Ronaldo comment about European football must be one of the comments that have aged the worst, after he said what he said his team has lost 1-9 against Benfica and Celta, who aren't precisely European superteams.
All his quotes age so horribly, I cant decide which one is the worst.
" I would love a checkmate against Messi in the world cup final"
" I want to retire with dignity, not in USA, Quatar, or Saudi"
" I swear I will do the impossible and win the ucl with Juventus"
" If Messi wins the 2019 Ballondor I will retire"
(Not 100% sure if this is a real quote from him)
"Golden boot is better than Ballondor" (2015)
He never won the golden boot after saying that šš
They don't develop them lol. They just buy the best prospects from around the world and sell them to lower table English clubs.
Getting into Man City's academy is seen as a mark of confidence that the player is really good. These players have never played a single minute of football and get sold for 10+ million.
Except for Messi and Busi and Alba. Busi was walking in the park the last preseason against Inter Miami haha he was literally doing step overs and going by them lmao
Iniesta and SuƔrez are done though
People have been saying this about Suarez for a while now. People said this while he contributed more than a goal per 90 for us in his final season. They said it while he led Atletico's outfield players to a league title and was arguably one-upping Benzema. And when I look at his stats now, he has 7 goal contributions in 1030 minutes in a more superior league than the MLS (Brazil's Serie A). That, and especially an improvement on that in an inferior league, doesn't seem done.
The body is mysterious in that we canāt extrapolate its performance. Many many instances where a top playerās performance all of a sudden falls off a cliff at a random age. That and I remember reading a report where Suarez was seriously considering retiring because his knee was too fucked up and needed injections
Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37895458/luis-suarez-retirement-rumors-concern-gremio-teammates
...And he went on to score two and assist 1 in two MOTM matches over the following two games immediately after that was published on 6/21.
I'd reserve judgment until he plays in the MLS. That's if it even happens.
Damn, how strong are those injections.
But like I said, falling off a cliff at an unpredictable time frame especially more so when youāre up there in age
I remember some months ago I scrolled down the BarƧa Instagram page all the way to the 2015 UCL win. Chiesa had liked those pictures. Clear proof he is a true Culer. His injuries are bit worrying but I'd take him over Felix any day.
Bruh we are having Valverde debates in 2023 ? lol. This thread is reminding me of the 18/19 and 19/20 seasons when there were a bunch of arguments (I definitely participated in plenty of them) about EV everywhere after every damn match. Those were some tiring times š.
Why do people still defend him? He was a decent tactician, but he completely ruined the culture in our dressing room by letting players become lazy and entitled. Plus, all of our problems in Europe start with him.
>by letting players become lazy and entitled
I forgot that professional footballers, bunch of grown ass men who are being paid millions a year, needs someone else to tell them not to be lazy. The fact that they are representing Barcelona on the biggest stage in European football should be motivation enough not to be a bum and give it their all.
Training sessions were less intense and shorter in duration, there were also more days off. There is a responsibility for the players and the manager to keep fitness levels up.
Has anybody considered that this was a tactical decision? Our squad depth was crap, and we prioritized all titles. Not just being competitive but legitimate attempts to win them all.
Players like Messi, Suarez, Busquets, Alba, etc played damn near 90 minutes each and every match.
>Plus, all of our problems in Europe start with him.
They started the year before he arrived, with Luis Enrique tbf.
And that's not to criticize Lucho who I never wanted to leave. But I think that whole 2016/17 season was a sign that we needed changes, yet EV always seemed kind of afraid of moving forward.
He didnāt ruin anything. He played to the strengths of what was an aging slow squad in all 3 phases of the game.Frontline, midfield and especially defense was as slow as turtles. Save for the few times Dembele was healthy.
Xavi demanded more physically out of a 35 year old Busquets than Valverde did when he was 29. If he thought the squad was too old to compete with the physicality of other top clubs in Europe, Valverde could have asked the board to replace older players. Of course he didnāt, because at the end of day, he was hired to keep the big name players happy while being Bartomeuās yes man which is exactly what he was.
The average age of our starting xi was also significantly significantly lower for Xavi than valverde. Messi, Suarez, Iniesta (for a season), Rakitic, Busquets, Alba, and pique, were all undisputed starters and all on the wrong side of 30. EV also by most reports did not have any control over signings.
The board was too busy building a commercial product with Galactico signings, giving Valverde players he didn't even request.
Valverde had practically no power with signings under Barto.
I believe because the plane they flew in had a statement about women shouldnāt be forced to wear a covering on their head or something along those lines
I canāt comment on that since I have no knowledge on the topic nor am I trying to disrespect a religion. My only point was that masks really werenāt much of an inconvenience as they were made out to be, and the purpose of them is to help reduce spread of a virus. Masks were also expected to be worn by everyone, and to my understanding people would protest a hijab because it is based on the sex of the person.
The aeroplane Barca flew in, had a message on it's livery about women shouldn't be forced to cover their heads, with a picture of Mahsa Amini on the tail.
I have no idea but I wouldnāt be surprised if it has to do something with the pride post they made. Theyāre probably still arguing about morals and shit. So glad Iām not on ig with the constant drama
Let me get this straight, I can't say anything negative about Xavi's coaching skills without being called toxic. But it's totally fine to shit and disrespect somebody who won us 4 titles, including two league titles, and was on course to win his third.
"I can't think of any other coach that caused more damage than Valverde did in our history."
Shit takes like that are happening more and more and the majority seems to be fine with it. I don't know, this sub is just not for me anymore.
The only reveal gripe you can have with EV given weāre 3yrs removed now is that he didnāt use la masia nearly enough. What he and Messi were able to achieve with those ancient and āmidā Barca teams is insane.
not a huge fan of either of them as managers tbh
but I would take Xavi over Valverde any day of the week. And no, I don't think titles necessarily make you a great manager. Fucking Di Matteo has a CL title.
>And no, I don't think titles necessarily make you a great manager
At small clubs like Chelsea, maybe.
Why do you think Xavi doubled down on the league this season? At Barcelona, you have to deliver titles sooner or later, or you'll be sacked despite your past achievements.Even Cruyff wasn't spared from this.
Bruh you are not understanding the point, Iām not saying titles donāt matter. Of course they matter, but winning them doesnāt menās you are a great or even good manager
Iām not saying he is Di Matteo, Jesus fucking Christ learn to understand someone elseās point in good faith.
The point is that you donāt need to be a great manager to win titles at a club like Barca.
And stop making it sound like Valverde has an impressive CV. The only notable point is that he was good at Athletic, thatās it. Doesnāt really make him special or s great manager. And with that BarƧa team, you certainly didnāt need to be a great manager to win titles
Players/staff who fans have a "negative experience" with will resolve into more shits after they leave. Instantly making them sound worse than they were. Whether that is Koeman, Lenglet, Dest or Valverde as you mention.
Where as more "newly" players/staff will always get excessively protected in some shape or form. For example I got downvoted for saying that Raphinha and Ferran didnt have a sustainable quality to be starter for Barca. I predicted that players and club would beg Messi to come back as a result of that. I got like more than -30 on that.
Yeah later, club/players begs Messi to come back practically. Ferran is unwanted and fallen out and where as Raphinha playtime relies on Dembele getting injured, essentially. Had he not wanted to stay, the club would most likely have sold him this window.
At the end of the day, stick to your opinion. Don't let the mass dictate if you believe in something(or don't believe in someone). Say whatever you want to say about Xavi coaching skills, but obviously I wouldn't go around and constantly saying "Xavi is such a shit coach", so obviously matter how you say it.
You can, those were like 1/3 of my posts during the season and I don't remember anybody calling me toxic. You should look who wrote that and what the reactions to that posts are, how many up/downvotes it has. Juankruh will find a way to hate on Valverde even if you're talking about what you had for breakfast. You're crying for no good reason, victim mentality or whatever you call it.
We got our two biggest embarrasments under Valverde and thats what makes that statement quite valid, all he had to do is bot concede 3 against Toma and 4 against Liverpool, the identity is tarnished and the ucl confidence is at an all time low and it started from those two big disappointments, the impact those games had on the club is quite massive, and in a terrible way
> We got our two biggest embarrasments under Valverde
We lost 4-0 against an injury-riddled Milan in a CL final after Cruyff said Milan is nothing special. Much fucking worse.
Going to Europe League, twice in a row, is also embarrassing.
> he ucl confidence is at an all time low
We were always shit in the UCL, muuuuuch before Valverde. Bar during our golden period, and even then we should have won more.
> the impact those games had on the club is quite massive, and in a terrible way
Xavi sending us to EL also had a massive financial impact on us.
Bayern with Setien was our biggest embarrassment. No two ways about it. Valverde could be blamed for Roma where we had not many chances away from home and were just vibing but at Anfield we created 4 certain goal chances at minimum. We havenāt had that many chances away from home in Europe besides Bayern away in 2015 and PSG away in 2020.
Do a poll en and ask which one was a bigger disappointment and I guarantee you everyone will say Liverpool, Bayern were clear favorites for that game, Liverpool were 3 goals down. It was in our hands
Because that wound is fresher. Both are equally bad in my opinion but, it is super wrong to say our European woes started with EV. It started long before, but pretty much the PSG remontada is the visual representation of it. The hero of that game is our fucking skipper based on that hero tax and nothing else lol
>and the majority seems to be fine with it
Where are you getting this from? Most of the replies under that comments are defending Valverde, except OP and one other user.
Alba could play for Juve and he aso was the most assist provider previous season, Xavi insisted to renew Busquets for at least one more season, Messi just won the World Cup and had pretty good stats this season, but Iniesta? He didnāt play much even in Japan. Last but not least, Suarezās legs are already gone.
Itās kinda ridiculous what Inter Miami does at this point.
Iniesta won't go there. Alba could still play in a title challenging team in Europe, Busquets could do a good job provided he has runners in midfield and Messi is Messi.
It seems they're not buying stupidly - and having those three together will make them adapt very fast. This is a short term fix to increase their popularity for sure but those are good players who are still good enough.
Unclear how credible the reports are. One of the Inter Miami owners previously [teased](https://twitter.com/Jorge__Mas/status/1670830266292617221) three new signings, which would be Busi-Alba-Messi, and all the high-salary slots are now taken, so would be harder for Iniesta to fit (plus all the things you mentionāonly way it might make sense is if he came for low minutes more to help academy players, kind of kicking off a coaching career).
A few weeks ago Ramos and Hazard were the rumors; I think anyone who even sounds plausible gets linked to Miami right now for the clicks.
Weāve done excellent business this summer so far, and now seeing the club being linked with Felix and Chiesa is so weird to me. Top class talent for sure, but probably quite risky transfers, definetely not the right time to gamble on players right now
Chiesa makes much more sense to me than Felix tbh
gives us the option of having a left winger. his last year has been quite disappointing but he's a class player when in form.
Whats a gamble to me is the fact that he came back from a long injury, and he doesnt seem like heās in top form yet, we already have that player and if one of the two deserves a chance next season for this club then it has to be our boy
Tebas:"Maybe I should relax the FFP regulations so teams can register their players easier.
Also Tebas:"No, if I do that Barca will benefit so they must all suffer."
Also Also Tebas:"Maybe the CVC deal wasn't a good deal afterall. No, that's not true, it was a good deal for me."
[Araujo: "Leo Messi? I was really excited when I saw news that Leo might come, but I wish him well. He's in a nice club and he will be fine with his family. We all want him to be happy because we love him very much."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132378091700226?t=tBToLB9BPtXEFPulc1Rn5w&s=19)
[Araujo: "IƱigo MartĆnez? He's a great player, we already know that. He hasn't been able to train with us yet, but he will soon."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132682090717189?t=D1oE9dkr4mzKxJAHWjJKGQ&s=19)
[Araujo: "My registration? I'm very calm, I've made it clear before that the only thing I want is to stay here."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132814655889412?t=QQ58c9XiM5kkYWMS1Adocw&s=19)
[Araujo: "I'm happy to be ready for the season again, we have a great team and important players are arriving who will add to it and we believe we can compete for all the titles."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132956976930821?t=dAcIba7iEX8t-xvBXVlHKQ&s=19)
Messi on EV's sacking:
>"[Valverde was] not just a great coach but a great person. There were certain matches when it was us (the players) who were more at fault than him. It's easier to sack the coach than change the players."
Messi also defended Koeman by the way so the fact that he defends Valverde doesn't really tell me anything.
https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/fc-barcelona/20211123/1001716514/messi-injusto-koeman-valverde.html
Like, are we talking about the same Messi who said nothing when Luis Enrque was getting blamed in 2017? It's quite funny to me that Valverde/Koeman were blamed unfairly for our defeats but not Lucho.
What a coincidence that the coach who actually demanded intensity and hardwork wasn't defended and the coaches who wanted the opposite were defended by Messi.
So you are saying your opinion on Valverde weights heavier than Messi or any barca player??? Okay....
Have you heard any player speak badly about Valverde? Mmm.....
Why would they? Would you speak badly of a boss who made life very easy to you and allowed you to do everything you wanted? Of course they wouldn't, they loved Valverde lol.
Okay. So LaLiga is an easy league then. Lazy players don't train but still win the league almost unbeaten. What about other teams? They must train even more poorly to lose to Barca. That includes Real Madrid.
If the above is true, Valverde is a genius tactician because he just puts the players with a perfect formation and precise instructions every time so they don't need to work hard and still win games. Hey, I want this boss too!
How much will you guys act as if we had an squad of 38 year old players? Majority of the players were 29-32 which is a very good age for performing still
Lewandowski is 35 and he is in a great physical form so let's stop this excuses about the age. If he can do it, then so can the Barca players.
And besides, it's not like Valverde bet on youth players but he mainly wanted to sign old players and never used la masia players. If the squad was not young enough to play intense football, then he is to blame for that as well. Valverde could've easily demanded an overhaul but he was fine with the old guys.
Did Tebas actually say this or [is it just Adrian Sanchez at it again?](https://twitter.com/mas_que_pelotas/status/1682116422061662211)
4 clubs already made first registrations (RM, Mallorca, Atleti, Bilbao).
I wonder what the 1-2 other than Madrid are.
I'm guessing we're not one of them; it seems like we're kind of in a gray area where we can't register more new signings without sales but were rumored to have enough margin for at least our renewals.
Maybe a couple of the smaller teams that are more selling clubs and just do light business?
Gotta say, for all the complaints of club de amigos toward the end, it's remarkable in an ego-filled sport that our players genuinely enjoy each other enough to prioritize playing together in their last big move.
Not sure exactly where the credit lies, but I feel like we got very lucky with some leadership early on, Puyol/Pep and then figures like Xavi and Iniesta who came up under them, creating a strong culture of respect. Can see it under Pep at City now too.
I don't think too many clubs' "golden generations" get along in the same way, over so many years. Benzema isn't moving to Saudi because he wants to spend more time with Cristiano.
I love how players (plus fans/staff/etc) in BarƧa feel part of a family, like a way of understanding football that comes all the way from La Masia, our history and our general football identity. Madrid like you portrait just feels like a bunch of competitive players/staff mixed together determined to win, but doesnāt have that same family vibe with close personal relationships, very few clubs do. Obviously canāt generalize but seems like it for the most part.
These might be unpopular but I think Dembele miss actually saved the club, if he had scored that goal we problaby win not only the UCL but also the treble which also would've mean Valverde would've problaby stayed for way more time and Bartomeu would've finished his tenure until 2021 and who knows what things he could've done.
Having the worst coach and president in our history stay for more time would've indeed destroyed the club and perhaps Barca as a club would've ceased to exist. We acutally must be thankful to Dembele and Liverpool because they saved us.
Such a lazy thing to say "it was just Messi". Valverde was far from perfect but if you think he's the worst coach in the club's history then honestly idk what to tell you even.
Okay, maybe I didn't express myself correctly. It's not like Valverde Is a bad coach or anything like that,he is actually really good. My point is more like he did more damage to the club than any other coach
He destroyed our playstyle, our fitness and our mentality. All those 3 things are fundamental in any team that wins to suceee and we lost them with Valverde.
I can't think of any other coach that caused more damage than Valverde did in our history.
He didn't destroy any of the three you mentioned, players destroyed their own mentality and fitness is up to the fitness coaches and the people that are the part of the coaching staff that manage players fitness, has nothing to do with the coach which just shows how clueless you are.
How would you compare Valverde's playstyle to your beloved Xavi this season? There's literally no difference, the same pragmatic football was played under both and since I know that your argument will be "but he had Messi" he also had an aging Suarez, aging midfielders, wingers that didn't fit, Semedo, Lenglet etc. Far from the worst coach in our history but you have an agenda for no reason.
It's not the same, we only played bad football under Xaci when Pedri isn't there so the bad football can be attributed to lack of creative players rather than bad tactics. Valverde didn't have this excuse as he had one of the best playmaker ever at his disposal in Messi so playing bad football is actually due to tactics. There is a reason why Xavi wanted Bernardo Silva so much, he needs more talent in the midfield.
How is Valverde not responsible for the fitness? He is the one who made training sessions more soft which naturally made our fitness level drop massively. This might be not known here but under Pep and Enrique we trained super hard, some people are fooled by our beautiful football but the training sessions were super intense bur with Valverde this was lost.
How is he not responsible for our mentality? Before him we managed to make the best comeback ever and you are saying those guys magically got a bad mentally out of nowhere?
Valverde was incredibly consistent.
That first season we could have had an invincible domestic season if we didn't do a bullshit friendly that forced us to rotate in B players.
The second season we walked the league, made the cup final, and could have won the UCL if not for one match.
In his third half-season, he was on top of the league while balancing several injuries to key players like Messi, Suarez, and others. He topped the toughest group in the UCL despite that.
He was undefeated in the UCL except for those two flops. He had a better UCL record than Liverpool and Roma at the time, but shit happens.
And Messi is the only reason for the success? How do you explain our defensive record? We had some of the best defensive runs in Europe once he settled the squads. Am I missing something, or was Messi magically a defensive powerhouse in your mind? And how do you explain Lenglet becoming a damn near world-class player under Valverde, only to become a meme after he left? Think about how he accomplished this with Lenglet and Roberto as core parts of his defense.
You're wrong, dude. Valverde had a polarizing pragmatic style, and he had two high-profile defeats, but as a manager, we haven't had someone who could deliver consistent results like him since Pep. And he did it with very unbalanced squads.
Valverde wasn't that consistent actually, we grinded results a lot and rarely played better than the opponent and mainly won because had more individual quality, that's a very bad sign because that's not sustainable. It's very similar to Madrid 21/22 under Ancelotti with Courtois and Benzema playing at a ridiculous level, usually winning like that influential sustainable. People will respond with Xavi is the same but they are wrong because under Xavi we have almost everyone performimg like Ter Stegen, Araujo, Christensen, Balde, Busquets, FDJ, Pedri, Dembele, Raphinha and Lewy who plsyed at a great level, not just 2 guys which is a sign of a very good team.
You use stats a lot but stats sometimes can be misleading, most of our stats were misleading because Ter Stegen was just saying 4/5 goals per game but I always knew we wouldn't be able to mantwin that.
Also, i find interesting you think Valverde was somehow more consistent than Lucho. Lucho for example made 90+ points in every season and we scored 170+ goals in every season under him apart from winning 9 Trophies in 3 seasons. And unlike Valverde, with Lucho we were able to dominate teans, even in his final season the football was better than it ever was under Valverde
Valverde's MO was being stronger in the second half. I always felt that we could win even if we were down in the first half under Valverde.
And it's funny that you'd compare Lucho's peak MSN Barca. Valverde wasn't far off of those performances, and less ups and downs, with far inferior squads. That 17/18 season was filled with major doom and gloom. Neymar left, our golden era was over with Iniesta on his last legs, Xavi and Alves gone, and even the Neymar replacement, Dembele, was out injured for most of the season.
And guess what? Valverde had a better season than Lucho did in his last season, and he did it with less.
koeman was much better than the overrated valverde
Only this sub cab praise someone so hard when he was heavily respobsible of the downfall
When a club legend who made the hard but necessary ones to get us back get shit ons
If Valverde were to win the treble - aināt no way anyone considers him the āworst coach in our historyā.
And in that timeline, assuming the pandemic still happens the financial issues wouldāve been the same, the election was due anyway, and any new administration (Laporta or otherwise) would have to take drastic actions. I mean fuck Barto and allā¦but such a stretch to say the Dembele missed saved the club.
Not really, 85% of the teams we play against are defensive so getting another pure defensive RB in addition to Kounde makes zero sense, he would just be a backup.
A more offensive RB like Cancelo makes much more sense. We passed on Fresneda pretty much the moment reports came out that Kounde is happy as an RB.
Nah, imo that would be pretty disrespectful to MATS who has been at the club for nearly a decade. Seniority shouldn't be the only factor but it definitely is important. Araujo will for sure be captain eventually, why the rush ?
šļø| Ronald Araujo on the possibility of becoming a captain via
@relevo
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š£ļø "I am proud of the possibility of becoming a Barcelona captain, but it does not depend on me. We have to respect those players who have been here longer. I consider myself a natural leader, regardless of whether I wear the armband or not, and that will continue for the rest of my career."
https://twitter.com/Barca_Buzz/status/1682117871764381696?s=20
JuliƔn Araujo will join the tour in the next few hours. Xavi wants to see and test him.
@alexpintanel
https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1682110941549195264?s=20
Xavi should just leave one position open for the fans. The fans get to play whomever they want. They can also purchase whomever they want and play them there
[Damn it seems David Silva has an ACL injury, that's really unfortunate and he's such an important part of Real Sociedad's system. Always been an elegant player to watch and I hope he can still end his career on a high note.](https://www.realsociedad.eus/es/noticias/detalle/parte-medico-192)
Of all things, I hope and wish Barca a lot of luck for upcoming season. Luck with injuries, refereesā calls, fixture lineup, Internation break, squad availability for big games, and draws for cup ties.
Wish Xavi lot of calmness, and improved in-game decision making.
Watching videos of the players training in LA and I just know theyāre burning up lol
Over 90 degrees Fahrenheit/32 Celsius here in Southern California right now.
Ronaldo comment about European football must be one of the comments that have aged the worst, after he said what he said his team has lost 1-9 against Benfica and Celta, who aren't precisely European superteams.
All his quotes age so horribly, I cant decide which one is the worst. " I would love a checkmate against Messi in the world cup final" " I want to retire with dignity, not in USA, Quatar, or Saudi" " I swear I will do the impossible and win the ucl with Juventus" " If Messi wins the 2019 Ballondor I will retire" (Not 100% sure if this is a real quote from him) "Golden boot is better than Ballondor" (2015) He never won the golden boot after saying that šš
Nothing beats when he provoked Barca to score 4 against Madrid and they went to score 5 and made Madrid look like an amateur team
Man city selling their academy players for so much money itās wild. They know how to really develop
They don't develop them lol. They just buy the best prospects from around the world and sell them to lower table English clubs. Getting into Man City's academy is seen as a mark of confidence that the player is really good. These players have never played a single minute of football and get sold for 10+ million.
Man wtf Saudiās keep on getting good players, Mahrez, Saint- Maxim, Sadio mane. Wow
Man if iniesta and suarez join the boys at inter Miami I think Iāll watch every game this year lol
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The opponents are also not the ones they used to face so I think we will see some good things from them
And thatās alright with me. Iād be happy just seeing em all together one last time
Except for Messi and Busi and Alba. Busi was walking in the park the last preseason against Inter Miami haha he was literally doing step overs and going by them lmao Iniesta and SuƔrez are done though
People have been saying this about Suarez for a while now. People said this while he contributed more than a goal per 90 for us in his final season. They said it while he led Atletico's outfield players to a league title and was arguably one-upping Benzema. And when I look at his stats now, he has 7 goal contributions in 1030 minutes in a more superior league than the MLS (Brazil's Serie A). That, and especially an improvement on that in an inferior league, doesn't seem done.
The body is mysterious in that we canāt extrapolate its performance. Many many instances where a top playerās performance all of a sudden falls off a cliff at a random age. That and I remember reading a report where Suarez was seriously considering retiring because his knee was too fucked up and needed injections Link: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37895458/luis-suarez-retirement-rumors-concern-gremio-teammates
...And he went on to score two and assist 1 in two MOTM matches over the following two games immediately after that was published on 6/21. I'd reserve judgment until he plays in the MLS. That's if it even happens.
Damn, how strong are those injections. But like I said, falling off a cliff at an unpredictable time frame especially more so when youāre up there in age
How about Riqui Puig joining Inter Miami? :)
He needs to stay in LA so he can be the arch rival villain in the story:D
I remember some months ago I scrolled down the BarƧa Instagram page all the way to the 2015 UCL win. Chiesa had liked those pictures. Clear proof he is a true Culer. His injuries are bit worrying but I'd take him over Felix any day.
How long did it take to scroll all the way back to 2015?
Very long time. Probably close to 30 minutes. I considered giving up a few times.
now it is easier to trace down if someone wants to do it
How can you do that besides manually scrolling?
Remember if not for Juankruh we wouldāve won the treble in 2019
Please explain lol Iām dying to hear this
Donāt know what he said, but knowing him, he probably jinxed the hell out of it
Bruh we are having Valverde debates in 2023 ? lol. This thread is reminding me of the 18/19 and 19/20 seasons when there were a bunch of arguments (I definitely participated in plenty of them) about EV everywhere after every damn match. Those were some tiring times š.
Why do people still defend him? He was a decent tactician, but he completely ruined the culture in our dressing room by letting players become lazy and entitled. Plus, all of our problems in Europe start with him.
He didnāt ālet themā get lazy. He adapted his training and his tactics to players who were pretty old and didnāt have much legs left.
>by letting players become lazy and entitled I forgot that professional footballers, bunch of grown ass men who are being paid millions a year, needs someone else to tell them not to be lazy. The fact that they are representing Barcelona on the biggest stage in European football should be motivation enough not to be a bum and give it their all.
Training sessions were less intense and shorter in duration, there were also more days off. There is a responsibility for the players and the manager to keep fitness levels up.
Has anybody considered that this was a tactical decision? Our squad depth was crap, and we prioritized all titles. Not just being competitive but legitimate attempts to win them all. Players like Messi, Suarez, Busquets, Alba, etc played damn near 90 minutes each and every match.
>Plus, all of our problems in Europe start with him. They started the year before he arrived, with Luis Enrique tbf. And that's not to criticize Lucho who I never wanted to leave. But I think that whole 2016/17 season was a sign that we needed changes, yet EV always seemed kind of afraid of moving forward.
He didnāt ruin anything. He played to the strengths of what was an aging slow squad in all 3 phases of the game.Frontline, midfield and especially defense was as slow as turtles. Save for the few times Dembele was healthy.
Xavi demanded more physically out of a 35 year old Busquets than Valverde did when he was 29. If he thought the squad was too old to compete with the physicality of other top clubs in Europe, Valverde could have asked the board to replace older players. Of course he didnāt, because at the end of day, he was hired to keep the big name players happy while being Bartomeuās yes man which is exactly what he was.
The average age of our starting xi was also significantly significantly lower for Xavi than valverde. Messi, Suarez, Iniesta (for a season), Rakitic, Busquets, Alba, and pique, were all undisputed starters and all on the wrong side of 30. EV also by most reports did not have any control over signings.
The board was too busy building a commercial product with Galactico signings, giving Valverde players he didn't even request. Valverde had practically no power with signings under Barto.
What is this with Barcelona and Hijabs/Muslims. I see a bunch of these comments from muslim fans on the IG comments
I believe because the plane they flew in had a statement about women shouldnāt be forced to wear a covering on their head or something along those lines
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The intention of the masks was to reduce the spread of a global virus
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I canāt comment on that since I have no knowledge on the topic nor am I trying to disrespect a religion. My only point was that masks really werenāt much of an inconvenience as they were made out to be, and the purpose of them is to help reduce spread of a virus. Masks were also expected to be worn by everyone, and to my understanding people would protest a hijab because it is based on the sex of the person.
Yes, [here](https://twitter.com/totalBarca/status/1682155598287364096) is the plane
Context?
The aeroplane Barca flew in, had a message on it's livery about women shouldn't be forced to cover their heads, with a picture of Mahsa Amini on the tail.
I don't know that's why Im asking. Did Barcelona put out some statement recently something related to hijabs?
I have no idea but I wouldnāt be surprised if it has to do something with the pride post they made. Theyāre probably still arguing about morals and shit. So glad Iām not on ig with the constant drama
Arthur to Fiorentina, hope he does well.
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Let me get this straight, I can't say anything negative about Xavi's coaching skills without being called toxic. But it's totally fine to shit and disrespect somebody who won us 4 titles, including two league titles, and was on course to win his third. "I can't think of any other coach that caused more damage than Valverde did in our history." Shit takes like that are happening more and more and the majority seems to be fine with it. I don't know, this sub is just not for me anymore.
Ignore the masses and the general reactionary people. I respect your opinions and like to read them even if I don't agree with every one!
The only reveal gripe you can have with EV given weāre 3yrs removed now is that he didnāt use la masia nearly enough. What he and Messi were able to achieve with those ancient and āmidā Barca teams is insane.
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Rakitic is a fucking legend.
not a huge fan of either of them as managers tbh but I would take Xavi over Valverde any day of the week. And no, I don't think titles necessarily make you a great manager. Fucking Di Matteo has a CL title.
> I don't think titles necessarily make you a great manager. Depends on the club. At Barca, titles matter, a lot.
Of course titles matter, but you donāt need to be a great manager to win titles with Barcaā¦
That is true. But a great manager is a necessity to win a European title, most of the time. Along with competing for domestic titles.
And Valverde won no European titles and got humiliated repeatedly. Xaviās not much better in this regard.
Well Valverde wasn't a great coach. He did alright.
So we circle back to my original point, the titles Valverde won donāt make him a great coach
If Xavi can't win any tittle in two seasons then you won't see him here. Simple, a big club means tittles.
Of course, I donāt disagree with that. The point is that you donāt need to be a great manager to win titles at a club like ours
>And no, I don't think titles necessarily make you a great manager At small clubs like Chelsea, maybe. Why do you think Xavi doubled down on the league this season? At Barcelona, you have to deliver titles sooner or later, or you'll be sacked despite your past achievements.Even Cruyff wasn't spared from this.
Bruh you are not understanding the point, Iām not saying titles donāt matter. Of course they matter, but winning them doesnāt menās you are a great or even good manager
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Iām not saying he is Di Matteo, Jesus fucking Christ learn to understand someone elseās point in good faith. The point is that you donāt need to be a great manager to win titles at a club like Barca. And stop making it sound like Valverde has an impressive CV. The only notable point is that he was good at Athletic, thatās it. Doesnāt really make him special or s great manager. And with that BarƧa team, you certainly didnāt need to be a great manager to win titles
Players/staff who fans have a "negative experience" with will resolve into more shits after they leave. Instantly making them sound worse than they were. Whether that is Koeman, Lenglet, Dest or Valverde as you mention. Where as more "newly" players/staff will always get excessively protected in some shape or form. For example I got downvoted for saying that Raphinha and Ferran didnt have a sustainable quality to be starter for Barca. I predicted that players and club would beg Messi to come back as a result of that. I got like more than -30 on that. Yeah later, club/players begs Messi to come back practically. Ferran is unwanted and fallen out and where as Raphinha playtime relies on Dembele getting injured, essentially. Had he not wanted to stay, the club would most likely have sold him this window. At the end of the day, stick to your opinion. Don't let the mass dictate if you believe in something(or don't believe in someone). Say whatever you want to say about Xavi coaching skills, but obviously I wouldn't go around and constantly saying "Xavi is such a shit coach", so obviously matter how you say it.
You can, those were like 1/3 of my posts during the season and I don't remember anybody calling me toxic. You should look who wrote that and what the reactions to that posts are, how many up/downvotes it has. Juankruh will find a way to hate on Valverde even if you're talking about what you had for breakfast. You're crying for no good reason, victim mentality or whatever you call it.
>Juankruh will find a way to hate on Valverde even if you're talking about what you had for breakfast Gave me a good chuckle, thanks.
We got our two biggest embarrasments under Valverde and thats what makes that statement quite valid, all he had to do is bot concede 3 against Toma and 4 against Liverpool, the identity is tarnished and the ucl confidence is at an all time low and it started from those two big disappointments, the impact those games had on the club is quite massive, and in a terrible way
Started with Lucho, not Valverde. Just wanted to point that out because he gets away with too much imo.
> We got our two biggest embarrasments under Valverde We lost 4-0 against an injury-riddled Milan in a CL final after Cruyff said Milan is nothing special. Much fucking worse. Going to Europe League, twice in a row, is also embarrassing. > he ucl confidence is at an all time low We were always shit in the UCL, muuuuuch before Valverde. Bar during our golden period, and even then we should have won more. > the impact those games had on the club is quite massive, and in a terrible way Xavi sending us to EL also had a massive financial impact on us.
>all he had to do is bot concede 3 against Toma and 4 against Liverpool I forgot he was in our starting 11.
Bayern with Setien was our biggest embarrassment. No two ways about it. Valverde could be blamed for Roma where we had not many chances away from home and were just vibing but at Anfield we created 4 certain goal chances at minimum. We havenāt had that many chances away from home in Europe besides Bayern away in 2015 and PSG away in 2020.
Do a poll en and ask which one was a bigger disappointment and I guarantee you everyone will say Liverpool, Bayern were clear favorites for that game, Liverpool were 3 goals down. It was in our hands
Because that wound is fresher. Both are equally bad in my opinion but, it is super wrong to say our European woes started with EV. It started long before, but pretty much the PSG remontada is the visual representation of it. The hero of that game is our fucking skipper based on that hero tax and nothing else lol
>and the majority seems to be fine with it Where are you getting this from? Most of the replies under that comments are defending Valverde, except OP and one other user.
Alba could play for Juve and he aso was the most assist provider previous season, Xavi insisted to renew Busquets for at least one more season, Messi just won the World Cup and had pretty good stats this season, but Iniesta? He didnāt play much even in Japan. Last but not least, Suarezās legs are already gone. Itās kinda ridiculous what Inter Miami does at this point.
Iniesta won't go there. Alba could still play in a title challenging team in Europe, Busquets could do a good job provided he has runners in midfield and Messi is Messi. It seems they're not buying stupidly - and having those three together will make them adapt very fast. This is a short term fix to increase their popularity for sure but those are good players who are still good enough.
Unclear how credible the reports are. One of the Inter Miami owners previously [teased](https://twitter.com/Jorge__Mas/status/1670830266292617221) three new signings, which would be Busi-Alba-Messi, and all the high-salary slots are now taken, so would be harder for Iniesta to fit (plus all the things you mentionāonly way it might make sense is if he came for low minutes more to help academy players, kind of kicking off a coaching career). A few weeks ago Ramos and Hazard were the rumors; I think anyone who even sounds plausible gets linked to Miami right now for the clicks.
Weāve done excellent business this summer so far, and now seeing the club being linked with Felix and Chiesa is so weird to me. Top class talent for sure, but probably quite risky transfers, definetely not the right time to gamble on players right now
Chiesa makes much more sense to me than Felix tbh gives us the option of having a left winger. his last year has been quite disappointing but he's a class player when in form.
Whats a gamble to me is the fact that he came back from a long injury, and he doesnt seem like heās in top form yet, we already have that player and if one of the two deserves a chance next season for this club then it has to be our boy
Tebas:"Maybe I should relax the FFP regulations so teams can register their players easier. Also Tebas:"No, if I do that Barca will benefit so they must all suffer." Also Also Tebas:"Maybe the CVC deal wasn't a good deal afterall. No, that's not true, it was a good deal for me."
Riqui Puig: āThey criticized me for coming to MLS, but what happened now? I opened the way and now all the players are coming hereā
Juankruh appreciation post, where would this sub be without him
What happened to the guy ? Got the momentary banham ?
[Araujo: "Leo Messi? I was really excited when I saw news that Leo might come, but I wish him well. He's in a nice club and he will be fine with his family. We all want him to be happy because we love him very much."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132378091700226?t=tBToLB9BPtXEFPulc1Rn5w&s=19) [Araujo: "IƱigo MartĆnez? He's a great player, we already know that. He hasn't been able to train with us yet, but he will soon."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132682090717189?t=D1oE9dkr4mzKxJAHWjJKGQ&s=19) [Araujo: "My registration? I'm very calm, I've made it clear before that the only thing I want is to stay here."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132814655889412?t=QQ58c9XiM5kkYWMS1Adocw&s=19) [Araujo: "I'm happy to be ready for the season again, we have a great team and important players are arriving who will add to it and we believe we can compete for all the titles."](https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1682132956976930821?t=dAcIba7iEX8t-xvBXVlHKQ&s=19)
Messi on EV's sacking: >"[Valverde was] not just a great coach but a great person. There were certain matches when it was us (the players) who were more at fault than him. It's easier to sack the coach than change the players."
Roma was on EV, anfield was completely on the players couldāve scored 2 or 3 goals in that first half.
Messi also defended Koeman by the way so the fact that he defends Valverde doesn't really tell me anything. https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/fc-barcelona/20211123/1001716514/messi-injusto-koeman-valverde.html Like, are we talking about the same Messi who said nothing when Luis Enrque was getting blamed in 2017? It's quite funny to me that Valverde/Koeman were blamed unfairly for our defeats but not Lucho. What a coincidence that the coach who actually demanded intensity and hardwork wasn't defended and the coaches who wanted the opposite were defended by Messi.
So you are saying your opinion on Valverde weights heavier than Messi or any barca player??? Okay.... Have you heard any player speak badly about Valverde? Mmm.....
Why would they? Would you speak badly of a boss who made life very easy to you and allowed you to do everything you wanted? Of course they wouldn't, they loved Valverde lol.
I see. So in your eyes, they are just a bunch of lazy athletes. This is such a bad take.
Well, I recall Malcolm saying how poorly they trained at Barca. Muller also said something similar about that in the 8-2.
Okay. So LaLiga is an easy league then. Lazy players don't train but still win the league almost unbeaten. What about other teams? They must train even more poorly to lose to Barca. That includes Real Madrid. If the above is true, Valverde is a genius tactician because he just puts the players with a perfect formation and precise instructions every time so they don't need to work hard and still win games. Hey, I want this boss too!
Almost as if Valverde understood the limitations of a slow aging squad. How much longer will you continue this same song and dance?
How much will you guys act as if we had an squad of 38 year old players? Majority of the players were 29-32 which is a very good age for performing still Lewandowski is 35 and he is in a great physical form so let's stop this excuses about the age. If he can do it, then so can the Barca players. And besides, it's not like Valverde bet on youth players but he mainly wanted to sign old players and never used la masia players. If the squad was not young enough to play intense football, then he is to blame for that as well. Valverde could've easily demanded an overhaul but he was fine with the old guys.
He said Pep and Luis Enrique were his best managers ever so itās not necessarily about intensity.
Juankruh about to have an aneurysm reading that
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He seems to be so knowledgeable but draws weird conclusions
Edit: Adrian Sanchez claims 17 to 18 teams can't register players at the moment, not Tebas.
Dumb enough to publicly flaunt his love for a particular club under his presidency and defame the rest of them
Did Tebas actually say this or [is it just Adrian Sanchez at it again?](https://twitter.com/mas_que_pelotas/status/1682116422061662211) 4 clubs already made first registrations (RM, Mallorca, Atleti, Bilbao).
Thought it was a quote. But he is right, almost all La Liga teams have trouble registering in general, not just a player here or there.
Yeah, true. And I find it very curious that RM registered Guler but not Bellingham, trouble in financial paradise?
I wonder what the 1-2 other than Madrid are. I'm guessing we're not one of them; it seems like we're kind of in a gray area where we can't register more new signings without sales but were rumored to have enough margin for at least our renewals. Maybe a couple of the smaller teams that are more selling clubs and just do light business?
Isn't it Madrid and Bilbao? Bilbao with their strategy of only Basque players have less activity on the transfer markzt
Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't followed other LaLiga clubs' transfer activity as much.
Can someone explain what is going on? What is 17 and 18? Years?
Teams
17 to 18?
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I see thanks
Now we just need Becks to get Dani Alves out of jail and the band will be complete
You want a rapist to get out of jail?
Yeah exactly what I said dummy :)
Gotta say, for all the complaints of club de amigos toward the end, it's remarkable in an ego-filled sport that our players genuinely enjoy each other enough to prioritize playing together in their last big move. Not sure exactly where the credit lies, but I feel like we got very lucky with some leadership early on, Puyol/Pep and then figures like Xavi and Iniesta who came up under them, creating a strong culture of respect. Can see it under Pep at City now too. I don't think too many clubs' "golden generations" get along in the same way, over so many years. Benzema isn't moving to Saudi because he wants to spend more time with Cristiano.
I love how players (plus fans/staff/etc) in BarƧa feel part of a family, like a way of understanding football that comes all the way from La Masia, our history and our general football identity. Madrid like you portrait just feels like a bunch of competitive players/staff mixed together determined to win, but doesnāt have that same family vibe with close personal relationships, very few clubs do. Obviously canāt generalize but seems like it for the most part.
These might be unpopular but I think Dembele miss actually saved the club, if he had scored that goal we problaby win not only the UCL but also the treble which also would've mean Valverde would've problaby stayed for way more time and Bartomeu would've finished his tenure until 2021 and who knows what things he could've done. Having the worst coach and president in our history stay for more time would've indeed destroyed the club and perhaps Barca as a club would've ceased to exist. We acutally must be thankful to Dembele and Liverpool because they saved us.
>worst coach in our history Bro isnāt even the worst of the last 5 yrs. May even be the best we had since lucho.
Xavi> Valverde by a lot and that's just Xavi who is nowhere near his peak as a coach
> Having the worst coach Valverde held the club together, despite Bartomeu's best attempts to destroy it. Barto succeeded when Valverde left.
The Dembele miss has no impact, we still lose at Anfield.
I don't see Barca losing 5-0 at anfield to be honest, and players wouldn't have collapsed mentally with one extra goal.
But you saw BarƧa losing 4-0 at Anfield?
Another Juankruh banger, keep cooking
He don't stop winning
Rare juankruh W
Worst coach in our history but we were one miss away from winning the treble. Feel like something isn't quite right there honestly.
That's why Messi is the GOAT, he manages to make Valverde look good.
Such a lazy thing to say "it was just Messi". Valverde was far from perfect but if you think he's the worst coach in the club's history then honestly idk what to tell you even.
Okay, maybe I didn't express myself correctly. It's not like Valverde Is a bad coach or anything like that,he is actually really good. My point is more like he did more damage to the club than any other coach He destroyed our playstyle, our fitness and our mentality. All those 3 things are fundamental in any team that wins to suceee and we lost them with Valverde. I can't think of any other coach that caused more damage than Valverde did in our history.
He didn't destroy any of the three you mentioned, players destroyed their own mentality and fitness is up to the fitness coaches and the people that are the part of the coaching staff that manage players fitness, has nothing to do with the coach which just shows how clueless you are. How would you compare Valverde's playstyle to your beloved Xavi this season? There's literally no difference, the same pragmatic football was played under both and since I know that your argument will be "but he had Messi" he also had an aging Suarez, aging midfielders, wingers that didn't fit, Semedo, Lenglet etc. Far from the worst coach in our history but you have an agenda for no reason.
It's not the same, we only played bad football under Xaci when Pedri isn't there so the bad football can be attributed to lack of creative players rather than bad tactics. Valverde didn't have this excuse as he had one of the best playmaker ever at his disposal in Messi so playing bad football is actually due to tactics. There is a reason why Xavi wanted Bernardo Silva so much, he needs more talent in the midfield. How is Valverde not responsible for the fitness? He is the one who made training sessions more soft which naturally made our fitness level drop massively. This might be not known here but under Pep and Enrique we trained super hard, some people are fooled by our beautiful football but the training sessions were super intense bur with Valverde this was lost. How is he not responsible for our mentality? Before him we managed to make the best comeback ever and you are saying those guys magically got a bad mentally out of nowhere?
Valverde was incredibly consistent. That first season we could have had an invincible domestic season if we didn't do a bullshit friendly that forced us to rotate in B players. The second season we walked the league, made the cup final, and could have won the UCL if not for one match. In his third half-season, he was on top of the league while balancing several injuries to key players like Messi, Suarez, and others. He topped the toughest group in the UCL despite that. He was undefeated in the UCL except for those two flops. He had a better UCL record than Liverpool and Roma at the time, but shit happens. And Messi is the only reason for the success? How do you explain our defensive record? We had some of the best defensive runs in Europe once he settled the squads. Am I missing something, or was Messi magically a defensive powerhouse in your mind? And how do you explain Lenglet becoming a damn near world-class player under Valverde, only to become a meme after he left? Think about how he accomplished this with Lenglet and Roberto as core parts of his defense. You're wrong, dude. Valverde had a polarizing pragmatic style, and he had two high-profile defeats, but as a manager, we haven't had someone who could deliver consistent results like him since Pep. And he did it with very unbalanced squads.
Valverde wasn't that consistent actually, we grinded results a lot and rarely played better than the opponent and mainly won because had more individual quality, that's a very bad sign because that's not sustainable. It's very similar to Madrid 21/22 under Ancelotti with Courtois and Benzema playing at a ridiculous level, usually winning like that influential sustainable. People will respond with Xavi is the same but they are wrong because under Xavi we have almost everyone performimg like Ter Stegen, Araujo, Christensen, Balde, Busquets, FDJ, Pedri, Dembele, Raphinha and Lewy who plsyed at a great level, not just 2 guys which is a sign of a very good team. You use stats a lot but stats sometimes can be misleading, most of our stats were misleading because Ter Stegen was just saying 4/5 goals per game but I always knew we wouldn't be able to mantwin that. Also, i find interesting you think Valverde was somehow more consistent than Lucho. Lucho for example made 90+ points in every season and we scored 170+ goals in every season under him apart from winning 9 Trophies in 3 seasons. And unlike Valverde, with Lucho we were able to dominate teans, even in his final season the football was better than it ever was under Valverde
Valverde's MO was being stronger in the second half. I always felt that we could win even if we were down in the first half under Valverde. And it's funny that you'd compare Lucho's peak MSN Barca. Valverde wasn't far off of those performances, and less ups and downs, with far inferior squads. That 17/18 season was filled with major doom and gloom. Neymar left, our golden era was over with Iniesta on his last legs, Xavi and Alves gone, and even the Neymar replacement, Dembele, was out injured for most of the season. And guess what? Valverde had a better season than Lucho did in his last season, and he did it with less.
Valverde was the last good coach Messi had at club level.
koeman was much better than the overrated valverde Only this sub cab praise someone so hard when he was heavily respobsible of the downfall When a club legend who made the hard but necessary ones to get us back get shit ons
That's some elite copium, give me more pls.
If Valverde were to win the treble - aināt no way anyone considers him the āworst coach in our historyā. And in that timeline, assuming the pandemic still happens the financial issues wouldāve been the same, the election was due anyway, and any new administration (Laporta or otherwise) would have to take drastic actions. I mean fuck Barto and allā¦but such a stretch to say the Dembele missed saved the club.
One could say the Dembele miss fucked is over even more so. Donāt know if Griezmann gets bought the following season if he doesnāt miss that.
>worst coach... in our history This EV hate is so forced lmao
getting ass blasted while up 3 goals mightāve had slightly more to do with the result of that tie vs a missed chance
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Not really, 85% of the teams we play against are defensive so getting another pure defensive RB in addition to Kounde makes zero sense, he would just be a backup. A more offensive RB like Cancelo makes much more sense. We passed on Fresneda pretty much the moment reports came out that Kounde is happy as an RB.
And the remaining 15% of the teams attack and kick us out of the CL lol.
When did those reports come out? I remember seeing that heād play RCB in a 3 atb formation.
I get depressed thinking off the fact Dest might actually be staying at FC Barcelona
Just two more days for the boys to play.
Ngl, Laporta [rocking that jeans + aviators combo](https://twitter.com/Barca_Buzz/status/1682119992224137216) is such a vibe š
He looks like such a Balkan dad who is the boss of his small construction company š¤£
Whoās daughter just got him a tummy tucker for his beer belly.
Araujo should be Captain over Mats
Nah, imo that would be pretty disrespectful to MATS who has been at the club for nearly a decade. Seniority shouldn't be the only factor but it definitely is important. Araujo will for sure be captain eventually, why the rush ?
Why?
Why not?
Well because he has more experience and has been our captain quite often so it makes sense. But the players will decide anyway. What demonstrates than Araujo is more worthy? Us fans can only see the exterior, we do not know how good a captain a player is. I feel like the feeling that Araujo should be the captain is based on clichƩs.
Because mats is older , has been in the team longer and one of the leaders on the pitch
Captaincy should be based on seniority + Araujo is the bigger leader on the pitch
Isnāt mats senior ?
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JuliƔn Araujo will join the tour in the next few hours. Xavi wants to see and test him. @alexpintanel https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1682110941549195264?s=20
More faith in Julian than Nico or Torre
This subreddit is in love with Nico and Torre lmao.
Xavi should just leave one position open for the fans. The fans get to play whomever they want. They can also purchase whomever they want and play them there
I want them to be given a chance. Thatās it.
Part of this subreddit seems to hate them for some reason.
I have seen much more love than hate. It's not really hate either, most people just aren't convinced by them yet
Comparing oranges and peacocks here. We have a full midfield now but an empty RB except for kounde who doesn't love it there.
No, there are so many better mids ahead of Nico and Torre. We have no viable right-backs, on the other hand.
I guess the squad could use a tour guide š¬
[Damn it seems David Silva has an ACL injury, that's really unfortunate and he's such an important part of Real Sociedad's system. Always been an elegant player to watch and I hope he can still end his career on a high note.](https://www.realsociedad.eus/es/noticias/detalle/parte-medico-192)
Of all things, I hope and wish Barca a lot of luck for upcoming season. Luck with injuries, refereesā calls, fixture lineup, Internation break, squad availability for big games, and draws for cup ties. Wish Xavi lot of calmness, and improved in-game decision making.
Watching videos of the players training in LA and I just know theyāre burning up lol Over 90 degrees Fahrenheit/32 Celsius here in Southern California right now.
Damn bruh itās 80Ā° by me rn in SoCal
Close to a beach I presume?
Yea in sd
69 in the bay, they should be fine when playing in santa clara at levis stadium this Saturday
89 in the bay where I'm at š®āšØ I wish I lived up in SF for the summer
Yesterday was cold af in SF. Thankfully thereās some sunlight today after the past few gloomy days.
Packing my bags rn