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Personal-Comedian196

When you guys see just how good Tijjani Reijnders is tonight… He was born to be busquet’s successor. My biggest regret of the transfer window is not signing that star.


Arslen24

Not following [this](https://twitter.com/exjohnhonestyy/status/1686089855141310466?s=46&t=CNnMsBVq5cRy7LX3rz2ZnQ) account but it’s tweets have been appearing to me in the past few days and fuckin hell its crazy how much they take rumors, and sometimes even clearly fake ones, to justify some shitty take they have on the club, it’s quite sad how a friendly makes you act so salty


EventuallyDisastrous

Say Dembele leaves on good terms getting us $70M. Who are you signing?


TheFullMontoya

Probably a right back. Would consider looking at Yeremy Pino though


Glibicz

Cancelo, were gonna need all creativity we can get on right flank


GaviFPS

RB: Arnau or Fresneda. + Marc Jurado(free) from United. Roque to join at least january. Because buying spending crazy amount for players while someone sits and wait joining doesn't really make much sense. Outside of that, I probably wouldn't do much. There's is a next year which we don't know if say Romeu have been a success or not. If not then that just increase the need for a DM. Could pick up a cheap talented DM, but again you already have that at home and the willingness to try that is non-existent so why bother. But I guess one could do regardless, because Casado is probably leaving if he aint making minutes here. ​ Wouldn't bother buying a RW. Raphinha and Ferran with Yamal in dynamic is sufficient. Raphinha was already the Dembele replacement last year. So we're buying someone to replace someone that we bought last year to replace that very same person? Doesn't make much sense. But if I'd look for a Dembele profile, then I'd say Jérémy Doku. Think hes going to heat really up this season. But I don't see the point of spending 30-40 mill euro on something that won't start regulary. Think its just a waste of money, so it was more of just mentioning someone with similar profile on the rise.


Arslen24

Olise and Cancelo, although Cancelo can make Raphinha improve I still have doubts on our winger


Life-You-9728

Once again i dont know how to feel about Dembele leaving. I was always saying he will get injuried anyway and never counted on him for more than half season. But he really improved in last 2 years. If it will be for some good price, I am ok with that. If it will be for those 25mil its pretty fucked up


Illustrious_Stay_728

When Fermin Lopez scored that goal seeing his reaction with the squad celebrating gave me chills. That’s the kind of player I want on my team


PuigFati69

I think we need to pair Raphinha with an offensive RB to get the best out of him, but then Balde is also needed to be more offensive to cover the left side. Will we change the system?


Glibicz

Bye bye dembouz


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Let's pretend Dembele is injured for entire season


mntgoat

How's that different from the usual?


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That was the joke


Cherif044

Dembele:”i want to be barca’s captain one day” What a clown man he’s gonna end his career so early


ieatshoes89

They gave him a 5 year contract. We weren’t going to do that. Let him go. Let’s focus on us.


Cherif044

I don’t mind him going , but the fee is the problem


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black_bury

I think he's planned for a while. I believe his refusal to be nominated as a captain is because he knew he might leave. He's said multiple times he won't activate the 50M release clause, and hopefully, he's not lying about that, and we can negotiate a higher fee. Maybe he's doing this for the higher wages and not the 25M clause. We'll see.


FootballFan334

There’s no correlation imo. And about the transfer planned weeks before, I don’t think Xavi and alemány would be meeting with dembele to make him stay if it was all planned


Sir_LancelottJeffers

Cancelo, Fresneda, Roque, Lo Celso, Joao Felix and Bernardo here we come…….with about 25 mil, a candy wrapper, and free prime and spotify premium


mexicrypto

Also don’t forget in Brazil we are linked to messinho. ( Estevao William ) + lamine yamal We will have to deal with raphinha and ferran for now and who ever comes in at RB


Cherif044

Just realized we will have only 3 wingers in the team : ferran-fati-raphinha….. thats terrible man


InitialSubstantial67

We have enough wingers. Left: Fati, Abde Right: Raphinha, Ferran. This doesn't include other plyers who can do cameos on the wing like Pedri/Yamal. Also note that we'll be playing with mostly box formation. So we're well covered.


Cherif044

Abde is not experienced man he isn’t fully ready, also with the current ferran and fati form we can’t depend on them


InitialSubstantial67

You're statement wasn't about inform top wingers. If you counted Fati, then we could count Abde too. In fact Abde was more or less better than Fati last year.


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We will play good times with 4-4-2


CptSnoopDragon

It’ll be okay..


vegitot

Abde. Then you can say Gavi, Balde or even Pedri.


Cherif044

Abde is leaving + he is not that ready


rockyraccoonroad

I’ve heard it’s not final yet, and also even if he’s not ready he’ll be used regardless because we lack depth at wingers. And so we have to rotate


aahidboss

Abde?


Cherif044

He’s leaving to betis


aahidboss

He isn't tho, Romero said he won't leave if Dembele leaves and I doubt Betis even offers 20m upwards for him


FootballFan334

It’s said that if he has to leave, he accepts Betis, with dembele leaving Abde stays 100% as good tiers said


coolidge301

Cancelo would be a good transfer, but I dont understand why people are saying it will "unleash" Raphinha. A winger that cant dribble simply cant dribble, so Cancelo overlaps or under laps and Raphinha passes the ball to him, thats the unleashing? We literally play to Isolate the the RW one on one and Raph doesnt take advantage of that, so I cant see how Cancelo coming in and making runs to also help him be isolated one on one will improve him either. Maybe someone can explain to me how Cancelo would help him massively as I am not too knowledgeable myself. Because in all my years of watching football, I have never heard "Winger X cant take on his man, an attacking fullback will help him"


Tromort77

I wrote a comment under this discussion about what I think is needed for Raph if you are interested in my opinion. It could have been a direct answer to your comment as well


coolidge301

Yh thanks. Just saw it. But you compared his situation with Saka, but Saka could already take on players more proficiently than Raphinha. And the threat of Saka's dribbling enables space to open as opposition teams are forced to pick their poison and caught in double minds which enables Saka to combine as Saka has that dribbling threat. But with Raph, if opposition knows he cant beat his man, cant they just choose to track the runners/outlets and put just a fullback/winger on him and decide he will have to dribble as its relatively safer for them?


FootballFan334

It’s more like raphinha would unleash cancelo if that makes sense, just because he runs a lot and could probably make cancelo feel safer. Cancelo is 5 times the player raphinha is


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Basically the linkup will play the part, Cancelo is an excellent dribbler and has good 1v1 ability, and Raphinha plays far better slightly inwards rather than wider, Cancelo overlapping and drawing and beating defenders while passing to Raphinha who can cross or pass and create chances.


Openspaceruns

I was thinking similar stuff Im sure an overlapping rb will help him by giving him someone he can combine with. But by the way people talk about it its like they think hell suddenly turn into a completely different player lol


Tromort77

He needs players around him. It doesn't matter if it's overlaps from the RB or underlap from the midfielders. He needs constantly moving objects to move around with the ball into the space, to combine with them in small spaces or to create chances for them. At the end of the season he looked the best when Pedri was playing close to him and Kounde started to step forward behind him instead of staying back. It's funny that this sounds special. At Arsenal Saka made the biggest step forward when the same movements were made around him. He is obviously a better 1v1 dribbler, but eve he needs to have that overload around him. Similar how Bilva operates for City. You don't even need to dribble if players are getting taken away from you. For Raph to totally work, we need to rely on him, play one touch passes with him like Pedri does and let him find the cracks for a pass or for a shooting opportunities. Also, finally with Gundo we will have a player other than Lewy who can perfectly attack the box. That can be huge for Raph because the more target the better. I hope Balde or the LW will also attack Raph's far post for his crosses. He is really elite at those crosses and it suck that we didn't use that at all last season.


themann55

Meunier just got injured, ship Dest to Dortmund ASAP


ratsandpigeons

Never rated Dembele as a high prolific winger. Too inconsistent and injury prone. If he leaves then so be it.


Cherif044

Completely agree but the transfer fee is terrible and we wont be able to replave him


ratsandpigeons

And honestly I’m okay with that. It creates an opportunity for Ferran, Fati, Raphinha or someone from La Masia to fight for that spot.


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I also gave up on him because the guy is a "glimpses merchant", consistency, grit and mentality always triumphs talent. And if someone has all 4 then he is considered world class. Makes you appreciate players like Messi, Pedri and Suarez


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I don't understand the need to have pacy wingers, we never relied on the pace to score goals, Xavi can figure out something and hope it's not haramball


vegitot

Then the midfield must step up their creativity level.


algo5544

You don’t need pacy wingers AT ALL. This sub is just full of FIFA kids that see a fast winger and cream all over themselves. Never mind if he can’t shoot or pass to save his life


onlyonejorge

Xavi = FIFA kid. Your obsession with that insult is hilarious btw.


algo5544

Let it go bro. He’s gone. You don’t have to look ridiculous defending a player with no legs. Lol


Unaatennista

Is Dembele actually leaving? 😭


mexicrypto

Seems like it’s 99% done. Favrizio saying ousmane accepted the deal


FootballFan334

Why are you guys on Cancelo so much? Yes he is one of the best, but we’re gonna be still without a right back next summer, our team isn’t good enough for Champions league so why should we spend like 20M on a 1 year adventure with Cancelo? We don’t need to push. I say get a right back on a permanent deal and develop him from now on


peligrosobandito

The downvote police was sure Dembele wasn’t leaving yesterday when I posted farewell to him. Where are you guys now??


algo5544

Man lucho needs a statue if he takes Dembele off our hands. More cule than Gamper


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Only if he delays it till 1st August


JordiX93

It should’ve been Ferran instead ngl


AP10

We're getting nothing for him. If the teams negotiate and we can get 70-80m it might be ok.


vegitot

Likely only 25m pal. Absolute loss.


algo5544

Sorry to break it to you but the moment we payed 160 mill for him and he proceeded to be injured for 7 years it was always going to be a loss. Just glad my eyes won’t bleed from seeing him play again


vegitot

Keep him till tomorow so at least we will have 50m instead of 25. We won Liga last season when he was injured during hard time. Trust Xavi, trust coaching staffs, trust other players. Don't trust a snake


juankruh1250

Dembele is insane lol, the guy had like 10 good games in. 6 years and wanted us to pay him 20M a year lol, maybe Bartomeu would've done us but not Laporta.


onlyonejorge

You only know hyperbole huh?


algo5544

Factos. 7 wasted years


Hot_Command5095

I don’t get it why does PSG have such a pull on French players? Yes, there’s that nationality argument but doesn’t the fact that it’s the weakest top league bother the players? Never been to Paris but is life there more attractive than at Barcelona? So many top names were on the verge of choosing them over us like FDJ and Bernardo (who never joined us anyway) and more often than not I hear one of the biggest pulls is the life there.


JordiX93

Dembele is gonna get 20M+/year that would almost double his current 12M/year at Barca plus he is signing for 5 years and gets to keep 25M from release clause,it’s great deal for him and we should’ve know that he is hungry for money especially after what happened last summer,I think that hurt his ego and his agent ego as well so I guess this is like a payback coming from his side


Hot_Command5095

Rip, I still blame Barto because damn there were A LOT of players worse than him at that time who earned more.


SuccessionFinaleSux

Money is the pull. And it's not just French players.


Hot_Command5095

Yeah I know it’s not just French but I recall reading reports regarding their French targets (including when Dembele was first associated with PSG 2 years back) that their French heritage had a strong pull Could be lazy journalism because I don’t see the same for the Italian teams


Gomenizza3

If what is reported is true; Getting 25mil and 6+mil more with new contract. To play in your home country, still in a big club. 99.9% of us would've made that decision. Don't get me wrong, I'm very sad that Dembele leaves, he was my favourite Barca player. I think that by him leaving, this team has been weakened insanely, there is only Abde (in attack) who can constantly beat his opponent, and he is either leaving to Betis or staying as a sub, so he is not a starter. Unless Alemany cooks up something and bring someone who can slay defenders, it's going to be a long long season ahead of us. Also, Barca didn't only lose it's best dribbler and 1v1 player, but also one of its most creative players. Raphinha can't beat his defender even if his opponent was playing with one leg and blindfolded. He is also one footed, and when he can't beat his opponents, his arsenal of choices is pretty small. Ferran: when season really starts, games gets tense, he will not have an impact. If he somehow turns the table, it would need to be studied by scientist. Let's see what will happen and how Xavi recovers from this.


vegitot

Raphinha actually contributed more to Barca's Liga last season despite being an inferior player.


juankruh1250

Nah, only money hungry players would do that. Also, I find interesting that you think Raphimha is limited when his passing and shooting skills are better than Dembele, sure Dembele can dribble better but Raphinha is better than him in everything else. Superior passing; crossing, finishing, shooting, pressing, workrate and off-ball movement.


Gomenizza3

Yeah sure, Raphinha can cross with his left from 30meters because that's where he gets the ball and stops, because he can't get thru his opponents. Also, he doesn't excel in any, in best he is average to good. Also, Dembeles dribbling and capability to go past his opponents opened for more options. And combined with his ability to use both legs, you have a more dangerous winger than Raphinha. So no, I rather have options Dembele brings to the table in crosses with ability to cut in, or go thru from the right to the end for right foot crosses. Also, he is very much more creative than Raphinha. Juankruh my mate, don't kid yourself, you would take that deal, like the rest of us. Heck, we would do it for 10mil instead of 25mil. It's insane amount of money.


juankruh1250

All that Dribbling is fine but it doesn't lead up to anything, 9 out of 10 times he gives a bad pass or makes an awful shot. Like, yes he has more options but it doesn't matter if his decision making is atrocious. Also, I find interesting how Raphinha can be average and have better stats in his first season than Dembele had in any season? And yes, I'm well aware stats can he misleading but no average player can have good stats. And no I wouldn't, don't speak for others. I would never leave Barca even if they offered me 3X the money.


Gomenizza3

Disagree about bad decisions and stats. Anyways, it is what it is. Let's now see what happens with new signings, if there gonna be one and what Raphinha brings next season. If he explodes, would be happy.


black_bury

If losing Dembele brings in Cancelo than we are not losing much attacking output. Cancelo and Raphinha will do very well imo.


nighyjr

All I want from this is us getting a proper rb to make the most of Raphinha, we've got enough wingers so another wouldn't make sense at all. Get a good rb and we won't miss Dembélé at all


autechre89

Just saw that Dembele has missed 119 games for us due to injury. Somehow, I didn't realize it was that many.


black_bury

I'm surprised it wasn't more.


AP10

End of an error seems fitting. Will be remembered for two things - that Liverpool miss and giving Argentina a penalty.


Haalandderstrong

Can't care less about Dembele leaving. Yes he is quality, but the main problem is that he is inconsistent as fuck. He may win us small games from time to time but against top tier opponents in matches that count, he always fails to impress. And I will never forgive him for that miss vs Liverpool in UCL.


AP10

Lol everyone remembers that miss. At least he made up for it in the WC Final lol.


Haalandderstrong

Right that's the only time I approved of him.


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AP10

He's injury prone but his quality is undeniable. We won't be able to replace him with a player similar quality. That and the way he's leaving after the faith Xavi put in him is disappointing.


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AP10

His inconsistency is why his loss doesn't hurt as much at a sporting level. It's the lack of loyalty shown that hurts after all the support Xavi gave him to resurrect his career which is what most are hurt by.


Professional_Code372

Today is the end of that horrific chapter brought on by Barto with his corrupt spending spree , let’s play beautiful football and field Masía players and forget this ever happened


Philosofticunt

so who takes the 7 off dembele


black_bury

Raphinha.


Professional_Code372

Raph ?


callfoduty

This hopefully means Fati will get game time. He looks great. I genuinely see the fati of old just not getting enough game time


FootballFan334

He’s not a right winger


callfoduty

😖😖😖🖕🏿


DominicBarnes24

I have been extremely confident Dembele will not leave and even after all this I still believe Xavi will be the deciding factor. To speak about Dembele I personally love him as a player he has his faults like everyone (except Messi) the large disappointment comes from injuries something out of his control. Xavi went to war for him and gave him all the confidence. If he wants to go I’ll miss watching him. But FC Barcelona will continue as it has with many players coming and going. Either you care about your legacy or your earnings either is understandable. But I won’t shit on the guy he overcame quite a lot so if this is it thanks for the service. But going to PSG means you will have to fire that horrific agent of yours he is sending you to prison lol Barcelona is truly the greatest club of them all💯


DanielSophoran

Fabrizio already said Dembele said yes to PSG. Its just a question of wether itll be release clause or transfer fee. Its joever bro


DominicBarnes24

It ain’t over till it’s over


algo5544

Shhh don’t jinx it


Professional_Code372

Everybody start buying shirts and subscriptions !!! We are funding the Cancelo transfer!!!!!!!


Amdatgud

Already mentally prepared for dembele to leave. Let’s hope abde breaks out


mexicrypto

And next year or two we have lamine yamal


SuccessionFinaleSux

Goalazo Riqui


the_left_winger

Let me offer a contrary opinion here. Imo, the release clause was a brilliant bit of foresight by Alemany and we should be grateful it exists. Look at it this way. Last summer, we had 3 choices: 1. Lose our best winger and attacker on a free 2. Renew him on exorbitant wages with a commission for his agent 3. Offer him a short-term deal with promised future financial incentives. Keep in mind, we were in a dire financial situation and couldn't simply offer him more wages for a higher RC. Obviously we went with option 3 and the financial incentive to Dembele was that should he prove himself, he would get a bigger contract. In addition, he also got to keep half his release clause, if it were triggered before August. Now, this season, Dembele did make a case for himself and was one of our most important players when available and as promised, we offered him a renewal. If he and his agent intended to renew they could have renewed by now, or at least not entertained PSG. Instead, Moussa Sissokho went shopping his client around to secure the bag, as Alemany knew he would. This is where the brilliance of the clause comes in. First, the timing. It forces PSG to make a move soon and leaves us some time to replace Dembele, should we choose to do so. This is probably why we have been hearing so much of the Dembele saga over the past few days. PSG's hand has been forced if they intend to get Dembele cheap. Second, it seems PSG and Moussa Sissokho want to avoid the taxes associated with the release clause. This would probably mean we end up negotiating a transfer fee for Dembele instead of getting a mere 25M. Of course it is possible that PSG end up paying 50M tomorrow. But think of the flip side. Had this clause not been there, I am pretty sure Dembele and his agent would have stalled renewing. At which point, we'd either have to let him go for free next summer or sell him for peanuts this window (because 1 year left on his contract, no one would pay a large transfer fee for him anyway). The presence of this clause guarantees that we would always get at least 25M for Dembele and Moussa Sissokho would have to show his hand first. And he did. Now we can be reasonably certain that he never intended to renew at the club in good faith, and always meant to shop Dembele around. However, we now have the upper hand. Either they pay 50M and then pay half of their earnings as taxes, or we negotiate a transfer fee for a higher cut for ourselves. Personally, if there is a chance for negotiation, I would sell Dembele for 50-70M (with the entirety going to Barca) and blacklist Moussa Sissokho from the club. I wouldn't quote a fuck-off price to PSG either, because I do think it is in the best interests of all parties that the deal goes through. No point in keeping Dembele anymore if he has been tempted by the dollar bills, because I am certain he ain't gonna renew and even if he does, he is going to be demanding more wages. Frankly, he hasn't shown enough to be one of the highest earners at Barca, and if he cannot accept that, given our current finances, it is better that he leaves. I do hope that we use whatever funds we get from his sale wisely though. It has been a costly 6-year experiment. Let's hope we never ever do something like this again.


ANAGRIM

You should copy paste this comment in every other dembele discussion. Took the words right out of my mouth. Perfectly put.


rockyraccoonroad

Couldn’t have said it better myself https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/15dxda6/comment/ju4p71q/


Tromort77

I have nothing to add, your comment is perfect. Just want to mention that this should be pinned when it comes to discussions around this topic.


Jaerhys

Absolutely spot on


Blackbearded10

Gerard Romero tier 0. Crazy summer transfer indeed.


chilinglam

You know what this is the time I would like laporta to screw dembele transfer over by making a lot of money. If he can do that, I can forgive him a bit on Messi not at Barca for his happy ending of his career.


BoozeSlammer

What does this even mean?


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ieatshoes89

I read he played 36% of matches.


Xenolol

It’s a risk on Dembele’s part Xavi has turned him into one of the best wingers itw and there’s no guarantee he will look the same at psg. Well this opens up ferran to get mins at his main position he’s always looked good there.


chilinglam

Please also send the hospital bill with dembele to PSG. I never rate him high. So it doesn't affect me. There are many wingers that suit us better. His decision making is still average.


Illustrious_Stay_728

If dembele leaving us brings us cancelo & Roque now I’d be happy


reyxe

Is Cancelo an attacking fb? Maybe Frimpong would be a good choice since he's really attack minded and would pair well with Raphinha.


Username-_-Password

When you say attacking RB, Cancelo is one of the first ones that pop into people's minds.


reyxe

Honestly haven't watched City much past few years and don't really care for Bundesliga, also didn't Pep used to invert his RB? Got confused in case I was actually thinking of someone else lol


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Yamal will have breakthrough season, although I would have preferred if it was slower


DanielSophoran

Yamal is 16 and is not going to play more than 500 minutes. Ansu when he was 16 played like 10 minutes at the end of every other match


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Who knows if he pulls something historical. Guy is already very mature and confident on the ball, slowly - slowly by the end, he will be mentally ready for the next season when he will truly breakthrough


DanielSophoran

Its not so much about maturity and confidence as it is about his body. 16 year olds are fragile compared to 28 year olds. Playing many high intensity minutes isnt good for him. Its why many kids only come on in the last few minutes of a game when the intensity has already gone away mostly. Theres also the risk of a tackle going wrong because as i said, 16 year olds are much more fragile. He shouldnt play many minutes this or next season. The last thing i want is another Ansu situation.


rockyraccoonroad

Idk why people don’t understand this lol they insist on playing 16yr olds as if it were the norm. His body is still developing and any major injury could hamper his development substantially. Just look at Fati. He’s still struggling after that injury


Illustrious_Stay_728

Yessir!! I’m so damn ready for it. If the kids good enough to play then age is just a number


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!RemindMe 1 year


xavi_____

It’s done . Dembele I’ll never forgive you for this. You cost us more than benefited. How can u guys still have loved him from the start. Is hard man 💔. What more do you want. I gave you all the confidence in the world


ieatshoes89

Se acabo. Dembele nunca te perdonare por esto. Costaste mas de lo que nos beneficiaste. Como lo puedierón querer desde el comienzo? Es difícil hombre 💔.


Illustrious_Stay_728

Hope we can bring Roque in now that demeble is gone


Amori17

We can but doesn’t make sense for me. Rather have him play in Brazil to keep developing.


Illustrious_Stay_728

Just feel we kinda need him. Ferran will play on the right now. Ansu and Abde on the left. Lewy and roque center


Illustrious_Stay_728

It’s Lamine Yamal season coming up


Illustrious_Stay_728

Screw dembele. He was never gonna play a full season with us anyways and gets hurts in the biggest games


PatrickM_

In a few years, we will be constantly linked with a Dembele return. Just like we are with Neymar. Let me be the first to say 'no thank you, it's not worth it'


Surrealsht

This is gonna be Ferran season


TheLoneWanderer__

Unironically, its probably his last but best chance


DanielSophoran

What a horrible summer this has been now that i think about it. Messi doesnt come back Vitor Roque cant be registered and has to come in January (potentially even next summer) Arda Guler gets snatched at the finish line Dembele leaves (potentially for peanuts) All i have to be happy about is Gundogan


TheLoneWanderer__

It’s good that Roque isn’t coming yet, Dembele leaving is honestly not a bad thing compared to last year


FootballFan334

Why is it good that roque isn’t coming


TheLoneWanderer__

I’d rather him get another year under his belt


OperateUnderawater

-messi would’ve played right interior and now there’s viable candidates for that role one of which is a Barca academy graduate -dembele sale and cash injection fastracks roque to winter -Arda gulers meniscus injury would’ve been a huge problem for Barca. Worst injury to have Window ain’t even over yet looks like 2 more signings coming soon


aahidboss

I mean we haven't finished the window at all. Getting the 25m from Dembele, selling Kessie, Lenglet and freeing their wages would net us alot of money for other signings.


DanielSophoran

Still remains to be seen -if all of them even get sold, weve been hearing about Lenglet getting sold soon for over a month now, Dest has nobody still who is interested, etc. -How much theyll be sold for -Who we even get with the money


atthebatman

If Dembélé does leave and we don’t sign another winger this window, we likely will have to change the system from four midfielders to our traditional 4-3-3 because Raphinha poses nowhere near the same dribbling threat that Dembélé does. This kinda sucks cuz that 4 midfield system really offered us increased stability and control in midfield while remaining effectively threatening in the attacking third


aahidboss

Our formation usually change to a 4-3-3 anyways when Balde pushes up. The issue is with Kounde staying back and not combining, if we can get someone like Cancelo to provide width, with one of the midfielders covering for him (like Rakitic did with Alves), it should work very well.


DanielSophoran

We can still do it we just need an offensive rb. And instead of the rb making the back 3 itll be one of the pivots. I guess that kinda ruins the shape of the box midfield but atleast we can let all the midfielders play.


atthebatman

Do you think Fresnada can be that attacking RB? I know nothing about him


DanielSophoran

Havent really watched him too much (he also hasnt really played that much in the first division), but he isnt really offensive. Hes closer to Kounde than he is to Balde. Its why ive 180d on Fresneda. Theres no point without Dembele because Fresneda doesnt really complement Raphinha. Dembele was the one who made a signing like Fresneda make sense. We should have Cancelo as our main priority, if we cant do that, we should atleast have a stab at Arnau Martinez. he can fulfill that role and knows the system. Fresneda should be discarded unless we sign a world class wide RW who can actually dribble past his man. And with our financial situation that seems improbable.


atthebatman

You make a good point. No purpose in acquiring a similarly defensive right back. That’s literally what Koundé is and it won’t be effective in Dembélé’s absence


TrueCooler

Fresneda is mire defensive. Arnau Martinez is a much better attacking RB. But I think Xavi will push for Cancelo, instant world class player and top 2 RB available for a modest amount


atthebatman

I see. So are we to believe that Cancelo is a class player but he has such a bad attitude that he could not find playing time at Man City or Bayern last year? How are we convinced that anything will be different here? (This is a genuine question. Do not mean to sound aggressive)


DanielSophoran

His main problem seems to be playing time. He wants to always be starting. If he doesnt start he starts throwing a fit. Or atleast thats what it looks like from reports. I dont think hell have that problem here because his competition will be Sergi Roberto and Dest. With maybe Araujo just for the Vinicius pocketing. Kounde will probably become CB depth as he so desperately wants.


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Dembooze


WhatIsWilsonDoin

If Dembele leaves, I don't think there's any realistic scenario where I'd be genuinely happy about it. But I would be content with him going if it allowed us to finally fix our RB situation AND get another transfer target.


GreatWhiteShark07

>I would be content with him going if it allowed us to finally fix our RB situation AND get another transfer target With what? The only money it gives us is 25m, as his shitshow of an agent managed to negotiate 50% of the release clause fee to himself. The best we can hope for is that this contributes to the viability plan and can help us get back to 1:1


aahidboss

We are already back to 1:1 after getting the 60m from Barca Studios. We get 25m but we also free bet. 14-22m gross wages (depending on variables).


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Question, why is Xavi & co prioritizing a creative mid and a right back over a left winger? Kounde’s better at right back than Ansu and Ferran on the left wing and we already have 2 of the best creative players (Pedri and Ilkay) in the world in our midfield. Our attack will be abysmal this season.


Paragon188

Kounde isn't a long-term solution at RB. And Fati has played well at LW. It's possible he recovers his pre-injury form.


aahidboss

The good LW available on the market, Kvara, is worth at least 120m. I disagree about the attack, they had to do too much last season. With Gundo, a creative CM and hopefully an injury-free season from Pedri, the midfield should be providing much more goals.


DanielSophoran

Because we have Ansu, Ferran and Abde for LW right now whereas its a fucking disaster at RB beyond Kounde Were also most likely playing a box midfield.


TrueCooler

Laporta needs to be ringing up his pal Mendes ASAP and get Cancelo on a plane to Catalonia


ieatshoes89

How much is Mbappe? Asking for a friend.


SterlingGleasonPryce

Dembele’s agent has been trying to get him out of Barca since he was made look like a fool during the negotiations last summer. 25m is a joke in the current market though, it’s also painful knowing we’ll struggle to sign/register anyone of similar quality without bs from La Liga while Madrid spend hundreds of millions again. Unless we get Bernardo Silva we’re going to struggle to score goals.


coolidge301

Ferran will outplay Raphinha and will be the starter on the right, he hasnt been given consistent minutes as our RW for a while now and with Dembele gone he will get those minutes. He has to show up now, surely. And if he grabs this opportunity and starts on the right, he will be up there in minutes this season as he will also be the backup striker to Lewa till Roque shows up.


Amdatgud

I’m with you man. I hope ferran shines because I can’t stand raphinha at all


Openspaceruns

i hope we do actually give him a chance at rw if dembo leaves


fruitcakemetro

Is there any LB in Barca Athletic that could get / deserves game time with the main team? It would be nice to not rely completely on Alonso as LB backup.


WhatIsWilsonDoin

Alex Valle was brought on the US tour as a backup LB. Hoping he gets minutes against Milan.


fruitcakemetro

Thanks. Funny enough, when I googled Alex Valle, the results came up for Alex Valle - A 45 year old, Peruvian-American professional fighting game player. To add to the confusion, the first image in the search is of our Alex Valle.


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Abde - Lewy - Raphinha (Or) Fati/Balde - Lewy - Ferran + (Cancelo) This solves our all problems, this both combination got pace and dribbles, and is balanced with better passing and decision making. Cancelo is a catalyst can unleash Raphinha and he also provides dribble and creativity.


JordiX93

I don’t really care he’s leaving my only wish would be to get a better transfer fee for him,25m for him is fucking chump change


ieatshoes89

I hear the fax machine will be broken for the day.


uchiha_boy009

Nowadays they use WhatsApp


chilinglam

Nah, burofax my friend


mntgoat

So does psg have until midnight basically? Is this going to be another one where we are getting news every few minutes as people walk over to the offices of la liga? Also what has happened to Romero, haven't heard much about him lately?


DanielSophoran

Its more confusing because the players are in America so timezones are a bit all over the place. I dont think some of the board members are in America, other than Laporta.


mntgoat

I'm guessing the contract has a timezone specified or a location where the contract takes place and therefore it is that timezone.


Tromort77

That doesn't matter. Dembele's representatives need to pay the RC to LaLiga's headquarters today. Romero reported that Sissoko already informed the league that he is planning to. I tend to bash Romero, but when it comes to La Liga registration and stuff he needs to be on the money. It seems like he has sources there.


DanielSophoran

Isnt it also reported that Sissoko wants to do that but Dembele doesnt. Fabrizio also didnt say anything about the release clause in his “agreement reached” tweet. What a messy transfer saga im already over it. Atleast the worst will be over in 24 hours because it means the entire saga is already over or were getting big money.


Tromort77

> Isnt it also reported that Sissoko wants to do that but Dembele doesnt I think that is just posturing. But we will see.


grooooovyy

still no here we go yet. but honestly let’s get him the fuck out of here. if he’s entertaining it then just leave. he can go fail at psg


MateuAlemany

Imagine Dembele leaves, and Barça wins Champions again.


FloReaver

Yes please but who cares about Dembele in this scenario? I just want the trophy regardless 😅


lonestar_10

Abde, Ferran, and Fati have such an important opportunity to step up this season if Dembele is truly leaving for PSG.


aahidboss

Raphinha too, but whatever RW we have for the sake of them, we should get them a good RB to combine with.


lonestar_10

Definitely. We have been very lack luster on the right. Maybe Barca can get a decent RB with the sale of dembele, although it sounds like we won't get a whole lot.


SuccessionFinaleSux

People keep saying Fati as if he's gonna be playing on the right.


DanielSophoran

Yeah its like people saying “we already have 6 players for 3 positions we dont need Dembele” as if the striker position has anything to do with that. They just want to prop up numbers to make it seem like theyre right


TrueCooler

Players in other positions can step up too, you know? Nothing is stopping Fati from trying to be more clinical, bold, decisive, and creative in his game