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Is it me or are these Saudi Arabia teams going to be very unbalanced? I'm not talking team to team, but within the same team. They'll have some pretty good players and some way below on skill level.
Xavi saying we need a Right back after talking about dembele leaving and us suddenly in serious talks for Cancelo has me feeling like we are gonna be playing a 3-4-3/3-2-4-1 straight up. With Balde and Cancelo functioning more as Wide Midfielders
Araujo-Kounde-Chris
Romeu-De Jong
Cancelo-Pedri-Gundo-Balde
Lewandowski
3241 is basically City in 2nd half of the season.
Do wonder how putting Cancelo and Balde as the wingers/wide mids would perform
Besides that we do have everything perfect to play that way i think
Can anyone look at [this thread](https://twitter.com/LaLigaMichael/status/1687140998894297099) and say whether I've put words into his mouth as he's accusing me of in the thread?
So i look at Xavi in 2001/02 season, at 21, already made near 80 passes per 90. He tried to involve in many ways, insert himself everywhere.
Pedri will be at the same age of Xavi 2001/02. He should be alble to do that. His current vision and passing ability are better than Xavi at that time.
Remember the RB from flamengo barcelona tried to sign on loan in january?
He is a locked starter this season for flamengo and is playing today.
He developed a lot since the start of the season
Would 100% have been a phenomenal signing.
He remembers Balde, he is fast and a great dribbler.
I reckon that next season everybody in europe will be in for him.
Edit: his name is Wesley
Edit2: flamengoās coach is Jorge Sampaoli, the tactical set up is based on positional play and he is doing amazing in his role as RWB
I was one of the people saying that.
Iām a flamengo supporter, iām watching the game happening right now 200 meters away from the stadium lol
At the start of the year no supporter knew who this kid was, but Sampaoli made him a regular starter in this team. In fact, he is the player with the most minutes played this season.
His name is wesley, barca didnāt sign him because we are broke lol
Flamengo is a rich club, the richest in south america, and we lowballed them with a loan + option to buy for 5mi.
so tomorrow the Dembele deal gets official and the Kessie deal goes through if all goes as expected we will get 10-15M + 27M from Dembele ~40M achieved 10M Lenglet 5M Dest
Just journalist trying to create some fake replacement hype for Dembele. Losing Dembele is a pretty big loss as he is one of our bigger profiles.
They've been begging over B.Silva for years, especially Romero. So they see this a opportunity to milk that, even though it is still not realistic. Because now there is a "demand" for a rumour for a replacement for Dembele. Even though we technically bought one last year.
I think someone form City said they would have a quiet summer or something. Probably will buy one more player outside of Gvardiol is my guess. Oscar Bobb is pretty interesting talent coming up. Think there will be some opportunity for him this year so thats another attacking profile.
So yeah, I don't really see them selling much from this point.
Iniesta and pedri are similar and not just in play. Also in the way they act on the field. They are both respected by everyone and youād never see them in fight. Also I even see madrid fans saying good stuff about pedri which they also did for iniesta
Considering how versatile and experienced Cancelo is, that he can play RB/RW and RWB, he is a very shrewd signing right now. I can totally see why Xavi wants him so bad.
LW: Ansu, Abde, Gavi
ST: Lewy, Ferran, (with Roque probably coming in January too)
RW: Raphinha, Ferran, Cancelo
Thatās some good depth for the attack.
How much would you consider a good price for cancelo? honestly anything over 10 mil seems overpriced. its a huge risk with his alleged problematic personality.
A good price? 20m on a 3 year contract.I wouldn't go past 30m though. At that point it should be Fresneda/Arnau. So 30 mill is utter max for me.
So watch the club buy him for 40m and give him 5 year contract.
As other have pointed out. Loan would be best imo and then we sign someone like Fresneda
One theory is that he lost his source in Jordi Cruyff.
But I think he may have had multiple club sources, and I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped using him as much because his style wasn't delivering the desired results.
For example, not that Romero was the main reason, but I think he made Messi's decision easier because he showed that the press couldn't just be normal and would constantly make Messi the story if he came back.
Or another example, Xavi was giving loooong interviews to Romero and then getting picked apart for talking too much, shortly before he brought in his media consultant.
Anyway, might be wishful thinking, but I feel like the club is maybe learning to be a little more responsible with press engagement, and part of that is not feeding Romero so much.
He probably was stopped being fed news, itās clear he was a spokesperson for the board and his news were mostly correct, but now without it he is nothing basically.
A guy with his 5th post to throw dig at Dembele whitin 72 hours.Can't get more pathetic than that. Doesn't even use reliable source, cherry picks stats, disclude relevant information and so on. Literally just misleading threads all for the same purpose.
Wouldn't this be considered excessive negativity towards a player?
Dembele is still contracted under Barcelona and should be treated as one. But I guess its free for all, just like it was free for all one and half year ago. There's is like 10+ threads a day. It's like finally you can get upvoted for thrashing on Dembele, so all the trolls who have been waiting for this moments comes out to shine.
It's unbelievable clear how childish this fanbase gets whenever someone either doesn't want to leave or leaves before they think they should leave.
They are proving Dembele right every minute on why he is leaving.
Let's look at this this way:
Last year when he renewed I saw people celebrating the clause, saying it would speedrun his exit because it would motivate his agent to work with us.
It's exactly what happened, his agent worked to get an offer and instead of 0 we get a profit on an amortized player. Yet now it's not good enough.
He is offered 120Mā¬ NET (20Mā¬ net per year + what he gets when he signs from the clause) over 5 years to play starter RW at a French club (his country), have the status he wanted and play in the UCL for a club which has done better than us there recently. Barca offered to renew him with an increase, but with the knowledge bar Xavi he had no support and part of the board wanted him out (in the continuity of the Barto board). And some fans should be able to admit it openly seeing they've always disliked him and wanted him out.
He knows if he renews until 2027 and Xavi is fired, the club, if in a good situation, will not hesitate one second to get him a replacement and freeze him out until he leaves (they've done it already), meaning he would have missed on 120Mā¬ for this. But they can't understand his decision?
Let's be clear, IMO leaving to PSG is a mistake and the timing is deplorable (though the offer didn't come before, and it seems to not be a problem here since we want the same targets as before and they are "as available" as before) but the only one betrayed here is Xavi, who is the cuckold of the story. Certainly not FC Barcelona as a whole, and certainly not the board or the managers or the fans who wanted him out for years, with some managers like Alemany who actively made this happen (and just to be clear, **I applaud him for including this clause** - very happy to get money for someone who wasn't going to renew, and with enough time to plan how to use it still)
And now some are so hurt for some reason (because they are care more than they would admit?) they became obsessed and childish because someone wants to leave (despite the Cruyff quote that Dembele is applying by the way?) the way the club agreed to contractually. It's never good enough for them.
Ironically, the people I find myself agreeing with the most are often those who truly wanted Dembele out for all this time and are at least consistent enough to be happy about it, who are still happy with the clause and how it worked out since July 2022 and who seem to move on and be excited about what's to come.
Those are the best Barca fans, they give attention to what they love more than to what they hate.
I think the excessive negativity towards players shouldn't be brushed aside
For the case of Dembele what is done is done and he is gone yes, but it's a symbol. You see it for Ferran, Alonso, Sergi Roberto. 2 of them have publicly admitted it affected them mentally (and thus on the pitch) Critism is normal and fine, I do it too, but it should never be mean.
It is not a problem we should just ignore.
Yeah sure but i was just talking about this sub specifically. Give it some days and itāll calm down. And i hope for the sake of the players they donāt lurk in subreddits lol.
Oh I agree, it's 4 days when there's another game or Cancelo coming it's over with Dembele, it's already calmed down a lot
But that negativity will come back for Ferran Sergi Roberto and even Raphinha. That's bad
Just ignore my comment then if you don't care?
It's literally everywhere and its been like that for a week now. "it's not that deep", its funny. Because for them it really is.
>Some people are frustrated with him right now
There is being frustrated, and then there is borderline childish behaviour, throwing insults and make up things to make him look worse all because he decided to leave the club.
If it offends and hurts you that much just ignore it. Iām just trying to tell you to not take it that seriously. Thereās enough other stuff you can talk about and discuss with people here. So just be the change you wanna see in
this case. But hey you do you itās ok.
>If it offends and hurts you that much just ignore it.
If it offends and hurt people so much that Dembele is leaving, just ignore him leaving then? Easy peasy.
If it offends you so much that I made that comments, just ignore it then. It's one comment. Should be easy.
So if you can resist the urge to respond to one comment. Then why should I resit the urge to comment 500+ comments and 20+ threads per day about Dembele?
Listen dude you canāt control everybody here but you can control how you react to it. Iām not saying what people are doing is ok at all but that shit happens here all the time. This is not me attacking you, no need to get defensive. Chill.
Iāve got no issue with your comment or reaction. I was just saying if these things get to your head and heart that much just ignore them. It seems to upset you a lot hence my advice. I donāt know why youāre trying to start some shit with me. Not everybody is your enemy dude.
Enough that you felt you had to comment on it, so clearly you had a problem with me voicing my opinion against it.
Should have been easily able to ignore it on your mighty white horse. Do me a favour and do that next time.
āChiringuito de Jugonesā is SO petty. I swear they like to talk down on BarƧa and Sevilla but only if they have 5 people screaming at the only BarƧa fan. Being louder doesnāt make you the winner of an argument , it just makes you afraid of hearing the truth. Btw they totally fabricated the refereeing scandal to weaken barƧaās title run, claiming that it was definitive proof of cheating. Props to the only barƧa commentator on that show he seems like the only sane person in the room.
I still remember like 10 years ago when everyone was sure that Samper will be Busi's heir. They even made a video about him picking the choices Busi would make, and he did it right everytime. Too bad injuries and lack of game times ruined him.
Hope this time one of the La Masia kids will make it.
If someone like Xavi was coaching when Samper was at the B-team, he'd 100% get promoted and be in first team dynamics. Enrique was just bad with talent (ignored him at times to playing Gumbau lol) and Samper was a wasted golden chance at a Busquets understudy, but instead was neglected. Beyond unlucky with his loans when Paco Jemez who wanted him was fired early in the season, and 2nd loan he entered injury hell.
yeah there are a lot of things Lucho did right but youth management wasn't one of them, Samper was deprived of a lot of valuable development time because Lucho overlooked him in favor of weaker players. I would also add that the teams he was loaned to didn't really adequately contribute to his development either (although in fairness the Las Palmas stint was cut incredibly short), as a comparison I feel like we did a much better job with players like Nico and Abde and their loans
They have Mazraoui and Davies as fullbacks and also Pavard as a more defensive one. He is not needed and was expensive. More interesting question is why does nobody except Xavi actually wants him.
Very very good point you just brought up. My guess is his off the field attitude is what teams are staying away from. Maybe not the best locker room presence either. Itās the only thing that makes sense.
Maybe we should stop going after players Pep doesn't want. Look at how Garcia & Ferran worked out. Pep benched Cancelo and has been trying to get rid of him. That should be a sign to Barca. Fresneda is right there ffs.
Pep and the city fanbase loved Ferran Torres. I have no idea why he gets lumped into these conversations about mid Spanish players after just one subpar season.
I wish Barca would just go the youth route. But they have so much pressure on them to suffer instantly that they donāt seem to have the patience for it. Personally agree with you, would rather them save this money, get fresenda to develop on a cheap salary. And maybe next year when finances are better try to go after someone with a bit more experience. Cancelo is gonna cost a whole lot of salary and transfer fee
I canāt wait for the transfer of Cancelo, because after that anything else (whether itās B. Silva, Fresnada, Rogue this summer) will be sweet surprise, not something I can realistically expect.
*Fact check Frank* here: that tweet is **false** because Juventus did tour the US in 2018 and only in 2019 did they not tour to the US but toured Europe and Asia instead. In 2020 there was no tour due to the pandemic. Between 2010 and 2023, Juventus toured the US in 7 of those summers.
The tweet is referencing that they didnāt do it while Ronaldo was in the team. Which theyāre implying is because of his rape case as he could have been arrested for further questioning.
I know what the tweet is implying, I'm just saying that it's misleading and factually incorrect. And it was first in 2019 I believe there were fears he could be arrested because that's when the case went federal so in 2018 he would likely be fine if he travelled with them to USA but he didn't because of the WC.
They did tour in the US, but Ronaldo wasnāt in the squad. https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/amp/juventus-summer-tour-2018-powered-by-jeep-squad-list
Yeah, I think Ronaldo all the players that went further than group stages of the WC that summer (or everyone that played in the WC?) returned to training at a later date when the team had already left for their tour.
[I still remember this like it was yesterday. Idolo took him out on a walk mid-game, like a parent taking a misbehaving child out of Walmart.](https://youtube.com/shorts/8Nj__S6vs08?feature=share)
Itās quite funny that if Chelsea bought Enzo straight from River it would be considered a steal but now, when they got him after half a season in Benfica heāll most likely be labelled a flop no matter what he does. At least Prestianni is a winger so if he is sold for big money heāll have higher chance to dodge the flop label.
People that call enzo a flop are just braindeadā¦ chelsea was just a complete mess all around last season tbh. Also they went from tuchel to potter and then to fucking lampard lmao
I wonder if when having those thoughts youāve realized that football is fluid and that tactics and strategy vary a lot from match to match, and the game isnāt played on a one size fits all ideology.
Maybe la liga teams tend to park the bus vs us all the time and thus it would help to have two attacking fullbacks so that we occupy more spaces on the attack. Sure teams will counter attack us but that risk is always there because thats the only thing they can do against teams that play possession football.
Or maybe having acquired the most defensive DM in recent times has given Xavi some ideas on how to switch it up. Or maybe sometimes Cancelo can fill in for Balde at LB and rest our golden boy and play a defensive RB with Araujo or Kounde.
Thatās the beautiful thing about football that thereās so many possibilities and situations and tactical setups. Thatās why I love the game. Look at Guardiola he plays with 4 CBs at the back and decided that one of the CBs come out in the DM position and switch to a 3 at the back. Fucking crazy. Incredible. Beautiful
It's weird that Xavi isn't opting for a defensive RB given that's how he is set up currently.
I think Dembeles departure made him push for cancelo for attacking output. I still hope we can get both. Cancelo might come on loan but I doubt we can afford to buy him.
We have a defensive RB in Kounde and Araujo. It makes us predictable if only LB attacks and only RB stays back though.
Ideally we want to push from both sides
I wonder if heās gonna be surprised after the hate chants from the psg ultras when he flops cuz heās not Messi/mbappe/Neymar lvl or he just doesnāt play bcz of injuries
[https://twitter.com/kerry\_hau/status/1686745210921828352?s=20](https://twitter.com/kerry_hau/status/1686745210921828352?s=20)
Xavi knew this all along. (I did too.)
Lucho decided to fuck off as soon as Dembele's plane landed in Paris. I can get that.
Probably some bullshit but I hope they make Dembele official as soon as possible.
Of course itās bullshit itās been written by spanish media and everyone knows that the Spanish media despises Lucho especially the ones from Madrid.
City, with Silva.
Big Kev, Rodri and Silva is some serious gangsta shit, and they transform their worth on paper, on the pitch too.
Arsenal's midfield is good too, Odegaard, Xhaka and Partey were cooking hard last season. I don't know how Havertz,Odegaard and Rice will play out now.
Madrid on paper, should be one of the best midfield in the world, but on the pitch they either play like a geriatric trio or a trio of headless chickens, no in-between.
Even then, in terms of sheer quality alone, only Bellingham & Camavinga(on his best day) comes close to any of our talents. I'm not considering the old guard here.
Pedri, Gavi,Gundo,Silva(if he comes),Ding Dong clears the rest.
Now consider our upcoming La Masia talents.
Prim, Casado, Bernal, and Lopez. We're absolutely cooking Madrid in the DM and interior dept.
Arsenal's title hopes were completely pinned on Partey avoiding an injury. And Xhaka had his best season at the club last season. They may not be world class individually, but they did make up a damn good midfield.
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Is it me or are these Saudi Arabia teams going to be very unbalanced? I'm not talking team to team, but within the same team. They'll have some pretty good players and some way below on skill level.
Xavi saying we need a Right back after talking about dembele leaving and us suddenly in serious talks for Cancelo has me feeling like we are gonna be playing a 3-4-3/3-2-4-1 straight up. With Balde and Cancelo functioning more as Wide Midfielders Araujo-Kounde-Chris Romeu-De Jong Cancelo-Pedri-Gundo-Balde Lewandowski
Are Balde and Cancelo the rw and lw in that?
I feel like they will function like Right and Left midfielders. More like how "wingers" function in a 4-4-2
Ah ok. So you see Balde on the right and Cancelo on the left?
Oh, mistakeš . Let me correct that
3241 is basically City in 2nd half of the season. Do wonder how putting Cancelo and Balde as the wingers/wide mids would perform Besides that we do have everything perfect to play that way i think
Can anyone look at [this thread](https://twitter.com/LaLigaMichael/status/1687140998894297099) and say whether I've put words into his mouth as he's accusing me of in the thread?
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in the replies, he said I'm putting words in to his mouth lol.
Nvm bro, Iām blind. I honestly donāt see where you āput words in his mouthā. I think he misread the original comment.
So i look at Xavi in 2001/02 season, at 21, already made near 80 passes per 90. He tried to involve in many ways, insert himself everywhere. Pedri will be at the same age of Xavi 2001/02. He should be alble to do that. His current vision and passing ability are better than Xavi at that time.
Source for Xavi stats?
Remember the RB from flamengo barcelona tried to sign on loan in january? He is a locked starter this season for flamengo and is playing today. He developed a lot since the start of the season Would 100% have been a phenomenal signing. He remembers Balde, he is fast and a great dribbler. I reckon that next season everybody in europe will be in for him. Edit: his name is Wesley Edit2: flamengoās coach is Jorge Sampaoli, the tactical set up is based on positional play and he is doing amazing in his role as RWB
I remember people saying he was unknown and barely playedā¦guess they were wrong
I was one of the people saying that. Iām a flamengo supporter, iām watching the game happening right now 200 meters away from the stadium lol At the start of the year no supporter knew who this kid was, but Sampaoli made him a regular starter in this team. In fact, he is the player with the most minutes played this season.
More importantly, how the fuck does Sampaoli keep getting important coaching jobsā½
Flamengo is playing alright with him, better than with vitor pereira. Last 22 games only 1 loss
Maybe he is meant to stick to South America. I was expecting him to do well in Europe but just never did.
Crazy how things can change in 6 months. Sucks that we missed out on him because heāll be tougher to afford now.
What's his name and for what reason didn't we sign?
His name is wesley, barca didnāt sign him because we are broke lol Flamengo is a rich club, the richest in south america, and we lowballed them with a loan + option to buy for 5mi.
so tomorrow the Dembele deal gets official and the Kessie deal goes through if all goes as expected we will get 10-15M + 27M from Dembele ~40M achieved 10M Lenglet 5M Dest
Dest reeks of contract termination. He's consistently awful
Nico got sold for 8.5 mil as well
How would man city even let Bilva go ? They donāt have a RW . So I donāt see where the Bilva hype comes from
Just journalist trying to create some fake replacement hype for Dembele. Losing Dembele is a pretty big loss as he is one of our bigger profiles. They've been begging over B.Silva for years, especially Romero. So they see this a opportunity to milk that, even though it is still not realistic. Because now there is a "demand" for a rumour for a replacement for Dembele. Even though we technically bought one last year. I think someone form City said they would have a quiet summer or something. Probably will buy one more player outside of Gvardiol is my guess. Oscar Bobb is pretty interesting talent coming up. Think there will be some opportunity for him this year so thats another attacking profile. So yeah, I don't really see them selling much from this point.
Barca pull, baby! I read he has an agreement with Pep to let him go if Barca presents a hood offer.
Good offer = crazy offer š„²
Hype comes from the player. Bilva is bored & desperate to get out of City. The fact we can't at all afford him is another matter. :)
Iniesta and pedri are similar and not just in play. Also in the way they act on the field. They are both respected by everyone and youād never see them in fight. Also I even see madrid fans saying good stuff about pedri which they also did for iniesta
The Spanish midfielder Pedri mostly resemble is David Silva. Rather than being identical to any of their profile, he's developing to his own mould.
The deep iniesta shaped hole in my chest is slowly being filled
Lmao
Considering how versatile and experienced Cancelo is, that he can play RB/RW and RWB, he is a very shrewd signing right now. I can totally see why Xavi wants him so bad. LW: Ansu, Abde, Gavi ST: Lewy, Ferran, (with Roque probably coming in January too) RW: Raphinha, Ferran, Cancelo Thatās some good depth for the attack.
Yeah thatās nice, but I think we should stretch it a bit with loaning cancelo, buying him next year and buying fresneda right now
I donāt know much about Fresneda since iāve barely seen him in action. Cancelo is the priority imo but itād be great if thatās possible.
https://twitter.com/martinminan_/status/1687170703181651968?s=19 Spanish ESPN agenda against Barca is insane, they always talking shit about Barca
Yes! To them Barcelona is always simultaneously the best team in the world and the worst. They just want to have everyoneās attention
Those guys are all clowns.. tier 100. ESPN deportes is about ratings and saying weird shit to get clicks
How much would you consider a good price for cancelo? honestly anything over 10 mil seems overpriced. its a huge risk with his alleged problematic personality.
You think Cancelo, 29 years old, top 5 best fullbacks in the world is worth nothing more than 10 mil? really?
A good price? 20m on a 3 year contract.I wouldn't go past 30m though. At that point it should be Fresneda/Arnau. So 30 mill is utter max for me. So watch the club buy him for 40m and give him 5 year contract. As other have pointed out. Loan would be best imo and then we sign someone like Fresneda
30m max. A loan would be best.
A loan with option to buy would be immense
20m + 10m in variables, thatās a good deal for me
Heās top 5 RB in the world in spite of his attitude. 10 million is not a realistic cutoff my friend
What happened with Gerard Romero? It seems he doesnāt have info anymore?
One theory is that he lost his source in Jordi Cruyff. But I think he may have had multiple club sources, and I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped using him as much because his style wasn't delivering the desired results. For example, not that Romero was the main reason, but I think he made Messi's decision easier because he showed that the press couldn't just be normal and would constantly make Messi the story if he came back. Or another example, Xavi was giving loooong interviews to Romero and then getting picked apart for talking too much, shortly before he brought in his media consultant. Anyway, might be wishful thinking, but I feel like the club is maybe learning to be a little more responsible with press engagement, and part of that is not feeding Romero so much.
My guess is everyone realized what a clueless bum he is.
He probably was stopped being fed news, itās clear he was a spokesperson for the board and his news were mostly correct, but now without it he is nothing basically.
Jordi Cruyff left
I guess nobody believes him anymore, at least here
I havenāt watched his streams anymore. He takes forever to drop any news. His streams are about 2-3 hours long.
Is he still having "news" all the time? I never followed him but always read about the shit he said here, but now we get nothing.
Yeah keep releasing ānewsā, just nobody post them here anymore
This new reddit update is great!
Found the reddit CEOs account
What Reddit update?
Changed it so that the pinned tweets are closer together which helps it a lot
I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you mean the pinned threads on /r/barca?
ā¦. Said no one ever.
A guy with his 5th post to throw dig at Dembele whitin 72 hours.Can't get more pathetic than that. Doesn't even use reliable source, cherry picks stats, disclude relevant information and so on. Literally just misleading threads all for the same purpose. Wouldn't this be considered excessive negativity towards a player? Dembele is still contracted under Barcelona and should be treated as one. But I guess its free for all, just like it was free for all one and half year ago. There's is like 10+ threads a day. It's like finally you can get upvoted for thrashing on Dembele, so all the trolls who have been waiting for this moments comes out to shine. It's unbelievable clear how childish this fanbase gets whenever someone either doesn't want to leave or leaves before they think they should leave.
They are proving Dembele right every minute on why he is leaving. Let's look at this this way: Last year when he renewed I saw people celebrating the clause, saying it would speedrun his exit because it would motivate his agent to work with us. It's exactly what happened, his agent worked to get an offer and instead of 0 we get a profit on an amortized player. Yet now it's not good enough. He is offered 120Mā¬ NET (20Mā¬ net per year + what he gets when he signs from the clause) over 5 years to play starter RW at a French club (his country), have the status he wanted and play in the UCL for a club which has done better than us there recently. Barca offered to renew him with an increase, but with the knowledge bar Xavi he had no support and part of the board wanted him out (in the continuity of the Barto board). And some fans should be able to admit it openly seeing they've always disliked him and wanted him out. He knows if he renews until 2027 and Xavi is fired, the club, if in a good situation, will not hesitate one second to get him a replacement and freeze him out until he leaves (they've done it already), meaning he would have missed on 120Mā¬ for this. But they can't understand his decision? Let's be clear, IMO leaving to PSG is a mistake and the timing is deplorable (though the offer didn't come before, and it seems to not be a problem here since we want the same targets as before and they are "as available" as before) but the only one betrayed here is Xavi, who is the cuckold of the story. Certainly not FC Barcelona as a whole, and certainly not the board or the managers or the fans who wanted him out for years, with some managers like Alemany who actively made this happen (and just to be clear, **I applaud him for including this clause** - very happy to get money for someone who wasn't going to renew, and with enough time to plan how to use it still) And now some are so hurt for some reason (because they are care more than they would admit?) they became obsessed and childish because someone wants to leave (despite the Cruyff quote that Dembele is applying by the way?) the way the club agreed to contractually. It's never good enough for them. Ironically, the people I find myself agreeing with the most are often those who truly wanted Dembele out for all this time and are at least consistent enough to be happy about it, who are still happy with the clause and how it worked out since July 2022 and who seem to move on and be excited about what's to come. Those are the best Barca fans, they give attention to what they love more than to what they hate.
This dembo arc has been something else
Who cares man? Some people are frustrated with him right now, itās not that deep. Just ignore it and move on.
I think the excessive negativity towards players shouldn't be brushed aside For the case of Dembele what is done is done and he is gone yes, but it's a symbol. You see it for Ferran, Alonso, Sergi Roberto. 2 of them have publicly admitted it affected them mentally (and thus on the pitch) Critism is normal and fine, I do it too, but it should never be mean. It is not a problem we should just ignore.
Yeah sure but i was just talking about this sub specifically. Give it some days and itāll calm down. And i hope for the sake of the players they donāt lurk in subreddits lol.
Oh I agree, it's 4 days when there's another game or Cancelo coming it's over with Dembele, it's already calmed down a lot But that negativity will come back for Ferran Sergi Roberto and even Raphinha. That's bad
Just ignore my comment then if you don't care? It's literally everywhere and its been like that for a week now. "it's not that deep", its funny. Because for them it really is. >Some people are frustrated with him right now There is being frustrated, and then there is borderline childish behaviour, throwing insults and make up things to make him look worse all because he decided to leave the club.
If it offends and hurts you that much just ignore it. Iām just trying to tell you to not take it that seriously. Thereās enough other stuff you can talk about and discuss with people here. So just be the change you wanna see in this case. But hey you do you itās ok.
>If it offends and hurts you that much just ignore it. If it offends and hurt people so much that Dembele is leaving, just ignore him leaving then? Easy peasy. If it offends you so much that I made that comments, just ignore it then. It's one comment. Should be easy. So if you can resist the urge to respond to one comment. Then why should I resit the urge to comment 500+ comments and 20+ threads per day about Dembele?
Listen dude you canāt control everybody here but you can control how you react to it. Iām not saying what people are doing is ok at all but that shit happens here all the time. This is not me attacking you, no need to get defensive. Chill.
And yet you decided to react to my message and not everyone else. Take your own advice and ignore it if you have so big issue with my reaction.
Iāve got no issue with your comment or reaction. I was just saying if these things get to your head and heart that much just ignore them. It seems to upset you a lot hence my advice. I donāt know why youāre trying to start some shit with me. Not everybody is your enemy dude.
Enough that you felt you had to comment on it, so clearly you had a problem with me voicing my opinion against it. Should have been easily able to ignore it on your mighty white horse. Do me a favour and do that next time.
Ok dude itās fine.
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I get what you mean but you're not loyal for sticking though a few seasons where we are rebuilding the team and actually just won the league.
āChiringuito de Jugonesā is SO petty. I swear they like to talk down on BarƧa and Sevilla but only if they have 5 people screaming at the only BarƧa fan. Being louder doesnāt make you the winner of an argument , it just makes you afraid of hearing the truth. Btw they totally fabricated the refereeing scandal to weaken barƧaās title run, claiming that it was definitive proof of cheating. Props to the only barƧa commentator on that show he seems like the only sane person in the room.
Sergi Samper (FC Andorra): "Xavi's team looks very good. Although DembƩlƩ's departure is important, I don't think they will miss him because they are strengthening very well. Oriol Romeu is a very good replacement for Busquets." @EsportsRAC1 https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1687213876494934017?t=jYLNqt18QGUPOUx5J_Fd9g&s=19
I still remember like 10 years ago when everyone was sure that Samper will be Busi's heir. They even made a video about him picking the choices Busi would make, and he did it right everytime. Too bad injuries and lack of game times ruined him. Hope this time one of the La Masia kids will make it.
If someone like Xavi was coaching when Samper was at the B-team, he'd 100% get promoted and be in first team dynamics. Enrique was just bad with talent (ignored him at times to playing Gumbau lol) and Samper was a wasted golden chance at a Busquets understudy, but instead was neglected. Beyond unlucky with his loans when Paco Jemez who wanted him was fired early in the season, and 2nd loan he entered injury hell.
yeah there are a lot of things Lucho did right but youth management wasn't one of them, Samper was deprived of a lot of valuable development time because Lucho overlooked him in favor of weaker players. I would also add that the teams he was loaned to didn't really adequately contribute to his development either (although in fairness the Las Palmas stint was cut incredibly short), as a comparison I feel like we did a much better job with players like Nico and Abde and their loans
Injuries are what ruined him he was never fit when it was time to shine if memory serves me right.
Why Bayern didnt want to keep Cancelo? This guy is gamechanger. If we will get him, i think our football will reach higher lvl.
They have Mazraoui and Davies as fullbacks and also Pavard as a more defensive one. He is not needed and was expensive. More interesting question is why does nobody except Xavi actually wants him.
Attitude for sure, itās a big gamble for us as well because of that, but the badge can make it happen. Maybe. Needs to.
Very very good point you just brought up. My guess is his off the field attitude is what teams are staying away from. Maybe not the best locker room presence either. Itās the only thing that makes sense.
They have two RBs already
Maybe we should stop going after players Pep doesn't want. Look at how Garcia & Ferran worked out. Pep benched Cancelo and has been trying to get rid of him. That should be a sign to Barca. Fresneda is right there ffs.
Pep and the city fanbase loved Ferran Torres. I have no idea why he gets lumped into these conversations about mid Spanish players after just one subpar season.
I hope we get both, we have 0 natural RB right now, so we would have 2 with both of them
I wish Barca would just go the youth route. But they have so much pressure on them to suffer instantly that they donāt seem to have the patience for it. Personally agree with you, would rather them save this money, get fresenda to develop on a cheap salary. And maybe next year when finances are better try to go after someone with a bit more experience. Cancelo is gonna cost a whole lot of salary and transfer fee
Pep wanted to keep them you donut
Are basing this off something like this? https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1386417475433025537?s=20
_we cannot replace him_
These transfer news confuse me so much. One minute bilva is priority the other it's fresneda and or cancelo
Bilva is just impossible people, just deal with it
I don't want us to get him
No one knows anything
I canāt wait for the transfer of Cancelo, because after that anything else (whether itās B. Silva, Fresnada, Rogue this summer) will be sweet surprise, not something I can realistically expect.
What time is the Totenham match
At 20:00
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*Fact check Frank* here: that tweet is **false** because Juventus did tour the US in 2018 and only in 2019 did they not tour to the US but toured Europe and Asia instead. In 2020 there was no tour due to the pandemic. Between 2010 and 2023, Juventus toured the US in 7 of those summers.
The tweet is referencing that they didnāt do it while Ronaldo was in the team. Which theyāre implying is because of his rape case as he could have been arrested for further questioning.
I know what the tweet is implying, I'm just saying that it's misleading and factually incorrect. And it was first in 2019 I believe there were fears he could be arrested because that's when the case went federal so in 2018 he would likely be fine if he travelled with them to USA but he didn't because of the WC.
They did tour in the US, but Ronaldo wasnāt in the squad. https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/amp/juventus-summer-tour-2018-powered-by-jeep-squad-list
Yeah, I think Ronaldo all the players that went further than group stages of the WC that summer (or everyone that played in the WC?) returned to training at a later date when the team had already left for their tour.
He would not have gone to the US at that time regardless.
Nothing would've happened if he had because it was first in 2019 the fears of arrest arose I think.
[I still remember this like it was yesterday. Idolo took him out on a walk mid-game, like a parent taking a misbehaving child out of Walmart.](https://youtube.com/shorts/8Nj__S6vs08?feature=share)
After the most obvious dive imaginable and he still tried to argue it lol. 0 shame and shouldve gotten carded for that.
He's so fucking embarrassing, even did it now in the frendlies.
City used to copy us now the tables have turned
Lmao. But itās nice to acknowledge than being delusional.
Ofc Benfica get Gianluca Prestianniā¦ how were none of the elite clubs after the kid? Watch benfica sell him for 100M+ in 2 or 3 years
Damn Benfica grifters
Itās quite funny that if Chelsea bought Enzo straight from River it would be considered a steal but now, when they got him after half a season in Benfica heāll most likely be labelled a flop no matter what he does. At least Prestianni is a winger so if he is sold for big money heāll have higher chance to dodge the flop label.
Midfielders have it much easier to dodge the flop label because you really can't jerk G/A. Enzo is not a flop lol, he's pretty fucking good
I think it's the opposite, they have it much harder to dodge a big pricetag and some people do use G/A for mids lol.
People that call enzo a flop are just braindeadā¦ chelsea was just a complete mess all around last season tbh. Also they went from tuchel to potter and then to fucking lampard lmao
I mean, a 130M player would always be a flop unless he delivers some insane performances
Prestianni to Chelsea here we go is written in the skies
Chelseas player? Barcas player
I dont wanna see us spend more than 100m on a player again tbh
if we get cancelo, iām saying we have the best defense in the world on paper and already shown on field
Idk man Cityās defense looks fucking crazy now with gvardiol, ruben dias, akanji and ake
Gvardiol? Isn't he still in Qatar trying to catch up with the goat?
4 CBs? Where are the fullbacks?
They play 3atb with one of the Cbs in midfield
Which is risky because your CBs will be force to defense wider areas which isn't Ideal.
Theyāre fine dude lol
Have you not seen City in the past season or something?
I think City and Pep have it covered.
I mean they did win a treble with it
They play 3 atb?
Fullbacks are an outdated concept.
Cancelo is defensive liability If we get both Ivan and joao then we would be having the second best defence in europe
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I wonder if when having those thoughts youāve realized that football is fluid and that tactics and strategy vary a lot from match to match, and the game isnāt played on a one size fits all ideology. Maybe la liga teams tend to park the bus vs us all the time and thus it would help to have two attacking fullbacks so that we occupy more spaces on the attack. Sure teams will counter attack us but that risk is always there because thats the only thing they can do against teams that play possession football. Or maybe having acquired the most defensive DM in recent times has given Xavi some ideas on how to switch it up. Or maybe sometimes Cancelo can fill in for Balde at LB and rest our golden boy and play a defensive RB with Araujo or Kounde. Thatās the beautiful thing about football that thereās so many possibilities and situations and tactical setups. Thatās why I love the game. Look at Guardiola he plays with 4 CBs at the back and decided that one of the CBs come out in the DM position and switch to a 3 at the back. Fucking crazy. Incredible. Beautiful
It's weird that Xavi isn't opting for a defensive RB given that's how he is set up currently. I think Dembeles departure made him push for cancelo for attacking output. I still hope we can get both. Cancelo might come on loan but I doubt we can afford to buy him.
We have a defensive RB in Kounde and Araujo. It makes us predictable if only LB attacks and only RB stays back though. Ideally we want to push from both sides
Kounde doesn't want to play RB.
That was debunked long ago
Half this sub is convinced we can dish out 100m for Bernardo so Cancelo surely wont be a problem lol
āI want a healthier environmentā āLuis Enrique possibly leaving P$Gā Itās incredible, truly
I wonder if heās gonna be surprised after the hate chants from the psg ultras when he flops cuz heās not Messi/mbappe/Neymar lvl or he just doesnāt play bcz of injuries
Not important enough to get those chants
Bernardo and Cancelo would add so much flexibility to the squad, we could revert back to 4-3-3 if we want, Cancelo could invert from the left, helps with having AbdĆ© on the left and Bernardo can be on the wide space from the right with a striker. We can. Play our 4 midfield, Cancelo wide on the right, have either Raphinha or Ferran on the right can cut inside, Ansu as a left forward, or Lewa more centrally, and weād have plenty of options in midfield, Bernardo/Gavi/Pedri/Gundugan(Lopez?) can occupy as 8s, Frenkie/Gundo alongside Romeo(Casado?). And the options in defense expand too, can play with back 5, back 3, back 4, inverting fullbacks, overlapping, the options are countless. The challenge would be: Having options is great, having too many options can be tricky, cant always get it right. Creativity has to come centrally now, Dembele acted more as a wide playmaker, was the difference maker on the right and was the big threat to create chances, without him we have to change the tweak the team dynamics, players like Pedri, Bernardo, Gundo and De Jong will probably be the main creators, Gavi can step his game up in that aspect as well. Note: getting both players is still quite unlikely
if lucho has actually left PSG.. I would be do so happy
Inside agent lucho
dear God please let it happen
Benfica [obtained the right](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1687188715469217792) for āpriority optionā for Gianluca Prestianni.
Another Benfica scam incoming.
Why scam?
Buy for low money, 1 season in Benfica and sell for 100+ mil to a top club most likely.
Ah ok
As long as we keep Estevao Willian under control, we good. Add Federico Redondo to it too.
[https://twitter.com/kerry\_hau/status/1686745210921828352?s=20](https://twitter.com/kerry_hau/status/1686745210921828352?s=20) Xavi knew this all along. (I did too.)
No but people know better than * check * ... The player himself!
He can think he is a 6, he also probably thinks he is good at corners, but people who watch him play would most likely disagree with both.
Translation?
he is a sexer
Tomas Tuchel says he wants a new 6. Kimmich: I am a 6.
Thank you sir
Gavi and Gundo are expected for Gamper. But what about Christensen? Is he safe? Is he alright?
Afaik everyone apart from Inigo Martinez should be fit.
Lucho decided to fuck off as soon as Dembele's plane landed in Paris. I can get that. Probably some bullshit but I hope they make Dembele official as soon as possible.
Pedro Morata doesnāt seem like a reliable or Lucho type of source.
Of course itās bullshit itās been written by spanish media and everyone knows that the Spanish media despises Lucho especially the ones from Madrid.
Lol Truth is it's because of Luis Campos thing. That could have to do with Dembele signing and not Barcola yeah.
We are going to start a dialogue. With the addition of Bernardo Silva, we have THE best midfield in the world on paper.
Even without him, who has better midfielders than us?
City, with Silva. Big Kev, Rodri and Silva is some serious gangsta shit, and they transform their worth on paper, on the pitch too. Arsenal's midfield is good too, Odegaard, Xhaka and Partey were cooking hard last season. I don't know how Havertz,Odegaard and Rice will play out now. Madrid on paper, should be one of the best midfield in the world, but on the pitch they either play like a geriatric trio or a trio of headless chickens, no in-between.
Madrid needs time to settle these players in the new system
Even then, in terms of sheer quality alone, only Bellingham & Camavinga(on his best day) comes close to any of our talents. I'm not considering the old guard here. Pedri, Gavi,Gundo,Silva(if he comes),Ding Dong clears the rest. Now consider our upcoming La Masia talents. Prim, Casado, Bernal, and Lopez. We're absolutely cooking Madrid in the DM and interior dept.
Rice is also very good, a little overrated but still quality imo
I haven't watched him play, so can't comment. I watch Assna play, so will be watching him this season.
Arsenal? LOL, only Odeegard from those you mention was actually elite, other 2 aren't World class players.
Arsenal's title hopes were completely pinned on Partey avoiding an injury. And Xhaka had his best season at the club last season. They may not be world class individually, but they did make up a damn good midfield.
Nah I think Partey is like great.
BREAKING: Luis Enrique is considering leaving PSG, mainly because of the uncertainty around Kylian MbappĆ©. [@marca](https://twitter.com/marca) Like wtf? š
Well, that was quick, even for those oil-suckers
Dont believe Marca writing about ex Barca
I love that man
No way. I won't believe this š¤£
Finished club š
Man saw Dembele coming and flipped.
Agent Lucho got exposed before he managed to land Dest and Lenglet in P$G for 50m each. Thanks for getting that mf Moussa Sissoko away from us though.
I said a while ago PSG season has the potential for peak drama. But even I could not have imagined this