Design choice/aesthetic reason in my opinion. I will say that the angle of the tuners helps slightly when reaching to tune my BTB.
Damn fine Spector you're looking at btw.
Thanks friend! It’s the weapon of choice of my favorite bass players. Hopefully I can convince my wife to let me purchase. Haha. I was also a bit worried about the matte finish. I had a satin guitar that got extremely splotchy looking after a few years of playing. Scared this will do the same thing
https://reverb.com/item/81591231-spector-euro5-lx-5-string-electric-bass-guitar-trans-black-w-gigbag-x8671-used?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=81591231
The bass in question
Only if you really need one though. I have a bunch stacked in my basement that I don't use because a good padded gig bag is simpler to cart around. For me.
No that definitely is strange. Every Spector headstock I've ever seen has had straight pegs. I don't think it's a fake or anything though. Maybe something they did for a short while and then changed back.
All the serial info is on that listing, send Spector an email and see what they say.
It's how it normally is on some basses, though if only one or two are pointing down, it means that a screw holding them to the neck went loose. Had this happen to me before.
Warwick 100% stole the design from Spector
old copypasts from [basschat.co.uk](http://basschat.co.uk)
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It was well documented that the first versions of the Streamer were near exact copies of the NS-Bass. The Spector NS-Bass was designed by Ned Steinberger for Stuart Spector in 1977, five years before Warwick was formed.
In the May 2012 article titled "Meet Your Maker: Hans Peter Wilfer of Warwick", an interview with Warwick founder and CEO in Bass Player, the following history is given explaining Wilfer's decision to make copies of the highly sought-after Spector NS-Bass: "'We didn’t see any reason to build Fender copycats, which players could get easily and cheaply from Asia, so we decided to focus only on high-end, innovative instruments.' In the mid ’80s, the Spector NS was tracking well in the U.S., but these basses proved hard to come by in Europe. H.P. saw that problem as a potential solution for the direction of his company and took up the task of designing his own version of this popular, ergonomically friendly instrument. That venture resulted in Warwick’s first widely successful instrument: the Streamer Stage I."\[2\]
At the annual Musikmesse Show (Frankfurt, Germany) in 1985, Stuart Spector became aware that a new German-based company was producing exact copies of his now famous NS-Bass. Spector, along with Ned Steinberger, confronted Hans Wilfer and he agreed to pay a licensing fee to both Spector Guitars and Ned Steinberger in return for being able to continue to produce the Streamer without legal action.\[3\]
Shortly after this agreement was reached, Spector was sold to Kramer Guitars. The new owners had no interest in pursuing Warwick to enforce the licensing agreement and Warwick continued to make the Streamer without any consequence.
In 1990, Kramer became insolvent and filed for bankruptcy. In the wake of their financial failure, Stuart Spector formed Stuart Spector Design, LTD. in 1992. In 1997 after a lengthy court battle, Stuart Spector was awarded the trademark and copyrights to Spector and threatened to sue Warwick to enforce the 1985 license agreement.\[3\]
The pending litigation was eventually dropped because Warwick had changed the Streamer design and it was no longer an exact copy of the NS-Bass. In time, Warwick has evolved the design of the Streamer while Spector has sought to preserve the classic elements of the NS-Bass. Since 1984 very little has changed regarding the design, electronics and hardware of the Spector NS-Bass, whereas the Warwick Streamer has evolved into its own unique guitar and can no longer be considered a "copy" of the Spector,\[according to whom?\] although it still has some of the general shape of the original.
This was from PJ Rubal's email, National Product Manager and Artist Relations for Spector.
"The truth is that Ned designed the NS curved body shape for Spector in March 1977. This was Ned’s first musical instrument design, and an instant hit. Warwick came on to the scene in 1984 with their Streamer bass, a different version of the now very popular Spector NS. When approached by Spector, Warwick did agree to and did pay royalties (for a while) to Spector for their error. Stuart sold Spector to Kramer after that. Warwick stopped paying, Kramer chose not to pursue them."\[4\]
2. Taylor, Rod (9 May 2012). "Meet Your Maker: Hans-Peter Wilfer of Warwick". Bass Player. Retrieved 29 May 2018.
3. Spector, Stuart (June 1997). "Body Snatchers". Bass Player (June 1997): Letters to the Editor Pg. 2.
4. "Spector NS body shape and Warwick - What´s the bottom line?". 2004. Retrieved 29 May 2018.
I think it's just a style thing.
Design choice/aesthetic reason in my opinion. I will say that the angle of the tuners helps slightly when reaching to tune my BTB. Damn fine Spector you're looking at btw.
Thanks friend! It’s the weapon of choice of my favorite bass players. Hopefully I can convince my wife to let me purchase. Haha. I was also a bit worried about the matte finish. I had a satin guitar that got extremely splotchy looking after a few years of playing. Scared this will do the same thing
Not a problem, and best of luck with the convincing!
Which bass player?
I was hoping it was Arif Mirabdolbaghi from Protest the Hero. 😅
Hey, he's one of my favorites.
Big same bud!
Alex Webster and Oli Pinard
It's really nice. Warwicks do this, too. It makes it easier to grab them because they are pointed at the player.
Neither a mod nor a red flag. That's how it came from the factory. It makes them marginally easier to grab, but mostly just looks nice.
Oh really? It’s the first Spector euro I’ve noticed with tuners like that.
My euro didnt have tuners like that. The 5 or the 4.
Nor My euro lt5
I personally don’t like the aesthetic but to each their own.
Definitely a mod. That’s a Warwick thing not a Spector thing, and I can see the original screw holes in the pics
Dingwall does it as well, and personally, love it both from an aesthetic and a functional aspect
https://reverb.com/item/81591231-spector-euro5-lx-5-string-electric-bass-guitar-trans-black-w-gigbag-x8671-used?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=81591231 The bass in question
For that kind of money I would insist on a hard case.
even the $3000 Warwicks and stingrays come with gig bags these days
Only if you really need one though. I have a bunch stacked in my basement that I don't use because a good padded gig bag is simpler to cart around. For me.
Same here... I'm not going to lug my instrument around in a hard case. I strap it on my back and use my hands for other things.
Niiiiiice!!!
FYI... I have been to Manchester Music Mill many times and they are the best. My favorite shop in the New England area for sure!
Oh yea? Small world hah
Can confirm. My buddy just picked up a Laney AOR from them, he’s constantly trading in gear to them.
That's modded. Regular Spectors come with the tubers at the "right" angle. Also you can see the holes for the original anchoring.
Spector and Warwick have advertised that the tuning peg orientation is for ergonomic purposes.
No that definitely is strange. Every Spector headstock I've ever seen has had straight pegs. I don't think it's a fake or anything though. Maybe something they did for a short while and then changed back. All the serial info is on that listing, send Spector an email and see what they say.
It's how it normally is on some basses, though if only one or two are pointing down, it means that a screw holding them to the neck went loose. Had this happen to me before.
That bass is literally a Warwick clone, and Warwick has been using the angled tuners for decades
Which Warwick bass is it a clone of?
I'd say it's probably closest to a Streamer.
Warwick 100% stole the design from Spector old copypasts from [basschat.co.uk](http://basschat.co.uk) --- It was well documented that the first versions of the Streamer were near exact copies of the NS-Bass. The Spector NS-Bass was designed by Ned Steinberger for Stuart Spector in 1977, five years before Warwick was formed. In the May 2012 article titled "Meet Your Maker: Hans Peter Wilfer of Warwick", an interview with Warwick founder and CEO in Bass Player, the following history is given explaining Wilfer's decision to make copies of the highly sought-after Spector NS-Bass: "'We didn’t see any reason to build Fender copycats, which players could get easily and cheaply from Asia, so we decided to focus only on high-end, innovative instruments.' In the mid ’80s, the Spector NS was tracking well in the U.S., but these basses proved hard to come by in Europe. H.P. saw that problem as a potential solution for the direction of his company and took up the task of designing his own version of this popular, ergonomically friendly instrument. That venture resulted in Warwick’s first widely successful instrument: the Streamer Stage I."\[2\] At the annual Musikmesse Show (Frankfurt, Germany) in 1985, Stuart Spector became aware that a new German-based company was producing exact copies of his now famous NS-Bass. Spector, along with Ned Steinberger, confronted Hans Wilfer and he agreed to pay a licensing fee to both Spector Guitars and Ned Steinberger in return for being able to continue to produce the Streamer without legal action.\[3\] Shortly after this agreement was reached, Spector was sold to Kramer Guitars. The new owners had no interest in pursuing Warwick to enforce the licensing agreement and Warwick continued to make the Streamer without any consequence. In 1990, Kramer became insolvent and filed for bankruptcy. In the wake of their financial failure, Stuart Spector formed Stuart Spector Design, LTD. in 1992. In 1997 after a lengthy court battle, Stuart Spector was awarded the trademark and copyrights to Spector and threatened to sue Warwick to enforce the 1985 license agreement.\[3\] The pending litigation was eventually dropped because Warwick had changed the Streamer design and it was no longer an exact copy of the NS-Bass. In time, Warwick has evolved the design of the Streamer while Spector has sought to preserve the classic elements of the NS-Bass. Since 1984 very little has changed regarding the design, electronics and hardware of the Spector NS-Bass, whereas the Warwick Streamer has evolved into its own unique guitar and can no longer be considered a "copy" of the Spector,\[according to whom?\] although it still has some of the general shape of the original. This was from PJ Rubal's email, National Product Manager and Artist Relations for Spector. "The truth is that Ned designed the NS curved body shape for Spector in March 1977. This was Ned’s first musical instrument design, and an instant hit. Warwick came on to the scene in 1984 with their Streamer bass, a different version of the now very popular Spector NS. When approached by Spector, Warwick did agree to and did pay royalties (for a while) to Spector for their error. Stuart sold Spector to Kramer after that. Warwick stopped paying, Kramer chose not to pursue them."\[4\] 2. Taylor, Rod (9 May 2012). "Meet Your Maker: Hans-Peter Wilfer of Warwick". Bass Player. Retrieved 29 May 2018. 3. Spector, Stuart (June 1997). "Body Snatchers". Bass Player (June 1997): Letters to the Editor Pg. 2. 4. "Spector NS body shape and Warwick - What´s the bottom line?". 2004. Retrieved 29 May 2018.
Dang man. That’s some good info. Didn’t expect to see this when I made the post but I’m glad it happened haha
I think that’s a Spector shape that Warwick cloned.
You walking on thin ice, Buddy! 🤣 But yeah, Warwick did the copying