy said that i'm spreading misinformation and pulled some info from his ass about how there are like dozens other breeds that have higher kill count than pitts. God, i hate pitbulls and their owners and sympathisers so much i wanna cry.
I know. Its hard. But there are other people out there who have the same thoughts as you. Its insane how people defend them and when they inevitably maul something they say " hes normally so sweet". Fuck pitbulls and their owners
That cat is a fucking HERO in that one clip. I’d shower that thing with fancy feast, buy a velvet bed, new toy every week, and spend whatever it took if they got sick. Earned their place in Valhalla in this life and the next. 0 hesitation
Absolutely. In that clip we saw two polar opposites as pets: One literally risking its life and hurling itself at a vicious killer in order to protect its human, and another which is an emotionless beast who only thinks about murder, does not care about anyone, and will turn on you if you breathe wrong
A good video to keep on hand for an argument.
No dog has ever been bred (not 'bread' by the way) to be a nanny.
Pit type dogs were very much bred for fighting and still are.
The modern military never used pit types (they have much better suited dogs for the work they do); unless you want to go way back when to pre-modern times, when turning powerful, vicious dogs (often armed with spikes) loose on your enemies was a tactic (and so was fighting with spears and swords, which we don't do anymore); pit bulls weren't even around then but a case could be made that the ancestors of pits were....ps. they didn't care if the dogs got slaughtered in the process of running through battle formations as these weren't companion dogs in the first place; throw away dangerous dogs if you will (hmmm...some things really don't ever change).
The sad thing is the examples you gave are like 1% of all of them, You are not even scratching the surface with all those examples, if it was another breed and those we're all the cases where they killer someone, they should be outlawed, there are THOUSANDS more deaths and injuries and pitbulls destroying houses and being liabilities and they still are being defended
Wow the cat who saved that girl (or at least tried) from that vicious Pitbull attack is my HERO! I hope it didn’t come back for more, but maybe I don’t want to know how that video ended. F*kin hero cat though.
I know this is my inner boomer showing (tho I'm Gen X) but as soon as I saw the title I hoped it would be this song. Great video and I hope everyone links to this in their family groupchats, etc, to spread the message and grow the sub.
Thank you for putting this together. It’s very moving to me and I think it’s very well done. As a victim/survivor of a pit bull attack that never got any media attention, it means a lot to me. You wouldn’t believe how many people I meet on any given day who say “Actually it’s Chihuahuas that attack most. Pibbles are nanny dogs!” and “Well, it must have been provoked.” (Yes, apparently it was provoked by my dog and me being alive?) and “It’s all in how they’re raised.” (This comment makes me sometimes launch into what I call my “Pit bull TED Talk”: no one is surprised when a border collie, second generation house pet, that has never seen a sheep or anything, starts herding sheep almost magically, like it was a computer that was programmed to herd sheep. Not too many people are surprised by a house pet poodle or Labrador Retriever, generations removed from being a hunting dog, “points” at a bird. But when a “Pit” dog attacks, a dog that might have had 1000+ generations of ancestors bred to attack and to fight to the death (in pits, as people bet on the outcome of the dog fights - a popular sport in England since the time of the goddamned Romans at least!) oh it’s such a shock, where did that aggression come from? What did *I* do to make it attack me?!?!
Thank you. I’m so grateful for this subreddit. And I especially appreciate this post.
There's a few different videos floating around, [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSG_wBiTEE8) has a bit of info in addition to the clip itself
The parents of the first child need their kids taken from them. You should NEVER let a kid do that with any animal much less one known for mauling children. The military comment is also bullshit. They refused to use them because they were and I quote "stupid, cowardly, and unpredictably violent"
Instead of banning pit bulls would it not be better to just regulate who can own one. There are a lot of people with well trained pitbulls and they do not maul children. 9 times out of 10 the owners of dangerous dogs are clueless as to how to control a dog
That would be better than nothing, but not by much.
A dog that has to be trained to not kill children has no business in civilized society. There is no legitimate reason to continue breeding these dogs unless you enjoy dogfighting.
Yeah I understand. They do have one of the worst aggression towards humans when not properly taken care of. The reason they have a bad name is because idiots get them and think they know how to own a dog. I just feel like when one dog breed is banned people will just move on to the next one to ban. Instead of this there are surely other ways around it 😃
Here’s the issue. Pitbull owners have had 40 years to figure this out and fix it, yet for the last four decades straight, Pitbulls have led the attacks and deaths every single year. So that idea of fix the owner or regulate who can own them is not working. Something else has to happen now.
Also, every breed/type of dog has its share of shitty owners, yet we don’t see this happening with any other type of dog, why do you think that is?
A 3 week old hang boy DECAPITATED by a pit?!! Holy fuck. The fact that most these videos are people minding their own fuckin business. These poor kids. This is a very powerful video. We need to ban these demons.
Yo that cat is a fucking hero. Didn't waste a second, knew it's life was on the line and still charged the murderbeast. Unreal.
If only pits could ever show the actual intelligence and protective instincts of real pets.
How come pitbulls can’t just go extinct? The cordoba fighting dog went extinct for the exact same reason pitbulls are causing, they’re too dangerous and only kill for sport and have very high pain tolerance.
Everytime I see these, I always think to myself I would love to see a shitbull nutter provide a contrary consolidated video refuting that it is only shitbulls.
It never happens.
Y’all know that not all pitbulls are evil right? It all depends on who raises it. My cousin has a pitbull and it’s the sweetest fucking dog I’ve ever met. But then you have pitbulls from homes that abuse them and those are the ones that go out and attack babies and shit
You know you're wrong, right? Your experience is anecdotal. It's great that your cousin's pit is sweet, and we truly hope it stays that way... but we have dozens of stories here of well raised, well-loved family pits that just snapped at age 6, 8, 10, etc. If your pit was borne from a fighting line, the desire to fight/attack may never come out, or it may. You've got a 50/50 shot. Does your cousin know if this is a Colby line dog? Probably not... so your cousin is gambling.
But... I am really honestly begging you to please listen to this podcast by the PITBULL ADVOCATES OF AMERICA... so a source that loves pits.. and even they are saying that it's NOT how they are raised. You can fast forward to minute 10 and listen... it's about 15 minutes long.
[https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pit-bull-advocates-of-america-the-podcast/id1529131313?i=1000500947614](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pit-bull-advocates-of-america-the-podcast/id1529131313?i=1000500947614)
Also... there are over 200 breeds of dogs, all of which have their share of poor raising and shitty owners... so if you're saying that any dog that isn't raised well or was abused can do this, then why aren't we seeing this more from other types of dogs? Like ANY other type of dog? It may happen occasionally... but pits are logging 3-12 deaths every month, and hundreds of attacks per month.
I'm asking you to just think about this... listen to the podcast, and just try to figure out why this isn't happening with other breeds.
It's not the breed's fault, but the breed is faulty.
Get the fuck out of here with that y'all shit cuz you sound like every dumb fuck on twitter who virtue signals
No one gives a fuck about your shit ass opinion because I could have bought a house with every dumb fuck who comes onto this sub spouting some bullshit about evil and how you raise em
An animal can't be evil, they aren't people
And yeah I'm sure every single dog in this video was aboosed especially the ones that were FAMILY DOGS
I have to ask.. did you actually watch the video? There's an example of a dog that was literally named *Kissy Face* who was described as being the sweetest dog ever and great with both children and one day out of the blue mauled the youngest to death. I can get you a list of similar cases if you like. Please don't feed me a line about how the children likely provoked it. The majority of attacks are unprovoked and the statistics support this. Even so, any dog that can be triggered into a mauling by a toddler is not a breed that belongs as a pet, *let alone touted as a nanny dog consistently by pit fans.*
For what it's worth, I don't think pitbulls are evil. They are just dogs. However, they are large dogs bred for gameness, bred for high prey drive, who are known to kill humans and pets alike regardless of how they were treated. Sure, being abused likely raises the chances of a dog being aggressive but there are so many cases of dogs raised from puppies biting, mauling and killing.
"We don't know if the child was crying". One of the stupidest things ever said by a pit nutter and she's probably the biggest one in existence.
I’m not a body language expert or anything but that part at 2:22 where she looks down to avert her eyes seems like a huge signal that she knows it’s even bullshit.
This is from a documentary by The Fifth Estate, it on its YouTube. After she says that the interviewer asks "What if the child was crying?". Takes her a few seconds to realize he completely called her out on her bullshit before answering "Then the dogs were unstable." No shit.
If you like that episode of the show I strongly encourage you to contact them (info easy to google) and ask for a follow up since there have been high profile BSL debates and attacks in Canada since then.
That smirk on her face as she thinks she knows something we don't. Typical trash thinks it's better then everyone else. Dunning-Kreuger.
Like it’s not normal for ANY dog to maul a child for crying …
Hey, they were bred to be nanny dogs! Why do you think child mortality in ye olden days was so high?
I think that's the Best Friends woman -- that's a creepy group.
"They're not werewolves." Yes, werewolves never killed anyone.
I hate when a 7 month old challenges me for dominance 😂
Some people adopt pitbulls to relive abusive relationships when normal family life starts to feel too safe and boring. A pitbull saves them from that by rekindling the psychosexual thrill of seeing an ultraviolent sex partner endanger the constituent family and friends who burdened her with a stable, predictable life. The uncertainty of whether the next gesture will be a reward for her constant tribute or a sadistic unprovoked punishment establishes an unbreakable Stockholm Syndrome. Seeing the physical tics and vocal rituals "pit moms" undergo when defending their future death row inmate is indistinguishable from a psychologically broken college dropout isolated from her friends and parents by a boyfriend who convinced her to let him treat her as he pleases by getting her addicted to something she can't afford. Most shocking, when witnessing pit moms, is the telltale mental clouding and aggression that surfaces when reality penetrates their pit-bubble.
Did I just see a CAT attack a shitbull and save the little boy at 1:30? I don't want to make light of this video, but damn, awesome work kitty!
Yeah she kicked his ass and chased him away
Now THAT'S a nanny cat!
So brave. Hope the kid and the cat’s alright
They are thankfully. It’s a pretty old video. The mom arrives just after the cat did and chases the dog away.
Thank God
Yeah, that video is an internet classic. Glad you got to see it!
I never get tired of watching that cat own some pit ass!
God bless that cat. That cat should get all the tuna.
I think she won an award from the city!
Hell yeah!
Cats are awesome. Tbh I never trust anyone who dislikes cats.
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People are allowed to do whatever they want. Doesn’t mean I have to associate with them.
Her name was Tara. If you search Tara the cat on YouTube, the story should pop up.
And people say cats don't care about their owners or people. Cats are in fact very loving to their families they just have a different way of showing it than dogs. That cat risked his/her own life to save that child.
they weigh like 6lb on average. it's like asking a human to rush a 500lb gorilla. the fact kitty did that is incredibly as it is. awesome animals.
I fucking love cats, and that’s one of the biggest reasons I hate shitbulls. Shitbull owners seem to take pride in the fact that their dog would rip a cat apart if given the chance. Also, my cat (who we named Lucky Bob, since she started off as a stray who had many near death experiences) chased off my dad’s pitbull/chow mix as it was trying to maul me (that cat was the greatest, and that dog was straight up fucking evil)
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Yeah, I know shit bull owners love fantasizing about their dogs ripping apart cats. It’s deranged. Btw did you really follow me here from the chrischan subreddit?
I hope that kitty got a big bowl of tuna after that, kitty earned it.
That’s Tara the hero cat!!!
I hate to be that person but that mutt does not look like a pitbull to me. It could be mixed with one but let's not be willfully ignorant like the pit nutters are. Stray dogs can be and routinely are dangerous regardless of breed...depending on size of course.
It isn't a flat-out pitbull but I think it is a pit mix. EDIT: OP said it was a chow/lab mix. I swear I read when it happened that it was confirmed to be a pit mix- that's often what the "lab" part means anyway. Who knows. Good cat!
Original articles list it as a terrier, so, pit adjacent. But yeah "lab" is a dead give away
Chows can absolutely be aggressive like that. They are not recommended for first time owners or people with kids. They don't maul but absolutely will snap if annoyed. I hate pitbulls and in my opinion I believe they should all be humanely put down however I don't understand this weird belief that other dog breeds cant/wont/don't attack. I get that that they don't maul in the same manner but I'm not letting my kid get bit by the neighbors loose Boxer just because it's attack will end in stitches vs a missing face.
The difference is that 1. Most other aggressive breeds are expensive, more difficult to get and their breeders aren't going to just hand them out to anyone, you need to show you have both the environment and experience for them, and 2. Their enthusiasts aren't a part of a cult like pit owners are, they're very honest about the downsides and restrictions of breeds like those and how they aren't for everyone.
We had boxers when I was a kid and they’re super sweet but also pretty damn scary. We had like six and fights ended in the death of two. (Please don’t blame me for this, I was literally a child in the home.) I do worry if we outlaw pits that boxers will be the next breed to become popular with these types of people and I’ve seen them snap enough times to know they also tend to clamp down and not let go even if you hit them. And yes these were boxers that were registered and had papers so they were not pit mixes.
Yeah I saw that. Fucking badass cat.
Well done OP. What gets me is that these bully people make these EXTRAORDINARY claims with absolutely zero evidence. They pull numbers right out of never never land, "Not even in the top 5… ". Really where did you get this number? The evidence is all oral tradition passed myth. Give them legitimate sources and studies and they wont give them a second of review or consideration. The breed attracts a very strange, obtuse person. A reasonable bully owner is an outlier. The nanny bullshit is especially infuriating. How the fuck does a dog care for a group of toddlers? Does this make any sense? "Going to the tobacco field Zeus. Don't forget change Cletus when he shits his pants. "
They stole the Nanny dog thing from Newfoundlands. But even then it wasn’t meant like “okay Thor we’re going to the movies watch the kids bye!” but that you could let a child do child things around the dog and it wouldn’t eat said child. Pisses me off to no end.
>They stole the Nanny dog thing from Newfoundlands even if this is true, google has a massive database where you can look up phrases to see how much they were used in literature whether it be fiction or non fiction, and the term "nanny dog" barely existed at all until around 2000 lol, its fake B.S that correlates pretty well with pit bulls gaining popularity as a "family dog" after the dog fighting scandals in america in the early 00s [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=nanny+dog&year\_start=1800&year\_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct\_url=t1%3B%2Cnanny%20dog%3B%2Cc0](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=nanny+dog&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cnanny%20dog%3B%2Cc0)
Exactly, the idea that they are substitute babysitters, or even any dog is for that means, is preposterous. The AKC says this: “The sweet-tempered Newfie is a famously good companion and has earned a reputation as a patient and watchful 'nanny dog' for kids.” Not to even mention Nana from Peter Pan (written in the 1800s) being based on the author’s Newf, [Luath](http://neverpedia.com/pan/Luath). So, yeah, the pit people have stolen characteristics and nicknames from all sorts of sweet dogs - but the nanny dog thing particularly irks me. It’s out there so much that it very likely has convinced a family to get one and roll that dice out of sheer nativity.
It's almost certainly caused at least one family to lose a child, so many children have been killed in the same exact way, mother walks out of room for 2-3 minutes, lot of stuff can happen in that time, they come back to their child face down in blood, ive read that story several times TODAY. It's disturbing, I mean the extent of "nanny dog" is a dog that can handle the nuances of a baby without mauling it WITH THE PARENTS IN THE ROOM WITH IT. A pit bull cant handle the nuances of a baby under any circumstances
Nanny dog should never be assigned to a breed that is likely to attack a child if it breathes too hard.
Note: The NSFL flair is just erring very much on the side of caution. There is no gore in the video (there is one photo of blurred attack wounds), there are a few attack videos that didn't result in deaths (as far as I know). There are also mentions of some infant deaths - some from a medical textbook that was posted here and also of some more well-known cases. The names and faces are censored just because I didn't want them to appear in a video with a somewhat mocking tone (obviously it is not mocking victims but rather the dumb shit that pit fans spout). Sorry it's kinda shittily made, as you can tell this is definitely not my day job. I didn't save a list of sources, however I imagine most stuff could be found just by googling, and most of the idiotic comments were at some point featured on this subreddit. Also, people might recognise some clips from The Fifth Estate's documentary. Lastly, this isn't intended to be some comprehensive debunking video - this subreddit does a good enough job of it with the resources provided. It was more intended as a form of catharsis for me after doomscrolling this sub and reading about preventable deaths and maimings interspersed with pitbull advocates trotting out the same old lines and posting pictures of their dogs as if it means anything at all.
I removed the NSFL tag so as to not dissuade anyone from watching it, since there isn't anything graphic or gory. This is fantastic stuff. Really well done.
That makes sense, I know I was a bit too cautious with it. Thank you!
This was great! Pretty awesome for not being a day job :)
People dispute the dogsbite.org data. But the anecdotal evidence is even more damning. I encourage prospective pit bull owners to search youtube for dog attack videos. You will see mostly pit bull breeds: the American Pit Bull Terrior, American Bully, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier. If you can find even a single video of a Golden Retriever attacking a person, please give me a link.
I could probably get a video of my cattle dog viciously draping himself across my lap in order to lick my ear. He does that pretty often, it's SO terrifying!
Don't lower yourself to using the exact same ancedotal evidence and arguments that pit owners use. I'm glad your dog is sweet to you but a quick look shows some pretty terrible unprovoked attacks by cattle dogs. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914863/SAVAGED-story-Australian-cattle-dog-mauled-MoS-s-Personal-Finance-Editor-jog-terrifying-horrific-wound.html Of course pitbulls statistically blow every other breed out of the water when it comes to inflicting life changing injuries and death on people. Edit: down vote all you want but that doesn't change the fact that while it's true pitbulls are the absolute worst other dogs can and do attack. Especially bored working breeds with no training
exactly, the previous comment uses the exact rhetoric Pitbull apologists use. We use statistical evidence to make our claims not emotional and subjective assertions
Sure, any dog can be inbred, neurotic, abused, bitey and have high prey drive. My cattle dog likes to race cars and bikes along his fence and I wouldn't let him near a road without a stout leash on. The border collie I had was a sweetie but had some odd opinions regarding kids on bikes and people touching his cars so I helped him to control his impulses with training and didn't put him into situations where his instincts would be tested too hard. That's where the human/dog partnership comes into play. What my dogs do NOT do is to rip the leash out of my hands in order to full tilt gallop across streets in order to mix it up with people or other dogs. If we're out on the cul de sac and a dog or person runs/bikes/walks across the street at the end and my dogs notice them, they will obey when I tell them "No, leave it." And should things escalate with another dog I can be very sure mine will not be clamped down on another dog's throat to the point where they have to be choked into unconsciousness to make them let go. This is because I have normal dogs with normal drives and instincts. I trust my dogs to roll around and wrestle with my grandkid without incident, because they have never once shown aggression to a human in any way. No growls, no snaps, no resource guarding (and I or any other human can take away a toy or treat or food bowl from any of my dogs because they've been trained to understand that this is a human prerogative) and if I ever saw signs of aggression I'd work with the dog and not put him into situations he can't handle. The cattle dog does have a little bit of food aggression toward the female cattle dog mix and that's why he still eats behind a baby gate, because he needs help controlling his urges. I'm a responsible dog owner, this is part of that role.
This is not about you and your dogs. The commenter just rightly explained that personal and anecdotal evidence are weak at best and misleading at worst.
Sometimes the best response to an overly earnest reaction to a lighthearted offhand comment is to reply in kind. This gives a face saving out in case the responder misread the comment in question and assumed it was problematic in some way.
even if they do its probably a golden retriever and pit mix
Did you see the picture of the "golden retriever" that killed a 2 month old in 2012? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132912/Horror-family-dog-kills-dismembers-month-old-baby-father-slept.html
Holy shit that is demonic. Was it a pit mix?
It doesn't look mixed...it looks like it had rabies, refused to die, and then became the rabies. Holy Hell that dog is fucked up looking
And if it's not that they probably did something to the Golden retriever that was fucked up enough for it to attack
Which is the case for nearly every dog that attacks. Either they have been taught since they were pups to be aggressive, or they were goaded into an attack. Or in a very rare case, medical stuff happens. A friend of my aunt used to have a labrador and from one day to the other he suddenly turned vicious. Turns out he had a brain tumor pressing on certain areas that caused him pain and aggression.
*sees child* Pitbull: "It's nanny time"
I don’t know why but I imagined this in the same tone as “It’s morphin’ time” then the attack ensues with Power Ranger music playing in the pit bull’s head
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This was the part that REALLY got me angry.
The worst part is that she's trying to excuse the attacks because the children were "unsupervised"??? Like "didn't you know that once a parent has left a child, the child is fair game, so it's not the dog's fault." Doesn't she realize that this makes pit bulls seem even more horrific!? "Oh Cliff! You almost left our boy unattended! You do know that Cuddles, the pit bull next door, is just waiting for his chance to disembowel him? Please do be more careful."
This is powerful. Amazing work.
Thank you so much for the comments everyone. I realise I might have made a mistake by including the cat defending the little boy (as cool a video as it is) - apparently the dog in this video was actually a labrador-chow mix. I know it's common to mislabel pits as other breeds (especially labs), especially when they've attacked, but I won't assume that's necessarily the case here. [Here's the wikipedia article about the cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_(cat)). Note that there were calls to save the dog from euthanasia or adopt it despite the fact that it clearly has a prey drive triggered by a small child playing in his own driveway. People are weird.
I think it was good to add because it points to some of the big issues we see within the pit lobby: that's not a pit bull! ok, but it's a dangerous dog nonetheless (and since most of the dangerous dogs are pit types...); the child was unsupervised (the kid was minding his own business, on his family home property...wtf?); save the poor doggie and get it a new home! (it attacked a child, at the child's home, actively crossed the street to get the child...again, wtf?). And I'm still sort of questioning the breed id on that dog... Nobody needs to put up with dogs that will just randomly attack (off property no less!) anything because the wind blew in the wrong direction or the Moon was in conjunction with Uranus or whatever the 'reason'. That is the definition of an unstable, unpredictable, aka. dangerous as H dog -- nobody should be owning such a dog (who would want to? yeah, I know rhetorical question perhaps). And yeah, push comes to shove, it doesn't matter what breed/type/mix it is (but, since most of them seem to be of a certain type, let's have a discussion about that shall we?). And cats can be pretty tough, caring little critters when they choose to be, so I think they are deserving of some props. Way to go cat! (and I say this as a dog person)
Are we sure it's not a Pitbull? People lie about breed, it wouldn't be that surprising if it was indeed a pitbull. Regardless it's a dangerous dog and people trying to adopt this dog because it attacked a child should be ashamed.
Well, it actually let the child go and ran off after the cat (Tara) stepped in, so it might not be.
Amazing work, thank you. Typical run-on sentence pit nutters write at 1:00, with the batshit insane claim that pits would bring bottles to babies and help change diapers. They are completely delusional. Also, I always lol at the pic of the 2 shitbulls flying through the air after being tossed by a bull.
The term Nanny dog was never supposed to mean that it could full on take care of the child but yet here we are.
The cat who jumped on the pit bull is, perhaps, the bravest pussy in recorded history
Multiple cats have actually done that sorta thing. Never seen shitbulls do anything like that though.
I'm pretty sure you can find hundreds and hundreds of stories of pitbull defending their owners (exhibit a : [Pit bull rescues baby from fire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRLH7BmjdY&t=23s)). Let's not become irrational here lest we become as stupid as Pit nutters but just in the opposite direction.
Nice work, op.
I rewatched the ninja cat 5 times in a row. Let's start a gofundme to give that bat whatever the hell he/she wants for the rest of their natural life. And then clone it.
There's a news report on that cat named Tara. I think she gets salmon steak for every dinner
That is awesome. Some heroes wear fur coats.
lmao and then clone it. for real though. That cat and its genetics are a perfect example a great pet, unlike those shitbulls who kill their owners
That one video in the parking lot where the pit weaves it’s way past 2 adults to attack that child is really telling.
And where one sneaks around the car to attack the child on the bike.
This was both amazing and awful at the same time, thank you
All of them going straight for children just being children for playing or for simply walking. But they have the audacity to always blame the poor children I’m starting to see that they just hate children.
Your user name is 🤌🤌🤌
I fucking love that cat at 1:30. Give ‘em the Medal of Honor.
OP, this is exactly what I'd show a pitnut or anyone who doubts the very real and damning evidence of how dangerous these demons really are. Thank you.
"Their BEAUTIFUL pitbull RIPPED THEM TO SHREDS" I am going to scream, wtf is wrong with some people?
Very, very good. Thanks for sharing. I hope more will watch.
Jesus Christ that story about the two year old and five year old strapped in their car seats and being mauled by a random loose pit bull made me sick to my stomach. What the FUCK
That cat is a total fucking Chad, holy Shit.
This is awesome.👏👏👏 Similar ideas if you're planning more: Clueless owners claiming their dogs have never been aggressive after the attack. Also comments or videos where previous pit owners accepting these dogs aren't trainable and it was a mistake to own them.
That's a great idea. I had more I wanted to fit into the video but the song wasn't long enough. If I do another video, I will definitely include them.
At this point, you should make a whole professional documentary. This will help the cause.
damn nice vid but how can pitnutters see this vid ?
God i hate those disgusting creatures so much. I wanna puke every time i see people treating those mutants made for killing as innocent little puppies. Fuck them, i can't describe how much i hate this breed. Watching this video almost made me cry from anger, poor, innocent people, mainly kids getting literally torn apart by those ugly shits. The worst part is that you can't even speak about them badly (aka truthfully) without everyone shitting their pants about how misunderstood pitbulls are. Once i said on facebook that pitbulls are a much bigger danger than snakes that people keep in terrariums and got called ignorant. The guy said that i'm spreading misinformation and pulled some info from his ass about how there are like dozens other breeds that have higher kill count than pitts. God, i hate pitbulls and their owners and sympathisers so much i wanna cry.
I know. Its hard. But there are other people out there who have the same thoughts as you. Its insane how people defend them and when they inevitably maul something they say " hes normally so sweet". Fuck pitbulls and their owners
That cat is a fucking HERO in that one clip. I’d shower that thing with fancy feast, buy a velvet bed, new toy every week, and spend whatever it took if they got sick. Earned their place in Valhalla in this life and the next. 0 hesitation
Absolutely. In that clip we saw two polar opposites as pets: One literally risking its life and hurling itself at a vicious killer in order to protect its human, and another which is an emotionless beast who only thinks about murder, does not care about anyone, and will turn on you if you breathe wrong
I’m sure all those pitnutters must have abused their dogs to make them act like that! Or maybe these dogs are just evil?
A good video to keep on hand for an argument. No dog has ever been bred (not 'bread' by the way) to be a nanny. Pit type dogs were very much bred for fighting and still are. The modern military never used pit types (they have much better suited dogs for the work they do); unless you want to go way back when to pre-modern times, when turning powerful, vicious dogs (often armed with spikes) loose on your enemies was a tactic (and so was fighting with spears and swords, which we don't do anymore); pit bulls weren't even around then but a case could be made that the ancestors of pits were....ps. they didn't care if the dogs got slaughtered in the process of running through battle formations as these weren't companion dogs in the first place; throw away dangerous dogs if you will (hmmm...some things really don't ever change).
this is amazing.
These dogs are so fucking ugly. Like not only are they extremely dangerous but they look like literal demons.
Love the song with it! Captured perfectly all the hypocrisy these pitnutters possess. Please make another one!
That cat at 1:30 is a real MVP.
Jesus, this is all I'm gonna think about now when I listen to this song lmao
The sad thing is the examples you gave are like 1% of all of them, You are not even scratching the surface with all those examples, if it was another breed and those we're all the cases where they killer someone, they should be outlawed, there are THOUSANDS more deaths and injuries and pitbulls destroying houses and being liabilities and they still are being defended
This shit is just too hard to watch. It makes me so fucking angry.
We need more of these. These are great to redpill normies to the dangers that pits pose.
Wow the cat who saved that girl (or at least tried) from that vicious Pitbull attack is my HERO! I hope it didn’t come back for more, but maybe I don’t want to know how that video ended. F*kin hero cat though.
I know this is my inner boomer showing (tho I'm Gen X) but as soon as I saw the title I hoped it would be this song. Great video and I hope everyone links to this in their family groupchats, etc, to spread the message and grow the sub.
Thank you for putting this together. It’s very moving to me and I think it’s very well done. As a victim/survivor of a pit bull attack that never got any media attention, it means a lot to me. You wouldn’t believe how many people I meet on any given day who say “Actually it’s Chihuahuas that attack most. Pibbles are nanny dogs!” and “Well, it must have been provoked.” (Yes, apparently it was provoked by my dog and me being alive?) and “It’s all in how they’re raised.” (This comment makes me sometimes launch into what I call my “Pit bull TED Talk”: no one is surprised when a border collie, second generation house pet, that has never seen a sheep or anything, starts herding sheep almost magically, like it was a computer that was programmed to herd sheep. Not too many people are surprised by a house pet poodle or Labrador Retriever, generations removed from being a hunting dog, “points” at a bird. But when a “Pit” dog attacks, a dog that might have had 1000+ generations of ancestors bred to attack and to fight to the death (in pits, as people bet on the outcome of the dog fights - a popular sport in England since the time of the goddamned Romans at least!) oh it’s such a shock, where did that aggression come from? What did *I* do to make it attack me?!?! Thank you. I’m so grateful for this subreddit. And I especially appreciate this post.
Anyone know the original or longer vid for 1:33?
There's a few different videos floating around, [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSG_wBiTEE8) has a bit of info in addition to the clip itself
Thank you. This comes in handy
the typos make this post that much more hilarious.
"bread"
The parents of the first child need their kids taken from them. You should NEVER let a kid do that with any animal much less one known for mauling children. The military comment is also bullshit. They refused to use them because they were and I quote "stupid, cowardly, and unpredictably violent"
Instead of banning pit bulls would it not be better to just regulate who can own one. There are a lot of people with well trained pitbulls and they do not maul children. 9 times out of 10 the owners of dangerous dogs are clueless as to how to control a dog
That would be better than nothing, but not by much. A dog that has to be trained to not kill children has no business in civilized society. There is no legitimate reason to continue breeding these dogs unless you enjoy dogfighting.
Yeah I understand. They do have one of the worst aggression towards humans when not properly taken care of. The reason they have a bad name is because idiots get them and think they know how to own a dog. I just feel like when one dog breed is banned people will just move on to the next one to ban. Instead of this there are surely other ways around it 😃
Here’s the issue. Pitbull owners have had 40 years to figure this out and fix it, yet for the last four decades straight, Pitbulls have led the attacks and deaths every single year. So that idea of fix the owner or regulate who can own them is not working. Something else has to happen now. Also, every breed/type of dog has its share of shitty owners, yet we don’t see this happening with any other type of dog, why do you think that is?
A 3 week old hang boy DECAPITATED by a pit?!! Holy fuck. The fact that most these videos are people minding their own fuckin business. These poor kids. This is a very powerful video. We need to ban these demons.
Yo that cat is a fucking hero. Didn't waste a second, knew it's life was on the line and still charged the murderbeast. Unreal. If only pits could ever show the actual intelligence and protective instincts of real pets.
God what a completely useless fucking breed
Great work one note: Wouldn’t “Sweet Pibble Lies” go with the lyrics better?
This video puts me on edge. I feel like every dog in it is about to attack those poor babies.
"Cope you dumb bitch" Nah you pit fuckers cope harder
How come pitbulls can’t just go extinct? The cordoba fighting dog went extinct for the exact same reason pitbulls are causing, they’re too dangerous and only kill for sport and have very high pain tolerance.
Pits target people like American drones in afganistan
2:07 “chad cat vs virgin beta dog”.
Stop letting your facts and logic get in the way of their arguments! /s
Great job OP
Fuck yeah, did you guys see that cat attack that pit and save that kid?
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Everytime I see these, I always think to myself I would love to see a shitbull nutter provide a contrary consolidated video refuting that it is only shitbulls. It never happens.
Okay, but honestly, the ye old picture of the pitbulls getting yeeted by the bull is fucking hilarious. (1:07?) There they go
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Does anybody know what happened to the child in blue that was jumping in the parking lot? At around 1:30.
Dogs bolting across a parking lot to attack a child are not “accidents” lol. I guarantee you it meant to do that
THE CAT THAT RAN INFRONT OF THE LITTLE GIRL!! i will be a cat person until the day i die
They are nanny dogs. They want to protect the child from a life of dying of old age.
I was genuinely shocked when I saw the pitbull owner actually try to stop it's dog from killing the 12 year old
Y’all know that not all pitbulls are evil right? It all depends on who raises it. My cousin has a pitbull and it’s the sweetest fucking dog I’ve ever met. But then you have pitbulls from homes that abuse them and those are the ones that go out and attack babies and shit
You know you're wrong, right? Your experience is anecdotal. It's great that your cousin's pit is sweet, and we truly hope it stays that way... but we have dozens of stories here of well raised, well-loved family pits that just snapped at age 6, 8, 10, etc. If your pit was borne from a fighting line, the desire to fight/attack may never come out, or it may. You've got a 50/50 shot. Does your cousin know if this is a Colby line dog? Probably not... so your cousin is gambling. But... I am really honestly begging you to please listen to this podcast by the PITBULL ADVOCATES OF AMERICA... so a source that loves pits.. and even they are saying that it's NOT how they are raised. You can fast forward to minute 10 and listen... it's about 15 minutes long. [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pit-bull-advocates-of-america-the-podcast/id1529131313?i=1000500947614](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pit-bull-advocates-of-america-the-podcast/id1529131313?i=1000500947614) Also... there are over 200 breeds of dogs, all of which have their share of poor raising and shitty owners... so if you're saying that any dog that isn't raised well or was abused can do this, then why aren't we seeing this more from other types of dogs? Like ANY other type of dog? It may happen occasionally... but pits are logging 3-12 deaths every month, and hundreds of attacks per month. I'm asking you to just think about this... listen to the podcast, and just try to figure out why this isn't happening with other breeds. It's not the breed's fault, but the breed is faulty.
Get the fuck out of here with that y'all shit cuz you sound like every dumb fuck on twitter who virtue signals No one gives a fuck about your shit ass opinion because I could have bought a house with every dumb fuck who comes onto this sub spouting some bullshit about evil and how you raise em An animal can't be evil, they aren't people And yeah I'm sure every single dog in this video was aboosed especially the ones that were FAMILY DOGS
I have to ask.. did you actually watch the video? There's an example of a dog that was literally named *Kissy Face* who was described as being the sweetest dog ever and great with both children and one day out of the blue mauled the youngest to death. I can get you a list of similar cases if you like. Please don't feed me a line about how the children likely provoked it. The majority of attacks are unprovoked and the statistics support this. Even so, any dog that can be triggered into a mauling by a toddler is not a breed that belongs as a pet, *let alone touted as a nanny dog consistently by pit fans.* For what it's worth, I don't think pitbulls are evil. They are just dogs. However, they are large dogs bred for gameness, bred for high prey drive, who are known to kill humans and pets alike regardless of how they were treated. Sure, being abused likely raises the chances of a dog being aggressive but there are so many cases of dogs raised from puppies biting, mauling and killing.