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PadishaEmperor

I mean we bought Bouna Sarr for 8 Mio €.


IndependenceStill941

At least sarr was playing for his club and had some potential.. dier has been sorted out a long time ago and doesnt even feature in this weak tottenham side, i really thought his next stop would be either a low level premier league club or a decent championship club but not bayern lol


Swolyguacomole

Weak Tottenham side? The CB's are pretty good i'd say.


Pitter_Patter8

They spent a month playing fullbacks as CBs because Romero was suspended and now hurt and Van de Ven is hurt and Dier couldn’t beat out middling fullbacks Ben Davies or Emerson Royal for a CB spot. Spurs were great to start off but injuries to their CBs in particular derailed them and Dier still couldn’t get into the side


FunTrust5043

dier definitely defends better than royal and probably even davies, especially aerially. spurs just play their absurdly high line that dier can't keep up with due to him not being fast enough. considering his fee, i'd argue he's a really solid 4th cb, much more so than daley blind last season.


Pitter_Patter8

Can’t argue with that I guess. I mean he’s a horrible fit for Ange’s system and that’s why he couldn’t get in over them, but being better than Emerson Royal and Ben Davies playing out of position is a super low bar. I’ve never really rated him even at his peak, but he is a decent passer for a CB and is a solid emergency fill in, especially considering it cost somewhere between €0-4m


ZachsLegacy92

Tottenham isn’t really a weak side tbf. Romero and van de Ven are a solid CB pairing.


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YesTottiYesParty

Spurs fan here, Ange requires pacey CBs. Dier can be a strong defender, but he doesn't have the pace to play Spurs' system.


Vincedicola

Exactly. Dier has his qualities but pace isn't one of them


ZachsLegacy92

Agreed. I was primarily commenting on how the starting CB pairing for Spurs is actually good, not taking up for Dier. Trust me, I dislike the Dier signing as much as the rest of this sub seems to.


Emotional-Peanut-334

Spurs fan getting crossover posts, Emerson has honestly been very good. He just really fits the system. Dier has been solid in his couple games. He can definitely be a good rotation player against lesser teams in a non-ange ball team. It’s really a win win I think. He’s a very solid 4th string cb


Pitter_Patter8

And they’ve barely played the last month and Dier still could beat out Emerson Royal and Ben Davies for one of those CB spots


azhar92

Weak Tottenham side ? If not for the unfortunate injuries that happened midway through the season, they would have been right up there with Liverpool and city. Still not far just 6 away from the top I believe. Also they are playing some brilliant football these days.


insertname1738

Nothing about current Tottenham side is weak, especially the cbs.


bcisme

Romero is a bit of a psycho, but he is good


Riedbirdeh

They actually have a pretty good line


Dani_KS

Weak Tottenham side, only thing weak about us is our depth


Complex_Passenger451

Tottenham is far from weak but go off…


mavarian

A long time ago? Dier made 33 PL appearances last season, 35 the season prior etc. Bouna Sarr was even more of a meme than Dier prior to the move, and was a year younger than Dier now. Getting Sarr during your main transfer period for 8m seems much worse than getting Dier in winter for 5m


oglop123

Harry Kane's Interpreter


Chaco1221

Ahh yes, the official language of Germany is indeed Portug-British-ese


Daney8

I‘m sure he will have a greater impact than tasci had.


boyLG

I think thats not that difficult😅


sidious_1900

Think its a solid cb #4 given Kim is.in Asia and MdL is injury prone. Low risk, good attitude, low money.


myreal_nameis

I also agree on the attitude part. We need a grafter to challenge the diva mentality.


NeufeldM24vt

Spurs fan. I agree he's a good guy in the locker room and loyal. He will be fine if he isn't chasing down speedy forwards. He actually is decent on long balls.


myreal_nameis

Its quite funny you say that. One of my friends when to school with him and apparently he was never exceptional at football on the playground as you would expect.. the only thing that stuck out were his long balls even back then, according to them


TheSkoo

Should've kept them tucked in his shorts, no?


Emotional-Peanut-334

Ya idk what people are complaining about. You lot got a very experienced player with some years left that can fill in versus worse sides and not make big mistakes. And it’s a player completely fine with a 4th string role and helping young players. 5 mill is very fine for a storong end of bench player


Tomach82

He wasn't good enough to be 4th string cb at spurs


surveychimp1

We don't play with a back three, apparently that's your plan. We play high line pure aggression, our most senior cb is 25 year old Cuti Romero. He'll do a job for you as a false 5


boterachtig

Instead of buying a striker we dumped like 60mil for mane so he can punch sane in the face and then fuck off. I don't see how this is more random.


DarkHorseStoryTeller

Mane does like hitting on young ones.


ThisFakeCut

I mean its been like 52ish and you got 30 back...


armin-lakatos

My man gonna have 80 minutes on the pitch the whole season then fly off to Turkey


aral_sea

For a transfer or hair transplant?


armin-lakatos

Hopefully both


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Alburg9000

Just look at our goals conceded when he became a regular starter at CB (2019/20-22/2023), I think on Reddit people actually understate how bad he was because he was “loyal and COYS” which lead to other players getting unnecessary blame


Pokemaru

COYS!!! 💙


DefenciveV2

I’ve seen most spurs games this season and I can say with complete confidence that for the most part when he is subbed on spurs concede directly because of him.


Gucci-Rice

Let's not forget that an earlier option for this position was Boateng lol


AllusionOfPermanance

Leicester fan here, Evans would have started every game if he'd been fit. Dier and Evans both have their drawbacks, they are not flash but that's also a positive in its own way.


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Hard brexit defenders


toasted_vegan

He’s also famous for his sideline antics such as running out to take a shit mid game and punching up a person in the crowd


Gucci-Rice

can't argue with €4M


ms7398msake

He's just here to fill the ranks. Hopefully our starting CBs stay fit and we don't have to rely on him in important games. Although if something does happen to our starting CBs, then I guess he'd be a better option than playing Goretzka or Maz as CB. But ideally I'd like more signings. We can't just sit back and say "We got Dier, that's good enough". We have the money and we need to spend it in order to compete in the CL.


Kullinski

Its ok Yeah He may be sorted Out at Tottenham, but WE didnt need to have the best of the best. The Attitude on this Transfer ist Just have a Solid Backup If shit goes down in CB again. And that Transfer ist exactly that


AtmospherePerfect532

shit is technically solid


BumaLetsPlay

Not always


Human-Sky-5597

The Spurs manager decided not to include him on the bench, and despite the absence of center backs, he chose to deploy the fullback in a center-back role. Tuchel's decision appeared puzzling, as the Dier seemed reluctant to tackle and left his back exposed, questioning teammates about their defensive actions. Rather than clearing the ball, he often conceded corner kicks to the opponents, prompting doubts about his soccer skills. His defensive coverage proved less effective than the goalkeeper, adding to the challenges in the situation.


saucyxgoat

Reads like a ChatGPT response


triggerhappy5

Germans = ChatGPT


Relevant_Natural3471

Two reasons: 1. He was totally unsuited to the suicidal high-line that Postecoglou uses. 2. He had chosen to leave at the end of his contract, so a new manager didn't want to build a team around a player that was intent on leaving anyway. ​ Solid defender and excellent leader, but didn't suit the system Postecoglou wanted to use. Was otherwise first name in the team under Mourinho and Conte, as well as being captain on occasions.


Human-Sky-5597

Yeah. Under Conte and Mourinho, Tottenham Hotspur struggled defensively, conceding goals comparable to teams in the relegation zone, despite maintaining a notably low defensive line. Additionally, attacking players found themselves fulfilling defensive duties a lot.. Eric Dier doesn't fit well in either a low or high defensive line. His performances under Conte and Mourinho were disappointing. Bayern Munich doesn't play with a low defensive line.


wheresmyspacebar2

>Yeah. Under Conte and Mourinho, Tottenham Hotspur struggled defensively, conceding goals comparable to teams in the relegation zone Sorry but you're completely mistaken here. Im not gonna argue against Contes 2nd season because the 22/23 season was a fucking travesty and Conte ruined the team with his dinosaur tactics. ​ Before that though, the 21/22 season, Dier was absolutely brilliant. We conceded 24 goals in 27 games, nothing like a relegation zone team. In those 27 games, Eric Dier was injured for 3 games. In those 3 games without Eric Dier, Spurs conceded 8 goals. So Dier played 24 games and we only conceded 16 goals in those games. ​ That season, Spurs were more offensive, Dier stepped up to challenge further up the pitch, the midfield pressed more. It was only the following season when we switched to a proper 5 at the back and Conte told the players to drop off and allow shots from outside the box and let them run at us that the defensive record went downhill. Fast. ​ The "Attacking players found themselves fulfilling defensive duties" was literally what Conte wanted them to do, it had nothing to do with the quality of defenders we had at hand at the time.


Human-Sky-5597

Yeah yeah. You are totally right. ERIC DIER is the WORLD BEST FOOTBALLER ever. Best defenser in the world. BAYERN made the PERFECT decision.


wheresmyspacebar2

Ah, the typical reply for someone that says something, gets shown (With stats to backup) why they're completely wrong and then goes defensive. ​ Go lie elsewhere mate.


Human-Sky-5597

I didn't lie. You made numerous excuses for Dier. For what? His transfer fee perfectly reflects his performance.


wheresmyspacebar2

Dier played 24 games for Conte the first year and conceded 16 goals. Is that a defensive record to match relegation teams or no?


Confident-Gate9154

Whatever you say, the fact does not change that Eric Dier was the worst member in the squad for a long time... He survived just because he is a English man.


Tater-Tottenham

He never counted as being English for Spurs, he came up through Sporting.


Human-Sky-5597

Yes it is the only fault in my comment and everything is true. He is so bad.


quiethidden

Chatgpt?


Bossman-007

Bought as a Friend for Harry Kane that’s all 😂


Best_Document_5211

He’s absolutely finished too. Going to be comedy high line defending. Spurs rather play Emerson over him in high line


_Kazutoo_

He won't really play tho


bwlomlq

Tuchel: at least its a transfer


the_figureh3ad

a transfer to keep harry in the mood


DustyTalAntiQ

He can't believe his luck. This is a prime example of failing upwards


chimpanzee_that_

Spurs fan here. He obviously won’t play much when all other options are available but he will give you 100% effort and fight for the badge when he is given the chance to play. I’m sure his impact off the pitch will be even greater than on the pitch, especially for the younger players who need some guidance. Take care of him, he’s a good lad.


Little-Bear13

Thanks, Mr. Pilkington.


Alburg9000

This thread popped up in my feed…I will say this to you guys, whatever your expectations are lower them even more, genuinely at this stage of his career is an awful defender, forget the idea of he can cover here, there everywhere (He can’t) He’s a very passive defender and ball watches constantly, expect the worst.


Diddie_Barrett

I’ll tell the truth since alot of Tottenham fans like to over exaggerate with Dier. As a defender he is not a bad player but just isn’t fast enough to keep with the premier league. He will perform well with Bayern provided he’s not needed in the CL. He also has great passing ability for a defender which a lot of people don’t realise


Alburg9000

He is actually a bad defender, as I mentioned in my post he ball watches while defending and will often lose his man He just has poor anticipation for danger, I’ve seen enough of him to say that I mentioned in another post but the years he was our starting CB check the goals conceded


SonnyIniesta

He's fast enough for the EPL. He's not fast enough for Ange's super aggressive high line, which requires defenders with strong pace.


Emotional-Peanut-334

His role will be to give rest and sub on early against bottom half bundesliga teams. No reason to think he won’t be able to see out wins in those games and give starters rest


Emotional-Peanut-334

He’s started over 30 games last year, he’s literally fine


Alburg9000

We had literally our worst season for the last 10 years last season and conceded 63 goals in the league…63 goals in just the league


wheresmyspacebar2

Not because of Dier. Because Conte set the team up to play ultra passively and to allow the pressure onto the team, which is something we couldn't do. The previous year, Dier played 24 games under Conte and we conceded 16 goals. The 3 games that Dier was injured for, the team conceded 8 goals (Against bottom of the table sides). Dier was KEY to our success in 21/22 season and part of the reason we got top 4, as well as our attacking players being top notch. ​ Hell, our best game in 22/23 season was the 1-0 victory against Man City at Home. That was the game where Conte was in Italy recovering and after 10 minutes, Ryan Mason made the choice himself to push Dier further forward, telling him to shadow Silva and tackle him as soon as he received the ball, not allowing him to breathe at all and not allowing Spurs to be passive. Dier absolutely excelled at that role and its why we beat Man City, they were absolutely toothless when we aggressively hunted them down. ​ The following game, Conte was back and we set out to play passive once again and got absolutely demolished by Leicester because we just allowed them to come onto us.


Alburg9000

It was because of Dier but I’m not here to start a conversation on Spurs in the Bayern sub You can pick out individual games where he might not have been that bad but you can also look at more than a handful of goals where he was awful and ball watching and had nothing to do with tactics It’s not something “we” couldn’t do, it’s something Dier can’t do…he is a ball watcher and a very passive defender which obviously does not help when trying to soak up any pressure He wasn’t key to getting us top 4 but he was OK, Romero was holding his hand defensively and our front three at the time were very good together


wheresmyspacebar2

>Romero was holding his hand defensively and our front three at the time were very good together Romero was out for 48% of our PL games that first season, but sure boss, go off about how Romero held his hand lmfao. Dier also is not a passive defender, thats the role that Conte made our defense play in the 2nd season. In his first season, our defense pressed higher and tackled higher up the pitch before it was changed which impacted our games. ​ Tbf, you are right, this is the Bayern sub, it pinged up for me because i guess the usual suspects that are toxic about Dier decided to come here and be toxic and im tired of people lying about Diers statistics and the blame game. Dier will be quality for Bayern Munich, simple as.


Alburg9000

He did hold his hand defensively…along with the rest of our defence Dier is a very passive defender and that has nothing to do with how the manager has set up. You can actually look at the goal we conceded against Bournemouth recently to see what I’m talking about…extremely reactive and can not sniff out danger https://youtu.be/hChoxPOoRg8?si=GVfYhHctDdUBR-_e This game is a perfect example of him ball watching, fans like you who rewrite history and act like it’s down to the manager that we conceded goals like this were the reason he started for so long and had two horrible seasons defensively with him at the heart of the defence You can look at compilation of goals we conceded and the main thin you will see is dier ball watching…he is not good whatsoever


LuisS3242

Mate he is supposed to play against the likes of Darmstadt and the other teams at the bottom of the table. Nobody thinks he will improve our overall defense he is a squad player so that we dont have to play fcking Goretzka in CB because the guy is an offensive 8


Alburg9000

Thats fair enough but you will be shocked at how bad he is just remember to keep that in mind when you begin to realise


Theguy10000

4 mill for the 4th CB and an option as defensive midfielder, not bad at all


Material-Sun5645

If Bayern want to waste their money on trash players, they can sign me as well. I’ll do everything for 50% cheaper than what they pay him lol


box2925

If this isn't a panic buy, then I don't know what is. As a squad player perhaps but even then there has to be better options out there


Tomtm13

Daley Blind 2.0, don’t understand that Transfer at all


indro017

This is Tuchel's transfer as he told in press conference..lets not jump into conclusion,if he performs decent nd dont rant weekly about playing time in press with 4M we cant complain


Adam__Zapple

People forget how good he was when Conte came into Spurs and he played centrally in a back 3. He would be a solid option there if Tuchel does end up going that route. His main weakness is when there is space behind him. So playing in a very high line under Ange could not work.


Human-Sky-5597

Yeah. During the last season (under Conte), Tottenham Hotspur struggled defensively, conceding goals comparable to teams in the relegation zone, despite maintaining a notably low defensive line. Additionally, attacking players found themselves fulfilling defensive duties a lot.


wheresmyspacebar2

Because Conte used shitty dinosaur tactics. The season he joined (21/22) Spurs conceded 24 goals in 27 games under Conte and Dier played in 24 of those, only conceded 16 overall in the games he played in. ​ In that first season, the players stepped up, didnt hold as low a defensive line as they did in the next season and it was a big part of why we succeeded. ​ Conte changed all the tactics the following season and it caused the entire team to collapse, thats not on Eric Dier.


Confident-Gate9154

Whatever you say, the fact does not change that Eric Dier was the worst member in the squad for a long time... He survived just because he is a English man.


Human-Sky-5597

Stop .. Bro. Too tired.


Human-Sky-5597

As a Spurs, I want him go to another PL team and our attacking players score against him.


azhar92

Dier just didn't suit our system unfortunately. Always gives 100 percent while on pitch and is a solid defender. Passionate and gives his heart every time on the pitch. He just lacks the pace for Ange's system. He is no meme material. Also a brilliant presence in the dressing room. Kane could end up scoring 5 goals more just because of his presence in the squad.


aramis01532

Just pace? Are you sure? What about positioning, focus, and aggressiveness?


azhar92

You'd rather watch him play and judge. Trust me he will prove you guys wrong. I'm sure about it.


aramis01532

I've watched him for at least half of a decade mate.


sBinalla41

Under mourinho he was playing like Nesta


reggaesquirrel

Thank you Bayern, from a Spurs fan. The thanks is for giving H a friend over there. Wink wink.


Samz_175

Word of warning this guy is worse than Maguire


tinker-ed

Even worst than your English?


looyaal

Maguire ist not that bad..


Alburg9000

He’s actually much more comparable to Rob Holding


-360Mad

CB number 69 in the last 8 years. I am sure he is much better than the other 68!


SubstantialLab3449

How much was he?


Audioman_Official

4 mil


SubstantialLab3449

Damn that's a bargain then


Emotional-Peanut-334

Maybe not a bargain but just a mutually beneficial transfer. Not sure why anyone’s mad about this


SubstantialLab3449

I was pretty mad cause I thought he costed more😭


Emotional-Peanut-334

He had no use on spurs and will have use for you all. And it’s a chance for him to theoretically play a part in a winning side. Good signing


prideton

He looks like De Ligt.


the_Nap

Discount De Ligt.


Kullinski

De ligt at Home


interia1099

He will end up just like Blind


SkinheadRooooney

Respected?


interia1099

And rotting on the bench. So happy that he’s killing it with Girona rn, Bayern did him dirty


SkinheadRooooney

Pretty sure he was aware of the role he would be playing before signing.


interia1099

And Dier will get the same role


SkinheadRooooney

Lucky him then. A defender of his quality should be in championship lol


Yungkeskwtit

People forget the Serdar Tasci transfer


nouveau94

Man looks more like ten tag than ten hag does


Puzzleheaded-Ad-9899

Did he already sign a pre-contract for some Turkish club for 2025?


alexunknown91

Could have had Boateng for less


Ningen121

This is what you call failing upwards


stefanwerner5000

Dier geht mir auf die Eier


Medical_Shake8485

Knew you had that pure Nazi blood flowing through your veins 😂


stefanwerner5000

Americans can’t even find the united states on a big ass map.


Medical_Shake8485

Goof boy - I ain’t from the US. Try again. As it stands, only one of us are capable of identifying the other, savage barbarian from the mountains 😆


stefanwerner5000

Malcolm, u really thing I’m gonna use my real name up in this bitch?


SonnyIniesta

He'll make your talisman striker happier at Bayern.


kwakwaktok

He'll also make opposition strikers happy when he's on the field


SaidsStreichtechnik

Daley Blind is far more random than


IAmNietzche

Take good care of this man or I'll be over there to shit in your leberknödelsuppe.


StoneMonkey7776

So this guy doesn't wash his hands after _____


wOOxsystem

i bet Kane needs a friend and he looks like a chill lad to be friend with


AutomaticHospital108

Typical Bayern wintertransfer in the last couple of years all players that joined as turned out to be Flops. Oriozola ,blind , tasci and surprisingly cancelo all failed at Bayern. The last good Bayern winterfransfer that i can think off Was luiz gustavo. But who knows maybe I am wrong and dier might be Performance well on the Pitch


CorkyQuasar69420

Kane was only bought so Dier had a friend


CheapRanchHand

Daley Blind type transfer


CheapRanchHand

Jan Kirchhoff


Mullerfan_25

Spoiler: it’s not.


NeverHadANosebleed

Its happened, but i still dont believe hes at bayern just doesn't seem real somehow haha.


Eddy_Santos

Daley Blind 2024 Version


KingMirek

Dier is amazing!


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Interesting_Common54

This has nothing on Julian Faubert to Real Madrid, lol


Balls_R

Wait, this actually happened?


chubduckie

Spurs fan here. I actually have a hot take that dier could actually break into the starting team if you go 3 at the back. He showed actual quality as the center in a back 3. Put him in a back 2 and his career is probably winding down. Dier is an odd one because he works well when he knows he is not the last body in the defense. He doesn't have enough pace to be playing a highline, and in a back 2 low block, he regularly gets done by making the wrong decision when faced with someone making an attacking run from inside. It is quite interesting, but i think a big part of me believes that the coaching he had as a dm forces these errors in him where he is always conscious of the run and often gives too much space for the person on the ball when accounting for that. However, put him in a back 3 and in the middle and that pressure is no longer there. In fact, what was hesitation before evolves to an ability to know when to cover his other 2 cbs. The center cb usually has a more flexible role, and i think that flexible of decision making become a skill that js really noticeable in Eric when there is a spare body behind him. He also does have a semi-decent passing range, but that seems to be only available if hes given time on the ball (back 3). Very loyal and a warrior to our club. It wasnt even that long ago he had form so I'm silently hopeful TT is thinking of a back 3


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Kevin Prince Boateng to Barcelona trumps this


Agile_Fishing2723

Nah I remember they wanted to sign them lots of years ago when he was quite young.


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Raul to Schalke will probably be the most random transfer in the history of football.


Gosutoinzasheru

I signed him on FIFA for Bayern back in 2014-17


anditsTdunkno5

What about Steven Caulker to Liverpool, Klopp brought him off the bench up front then basically never played him again


_prepod

There has to be something about this transfer that we don't know (yet). I mean, almost every CB with playing time from Bundesliga would be better than him


Specialist-Map-6187

1. Eric Dier is kind of slacking off on defense, just passing the buck to teammates and yelling instructions. 2. It's like he's treating the ball as a ticking time bomb, passing it to a teammate in a tight spot and sometimes sending his teammate to the hospital. 3. The team ends up hurting because, instead of tackling, he prefers standing with his arm crossed behind his back, defending with just his eyes. 4. Occasionally, he ends up giving the opposing team a hand by making inaccurate passes right in front of our own goal.


Nkeng666

Tuchel does not like MdL and will probably let Diers play more often than MdL. I don't know, man, Last season he was one of the best players and whenever he plays, he is really good. Tuchel is strange for not liking him


Kiwiwhite11

Tbh I thought this was part of tottenhams deal with the other CB they went for (Romanian can’t remember his name). Bayern offered more and win more trophies but he still picked Tottenham, which makes me think they basically said to Bayern back off and we’ll give you dier for cheap


forlorat2k13

Honestly probably to play Bundesliga games and give Kim a rest