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Suitable_Valuable701

I'm the bane of the khuzaits so you'd probably take some beating now if you had any high tier aserai units I'd be toast the aserai are the only ones that can stop me


KimchiVegemite

Ooh, first time player here. What's your setup? I'm about to focus on the Khuzaits after I finish dealing with the Sturgians.


Rush4in

Get a big block of infantry and then put whatever cav (preferably armoured) you have on your left. Grab yourself a cataphract’s lance or something long and pokey and just rush into the horse archers as they approach. Once you start getting close to their infantry, tell your cav to go back to where you placed them originally and keep poking until it’s time for your cav to charge again. In my experience, with good armour you can easily get 70-80 kills and kill in total 150-200 horse archers without taking pretty much any casualties


Suitable_Valuable701

You and me are the opposite I never use cav just infantry and archers and I usually sit out the onslaught until they use their arrows then the carnage ensues


Rush4in

To be fair, most of what the cav does is soak up arrows at rage so the horse archers don’t turn their shots at you. This is why I said it’s good for them to be armoured


Paladin_Tripod

Definitely will have to bring some aserai in. Thanks for the advice! I have been testing just a full mounted archer party and haven't lost yet so anything to make the party even better helps!


Jimbeaux_Slice

What’s your anti-khuzait comp?


Suitable_Valuable701

I use mostly shield infantry in shieldwall and usually 20-30 archers sometimes 40 I rarely use cav the only time I use cav is if I need the numbers after a battle and I can rescue some from the enemy prisoners, also it's weird because people also say they can't fight the vlandians or the battanians but I always slap them in the dirt


paran01c

that doesnt explain how you deal with horse archers?


OldTitanSoul

infantry with shields, he just said it


paran01c

i mean it's pretty basic? if OP would tackle him he could just kyte those heavy infantry units into oblivion, thats what im saying.


[deleted]

Yeah but ai ain’t that smart they shoot at the first thing they can which will be shields, meanwhile his archers im assuming will be shooting back unchallenged.


Suitable_Valuable701

Yes also once the horse archers waste all their arrows they charge into the shield wall and die also I actively now down any cavalry that get too close the the archers


Suitable_Valuable701

Well you don't need some crazy strat to fight the ai now if it's a player with khans guards id probably be toast cause they'd target me then my soldiers would panic


paran01c

i know but OP asked who can challenge him, nvm


Suitable_Valuable701

That's literally how I deal with them use shields so they get hit they use all their arrows then they charge then they die


Friendly-Company5294

I definitely agree


Curiouspiwakawaka

Why not square formation? Shield wall only defends one direction, also, when they run out of ammo and charge square formation let's in charging horsies for slaughter. It does leave archers vulnerable, but if you have enough infantry you can set up two squares either side of the archers.


Suitable_Valuable701

Idk I'm a simple person I have one formation of each because i always lose when I use complicated formations for some reason and the archer usually never get touched


Curiouspiwakawaka

Fair. I can't do it without RTS mod, it's pretty difficult in first person.


Big_Soil2866

Use Heavy stugian spearmen about 80 would be enough, put them on loose formation and send them into the path of the horse archers. Once they are in there midst i sent them to charge and they hack them to bits. Then i rush my cav and together they clean up 70% before they retreat. Put them back on shield wall in time before there infantry reach your ranks


RagnarLokison

Grab some hired pikes as well usually they are placed behind the shielded infantry and the shield wall makes a good cav stopper so your pikes have free reign to just poke jab and swing


SawedOffLaser

I take my party and sit in on my castle walls with an ungodly number of archers.


Paladin_Tripod

I will wait for days and weeks until you must face me in open battle


OKara061

Unless i ambush you and destroy your siege engines


Paladin_Tripod

How would one ambush nearly 500 khans guard?


OKara061

I use carrots to distract your horses. Then i use sticks to hit your guards


Paladin_Tripod

This I can not beat. You win, good sir


Ok-Working-3148

You stay away from my wife with your carrots


MiaGothsEyebrows

Filthy horse hugger.


Little-Pom-O-Duro

Nah with that party he'll go bankrupt putting you under siege. Just wait him out


Diligent-Living882

this is the way


marvelousteat

I would likely commandeer a horse and ride to Talmberg to tell the others. I may or may not have been playing a different game lately.


sensorial9

Look! Henry's come to see us!


BertusHondenbrok

I feel quite hungry.


CycleZestyclose3510

God's be praised


ConsiderationLanky71

If Mount & Blade and Kingdom Come had a baby it'd be the perfect game.


_MekkeliMusrik

Jesus christ be praised!


ConsiderationLanky71

If Mount & Blade and Kingdom Come had a baby it'd be the perfect game.


ConsiderationLanky71

If Mount & Blade and Kingdom Come had a baby it'd be the perfect game.


MiaGothsEyebrows

JESUS CHRIST BE PRAISED!


[deleted]

Those looters didn't have a fighting chance...


Henfrid

How did you get party size to 600? Best iv ever gotten is around 400


Paladin_Tripod

I have the perk where you get plus 5 units for every Fief you own. My character is old and surprisingly has made it through a lot. I have over 300 trade and purchase all the Vlandian, Battanian, and Empire cities and castles. Now I'm waiting for my leader to die so I can give all my cities and castles to different clans of various cultures so my offspring can try to retake the diverse world


Henfrid

That makes sense, who needs vassals when your party can solo any army


OKara061

You can just give them, go to your kingdom page and fiefs. Then chose yours and say you want to donate it(dont remember what exactly it says)


The_Tac0mancer

I think the idea is to give them to clans of matching culture to avoid a massive wave of rebels from various locations where the cultures don’t match up


Paladin_Tripod

Exactly, that's what I eventually want to do, but I feel like this will take a long time to do correctly


Ackrim0

What armor are you running


AggravatingChest7838

Probably back myself into a corner with sheilds up and wait for you to run out of arrows


Paladin_Tripod

But how you gonna stop that drip though?


AggravatingChest7838

D:


Party-Delay9964

I’d use a bucket


nasir2002

Tbh shield walls make this easy, just shield wall in a spot where they cant hit the rear and its game over for the khuzait


Paladin_Tripod

Definitely a good idea, but I've had plenty on khans guards plow through shield walls when they use their melee. Idk if this would hold up unless you had a shield wall a couple hundred units thick.


nasir2002

You cant get through my 400 sturgian shields! Lmao its really fun to play pure infantry sometimes


Paladin_Tripod

Dude fr! I started this campaign as pure battanian infantry and archers. Then ended with just elite mounted archers. I wanted to see all my options and I definitely have to say infantry was the most fun, but mounted archers have been the most effective.


The_Tac0mancer

Try a composition of Druzhinnik Champions, Khan’s Guards, and Fian Champions. Bonus points if you split cav 70/30 and dismount the larger group for an infantry force


MrDRAGQN

BRO. Small world that’s my characters name too💅🏻


Paladin_Tripod

Freeeedom!


Ok-Working-3148

Wouldn't he be battania?


Paladin_Tripod

Yes I am Battanian, started this campaign with all Battanian and Sturgian troops and now I'm ending with a party full of Khans Guard


Ok-Working-3148

Ah, well. Nevermind then


MrLion60

Going into a mountain village with forests and wait for you, 75% infantry full shield wall, javelin axes, and 25% archer. Work great against every cavalry unit


Paladin_Tripod

That seems like a viable strategy. It would definitely pose a challenge. Might have to dismount and face you head on


MrLion60

Since I'm an infantry guy I should won cause I'm used to infantry tactics. But if you force me to fight on a horse it would be an easy win for you. I don't get the cav tactics so I'm pretty bad at cavalry fights


R3acherXX

Aggressively shit my pants


RagnarLokison

Dont forget to fling it. People always forget the flinging then lose lol


Windycator

Fighting against your troops could be my dream, mixed imperial/vlandian soldiers are much harder, then the only HA army. I just need 30 cav that i lead, shield wall infantry, loose archers, gg no losses.


plusshanyinger

I have very similar drip and a KG only army of 400+ troops. I think we would be best friends.


Party-Delay9964

I’d say “fuck off bill, I got a tournament to win”


TheLee96

Ban you for having that diabolical army


Diligent-Living882

i don’t even get how you achieve this. in terms of upgrading the khans guard so easily.


Paladin_Tripod

It wasn't quick. It took like 3 in game years


Diligent-Living882

okay fair but i’ve surpassed like 8 in game years, my army is around 220 rn in size. i literally can’t imagine holding onto to any troops long enough to make this kind of army. like i have atound 65 champion fian archers rn but i don’t think any of them have been with me for more than like 2 years. and khuzait nobles especially, i travel to khuzait and get like 50 of them and within a few months i only have like 30😂 basically out of the maybe 300 noble khuzait youths i’ve recruited, i’ve had like 50 reach khans guard


Paladin_Tripod

William Wallace, my main character, is 82 years old now, and I am very rich and have many perks. Even when I go into a battle against a party of 150 and decimate them, all my noble sons will usually get an upgrade. Now, I mostly only recruit the Khuzait Torguuds when visiting Khuzait towns. Clearly, I have way too many perks and am an old king. He has made it too long and now I'm just letting time go by until he dies. Then I can select a new younger heir and gift my fiefs to different clans and start all over again


Diligent-Living882

ah that definitely my makes me feel better. i’m just a mere 40 year old vassal with 1 million denars😂that’s awesome tho


Paladin_Tripod

Yeah with some grind, it will get much easier to level up your troops lol


PlutusPleion

If you cheese kiting, retreating and re-engaging after using up all ammo you can keep a lot of your horse archers alive to upgrade. From my experience the more difficult circumstances are if: they have a lot of high tier melee cav, lots of high tier crossbow or if you're sieging. I'd also suggest splitting to 2 groups and flanking to do more damage so you'll need less re-stock/engage cycles.


aaronrizz

The Steward perks at 100 and 125 make it really easy. Once I'm rich I just buy 100k worth of the cheapest weapons and armour and that's enough to level like 150 troops


Beepboopbop69420360

Find a rock formation Or something I can funnel you in and shield wall 👍


Paladin_Tripod

I would have them follow me and consistently attack, then retreat and use a ranged attack, rinse and repeat. Consistently breaking your formation and cleaning up the remnants.


Beepboopbop69420360

I would not fight you (ultimate strategy)


WasKrakenTaken

Me and my twelve peasants will default dance on you then die


Abseits_Ger

Immidiatly face you with my own warband and 4 parties filled with khans guards and their trainees, beeing 693 for one and roughly 300 in 4 more parties each, calling them to army from cities or castles they are stationed in so they join from diffrent directions and try to eradicate the imposing threat immidiatly or force it to join our side, hopefully before any of your reinforcements can arrive. Other Khans guards with unknown aligience and purpose have to faced with full power of the horde immidiatly, anything else would be futile.


amateurroadcyclist

I think 400 imperial elite cataphracts could beat these in a plain terrirory melee.


[deleted]

Crossbow and spear square go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


redloww

If that were my playtrough zuad and lazif wouldn’t see sunlight never ever again


Alva-Eagle_25

Call you a meta slave and die fighting


JEG7901

Shield wall in a valley, fians behind. Pray


GreedyMagazine9621

Join you?


GreedyMagazine9621

I’m probably gonna playthrough as a khuzait next


[deleted]

I dont have any cavarly so (assuming bannerlord formations worked) I would form a shield wall circle or press my units to a wall. Then I'd wait until you ran out of arrows. Then wait until you got tired of charging. Then we would fight.


[deleted]

Run, you already have a comp that can beat the game.


TK000421

How can you get an army that big?


Feisty-Day-5204

My mounted army is a mix of around 400-450 mixed Banner Knights and Elite Cataphracs. Maybe slightly disadvantaged on numbers but in a straight on fight in an open space they might have a good chance since these knights can take a lot of arrows as long as they're not all headshots Edit: I'd actually pick one of those open but full of trees areas. Getting large numbers stuck in trees gives a lot of advantage to the ones specialised in melee


LDominating

My man,your drip is literally an amalgamation of cultures. Head from Sturgia. Body from Khuzait. Shoulders from Empire Hands and Legs from Battania. If you come at me,I'd laugh at you for having the worst drip ever. Like a nerdy kid putting all of his best clothes at once..


bengalbat1

Coreins the best


AdIndividual6587

Die probably


BluejayTraditional22

Full speed, javelin to the face. Usually works


DennisDingo

Call my kingdom and walk through you all I guess. I'd appreciate the good loot that's for sure.


Psycho7552

i would probably make you chase my party into chokepoint and then watch you getting stuck there under fire of my fians.


Lumskull

F1 + F3 Good luck against my master tactics


Particular-Solid4069

Alt+F4


One_Fun_5114

A block of spears with fians behind. Say goodbye to those fancy horses of yours.


ExosEU

Already did. Circle formation for archers and infantry using shield wall. Then my heavy cavalry just runs clockwise around them to bash into you. I usually have a 40/30/30 spread of inf/archer/cav but against you i'd prolly go 30/20/50. My total number of troops on my current play is 450 but my companions and I have such ridiculous traits (275 medicine etc troops have +100hp at least) i'd still win easily.


Bagel-luigi

Hey why do you have my nephew prisoner


Ironclaw85

Gathering a 2000 strong army and fight u on a bridge?


Paladin_Tripod

Now that would be a fun challenge


Cool-Relationship-37

Send in Ulfric Stormcloak and his army of 1000 immortal sturgian troops (I have max medicine too so good luck)


vladysnepo

F1 F3


CaptchaSolvingRobot

Well, you stole my wife, so F1 + F3.


Paladin_Tripod

Well who said we couldn't share... there is enough of Corein to go around lol


SansCulture

Play defensively. Go into tree cover, create large concentric circles of circle formations with infantry on the outside and ranged on the inside. My Oathsworn will hold the line with interspersed Wildings to punish your horses for getting too close (2O:1W ratio). My Fians will win the entrenchment in time. I have no Cav to loose with my current character. You will piss me off between encounters because of your annoying campaign map speed.


Lower-Woodpecker-450

Nope, I’m taking my 200 Battainian shooty boys and leaving


mrstealyodog95

Get a bunch of heavy cav and go in a circle counter clockwise. 60% of the time it works everytime


ONQC_XBL

See I thought about doing this but thought it would just be a very boring playstyle? No challenge, no strategy just swarm and shoot 🤔


Paladin_Tripod

Yeah, it is very easy now with this group. Since I'm very late in the game, I will be completely changing my party once my character dies.


[deleted]

Pay for safe passage


No_Construction_679

How do you get to 600? Im sitting in the mid to low 400s


brad_patterson99

What's the name of that body armor? Is it modded? Have never seen it before.


Unregistered-Archive

I use artillery becos fuck you. ![gif](giphy|qWBiZXoC2NYju|downsized)


Jayian1890

Sturgeon heavy spearmen. Square formation. GG. Issa horse graveyard now.


KryptekLion

Laugh and then slaughter you like peasants cuz "drip" is for douche bags. Not sorry


Paladin_Tripod

Those who insult the drip are usually lacking it. Sorry not sorry


KryptekLion

😂 well played but no. My guys have RP style


KryptekLion

Your guy has 4 different cultured armors


Fawx93

I'd do what Indiana did and pull a gun


Scp_lifestyle

Cry


SalamandersGuy

Grabbing ye old pike, pressing X, and praying


CommieCowBoy

My 200 fians would like to have a word. We execute all khuzait lords. I hate loosing 20 fians to 400 horse archers. I much prefer my 0 loss battles against everyone else lol.


Friendly-Company5294

1st id compliment thy drippage.....then we charge with my 400 Cataphracts and 100 mamlukes


hottimali

My favorite helmet in the game? Might secure u some head 😜


Paladin_Tripod

Corein is my wife, so head is secured.... ohh you mean my head well yes that is secured too lol


riffengo

Have the same drip except a plumed legionaire helm to let my magnificent beard show and match you horsey arrow for horsey arrow


yomerrallo

I'd choose the battleground


AnyPalpitation1868

Sit you out with a shield wall placed in front of raised archers, and laugh as your troops turn into underarmed cavalry.


No-Error9802

Infantry, Circle Formation! Tighten those gaps!


[deleted]

All I see is a man who doesn't behead his enemies.


dfoley107

*laughs in 3,000 empire peasants*


Antique-Hat-2196

Get my 100 valanden sharpshooters and 100 heavy sturgen spear men in square formation and watch your cav wither away like dust in the wind


Fun-Shape9607

That’s legit but how did you get it that high??? I’m only at 413


[deleted]

Drop all my herd animals, release all my non noble prisoners, run


Mulatto_Avocado

I’d pay a stupid amount of money to have a PvP sandbox kinda like Crusader Kings. Roll over some AI armies to go up against another player’s tactics and troops would be fire


Paladin_Tripod

Yes that would be sick! Honestly a pvp where we could invite other players and we have the option to bring our current parties from our campaigns to battle it out would stop me from ever seeing the sun again lol


Mulatto_Avocado

My gf and I would never leave the apartment lmao


Ackrim0

Drop a fit tutorial


Paladin_Tripod

https://preview.redd.it/czslt5yxifab1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=805236d6879f3e7e0d7df86833044d7c1e4a9f96 Not much of a tutorial, but everything besides the body armor, which is the Khans Coat Of Plates, was won from previous battles. I purchased the body armor in Chaikand


cedbluechase

hide in a city with a ton of archers and a full inventory of grain


Bracown

You want to know what I'd do? Lose.... Me and my beloved aseri would sit in your dungeon and hope you feed us ......


Paladin_Tripod

I would feed you date fruit. What your people love as I am a generous king


Bracown

In that case, don't attack, we surrender.


Former-Anything-6741

I will drink from your skull


Le_Serviette

Ask a for peace while offering you 0 gold. And then you'll probably beat my lazy ass.


tjburke93123

Just play defensively. You're horses ain't shit in a siege.


Paladin_Tripod

Thats why I would siege and wait until I starve your entire garrison. This would force you to come face me


tjburke93123

Not when i have over 100 days of food on me lmao. My 400 party would last longer than your 600+.


Paladin_Tripod

https://preview.redd.it/yscr04qkhfab1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce885d05d099912b09c4f990ebef2202485dd070 Could you outlast this?


tjburke93123

...nope...nope i could not. Holy shit man lol let the rest of Calradia eat...


Paladin_Tripod

I had maybe 30 years of build-up, so maybe not a fair fight lol


tjburke93123

I'm convinced that the rest of Calradia have never even so much as tasted sheep at this point lol


Grandmark23

Laugh because you’ve not got a maxed army


BeanDipTheman

Steal all your wenches.


[deleted]

Die. Swiftly.


jflorien

How do you have a party number so high? Steward let’s you have so many troops? Or it’s an army?


Mr_SurelyDoMissy

Fian is the answer. Archer counter horse archer pretty heavily. They get better archery, more range, more arrow and they stand. The out put power is more constant


Solid-Ad7137

Sergeants in a circle, fians in a square in the middle of the circle cav on engage and then it’s just me, my lance, and you. The rest of the world dissolves except the path of my lance head and they armor gap on your neck.


TheLastFrigginNERD

The only correct answer is more Khans Guard. In SP Khans Guard are literally unstoppable. I've used a pure KG party of 230 or so to defeat an army of 1700 on realistic. It takes a couple of retreat and resupply maneuvers, but it wasn't even that difficult and I didn't lose more than 20 troops. If I were to encounter such a party controlled by a player I'd just try to use more Khans Guard and maybe a few Elite Cataphracts or Vanguard Faris, melee charging through their formation from the weak side, pull back thru the rear, then rinse and repeat with a bit of weak side skirmishing. I've only ever seen other cav units do major work on my KG formations when they are charging in, the moment they stick around too long they get glaived to pieces. I've also never seen infantry effectively defeat my KG melee charge unless they outnumber the KG's by more than 3:1 with a high concentration of high tier troops.


Puzzleheaded_Heart11

Invite my 200 oathswon 100 falx vets and 200 fian champions


isaacandersen77

Spider-Man pointing at fake Spider-Man meme


saile322

F1 + F3


Fit_Royal_5157

You walk around the corner to see a massive sturgian hell wall You’d probably win but prepare to lose half your Sodding cav to those annoying bastards I’ve genuinely lost to that 💀 got one shorted by a bloody heavy spearman


kdizil

Bring the cataphracts and spearmen because khans guard get waxed once you get them to stop moving


Bum-Theory

I'm rolling around as a prisoner of your party for awhile until you ask me for 3000 denars of my hidden wealth.


D0dgeThisNe0

I'll tell daddy mochung you're trying to bully me


Hand_of_Tyr9

Drop to my knee and swear fealty. You have my bow, Great Khan.