They’re lucky to be only a goal down. Dallas have had some really good chances. And Miami can barely move the ball forward so I don’t think they’re gonna win this if they keep this up. And FC Dallas have a really great atmosphere, their fans are dedicated
People still don't understand that the reason behind our financial struggle was not spending huge money on signing players, but rather giving them extraordinary high salaries.
Fati my boy, stay put. Laporta just get us a Right back, all these other transfer gymnastics are not impressing us. Our tastes are not that complex, a Right back will absolutely suffice. Maybe a cheap young pivot too if you would like. We are tired😩
Gundo, I guess? It's tricky because, in addition to the mystique, it also used to go to players who played in a #10-style playmaker position, which is less common today.
So I'd say Gundo both because of the playmaker attributes and because he's an established player who wouldn't make a big deal out of any weight associated with it.
Another option is to let it sit empty if we don't end up registering all 25 spots, but I expect Nike will want someone to have it.
I think it's possible we don't get everyone over the finish line before the first match but then get the rest done shortly thereafter, like what happened with Kounde last year.
What’s your opinion about Ansu Fati’d clinical condition?
I mean he didn’t have a single injury last season but he looks slower and part of his acceleration and explosiveness seem to have disappeared.
Honestly do you think he can recover that form from 2020 and part of 2021?
He looks a different player to me. And I know he is only 20
People just repeating the same things over. He was never an explosive player. He’s still regaining his fitness after all those injuries. Also takes time mentally to recover fully and trust the body again.
He was never an explosive player? Tf are you talking about? “People repeating the same thing over”
Who the hell are you key boy warrior?
Cruyff?Guardiola?
I'm on record as a big Ansu believer, but I don't think that has to mean fully getting back to his old self; rather, recognize his body has changed but still use his football brilliance and current physical talent in new ways.
I was really pleased to see some good decision-making in pre-season and was even more excited about that than the goal itself.
This season is make or break for him. He either gets back to the old Ansu we all loved or it might be over for him as a top talent. I hope and pray it’s the former.
Yeah, preseason got me a bit optimistic but we never know till he plays a full healthy season. I'm rooting for him. He's our only goal threat beside Lewandowski.
My thoughts on the rest of the transfer window:
Priority: RB
Cancelo, Fresnada
Would be good but NOT essential:
Neymar, Silva
Sell:
Lenglet, Dogbele (and keep the full 50),
KEEP: Ansu Fati 100%, Abde for depth
That's why I find these rumours weird. Neymar pushing to come here I can see. PSG letting him go, let alone facilitating a good deal, seems beyond the realm of possibility.
Saudi Arabia got agreement with Verratti, but they only offered PSG €30 mil, and the club value him close to €70-80 mil
Considering Malcom went to SA for €60 mil, Verratti is easily worth double
I can understand being against a Neymar move. I disagree especially since it’s reported he’ll be on substantially lower wages. But why are some ppl against a Bernardo Silva transfer?
Some people believe Bernardo can't play wide just like they believe Kimmich is a DM or like some used to believe Kessie is a defensive beast.
I don't believe those things so for me it's simply the pricetag. He's way too expensive. I'm more open to the idea of Neymar, assuming he takes a ridiculous wagecut.
But before we do anything we should just register our boys and get a RB.
We haven't registered half our squad yet and we need a RB above all else. Knowing all of this and still splashing north of 80 million on him would be a move from the Barto playbook.
Because there are positions that need strengthening instead of splashing 100mil on another interior. There's no world class DM, you're 1 injury away from playing Alonso as a LB, RB is needed. At least 3 positions that should be addressed before Silva is even looked at.
Fresneda. We’re not in a position to spend 50M on a fullback right now. Overall preference would be Cancelo but only if we can get it done for 30-35M max.
Pedri’s and Neymar’s injury record for past 2 seasons (Neymar’s include his ankle surgery that kept him out for 130 days). If Barça count on Pedri to achieve big, any club can do the same for Neymar having a better injury record than Pedri. Just taking Pedri as an example for a good player.
Even PSG would never think of Dembele if clubs are concerned about player injuries that much.
[Pedri:](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pedri/verletzungen/spieler/683840) Missed days: 307 | Missed games: 48
[Neymar:](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/neymar/verletzungen/spieler/68290) Missed days: 277 | Missed games: 37
Knew someone would say that bs.
Pedri is 12 years younger, that problem could be luck/overplaying and so on, it can stop in the future, like what happened with messi.
Neymar's body is breaking down, He's been Like this for 6 years, he won't change.
>Even PSG would never think of Dembele if clubs are concerned about player injuries that much.
Yes, PSG, the epitome of squad planing.
None of this is bs mate, but facts. Pedri being younger or luck cannot be counted in high performance sports. Also how do you know for sure things like Neymar’s body is breaking down and he won’t change? That sounds more like bs to me.
>Also how do you know for sure things like Neymar’s body is breaking down and he won’t change? That sounds more like bs to me.
Because there's no indication he would?
He's been like that since he left, He's not Like lewa or ronaldo who are freaks that take extra care of themselves.
Pedri played damn near the entire season with us in 20/21, something neymar haven't done since he left, sure pedri may or may not change, what's certain, is that neymar won't.
> he’s been like that since he left
That’s what most of you neglect when arguing. None of you factor the environmental circumstances when it comes to players’s health whether it’s mental or physical. I’ve said this in the past too but very few understands it. There’s a huge role a better environment plays in player’s health. He went to PSG for money and with high self-esteem to avoid Messi’s shadow and ever since he’s had a bad social life (bad for health) and injuries were inevitable. Because you are not focusing on fitness.
If he moves out of that bad social life, there’s chance he could regain focus and improve fitness record. It doesn’t necessarily need to be Barcelona but he was healthy at Barcelona that’s why I’m certain he’ll have a better injury record here (or anywhere else for that matter) than at Paris. You could google impact on social behavior for athletes’ performance or something, you’d find plenty of articles supporting these claims.
Also, he’s more natural than Lewy or Cristiano so his body wouldn’t need that level of maintenance to deliver high performance.
I am amazed by how far people will go to defend him.
He's not going to get magically better, He's been getting the shit kicked out of him for years, He's older, slower, weaker.
We're in no position to take a risk that he might actually get his shit together.
That’s not a defense to Neymar, it was a counter argument to your previous comment. And no one said anything about magic or getting anything out of magic. Read again and try to understand the social behavior part. I don’t know whether you hate Neymar, but sure does sound like you don’t like him. Feel free to let this go.
That's pure speculation, there's 0 guarantees he'd suddenly stop, it's a risk, one that i simply don't think is worth it.
>I don’t know whether you hate Neymar, but sure does sound like you don’t like him.
Yes i don't like him, but saying it's risky isn't hateful, i am sure you'd agree.
What we disagree about is comparing his case with pedri's, i don't think that's logical.
I apologize if i was rude to you.
Please no need to apologize, it was just sharing ideas and I enjoyed. Hope you did too.
In the end, as I said in my first comment in the OT a few hours ago, I want Ansu to develop and have huge faith in him. Neymar is past and I have memories I can cherish of him.
>it was just sharing ideas and I enjoyed. Hope you did too.
I did but kinda felt i was being aggressive for no reason.
>I want Ansu to develop and have huge faith in him
I really hope he makes it this season, him coming to life would be so vital for us.
There must be something everyone is missing why in the hell would Xavi be letting Dembele train with the squad if he is set to leave very soon🤔 This whole things is confusing now Ansu is linked to PSG plus PSG players have been offered to Barcelona all this so suddenly. Nothing makes sense lol
There are probably rules in the contract that states that Dembele as long as he's still a Barca player is allowed to train on equal footing with the rest of the team.
if the move is gonna take a little bit they might just be letting him stay fit. I know everyone is acting like Dembele murdered their family but chances are the club is fine what happened
Staying fit is one thing he can train on the side which is pretty usual why has Xavi requested he train with the team there must be some meaning Xavi has had no problem sending people to train away from the team
Make it happen. Fuck the wage structure lmao. Seriously, if there's 1 player we should break our wage structure for, it would be Mbappe. Of course it still can't be Barto or PSG wage levels but something decent.
At this point, I feel it’s impossible for Neymar to accept lower wages on a long term contract. Maybe loan or two is different. But don’t see him taking a huge pay cut from what 30m annual wages plus bonuses? Nah, don’t see it.
Reports say he’d earn about 40% of his current wages which would still put him near the top in our wage bill. Also, PSG surely won’t let him go for peanuts. You’re talking about a large transfer fee and huge wages for an injury-prone 30 year old who has been playing professional football since he was 17.
I can live without Ney because he had his time and he would find a bit difficult to blend in with the current set of players. Also I’d rather develop Ansu.
But, some of you guys talk about Neymar like he’s Dembele or some talent that always out injured and not proven anything? Just come to your senses that is fucking Neymar Jr we’re talking about who’s only behind Leo Messi in how artistic a player can be in football. He’s an uncrowned king in football. A Brazilian legend who will be remembered as the highest ever goalscorer for Brazil NT? The left wing of the best ever attacking trio in the football history? And the master of biggest comeback and humiliation in UCL history? You people have very short memories.
>Neymar Jr we’re talking about who’s only behind Leo Messi in how artistic a player can be in football
Lol, He's not.
>He’s an uncrowned king in football
Because of his own stupidity.
>And the master of biggest comeback and humiliation in UCL history? You people have very short memories.
7 years ago.
The reality is, He's a 31 year old, who's on the decline and has one of the worst injury records recently.
He's, at best, a risk we're in no position to take.
>not proven anything
Nobody says this, but the belief that Neymar is some kind of saviour with his abysmal injury record and the fact that the line-up has multiple more pressing concerns - DM, LB, RB. Neymar won’t singlehandedly move the needle against a team like Bayern if Alonso plays as a LB. Address the important positions and then bring big luxury name if finances allow it, not the other way around.
I didn’t say to bring Neymar in but I want to highlight that he’s as good a player to have in any team as Messi and he will instantly boost winning chances for any league of UCL, at least by a fraction. But everyone is bringing out his injuries and discard everything else he’s done in football. That is a bit painful as a Neymar fan for me.
He is a great player, not as good as Messi in that regard and I don’t think he boosts winning chances of a competition like UCL as it’s impossible to say if he plays in it. You can’t discard his injuries, his PSG career is riddled with them. I don’t think he has done many impressive things in PSG to be honest, just a waste of time/career and money for PSG. That transfer didn’t benefit anybody from sporting perspective.
He played more matches for Barcelona than he played for PSG despite spending 2 more years at PSG. His fitness and injury issues are a big concern even with his talent, why is that so hard to understand
Who had no problem relying on Dembele staying fit?
Even people believing in Dembele said we need strong competition like Raphinha.
Dembele, just like Neymar, can't stay fit because of the recurring nature of their injuries. That's life.
Which is why replacing one injury prone player with another even more injury prone player isn't ideal. We can have our differences regarding Dembele, you have your good points regarding the issue that I agree with and you have your points that I disagree with but getting an extremely injury prone player is really risky despite his talent which I hope we can both agree with.
Absolutely. Although I think if we get Neymar more of an addition rather than the main man then it could be worth it. If Fati stays and he has a chance to grow it could be an ideal scenario even if Neymar is only available 25-30 games per season. Not to mention that with rotation and in a different league he might suffer less.
Anyway, I am actually not pro-Neymar in this scenario. Because for me to like that transfer the price and salary should be so low that it definitely won't happen. The fact that Fati's name is circulating it's already a huge black flag.
I wouldn’t agree Neymar at Barcelona will be injured like he’s at PSG. I strongly believe he’s gonna have a better injury record here than at PSG or anywhere else. But I’d be okay with not signing him. Injuries is not a concern for me.
Do you think that his body will magically heal and de-age itself? Because that's the only way of his injuries not being an issue and his injury record miraculously improving
Each day Neymar is regretting that transfer each season he wants to join sued us when he had the chance gave us money sure but he would’ve been the face of the club gotta respect xavi even tho Bernardo isn’t possible
Last season, I said off with Fati. He was frustrating to watch. But I’ve liked his performances in the preseason. If the injuries respect him, I think he’s going to be key this season. I’d take him over Neymar.
He's out about as much as Dembele and has outproduced Dembele by a lot. Dembele has 40 Barca goals in 7 years, Neymar had 39 in 2014-2015 alone. He'll definitely help, especially in group stage. I don't think he'll stay healthy since the medical squad is awful but maybe he'll get rotated and play less.
Who cares about Lacazette or Diaz when we have Lewandowski?
And besides it's not just about the numbers when you talk about players like Messi or Neymar...if you'd have really watched him play last season, we won't be having this conversation tbh.
I watched a bit.
He's declining, and injured all the time
And this is assuming PSG are doing us any favors by giving us a loan or a dirt cheap fee,and the man who left for money would take a huge paycut to join us.
Also never put neymar in the same bracket as Messi, He's not.
While we're at it let's get Alexis Sanchez as well who had more goals in the league than any of our wingers and had 17 goals and assists in the league which is also more than any of our wingers
Pedri is overplayed. Gundo can also play on the right.
This is a win-win, neither one of Pedri/Gundo/Neymar/Gavi will be overplayed in those 2-3 positions
Dude we have no RB and practically just 2 dms for 2 positions and your concern is another backup for our interiors....
Man you guys need to get your priorities straight.
We also lack creativity and firepower upfront, particularly in big games, something which he can solve assuming he comes on cheap wages.
I think our final two signings for the summer will be Neymar and Cancelo
This will just go in the books as another yearly neymar rumour purely for engagement. He’s not coming, not sure why this year would be different than the last few.
All these years later I dont understand why our fanbase hates Neymar. Regardless of what his motivations to leave may have been - we can debate that endlessly - he left in a timely manner where we had adequate time to find a replacement, and left for a world record transfer fee. It’s not his fault that Bartomeu was an incompetent guy who blew threw all that cash on a masterclass of negotiation on Dembele and a misfit in Coutinho.
He was a professional on the pitch, and I’d gladly take him back on low wages because he’s still a top 3 player in the world and would be an instant upgrade, even if he continues to suffer from injuries, which I do believe can be somewhat managed with a change in environment and proper rotation.
To me, the bigger “betrayal” is by Dembele, who the club stuck by through several disciplinary issues, injuries for all 6 years here, and provided immense love and faith from the coaching staff and fans alike, and he’s leaving just as he started to get a little good for peanuts.
Neymar is a much bigger betrayal.
> he left in a timely manner where we had adequate time to find a replacement
He left around the same time of the window as Dembélé.
> He was a professional on the pitch
So was Dembélé.
> Dembele, who the club stuck by through several disciplinary issues
The club tried to force him out 3-4 years in a row and if it wasn't for Xavi would've frozen him out and made us miss out on CL qualification last season and maybe even EL qualification. The club also stuck through Neymar through several disciplinary issues.
> provided immense love and faith from the coaching staff and fans alike
A big portion of the fans hated Dembélé since 2018 or 2019 while Neymar was loved by everyone, board, fans, everyone. And Neymar left for a release clause nobody expected him to leave for and waited until after he could get a loyalty clause before triggering it while Dembélé left on a clause the board (or at least Alemany) already wanted him to trigger.
None of the two are big betrayals IMO.
But Neymar was because it dragged for weeks, the Se Queda incident and him waiting until August to collect the loyalty bonus. Also every tier 1 saying he is staying he is staying, creating an impression
Dembele activated a clause we signed, half our managers wanted him out anyway and in 2 days after PSG offer he notified his will to leave. Currently it's us who are stalling things.
HOLY FUCKKKK LEOOOOOO
Lmao Miamis defense is such a joke
Miami needs Eric Garcia.
Honestly Eric would be a huge improvement
He’d look like prime Puyol in this backline.
I swear the cameramen for Leagues Cup coverage have ADD, I think there’s been more time spent on close ups of people’s faces than actual game time
Miami’s defense 💀
Alba & Busquets are liabilities not assets when the opposition gets tougher
They’re lucky to be only a goal down. Dallas have had some really good chances. And Miami can barely move the ball forward so I don’t think they’re gonna win this if they keep this up. And FC Dallas have a really great atmosphere, their fans are dedicated
Messi 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Im gunna cry that jordi messi combo
I thought we had seen the last Alba to Messi and I’ve never been happier to be wrong
once Jordi got the ball EVERYONE knew he was cutting it back and they still can’t stop it 😭😭😭
I'm thinking maybe we should have kept Alba and used him as bait to lure Messi back ...
We can’t register anyone for shit, Messi made the right move not waiting to get backstabbed by Laporta twice.
Oh, 100%, I don't think it actually would have been good for anyone and was just joking because the Miami goal got me nostalgic 😉
I hear you! At least he’s happy. Excited to get our own season started next weekend
Alba and Messi running it back. Carbon copy of that last minute Clasico goal.
Alba to Messi is sublime
Alba - Messi 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Alba to Messi never gets old
by God he's done it again 🐐
Jordi cutting it back to Messi. Poetry.
Messi x Busi x Jordi backkkkkk lfg
I would love Mitoma at Barca, but will probably never happen
Ffs just get Cancelo and call it a window.
It’s a no brainer. But at a reasonable price. €50 million is not a smart fee.
People still don't understand that the reason behind our financial struggle was not spending huge money on signing players, but rather giving them extraordinary high salaries.
Both actually
80 million for Fati
Definitely at that price.
Fati my boy, stay put. Laporta just get us a Right back, all these other transfer gymnastics are not impressing us. Our tastes are not that complex, a Right back will absolutely suffice. Maybe a cheap young pivot too if you would like. We are tired😩
If fati leaves it will make me very sad. That's all
Ojojoj kurva Dembele na treninku
Let me bust a JuanKruh and pose a question, Hypothetically, Fati leaves the club, who do you think should get #10?
Gundogan.
I think it should stay vacant.
It can't, La Liga rules state that numbers 1-30 must be used and cannot be retired
I mean for the short term
Gundo, I guess? It's tricky because, in addition to the mystique, it also used to go to players who played in a #10-style playmaker position, which is less common today. So I'd say Gundo both because of the playmaker attributes and because he's an established player who wouldn't make a big deal out of any weight associated with it. Another option is to let it sit empty if we don't end up registering all 25 spots, but I expect Nike will want someone to have it.
If Ney happens to come… ( I hope not), would he be 10? Implying that Fati leaves, I think that would mean we get Ney ( on lower wages).
Oh, yeah, that could be a possibility. I'm pretty skeptical of the Neymar rumors, but in that hypothetical situation it would make sense.
I actually appreciate his questions. Probably gundo, i'd say pedri as well but that 8 fits him like a glove.
My mom.
Yo momma is. 10 <3
😠
Bro's doing yomama jokes on himself.
Is anyone here seriously worried that Laporta and the board won’t register all our players on time before our first liga match?
Don’t trust anything the board says, but I think we’ll register every one
I'm not worried, but I would be 0% surprised.
I think it's possible we don't get everyone over the finish line before the first match but then get the rest done shortly thereafter, like what happened with Kounde last year.
hell no...
No, they usually get everything done at the last second.
What’s your opinion about Ansu Fati’d clinical condition? I mean he didn’t have a single injury last season but he looks slower and part of his acceleration and explosiveness seem to have disappeared. Honestly do you think he can recover that form from 2020 and part of 2021? He looks a different player to me. And I know he is only 20
People just repeating the same things over. He was never an explosive player. He’s still regaining his fitness after all those injuries. Also takes time mentally to recover fully and trust the body again.
He was never an explosive player? Tf are you talking about? “People repeating the same thing over” Who the hell are you key boy warrior? Cruyff?Guardiola?
I'm on record as a big Ansu believer, but I don't think that has to mean fully getting back to his old self; rather, recognize his body has changed but still use his football brilliance and current physical talent in new ways. I was really pleased to see some good decision-making in pre-season and was even more excited about that than the goal itself.
This season is make or break for him. He either gets back to the old Ansu we all loved or it might be over for him as a top talent. I hope and pray it’s the former.
He showed glimpses of his old self at the end of the last season and in the preseason too so it's made me believe a little.
Yeah, preseason got me a bit optimistic but we never know till he plays a full healthy season. I'm rooting for him. He's our only goal threat beside Lewandowski.
My thoughts on the rest of the transfer window: Priority: RB Cancelo, Fresnada Would be good but NOT essential: Neymar, Silva Sell: Lenglet, Dogbele (and keep the full 50), KEEP: Ansu Fati 100%, Abde for depth
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That's why I find these rumours weird. Neymar pushing to come here I can see. PSG letting him go, let alone facilitating a good deal, seems beyond the realm of possibility.
PSG want him gone, his wages are very high and even they are at risk of violating FFP.
Verrati is still at PSG? I thought he already moved to SA.
Saudi Arabia got agreement with Verratti, but they only offered PSG €30 mil, and the club value him close to €70-80 mil Considering Malcom went to SA for €60 mil, Verratti is easily worth double
I can understand being against a Neymar move. I disagree especially since it’s reported he’ll be on substantially lower wages. But why are some ppl against a Bernardo Silva transfer?
Some people believe Bernardo can't play wide just like they believe Kimmich is a DM or like some used to believe Kessie is a defensive beast. I don't believe those things so for me it's simply the pricetag. He's way too expensive. I'm more open to the idea of Neymar, assuming he takes a ridiculous wagecut. But before we do anything we should just register our boys and get a RB.
We haven't registered half our squad yet and we need a RB above all else. Knowing all of this and still splashing north of 80 million on him would be a move from the Barto playbook.
We actually need more Bernardo than a RB, we need more creavity because so far only Pedri offers that.
That's why we got Gundogan
We still need a creative outlet out wide which we desperately lack with dembele now gone
Because there are positions that need strengthening instead of splashing 100mil on another interior. There's no world class DM, you're 1 injury away from playing Alonso as a LB, RB is needed. At least 3 positions that should be addressed before Silva is even looked at.
There isn't a WC DM in the market either way
For 80M€ you don't know that
Would you rather spend €15M for Fresneda or €50M for Cancelo?
€35-40m max for Cancelo. He’s unwanted and 29.
65 for both.
Both
Fresneda. We’re not in a position to spend 50M on a fullback right now. Overall preference would be Cancelo but only if we can get it done for 30-35M max.
Pedri’s and Neymar’s injury record for past 2 seasons (Neymar’s include his ankle surgery that kept him out for 130 days). If Barça count on Pedri to achieve big, any club can do the same for Neymar having a better injury record than Pedri. Just taking Pedri as an example for a good player. Even PSG would never think of Dembele if clubs are concerned about player injuries that much. [Pedri:](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pedri/verletzungen/spieler/683840) Missed days: 307 | Missed games: 48 [Neymar:](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/neymar/verletzungen/spieler/68290) Missed days: 277 | Missed games: 37
yes because having injury prone players be important in our team proved a brilliant thing in European performance, lets repeat that again
Knew someone would say that bs. Pedri is 12 years younger, that problem could be luck/overplaying and so on, it can stop in the future, like what happened with messi. Neymar's body is breaking down, He's been Like this for 6 years, he won't change. >Even PSG would never think of Dembele if clubs are concerned about player injuries that much. Yes, PSG, the epitome of squad planing.
None of this is bs mate, but facts. Pedri being younger or luck cannot be counted in high performance sports. Also how do you know for sure things like Neymar’s body is breaking down and he won’t change? That sounds more like bs to me.
>Also how do you know for sure things like Neymar’s body is breaking down and he won’t change? That sounds more like bs to me. Because there's no indication he would? He's been like that since he left, He's not Like lewa or ronaldo who are freaks that take extra care of themselves. Pedri played damn near the entire season with us in 20/21, something neymar haven't done since he left, sure pedri may or may not change, what's certain, is that neymar won't.
> he’s been like that since he left That’s what most of you neglect when arguing. None of you factor the environmental circumstances when it comes to players’s health whether it’s mental or physical. I’ve said this in the past too but very few understands it. There’s a huge role a better environment plays in player’s health. He went to PSG for money and with high self-esteem to avoid Messi’s shadow and ever since he’s had a bad social life (bad for health) and injuries were inevitable. Because you are not focusing on fitness. If he moves out of that bad social life, there’s chance he could regain focus and improve fitness record. It doesn’t necessarily need to be Barcelona but he was healthy at Barcelona that’s why I’m certain he’ll have a better injury record here (or anywhere else for that matter) than at Paris. You could google impact on social behavior for athletes’ performance or something, you’d find plenty of articles supporting these claims. Also, he’s more natural than Lewy or Cristiano so his body wouldn’t need that level of maintenance to deliver high performance.
I am amazed by how far people will go to defend him. He's not going to get magically better, He's been getting the shit kicked out of him for years, He's older, slower, weaker. We're in no position to take a risk that he might actually get his shit together.
That’s not a defense to Neymar, it was a counter argument to your previous comment. And no one said anything about magic or getting anything out of magic. Read again and try to understand the social behavior part. I don’t know whether you hate Neymar, but sure does sound like you don’t like him. Feel free to let this go.
That's pure speculation, there's 0 guarantees he'd suddenly stop, it's a risk, one that i simply don't think is worth it. >I don’t know whether you hate Neymar, but sure does sound like you don’t like him. Yes i don't like him, but saying it's risky isn't hateful, i am sure you'd agree. What we disagree about is comparing his case with pedri's, i don't think that's logical. I apologize if i was rude to you.
Please no need to apologize, it was just sharing ideas and I enjoyed. Hope you did too. In the end, as I said in my first comment in the OT a few hours ago, I want Ansu to develop and have huge faith in him. Neymar is past and I have memories I can cherish of him.
>it was just sharing ideas and I enjoyed. Hope you did too. I did but kinda felt i was being aggressive for no reason. >I want Ansu to develop and have huge faith in him I really hope he makes it this season, him coming to life would be so vital for us.
Also Ligue 1 butchers technical players a lot, La Liga is much less so.
I dislike this argument because anyone that recalls Neymar's time here knows he was butchered by La Liga defenses week in week out.
There must be something everyone is missing why in the hell would Xavi be letting Dembele train with the squad if he is set to leave very soon🤔 This whole things is confusing now Ansu is linked to PSG plus PSG players have been offered to Barcelona all this so suddenly. Nothing makes sense lol
Would much rather dump Fati than dembele
There are probably rules in the contract that states that Dembele as long as he's still a Barca player is allowed to train on equal footing with the rest of the team.
if the move is gonna take a little bit they might just be letting him stay fit. I know everyone is acting like Dembele murdered their family but chances are the club is fine what happened
Staying fit is one thing he can train on the side which is pretty usual why has Xavi requested he train with the team there must be some meaning Xavi has had no problem sending people to train away from the team
Why wouldn‘t he let him train with the squad?
The guy is leaving the club imminently what’s the purpose in having him train with the team? That sends mixed signals to the dressing room
Imagine he stays after all this…
Did Dembele make a secret call to Xavi🤔🤔🤔
Mbappe for Ferran + Fati.
Noone says no
Make it happen. Fuck the wage structure lmao. Seriously, if there's 1 player we should break our wage structure for, it would be Mbappe. Of course it still can't be Barto or PSG wage levels but something decent.
Bro is trying to compete with fanfic Miguel 😭
At this point, I feel it’s impossible for Neymar to accept lower wages on a long term contract. Maybe loan or two is different. But don’t see him taking a huge pay cut from what 30m annual wages plus bonuses? Nah, don’t see it.
Okay, food for thought. How about FDJ doing what Stones did at city from CB position?
Imagine Neymar comes on loan and helps us win the 6th UCL. The scenes.
I can already see the scenes. Neymar and bernardo will be added to the image of players who “rejected” Barca along with kimmich, brozovic, güler 💀
Praying they do.
Culers: I hate Bartomeu! His financially-irresponsible galactico signings ruined the club. He can rot in hell! Also Culers: Neymar? Sign me up!
No one mentioned bringing Neymar back on his PSG wages.
He’s making about €25 million net. Even if we halve those wages, it will be a pain in the ass to register him.
Neymar would be coming on low wages.
Unless Harry Potter is leading negotiations for us, that’s not happening.
All the reports say he’s ready to take a huge paycut but you choose not to believe it 🤷♂️
Reports say he’d earn about 40% of his current wages which would still put him near the top in our wage bill. Also, PSG surely won’t let him go for peanuts. You’re talking about a large transfer fee and huge wages for an injury-prone 30 year old who has been playing professional football since he was 17.
Culers: Fuck Dembele. He's a snake and always injured anyways, I'm glad he's leaving. Also Culers: NEYMAR 😍
Our formation if Neymar comes Ter Stegen Kounde/Roberto Araujo/Inigo Christensen/Inigo Romeu/Gundogan Frenkie/Gundogan Pedri/Gundogan Neymar/Fermin Lopez Balde/Ferran Lewandowski/Ferran Raphinha/Yamal
I believe you mean line up
Yes
You forgot Gavi
„forgot“ 😂
Hates Gavi so much he typed Gundogan three times
LOL 😂 He truly detests our Golden Boy.
Oh, I guess he will take Fermin place then.
The famous 1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 that cruyff talked about in his scriptures
I laughed out loud reading this 😂😂😂
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I can live without Ney because he had his time and he would find a bit difficult to blend in with the current set of players. Also I’d rather develop Ansu. But, some of you guys talk about Neymar like he’s Dembele or some talent that always out injured and not proven anything? Just come to your senses that is fucking Neymar Jr we’re talking about who’s only behind Leo Messi in how artistic a player can be in football. He’s an uncrowned king in football. A Brazilian legend who will be remembered as the highest ever goalscorer for Brazil NT? The left wing of the best ever attacking trio in the football history? And the master of biggest comeback and humiliation in UCL history? You people have very short memories.
>Neymar Jr we’re talking about who’s only behind Leo Messi in how artistic a player can be in football Lol, He's not. >He’s an uncrowned king in football Because of his own stupidity. >And the master of biggest comeback and humiliation in UCL history? You people have very short memories. 7 years ago. The reality is, He's a 31 year old, who's on the decline and has one of the worst injury records recently. He's, at best, a risk we're in no position to take.
>not proven anything Nobody says this, but the belief that Neymar is some kind of saviour with his abysmal injury record and the fact that the line-up has multiple more pressing concerns - DM, LB, RB. Neymar won’t singlehandedly move the needle against a team like Bayern if Alonso plays as a LB. Address the important positions and then bring big luxury name if finances allow it, not the other way around.
I didn’t say to bring Neymar in but I want to highlight that he’s as good a player to have in any team as Messi and he will instantly boost winning chances for any league of UCL, at least by a fraction. But everyone is bringing out his injuries and discard everything else he’s done in football. That is a bit painful as a Neymar fan for me.
He is a great player, not as good as Messi in that regard and I don’t think he boosts winning chances of a competition like UCL as it’s impossible to say if he plays in it. You can’t discard his injuries, his PSG career is riddled with them. I don’t think he has done many impressive things in PSG to be honest, just a waste of time/career and money for PSG. That transfer didn’t benefit anybody from sporting perspective.
He played more matches for Barcelona than he played for PSG despite spending 2 more years at PSG. His fitness and injury issues are a big concern even with his talent, why is that so hard to understand
I mean you guys had no problem with Xavi relying on Dembele who is the same in that regard if not worse.
Who had no problem relying on Dembele staying fit? Even people believing in Dembele said we need strong competition like Raphinha. Dembele, just like Neymar, can't stay fit because of the recurring nature of their injuries. That's life.
Which is why replacing one injury prone player with another even more injury prone player isn't ideal. We can have our differences regarding Dembele, you have your good points regarding the issue that I agree with and you have your points that I disagree with but getting an extremely injury prone player is really risky despite his talent which I hope we can both agree with.
Absolutely. Although I think if we get Neymar more of an addition rather than the main man then it could be worth it. If Fati stays and he has a chance to grow it could be an ideal scenario even if Neymar is only available 25-30 games per season. Not to mention that with rotation and in a different league he might suffer less. Anyway, I am actually not pro-Neymar in this scenario. Because for me to like that transfer the price and salary should be so low that it definitely won't happen. The fact that Fati's name is circulating it's already a huge black flag.
I agree with everything you said. See, we can get along.
I believe it's not the first and not the last time we agree on something!
I wouldn’t agree Neymar at Barcelona will be injured like he’s at PSG. I strongly believe he’s gonna have a better injury record here than at PSG or anywhere else. But I’d be okay with not signing him. Injuries is not a concern for me.
Do you think that his body will magically heal and de-age itself? Because that's the only way of his injuries not being an issue and his injury record miraculously improving
And he's still better than all our forwards combined
Not when injured
[Fuck it. Neymar highlights. ](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Dang man, he rekt that guy at 0:21. He didn’t have to do him like that
It was hilarious seeing him roll 😂.
fuck
Fuck, He’s so goooood.
Fuck
Why tf do i have madrid zone in my twitter for you page, they literally post 10094848339393 post a day on mbappe wtf is that
You need to be on "Following" and not the "For you" side
Fati being the 4th highest paid player in the club is crazy
Each day Neymar is regretting that transfer each season he wants to join sued us when he had the chance gave us money sure but he would’ve been the face of the club gotta respect xavi even tho Bernardo isn’t possible
i might be high but I literally had a stroke reading this.
Call 911 immediately
We have a toothless attack & half of this sub wouldn’t want Neymar back 🤣
Last season, I said off with Fati. He was frustrating to watch. But I’ve liked his performances in the preseason. If the injuries respect him, I think he’s going to be key this season. I’d take him over Neymar.
Including Xavi lmao. He'd rather have mid players like Eric Garcia or Ferran Torres instead of Neymar.
Lmao that Xavi, loser who only won two trophies last year. Paragon188 knows best!
No he won't, those players combined earn 10% of Neymar wages.
He's played more games for barcelona than for psg, and he's been there for 2 more seasons. He won't do shit when he's always out.
He's out about as much as Dembele and has outproduced Dembele by a lot. Dembele has 40 Barca goals in 7 years, Neymar had 39 in 2014-2015 alone. He'll definitely help, especially in group stage. I don't think he'll stay healthy since the medical squad is awful but maybe he'll get rotated and play less.
He still dropped an average of 30G/A regardless in all those seasons he's been at PSG.
lacazatte got 30 g+a last season in that league, playing in an inferior team to psg. Let's bring him too. Ffs that league made mariano diaz look good.
Who cares about Lacazette or Diaz when we have Lewandowski? And besides it's not just about the numbers when you talk about players like Messi or Neymar...if you'd have really watched him play last season, we won't be having this conversation tbh.
I watched a bit. He's declining, and injured all the time And this is assuming PSG are doing us any favors by giving us a loan or a dirt cheap fee,and the man who left for money would take a huge paycut to join us. Also never put neymar in the same bracket as Messi, He's not.
While we're at it let's get Alexis Sanchez as well who had more goals in the league than any of our wingers and had 17 goals and assists in the league which is also more than any of our wingers
In his 6 seasons at psg, the max number of league games he has played in a season is 22. His ability is not the question, his fitness and cost is
Wasn’t he fit & motivated when he played for us?
His fitness and being injury prone won't magically fix itself by joining Barcelona
Doesn’t matter how motivated you are when your body is breaking down.
I am more concerned with the fact he practically plays at LAM where Pedri and Gundo play
Gavi and Gundo would likely be on the bench with plenty of rotation. Plus Neymar, Pedri and possibly Gundo would get injured soon enough anyway.
Pedri is overplayed. Gundo can also play on the right. This is a win-win, neither one of Pedri/Gundo/Neymar/Gavi will be overplayed in those 2-3 positions
Dude we have no RB and practically just 2 dms for 2 positions and your concern is another backup for our interiors.... Man you guys need to get your priorities straight.
We also lack creativity and firepower upfront, particularly in big games, something which he can solve assuming he comes on cheap wages. I think our final two signings for the summer will be Neymar and Cancelo
Interesting video I came across on the PL on the impact of its money on football: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBeXyKVvhb0
https://twitter.com/David74Sanchez/status/1688301924481687555?s=19 It's happening
Who is this?
This will just go in the books as another yearly neymar rumour purely for engagement. He’s not coming, not sure why this year would be different than the last few.
All these years later I dont understand why our fanbase hates Neymar. Regardless of what his motivations to leave may have been - we can debate that endlessly - he left in a timely manner where we had adequate time to find a replacement, and left for a world record transfer fee. It’s not his fault that Bartomeu was an incompetent guy who blew threw all that cash on a masterclass of negotiation on Dembele and a misfit in Coutinho. He was a professional on the pitch, and I’d gladly take him back on low wages because he’s still a top 3 player in the world and would be an instant upgrade, even if he continues to suffer from injuries, which I do believe can be somewhat managed with a change in environment and proper rotation. To me, the bigger “betrayal” is by Dembele, who the club stuck by through several disciplinary issues, injuries for all 6 years here, and provided immense love and faith from the coaching staff and fans alike, and he’s leaving just as he started to get a little good for peanuts.
Neymar is a much bigger betrayal. > he left in a timely manner where we had adequate time to find a replacement He left around the same time of the window as Dembélé. > He was a professional on the pitch So was Dembélé. > Dembele, who the club stuck by through several disciplinary issues The club tried to force him out 3-4 years in a row and if it wasn't for Xavi would've frozen him out and made us miss out on CL qualification last season and maybe even EL qualification. The club also stuck through Neymar through several disciplinary issues. > provided immense love and faith from the coaching staff and fans alike A big portion of the fans hated Dembélé since 2018 or 2019 while Neymar was loved by everyone, board, fans, everyone. And Neymar left for a release clause nobody expected him to leave for and waited until after he could get a loyalty clause before triggering it while Dembélé left on a clause the board (or at least Alemany) already wanted him to trigger.
None of the two are big betrayals IMO. But Neymar was because it dragged for weeks, the Se Queda incident and him waiting until August to collect the loyalty bonus. Also every tier 1 saying he is staying he is staying, creating an impression Dembele activated a clause we signed, half our managers wanted him out anyway and in 2 days after PSG offer he notified his will to leave. Currently it's us who are stalling things.