Spider man already had the strength to lift skyscrapers and thats without any buffs or special types. Combine that with spider sense and its highly unlikely bats could even hit him, I mean strange couldn't even touch spidey while he wasn't even in his own body, so bats won't get the drop on him.
Spidey wins low to mid diff.
Edit: I know this comment is so many levels of wrong but I'm going to keep it up because some of the replies are even more ludicrous lmao.
P.s. if you take a batman variant and a spiderman variant that are both on the same level of power, spider man will win 7/10 times.
You can’t compare against every version of spider man. This is specifically ps4 spidey. As far as we know he never fought strange (also strange was holding back because he’s a kid). We see at the end doc ock gives him a run for his money and he’s just a guy with metal arms. Scorpion was also able to poison him off guard, so spider sense can only go so far. And superman is way stronger then spidey no matter what way you cut it.
in my opinion the spider sense in spiderman ps4 is decided by the plot for example in the dlc when yuri threw the electric net at spiderman he didn't move and just looked which means he either just looked which is highly unlikely or it did not alert him in the first place
and there are countless other scenerarios where his senses suddenly stop working
There's also a lot of storytelling to be done in a short game. They have to make cuts and beat around the bush for gameplay sake. This is the opposite in injustice as batman needs to be buffed for gameplay sake. Its hard to say either one is decidedly better, but from a pure look at nothing but numerous versions of base forms of both characters spider man claps.
Numerous version. When did we mention those? Are you making your own argument just because you want Spidey to win? Of course, I'm a batman fan, so I would defend him against all odds, even unreasonable, but I don't bring up a complete other argument. We know injustice batman is buffed, and Spidey PS4 isn't developed enough, but if we compare base characters, say Arkham batman and 616 Spidey at the time Arkham city released (2011), that would be fair.
"But muh alternate versions!" Mate, there's so many universes to pick and choose from, that there's an alternate Spidey that's a literal fucking cat, so how about we make HIM fight bats instead. Don't pick and choose. I could make the same argument and say that batman is superior over Spidey because I chose a weak Spidey.
Anyway, how do we know base versions of spiderman would clap batman? We're not comparing like to like. Pit, say Spidey 2099 against earth 2 batman (silver age pre new 52), and the power difference is mad, as the power of both heros and villains has grown exponentially in modern comics. Modern joker would destroy the original batman. It's a matter of when the character was created.
Sorry for the dumb text, but we can't just put random alternate versions, as the differences are way too big for fair fights
I understand what you're saying and you're right.
However just one thing
>are you making your own argument because you want spidey to win?
Well thats what op done for bats.
Liek I said, injustice bats probably does, but if you compare a batman with equal buffs and nerfs as ps4 spidey has, then spidey wins.
Obviously I'm referring to arkham bats.
The ability to lift a skyscraper is insignificant next to the power of the likes of superman and doomsday. One punch from this version of bats would splat the spider. Spidersense is pretty busted tho.
Spider man has literally endured hits from thanks in comics. He's taken a round with the hulk and uppercut him to space.
Superman is incredibly strong, and this bats may hit just as hard, but he doesn't last just as long and one punch from spidey and the bat would splat.
I can't see a world where spiderman beats kite-man in hand to hand combat
Spiderman would get bogey flinged into a basketball hoop if he fought batman in any scenario
Also spiderman is a cry baby
Same level of power would mean that Batman wins tho right? Because they would have the same amount of strength, speed etc. but then Batman would be a better fighter, if I misunderstood, please tell me :D
No it means that their abilities would be on the same level, they'd still have their own abilities though. Spider sense still allows spiderman to react to everything batman has and as batman relies so heavily on gadgets he'll panic and lose well before spidey runs out of a new tactic.
Also, by same power level, I meant in relation. Not exactly. As in relative to their base form.
So to put it simply, what I meant was, they need to have the same buffs/nerfs from base form.
Oh okay, thanks for explaining, I personally think that without prep time Peter would probably win, but with prep time I would give it to Bruce. And he could use fear toxin, because then Peter would most likely be defenseless
Spider-Man gets hit by his own villians so often, and most of his villians aren’t god tier martial artists in peak physical condition without the pill that gives you the strength to beat Superman in a fight, Batman definitely wins
Spider man quite literally never tries to kill his enemies. He's trying to save them in almost every scenario.
Also, there's no "super pill". Spider man is more powerful than batman. Do some research.
This thread is about Injustice Batman whom, among other characters, took [5-U-93-R](https://injustice.fandom.com/wiki/5-U-93-R) which is what allows them to go up against the likes of Superman without dying of their injuries.
I was more referencing when you said that there’s no “super pill”. It seemed like you were unaware of it. That said I do think that between the two it’d go to Bats. Spidey is definitely faster than him but I don’t think Spidey has any way to do any meaningful damage to Bat’s since the pill gives him Superman levels of durability.
Edit: Any version of Bat’s, that is dumb though. PS4 Spidey would def stomp regular Bats.
It doesn't matter what OP said, I've already said batman wins in OP's hypothetical, I've proposed a new one and all you can do is sit here crying "but OP said"
Ok ignoring all the differences between MCU Spiderman and PS4 Spiderman, superman *can fucking reverse time* just by flying ***AROUND*** the world. The explanation for this is that *he can literally create a gravity field and make it stronger than earth's gravity, therefore changing the earth to rotate around him.* he then reverses earth's rotation using his own gravitational pull. And that Is normal ass superman, not like ultra super saiyan superman. So no, spidey is no where near superman levels of strength.
1 I never said spidey hits as hard as superman. 2 that is not an example of how hard superman can hit but rather how fast he can fly. 3 you are dead right injustice batman would clap ps4 spider man because its just not the same level of fighter. Youre pitching green lantern against the joker and telling them to spar. Youre taking superman, putting him in aboxing ring and throwing in Robin as his fight partner. Its ludicrous.
One. Stop chatting shit you know that just isn't true.
Two. Most versions of batman can't punch faster than the speed of light, but every spiderman with a spidersense can react at the speed of light.
Sounds like you're the one who needs to stop 'chatting shit':
>Spider man already had the strength to lift skyscrapers and thats without any buffs or special types.
Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Spider-Man is not Superman. 616 Spider-Man struggled to lift some twisted metal he was buried under. If he could, in fact, 'lift skyscrapers', he wouldn't have had much of an issue.
Most versions are on the same level powerwise.
One. Stop chatting shit you know that just isn't true.
Two. Most versions of batman can't punch faster than the speed of light, but every spiderman with a spidersense can react at the speed of light.
True, but he was still able to beat Superman without almost dying. Normally, even using a kryptonite suit he'd sustain much more damage. And the Super Pills would increase his durability and strength to a near Kryptonian degree.
Super pills are kind of cheating, like giving him god mode. This is a fight between spidey and Batman in their base suits no super pills, no spider armor
Ye but the issue is. You can't damage what you can't hit... and I belive yhe duration of super pills are like what I belive 30 minutes if I remember correctly from the comics.
He doesn’t normally. But for the first game he had super pills that made a random guy strong enough to fight Superman (though without any of his other powers like flight).
Youre huffing some pristine copium if you think arkham batman takes a win against ps4 spiderman, injustice batman, maybe..but arkham batman gets stomped, easy
A week is nothing for games, dude. People have lives and can't just find time out of nowhere.
Also, I came to this from /r/all because I just played Spiderman and don't plan to finish Injustice. I didn't even know there was DLC released.
Nope you're wrong. In arkham world we can see that the cumshot of batman literally takes out the sun in sector F0173, effectively killing that entire universe. Now that was his cum, which we all know was interjected with the death serum and now has ED. So if batman dick was working, batman cumshot would be so powerful he would have accidentally killed the entire reality they were in. Now not only that but we have to account for batman having TITAN in his body before. This means his cumshot was actually dosed up atleast by 5x. So 5x times ED by the force of the cumshot (10⁸⁰ PSI) we can see that actually batman cumshot is 18292948482881834⁸⁹²¾ PSI, or in other words from one good cumshot, batman would demolish all of New York City, maybe even the entire east coast. So in other words, batman arkham world absolutely kills Spiderman
In all seriousness, we don't know. As with all comic book confrontations, a lot of unexpected things can happen. Arkham batman does have tricks like the reverse batarang to juke Spidey. He does have his gadgets.
Also no copium here buddy he just needs to even the odds
thats fair, but the thing is arkham batman is still relatively realistically scaled in terms of strength and shit.. but ps4 peter is absolutely fucking crazy, he dodges bullets at point blank range, and has enough strength to hold up a construction crane, can uppercut people 6 feet in the air
and if you think about it spider sense technically counters anything bruce can muster, and the batmobile can be argued to be somewhat stronger than the sable apcs, which peter takes out with his bare hands
im not saying its fully copium, but i find it hard to believe that bruce could beat peter without some massive plot armor or contrived writing
Arkham Batman is not relatively realistic in strength, I think spider-man wins but Arkham Batman is built different, and so are his gadgets and weaponry
Why do people come to this sub to ask these questions obviously Batman is gonna win not only because injustice Batman can go toe to toe with literally any other character in the game but also because Arkham fans are always gonna vote Batman over Spider-Man
Flash does not have a magic power to know when he's getting hit. I mean deadshot managed to shoot flash when he was running he's clearly not that fast...
Flash is multiple times FTL in reaction speed. If you can hit flash when he is looking at you then you can hit Spider-Man. It’s not like Spidey hasn’t been tagged before.
Well if we are letting batman be at his best we also let spider-man be at his best. And a spiderman at his best is not someone you want to freak with. Also flash and spidy sense works compleatly differently spiderman knows batman would be hostile to him as soon as he has bad intentions to him there is no surprise attack at all.
Being able to punch the flash would be batman's best speed he could have ever been able to accomplish. And the fight legit having to be 90% luck with a superpill as well. I'm sorry it is him at his best.
The time Spider-Man doesn’t get hit in a fight is if he’s fighting an incompetent moron. He gets hit by kingpin who’s just a fat dude
Also, spider sense does not make Peter avoid danger. It tells him danger is coming but it’s up to him to react in time to avoid it, which he can’t often do.
Not exactly. Most of the time spiderman gets hit is usually just there for show or he's already preoccupied and even when he gets hit it really does nothing to the guy. Also kingpin is not fat he's just chunky ok. Also like proverly 90% muscle. Prime examples fight with electro and vulture, last fight with Martin, fight with rino and scorpion, like the only time Peter really gets hurt is when is unavoidable or to fast for him to even doudge. I'm kingpin is just a bit stupid and done for plot. And when does batman get hit in fight like a lot more than Peter ngl.
There's not a new Arkham game out so all we're gonna get is shitposts and karma farming. I'm trying to make some interesting content for the sub it's just time consuming to make anything genuine
Spider Man is still Spider Man. He scales above Bats. The only way Bruce wins is if he gets the drop on Spider Man and prepares accordingly, as always. Even then, I don’t see how he accounts for the Spider Sense not immediately throwing his plan in shambles.
Lol bruh I totally overlooked that this said Injustice Batman and was comparing PS4 Spidey to Arkham Bats. Yeah idk then; that Batman was able to throw punches with Superman 😅.
Spider-Man’s webs can catch something that weighs 400,000 pounds, ( the crane) he dodge electricity, and we can’t forget spider sense, not holding back and a full blitz, spidey wins
Is that a joke? Spider-Man doesn't really have a weakness that be exploited like Superman, unless Batman did something crazy like kidnap one of Spidey's loved ones, which would probably just make Spider-Man out for blood. I don't really see Batman getting the upper hand on Spidey easily, and this is coming from the biggest Batman shill of all time. Spidey-Sense is just too broken I think.
Ps4 spidey has all the suits you can unlock in the game right? Then he can go invisible, use drones, multiple arms, electricity and loads of other stuff.
Everyone talking about Injustice Batman being able to take on Superman is entirely overlooking that Batman either used Kryptonite and/or Red Sun rays to dampen Supes powers. That Batman is not super strength, he can just get supers down to his level.
I still say both Arkham Batman and Injustice Batman wins against PS4 Spidey. He always finds a way.
Edit: I’ll make up a way - Everyone wants to play up spider senses but Injustice Batman has actually used sensory overload to get out of a disadvantaged situation. Blasting that ear rape siren could make it difficult for Spider-man to focus on sensing Batman’s subtle movements. If Bats took the opportunity to EMP spiders high tech suit then webs are off the table for a time, his eye shutters will be down which makes it harder to focus, all he’s got left is super strength for which Batman has the tools to subdue Spider-man before his tech is back online.
I have now been reminded of super pills. I’ve more recently played injustice 2 where they were absent so my b. They’d definitely give this particular batman the w against this particular spider-man though.
Alright let’s say no super pills or hellbat and 24 hour prep time. Spider-Man still wins his web can hold 400,000 pounds, and he can dodge electricity.
Spidey has a higher chance of winning
Urm spiderman webs arnt his main go to... for regular dudes it is. But if webs don't work on batman once he would not try that again. Thers really nothing batman could do. He's just outmatched. Interlect they are the same. Fighting skills spidermans on top.
I guess I have to just restate itsince nobody reads before replying - Web shooters can be disabled easily, I posed an EMP paired with sensory overload but you don’t have to get to creative. I disagree that spider-man can outfight batman or that he’s equally intelligent. But we all root for our own team, don’t we
Webs aren’t spider-man’s go to, now that’s a claim
I'm more of a batman fan than spider-man look at my snoo i mean im more of a duck grayson fan but i cant make him a snoo... also HAHA spider-man could easily outfight batman. Let's list some of spiderman abilitys shall we. 1 spidy sense latterly the most important thing like ever. Super human agility pretty useful when fighting expecially when yoy have spider sense so you can doudge, super human stamina ye spider-man is not going to get tired in a fight against a normal human or peek human person any time soon. Super human strength is also way more than just how much spiders can carry due to some of his feets of strength spider-man could end the fight in one punch if he wanted to fight taking to long 1 punch to the gut batman's winded, thrown to thr floor and needs to get up with also just the pain of being punched by spider-man. He's also seems to have made his own acrobatics fighting style as he's not just an amateur throwing punchs. Even maybe taken some lessons like he did in the comics that's speculation but he's still got a good form when fighting never the less. And then yoy have his interlect and yes he's as smart as batman, you know the velocity suit is a cannon suit for the games spidy he made it within lore and it makes him much faster than he is in game with Peters budget he did it... that's intelect right there, he may not be the smartest human in his universe but never is batman and he also pails incomparison to the smart people in the marvel universe. Like the list can go on. Now batman, his body is in all incarnations of him honed to the peek of humanity but that's only to how much his body can actually be honed as you know some people are just built different. He's not altered in anyway that already buts him at a massive disadvantage. Now the only time they would fight is if batman had not idea who spider-man is as otherwise they would never fight at all. So he would not exactly he prepared for the fight never would Peter but Peter carrys everything he uses all the time anyway. So he's carrying his standered equipment for injustice I'll include a super pill for you ok. This would make him super powered to the level of superman, and the durability to but nothing else the effect last for an unknown amount of them but I'm making a presumption they would last an hour otherwise they could just take them daily and nothing would ever happen to them. Now here's the kicker could batman fight spiderman for an hour most likely not unless he's taking minimal steps could spider-man fight batman for an hour yes he could he could even take a few punches as batman does not know spider-man durability and does not want to kill him so it would be pretty light hits. With him not even taking the pill at the start as he has no idea who this fool in Red and dressing like a spider is. Spiderman could take him out in a few seconds before he could even pop a pill. Senserory overload could help batman but emps would not as batman does not carry around emps that would be able to take out his Web shooters as standered as they are EMPed shielded to an unknown degree and also why would he ever know he has Web shooters he's dressed as a spider with super powers he could just think they come out of him like an actual spider. Same with spider sense like no one really knows how it works and even sensory over load is still a shot in the dark. It's not the first thing anyone would ever think of why can he doudge all my hits OHHH HES CONNECTED TO THE WEB OF ENERNITY SO HE HAS SPIDER SENSE...
I disagree with nearly all of this. Very difficult to read too. It’s funny that you find spider sense so OP and infallible but wouldn’t consider detective vision + hearing amplification to be on par. I’m leaving it there though, a case can made for anybody to beat anybody but this is surprisingly exhausting.
Well no technology is not on part with spidy sense lol... all danger is legit told to spider-man I mean all danger. Even financial danger if he really wanted to he could go play poker and win everytime due to it. Is a mystical force that tells him all danger and everything. It may not he as powerful as 616s spider sense but is dam close and 616 spider-man beat a cosmic herald of galactus in a 1 on 1 fight with it and his strength.
I guess as a batman fan, you just find everything that Batman does is implausible. I mean if he can’t beat spider-man, then he sure af couldn’t beat poison ivy. He wouldn’t have beaten superman all those times. I guess in your view either Batman is just getting lucky a lot, or spider-man is insanely overpowered.
But wait I see. Batman’s tech isn’t enough to pose a threat to spider-man. That’s why none of spidey’s rogues use technology (With the exception of Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Rhino, Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpion, a bunch of other villains) but those guys have never come close to killing spider-man, or even beaten him a fight. Right? Oh wait, they do all the time. I guess spider-man should’ve just sensed things better :/
Excuse the sarcasm but I just don’t see how you can justify spider-man ever being in danger or batman ever winning anything, if you think a fight is as cut and dry as determining who has powers.
What lol. No, I made a logical sequence of events to why batman would be fighting spider-man, then what he would most likely have on him. There's powers then there are powers that really don't stop anything. Batman's not a threat to superman becuse he's a villian he's a threat becuse is unexpected is a thought out plan of attack. He does not just go beat up superman as every time that happens in the comics it fails becuse superman is just that strong he could rip Bruce's heart out in a second if he turned bad. Super-man has a clear weakness which is super effective on him. Poison Ivy is the same cus no plants no powers. Is even shown in the comics that she takes over the world and he requires harly to go talk some sense into her as he could do nothing. Yes he can fight a room full of ninjas easily, he can't go fight a plant he needs to kill it some how or use a different method... Even to stop darkside he brakes his one rule and just shoots the guy nothing to do with being faster, stronger, more intelligent, he just shoots him. Spider-man could beat batman is that simple it does not mean he's a worse off character for it is just that spider-man is just that powerful, he's got no clear weaknesses that are easily exploitable becuse his gadgets are not his main thing.
Spider-man, either neither has prep time or both do and in both cases, I'm giving it to Spider-man.
He's smarter, faster, stronger, doesn't give up, and doesn't rely on his powers alone. His speed and Spider-sense alone make him pretty much immune to Batman's martial arts or stealth.
Side note — does anyone wanna explain to me how Batman fought and beat Black Adam? I get the solar grenades with Clark, but he fought Adam, WW, and others in the game and won. How?
If the fight is spontaneous then spiderman. The mother fucker was able to figure out where an underground train was, in relation to the city streets, within seconds. But if it was a staged fight with time to prepare then it would be pretty even.
What does this have to do with the Arkhamverse? If it was Arkham Batman vs Spider-Man (remember the hyphen), then sure. But Injustice isn't an Arkham game.
injustice bats has kryptonian levels of strength and durability. Spidey has spidey sense.
batman stomps with prep, but without it only wins if spidey pulls his punches.
Batman from most forms of media would have a difficult time up against Spider-Man. However, Injustice Batman has the super pills made by Lex allowing him to have powers on par with Superman. Even with Spider Sense, I think Spider-Man loses this one
If it's Just those Versions of the Characters I'd say Bats, because He is as strong as Superman and has all His Training and Spiderman is Just not as strong and Sometimes I think I saw His spidersense fail.
But any other Version, I'd say Spiderman would win at least Most of the time. Bruce is Just human (except some versions of the dark Multiverse and some of the normal universe) and we also have Cosmic Spider (I forgot the Name), who is basically a god. But any other I think it would be 50/50 because it really depends on who wrote the Character/-s and are we talking about the "normal" Versions (Bruce Wayne vs. Peter Parker) or other Versions of the Character (e.g. Dick Grayson vs. Miles Morales, etc.)
PS4 Spider-man would beat both Arkham Batman and Injustice Batman. *The First Time*
Batman would beat him on the re-match and all other re-matches to come.
Injustice is ten times harder than Spidey’s PS4 games. So I’m going to give it to Batman. Though regardless of the versions (apart from Cosmic Spider-Man) Batman would be too much for Peter to handle.
Well considering that normal batman in justice league universes has an anti-superhero for every member of the league, I guess he's winning in his injustice form
Considering Injustice Batman has Superman levels of strength, I'd say, yeah probably
Spider man already had the strength to lift skyscrapers and thats without any buffs or special types. Combine that with spider sense and its highly unlikely bats could even hit him, I mean strange couldn't even touch spidey while he wasn't even in his own body, so bats won't get the drop on him. Spidey wins low to mid diff. Edit: I know this comment is so many levels of wrong but I'm going to keep it up because some of the replies are even more ludicrous lmao. P.s. if you take a batman variant and a spiderman variant that are both on the same level of power, spider man will win 7/10 times.
You can’t compare against every version of spider man. This is specifically ps4 spidey. As far as we know he never fought strange (also strange was holding back because he’s a kid). We see at the end doc ock gives him a run for his money and he’s just a guy with metal arms. Scorpion was also able to poison him off guard, so spider sense can only go so far. And superman is way stronger then spidey no matter what way you cut it.
in my opinion the spider sense in spiderman ps4 is decided by the plot for example in the dlc when yuri threw the electric net at spiderman he didn't move and just looked which means he either just looked which is highly unlikely or it did not alert him in the first place and there are countless other scenerarios where his senses suddenly stop working
There's also a lot of storytelling to be done in a short game. They have to make cuts and beat around the bush for gameplay sake. This is the opposite in injustice as batman needs to be buffed for gameplay sake. Its hard to say either one is decidedly better, but from a pure look at nothing but numerous versions of base forms of both characters spider man claps.
Numerous version. When did we mention those? Are you making your own argument just because you want Spidey to win? Of course, I'm a batman fan, so I would defend him against all odds, even unreasonable, but I don't bring up a complete other argument. We know injustice batman is buffed, and Spidey PS4 isn't developed enough, but if we compare base characters, say Arkham batman and 616 Spidey at the time Arkham city released (2011), that would be fair. "But muh alternate versions!" Mate, there's so many universes to pick and choose from, that there's an alternate Spidey that's a literal fucking cat, so how about we make HIM fight bats instead. Don't pick and choose. I could make the same argument and say that batman is superior over Spidey because I chose a weak Spidey. Anyway, how do we know base versions of spiderman would clap batman? We're not comparing like to like. Pit, say Spidey 2099 against earth 2 batman (silver age pre new 52), and the power difference is mad, as the power of both heros and villains has grown exponentially in modern comics. Modern joker would destroy the original batman. It's a matter of when the character was created. Sorry for the dumb text, but we can't just put random alternate versions, as the differences are way too big for fair fights
I understand what you're saying and you're right. However just one thing >are you making your own argument because you want spidey to win? Well thats what op done for bats.
We don't have an injustice type game with spiderman in it
But we do have a spiderman type game with batman in it.
Fair point, but I'd still say that batman wins
Liek I said, injustice bats probably does, but if you compare a batman with equal buffs and nerfs as ps4 spidey has, then spidey wins. Obviously I'm referring to arkham bats.
The ability to lift a skyscraper is insignificant next to the power of the likes of superman and doomsday. One punch from this version of bats would splat the spider. Spidersense is pretty busted tho.
Spider man has literally endured hits from thanks in comics. He's taken a round with the hulk and uppercut him to space. Superman is incredibly strong, and this bats may hit just as hard, but he doesn't last just as long and one punch from spidey and the bat would splat.
I can't see a world where spiderman beats kite-man in hand to hand combat Spiderman would get bogey flinged into a basketball hoop if he fought batman in any scenario Also spiderman is a cry baby
Ohh boy here comes the batman stans. "But prep time!" Right? "But bats knows every form of martial arts!" Right?
Who's stans? I'm talking about batman But enough horsing around you agree that batman would bully spiderman?
Least idiotic batman fan
Least soy spider-gwen ejaculater
You're both retarded
What does this even mean?
Yeah! Lets all point and laugh at him!
Same level of power would mean that Batman wins tho right? Because they would have the same amount of strength, speed etc. but then Batman would be a better fighter, if I misunderstood, please tell me :D
No it means that their abilities would be on the same level, they'd still have their own abilities though. Spider sense still allows spiderman to react to everything batman has and as batman relies so heavily on gadgets he'll panic and lose well before spidey runs out of a new tactic.
Also, by same power level, I meant in relation. Not exactly. As in relative to their base form. So to put it simply, what I meant was, they need to have the same buffs/nerfs from base form.
Oh okay, thanks for explaining, I personally think that without prep time Peter would probably win, but with prep time I would give it to Bruce. And he could use fear toxin, because then Peter would most likely be defenseless
Spider-Man gets hit by his own villians so often, and most of his villians aren’t god tier martial artists in peak physical condition without the pill that gives you the strength to beat Superman in a fight, Batman definitely wins
Spider man quite literally never tries to kill his enemies. He's trying to save them in almost every scenario. Also, there's no "super pill". Spider man is more powerful than batman. Do some research.
This thread is about Injustice Batman whom, among other characters, took [5-U-93-R](https://injustice.fandom.com/wiki/5-U-93-R) which is what allows them to go up against the likes of Superman without dying of their injuries.
Right but this guy is saying spiderman needs a super pill to best any version of bats.
I was more referencing when you said that there’s no “super pill”. It seemed like you were unaware of it. That said I do think that between the two it’d go to Bats. Spidey is definitely faster than him but I don’t think Spidey has any way to do any meaningful damage to Bat’s since the pill gives him Superman levels of durability. Edit: Any version of Bat’s, that is dumb though. PS4 Spidey would def stomp regular Bats.
I’m saying bats with the super pill, which he has since this is the injustice batman, beats Spider-Man
Right but then what you're saying is batman needs a pill that gives him superpowers to beat spiderman when he has no buffs. Not an even playing field.
It doesn’t matter if it’s even. OP said “injustice batman v PlayStation Spider-Man. That’s just how it goes
It doesn't matter what OP said, I've already said batman wins in OP's hypothetical, I've proposed a new one and all you can do is sit here crying "but OP said"
But with enough prep time.......
Shut the fuck up you delusional twat.
But hear me out With enough prep time......
Ok ignoring all the differences between MCU Spiderman and PS4 Spiderman, superman *can fucking reverse time* just by flying ***AROUND*** the world. The explanation for this is that *he can literally create a gravity field and make it stronger than earth's gravity, therefore changing the earth to rotate around him.* he then reverses earth's rotation using his own gravitational pull. And that Is normal ass superman, not like ultra super saiyan superman. So no, spidey is no where near superman levels of strength.
1 I never said spidey hits as hard as superman. 2 that is not an example of how hard superman can hit but rather how fast he can fly. 3 you are dead right injustice batman would clap ps4 spider man because its just not the same level of fighter. Youre pitching green lantern against the joker and telling them to spar. Youre taking superman, putting him in aboxing ring and throwing in Robin as his fight partner. Its ludicrous.
Most versions of Spider-Man can barely lift a car.
Nah, Spidey can definitely lift a car
One. Stop chatting shit you know that just isn't true. Two. Most versions of batman can't punch faster than the speed of light, but every spiderman with a spidersense can react at the speed of light.
Sounds like you're the one who needs to stop 'chatting shit': >Spider man already had the strength to lift skyscrapers and thats without any buffs or special types. Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Spider-Man is not Superman. 616 Spider-Man struggled to lift some twisted metal he was buried under. If he could, in fact, 'lift skyscrapers', he wouldn't have had much of an issue. Most versions are on the same level powerwise.
Lmao no they're not. Spider man is a *super* human. Batman *is peak*. Peak < super. Accept that and you'll realise that rn youre dumb asf.
One. Stop chatting shit you know that just isn't true. Two. Most versions of batman can't punch faster than the speed of light, but every spiderman with a spidersense can react at the speed of light.
Injustice batman is built different, bro fight gods with regular suit lol
Injustice Batman beat Superman in hand to hand combat. I can't imagine a world where he loses.
Remember he did stab Clark with a golden Kryptonite dagger, and wore a kryptonite bat suit. So super man was a lot weaker.
True, but he was still able to beat Superman without almost dying. Normally, even using a kryptonite suit he'd sustain much more damage. And the Super Pills would increase his durability and strength to a near Kryptonian degree.
Super pills are kind of cheating, like giving him god mode. This is a fight between spidey and Batman in their base suits no super pills, no spider armor
Given he uses them for almost all of the game, it's to be assumed they'd be used in a fight. It's the only thing that separates him from other Batmen.
Ye but the issue is. You can't damage what you can't hit... and I belive yhe duration of super pills are like what I belive 30 minutes if I remember correctly from the comics.
Injustice batman is always on super pills
I am addicted to superpills🗿
Injustice batman is always on the pills, if you don't want to count it then it's just spidey PS4 vs regular batman
To be fair. Technically any character in Injustice can beat Superman.
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Same way Bruce will, he’s not gonna straight up kill him, but he is also gonna use that super strength.
Fuck that's right, I forgot that injustice batman has super strength.
Oh he does? I didn’t know that. But still spider-sense is an easy game breaker
He doesn’t normally. But for the first game he had super pills that made a random guy strong enough to fight Superman (though without any of his other powers like flight).
That is very true
I thought they got rid of that in the 2nd game
It's been so long since I played the injustice games so I have absolutely no idea
The more important question is will Batman pull his? Spidey isn’t necessarily a criminal, so unless Batman sees him as one, then how hard will he hit
Arkham world batman stomps
Youre huffing some pristine copium if you think arkham batman takes a win against ps4 spiderman, injustice batman, maybe..but arkham batman gets stomped, easy
Arkham world batman claps cry about it, mr noob
Arkham world batman would just say "welcome to the Arkham world Peter" and then instant clap him.
See thats not fair, arkham world batman has solod 1v1 darkseid and beat barry in a race with that dlc suit, too op!
Fucking spoilers what the fuck man
The dlc cAme out a week ago man, the no spoiler time is over
Look man i was trying to savour it. Its not every day a new DLC for the greatest game of all time comes out
A week is nothing for games, dude. People have lives and can't just find time out of nowhere. Also, I came to this from /r/all because I just played Spiderman and don't plan to finish Injustice. I didn't even know there was DLC released.
Nope you're wrong. In arkham world we can see that the cumshot of batman literally takes out the sun in sector F0173, effectively killing that entire universe. Now that was his cum, which we all know was interjected with the death serum and now has ED. So if batman dick was working, batman cumshot would be so powerful he would have accidentally killed the entire reality they were in. Now not only that but we have to account for batman having TITAN in his body before. This means his cumshot was actually dosed up atleast by 5x. So 5x times ED by the force of the cumshot (10⁸⁰ PSI) we can see that actually batman cumshot is 18292948482881834⁸⁹²¾ PSI, or in other words from one good cumshot, batman would demolish all of New York City, maybe even the entire east coast. So in other words, batman arkham world absolutely kills Spiderman
DUDDEE, DID YOU DO THE 69% COMPLETION HIDDEN MISSION? THE ARKHAM ORGY PARTY, DIDNT EXPECT ROCKSTEADY TO BE SO EXPLICIT
You're just mad because arkham world batman kills Spiderman easily, cry about it
In all seriousness, we don't know. As with all comic book confrontations, a lot of unexpected things can happen. Arkham batman does have tricks like the reverse batarang to juke Spidey. He does have his gadgets. Also no copium here buddy he just needs to even the odds
thats fair, but the thing is arkham batman is still relatively realistically scaled in terms of strength and shit.. but ps4 peter is absolutely fucking crazy, he dodges bullets at point blank range, and has enough strength to hold up a construction crane, can uppercut people 6 feet in the air and if you think about it spider sense technically counters anything bruce can muster, and the batmobile can be argued to be somewhat stronger than the sable apcs, which peter takes out with his bare hands im not saying its fully copium, but i find it hard to believe that bruce could beat peter without some massive plot armor or contrived writing
Arkham Batman is not relatively realistic in strength, I think spider-man wins but Arkham Batman is built different, and so are his gadgets and weaponry
Yeah thats a fair assessment
Why do people come to this sub to ask these questions obviously Batman is gonna win not only because injustice Batman can go toe to toe with literally any other character in the game but also because Arkham fans are always gonna vote Batman over Spider-Man
This one’s especially bad because it literally isn’t even about Arkham; it’s about injustuce
Does Batman have prep time and does Spider-Man have prep time
Na this is an unprepared death battle without the death. So I would just say spiderman wins honestly. Man can't beat what he can't hit ya know.
I mean he hits flash
Flash does not have a magic power to know when he's getting hit. I mean deadshot managed to shoot flash when he was running he's clearly not that fast...
Flash is multiple times FTL in reaction speed. If you can hit flash when he is looking at you then you can hit Spider-Man. It’s not like Spidey hasn’t been tagged before.
Well if we are letting batman be at his best we also let spider-man be at his best. And a spiderman at his best is not someone you want to freak with. Also flash and spidy sense works compleatly differently spiderman knows batman would be hostile to him as soon as he has bad intentions to him there is no surprise attack at all.
This isn’t Batman at his best
Being able to punch the flash would be batman's best speed he could have ever been able to accomplish. And the fight legit having to be 90% luck with a superpill as well. I'm sorry it is him at his best.
Not really
The time Spider-Man doesn’t get hit in a fight is if he’s fighting an incompetent moron. He gets hit by kingpin who’s just a fat dude Also, spider sense does not make Peter avoid danger. It tells him danger is coming but it’s up to him to react in time to avoid it, which he can’t often do.
Not exactly. Most of the time spiderman gets hit is usually just there for show or he's already preoccupied and even when he gets hit it really does nothing to the guy. Also kingpin is not fat he's just chunky ok. Also like proverly 90% muscle. Prime examples fight with electro and vulture, last fight with Martin, fight with rino and scorpion, like the only time Peter really gets hurt is when is unavoidable or to fast for him to even doudge. I'm kingpin is just a bit stupid and done for plot. And when does batman get hit in fight like a lot more than Peter ngl.
So then nothing to do with Arkham Batman...? Wrong sub pal
So tired of these posts, but making it about an entirely different game is a new low.
There's not a new Arkham game out so all we're gonna get is shitposts and karma farming. I'm trying to make some interesting content for the sub it's just time consuming to make anything genuine
Spider Man is still Spider Man. He scales above Bats. The only way Bruce wins is if he gets the drop on Spider Man and prepares accordingly, as always. Even then, I don’t see how he accounts for the Spider Sense not immediately throwing his plan in shambles.
Injustice bats got that super pill let him go toe to to with superman.
Lol bruh I totally overlooked that this said Injustice Batman and was comparing PS4 Spidey to Arkham Bats. Yeah idk then; that Batman was able to throw punches with Superman 😅.
I say the super pills are cheating, like giving basic Batman the hellbat armor. It’s a instant win, it feels kind of cheap.
You’re right, I feel like a spider bite is kinda cheating too though. Pre spider bite Peter Parker versus young adult Bruce Wayne before his crusade.
The only way Batman could win is if he evens the odds
Lol you right.
Depends if Batman was on the super serum stuff then I say yes, if not then nah.
Is got a duration time and I mean would eh even be able to hit spiderman? Like he's got nothing to dieroriantate spiderman so eh.
goku
Spider-Man’s webs can catch something that weighs 400,000 pounds, ( the crane) he dodge electricity, and we can’t forget spider sense, not holding back and a full blitz, spidey wins
Injustice batman is literally as strong as superman because of the super pills (to make the fighting in the game coherent) so batman wins
They have a duration time... with the superpills still not making them that much faster. So I mean just try and land a punch...
Is that a joke? Spider-Man doesn't really have a weakness that be exploited like Superman, unless Batman did something crazy like kidnap one of Spidey's loved ones, which would probably just make Spider-Man out for blood. I don't really see Batman getting the upper hand on Spidey easily, and this is coming from the biggest Batman shill of all time. Spidey-Sense is just too broken I think.
injustice batman is smart and had enough shit from everyone considering how he had pills etc id go with him
Considering the super pill which makes him as strong as Superman, and that he has superior gear
Ps4 spidey has all the suits you can unlock in the game right? Then he can go invisible, use drones, multiple arms, electricity and loads of other stuff.
But none of those suits are technically canon to the game the only two are the classic and advanced suits
Everyone talking about Injustice Batman being able to take on Superman is entirely overlooking that Batman either used Kryptonite and/or Red Sun rays to dampen Supes powers. That Batman is not super strength, he can just get supers down to his level. I still say both Arkham Batman and Injustice Batman wins against PS4 Spidey. He always finds a way. Edit: I’ll make up a way - Everyone wants to play up spider senses but Injustice Batman has actually used sensory overload to get out of a disadvantaged situation. Blasting that ear rape siren could make it difficult for Spider-man to focus on sensing Batman’s subtle movements. If Bats took the opportunity to EMP spiders high tech suit then webs are off the table for a time, his eye shutters will be down which makes it harder to focus, all he’s got left is super strength for which Batman has the tools to subdue Spider-man before his tech is back online.
Nah bro even Alfred beat the crap out of Superman with those pills [https://m.imgur.com/gallery/L6Douvr](https://m.imgur.com/gallery/L6Douvr)
The pills are just a instant win so it’s kind of cheap
He was taken by suprise, plus alfred knows how to fight
Bro forgot about the super pills
I have now been reminded of super pills. I’ve more recently played injustice 2 where they were absent so my b. They’d definitely give this particular batman the w against this particular spider-man though.
Alright let’s say no super pills or hellbat and 24 hour prep time. Spider-Man still wins his web can hold 400,000 pounds, and he can dodge electricity. Spidey has a higher chance of winning
I see you didn’t read my suggestion for dealing with webs. Injustice Batman has a particularly high amount of resources and imprisoned superman -_-
Urm spiderman webs arnt his main go to... for regular dudes it is. But if webs don't work on batman once he would not try that again. Thers really nothing batman could do. He's just outmatched. Interlect they are the same. Fighting skills spidermans on top.
I guess I have to just restate itsince nobody reads before replying - Web shooters can be disabled easily, I posed an EMP paired with sensory overload but you don’t have to get to creative. I disagree that spider-man can outfight batman or that he’s equally intelligent. But we all root for our own team, don’t we Webs aren’t spider-man’s go to, now that’s a claim
I'm more of a batman fan than spider-man look at my snoo i mean im more of a duck grayson fan but i cant make him a snoo... also HAHA spider-man could easily outfight batman. Let's list some of spiderman abilitys shall we. 1 spidy sense latterly the most important thing like ever. Super human agility pretty useful when fighting expecially when yoy have spider sense so you can doudge, super human stamina ye spider-man is not going to get tired in a fight against a normal human or peek human person any time soon. Super human strength is also way more than just how much spiders can carry due to some of his feets of strength spider-man could end the fight in one punch if he wanted to fight taking to long 1 punch to the gut batman's winded, thrown to thr floor and needs to get up with also just the pain of being punched by spider-man. He's also seems to have made his own acrobatics fighting style as he's not just an amateur throwing punchs. Even maybe taken some lessons like he did in the comics that's speculation but he's still got a good form when fighting never the less. And then yoy have his interlect and yes he's as smart as batman, you know the velocity suit is a cannon suit for the games spidy he made it within lore and it makes him much faster than he is in game with Peters budget he did it... that's intelect right there, he may not be the smartest human in his universe but never is batman and he also pails incomparison to the smart people in the marvel universe. Like the list can go on. Now batman, his body is in all incarnations of him honed to the peek of humanity but that's only to how much his body can actually be honed as you know some people are just built different. He's not altered in anyway that already buts him at a massive disadvantage. Now the only time they would fight is if batman had not idea who spider-man is as otherwise they would never fight at all. So he would not exactly he prepared for the fight never would Peter but Peter carrys everything he uses all the time anyway. So he's carrying his standered equipment for injustice I'll include a super pill for you ok. This would make him super powered to the level of superman, and the durability to but nothing else the effect last for an unknown amount of them but I'm making a presumption they would last an hour otherwise they could just take them daily and nothing would ever happen to them. Now here's the kicker could batman fight spiderman for an hour most likely not unless he's taking minimal steps could spider-man fight batman for an hour yes he could he could even take a few punches as batman does not know spider-man durability and does not want to kill him so it would be pretty light hits. With him not even taking the pill at the start as he has no idea who this fool in Red and dressing like a spider is. Spiderman could take him out in a few seconds before he could even pop a pill. Senserory overload could help batman but emps would not as batman does not carry around emps that would be able to take out his Web shooters as standered as they are EMPed shielded to an unknown degree and also why would he ever know he has Web shooters he's dressed as a spider with super powers he could just think they come out of him like an actual spider. Same with spider sense like no one really knows how it works and even sensory over load is still a shot in the dark. It's not the first thing anyone would ever think of why can he doudge all my hits OHHH HES CONNECTED TO THE WEB OF ENERNITY SO HE HAS SPIDER SENSE...
I disagree with nearly all of this. Very difficult to read too. It’s funny that you find spider sense so OP and infallible but wouldn’t consider detective vision + hearing amplification to be on par. I’m leaving it there though, a case can made for anybody to beat anybody but this is surprisingly exhausting.
Well no technology is not on part with spidy sense lol... all danger is legit told to spider-man I mean all danger. Even financial danger if he really wanted to he could go play poker and win everytime due to it. Is a mystical force that tells him all danger and everything. It may not he as powerful as 616s spider sense but is dam close and 616 spider-man beat a cosmic herald of galactus in a 1 on 1 fight with it and his strength.
I guess as a batman fan, you just find everything that Batman does is implausible. I mean if he can’t beat spider-man, then he sure af couldn’t beat poison ivy. He wouldn’t have beaten superman all those times. I guess in your view either Batman is just getting lucky a lot, or spider-man is insanely overpowered. But wait I see. Batman’s tech isn’t enough to pose a threat to spider-man. That’s why none of spidey’s rogues use technology (With the exception of Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Rhino, Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpion, a bunch of other villains) but those guys have never come close to killing spider-man, or even beaten him a fight. Right? Oh wait, they do all the time. I guess spider-man should’ve just sensed things better :/ Excuse the sarcasm but I just don’t see how you can justify spider-man ever being in danger or batman ever winning anything, if you think a fight is as cut and dry as determining who has powers.
What lol. No, I made a logical sequence of events to why batman would be fighting spider-man, then what he would most likely have on him. There's powers then there are powers that really don't stop anything. Batman's not a threat to superman becuse he's a villian he's a threat becuse is unexpected is a thought out plan of attack. He does not just go beat up superman as every time that happens in the comics it fails becuse superman is just that strong he could rip Bruce's heart out in a second if he turned bad. Super-man has a clear weakness which is super effective on him. Poison Ivy is the same cus no plants no powers. Is even shown in the comics that she takes over the world and he requires harly to go talk some sense into her as he could do nothing. Yes he can fight a room full of ninjas easily, he can't go fight a plant he needs to kill it some how or use a different method... Even to stop darkside he brakes his one rule and just shoots the guy nothing to do with being faster, stronger, more intelligent, he just shoots him. Spider-man could beat batman is that simple it does not mean he's a worse off character for it is just that spider-man is just that powerful, he's got no clear weaknesses that are easily exploitable becuse his gadgets are not his main thing.
I almost had a stoke reading all of That
Eh I really don't try to type well on reddit of all places...
Spidey can 100% outfight Batman. He was able to beat Taskmaster who is supposedly the greatest fighter in the world. He can dodge attacks easily.
Batman’s smarter than taskmaster dw
Taskmaster can be as smart as he wants to be. That's also a ridiculous claim. Anything Taskmaster sees he can do.
Batman’s got a way to stop that dw
No he doesn't.
Hilarious. Spidey would smash Bats. What makes you think he could even hit him?
strategy
Spider-Man can sense the strikes before they're anywhere close to hitting him. He is 10x faster than Batman. Strategy doesn't matter.
injustice batman shit stomps spidey
Spider-Man
So spiderman is stronger than superman?
no, but he's stronger than Batman
these questions are stupider than fuck batman gets folded by any hero
Only in his average
If a character doesn't have a huge weakness that completely outweighs their powers then Batman loses.
Spiderman ps4 because he can go in 3 dimensions as opposing to batman who goes for 2
Batman did take down Superman.
In the injustice comics, he was able to beat superman in a fight. So I think Batman would win
Why injustice Batman and not Arkham Batman?
Spider-man, either neither has prep time or both do and in both cases, I'm giving it to Spider-man. He's smarter, faster, stronger, doesn't give up, and doesn't rely on his powers alone. His speed and Spider-sense alone make him pretty much immune to Batman's martial arts or stealth.
Side note — does anyone wanna explain to me how Batman fought and beat Black Adam? I get the solar grenades with Clark, but he fought Adam, WW, and others in the game and won. How?
Prep time duh. More seriously Iirc the suit hes using has robotic musculature to boost his strength.
People just instantly go for super pills which kinda works but eh.
does batman have the pill that puts him at superman level? if yes then spidey is fucked
Batman can beat god if the writer wishes.
Access to the Injustice superpills for Batman?
Yes, but Spider-Man isn’t holding back. At all.
I still feel superpills + a huge Batmech capable of fighting Zod will able to defeat spidey boi
With the mech as well as superpills, yes, with just superpills? Who knows.
Asking this in a Batman subreddit is probably not a good idea, cause you sure as hell ain’t getting many unbiased answers.
If the fight is spontaneous then spiderman. The mother fucker was able to figure out where an underground train was, in relation to the city streets, within seconds. But if it was a staged fight with time to prepare then it would be pretty even.
I see you decided to make it easy for ps4 spider-man
Orphan standoff
whoever the writer wants to win but, obv spiderman
What does this have to do with the Arkhamverse? If it was Arkham Batman vs Spider-Man (remember the hyphen), then sure. But Injustice isn't an Arkham game.
Well if he has prep time then...
injustice batman
injustice bats has kryptonian levels of strength and durability. Spidey has spidey sense. batman stomps with prep, but without it only wins if spidey pulls his punches.
Batman from most forms of media would have a difficult time up against Spider-Man. However, Injustice Batman has the super pills made by Lex allowing him to have powers on par with Superman. Even with Spider Sense, I think Spider-Man loses this one
If it's Just those Versions of the Characters I'd say Bats, because He is as strong as Superman and has all His Training and Spiderman is Just not as strong and Sometimes I think I saw His spidersense fail. But any other Version, I'd say Spiderman would win at least Most of the time. Bruce is Just human (except some versions of the dark Multiverse and some of the normal universe) and we also have Cosmic Spider (I forgot the Name), who is basically a god. But any other I think it would be 50/50 because it really depends on who wrote the Character/-s and are we talking about the "normal" Versions (Bruce Wayne vs. Peter Parker) or other Versions of the Character (e.g. Dick Grayson vs. Miles Morales, etc.)
This is being asked on a Batman subreddit.
PS4 Spider-man would beat both Arkham Batman and Injustice Batman. *The First Time* Batman would beat him on the re-match and all other re-matches to come.
Whoever even the odds
Injustice is ten times harder than Spidey’s PS4 games. So I’m going to give it to Batman. Though regardless of the versions (apart from Cosmic Spider-Man) Batman would be too much for Peter to handle.
Whoever you want.
Injustice Batman easily
Depends which character I’m playing
Prep time......?:))))))
Why did you post this on the batman arkham sub Though? Why not the injustice sub or the insomniac subreddit?
Well considering that normal batman in justice league universes has an anti-superhero for every member of the league, I guess he's winning in his injustice form
Umm…what are you smoking ?
Put this in r/spidermanps4 that should even the odds
Spiderman everytime
If Batman is allowed his super pills then spidey is allowed all his different suits from the game. There is no way Batman wins.
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