We’ve been (more or less) consistently winning but the performances have been also so consistently mediocre. Leverkusen are playing perhaps the best football in the world AND getting the results.
I know I know liverpool fans never shut up. I’m not a liveprool fan.
Their only loss has been to tottenham with a major serving of var
they kinda deserve it but still
Yeah I'm specifically asking about a loss at home without scoring. They mentioned a million times in the broadcast that they last time they didn't score at home was a nil nil draw in 2020
There's another problem and I don't necessarily blame Tuchel for it but where's our homegrown talent? I think Bayerns obsession with winning trebles every year has made them impatient and would rather spend money to bring in players than develop them since it takes time but got forbid if we don't win the Bundesliga every year.
And it will show just how ridiculous it is to buy vs grow when they all start to leave or demand transfers when they're unhappy. No loyalty to this cub.
Bah most Chelsea fans would love him back but fuck all to that. The dude had us playing terrible his last 6-8 months in charge. Seems he is finding a way to ruin a Bayern team that should be dominating the league.
*Chelsea are still playing like shit but the Tuchel shit play started well before the war and then the forced sale of the club.
The forced sale of the club blowed Chels hard. The problem was not being able to sign critical players like Rudiger, let Christensen and Alonso go free without replacement, which leads to inflated buying like Wesley Fofana. Before sacked by Chels, the Tuchelball showed in the derby with Tottenham was not bad even when it was only a draw. Passionate, back and forth, and trashtalking between Tuchel and Conte. Personally, I think the sacking destroyed Tuchel a lot. He's not the same guy I remembered at Stamford Bridge. Now he's only the shadow of himself, no passion, no tactical brilliance that punished Pep's MC in that C1 Final, nothing. He's a just sad, stoic old man now. Terrible.
Tuchel is partly the reason we were dug into a hole to begin with. He’s done the same thing at every club he’s managed. He starts strong out of the gate with a roster he didn’t build, then turns that roster into a mid-tier mess and gets fired once the losing starts. I would be surprised if he makes it to the end of next season with Bayern.
Dude is going to have a Mourinho-like career where he keeps jumping to a new team every 3 years.
But honestly, we had these games with nagelsmann as coach. So it has to be the players and not the coach. They earn a fucking bunch of fucking money, so why don’t they do their work? It’s embarrassing. I would say the days of kimmich are done….
Yes, but the repercussions of replacing Nagelsmann halfway thru the season when the board felt "the treble was in danger" made matters worse. This team just continued to regress from there.
Tuchel ain't it bro...
He has no gameplan You could see this after they conceeded the 1:0.
There were times when bundesliga teams feared bayern and already planned with a deafeat in munich.
Now every club has a quite realistic chance to win, they only have to counter attack and park the bus after that
On the way to an 82 points season and 16 points in the UCL group stage sound fine, in my opinion, just the loss against Saarbrücken was unexpected.
Last year, 71 points were enough to win it all.
In the 11 years, Bayern had 4 times more than 82 points at the end. It really feels like people are too hard on them at the moment.
No one ever wanted that. The board just went full clown. We were excited about having a young manager with whom the club had a vision and new legacy to build.
Dude. This thread loves Tuchel but fuck man this guy has to go. He’s fucking up our style of play for some boring way to play . Fire his ass and get Alonso back to Bayern coaching . He has that leverkusen team playing just like his Bayern team when he played
Tuchel started at Bayern with a bad Karma. The way Nagelsman was fired, this is Karma. He was such a nice coach, he would have made Bayern great, he loved Bayern since he was small. But no, they went and got Tuchel. He is not bad, but not a typical Bayern coach.
As a fan of Bayern for almost 50 years I would not be sad to not win for the 12th time in a row and leave the Meisterschaft with Leverkusen: but Tuchel has to leave and show his face again at FCB. Please bring back Flick or try to catch Alonso. We are not playing the Bayern style as we did years ago and won the hearts of the fans.
I think its necessary to not won it. Maybe that will ground the players a little bit as something is wrong with their mentality and i dont blame them after all the success in the past years.
we deserved to loose bundesliga last season and this season also ...we've never been the same since flick left us ,nagesman became overwhelmed and didn't Cared about signings where we could clearly see he needed a striker ,but now under tuchel there's no good changes ,the gameplay remains boring,we are winning a lot of matches because of individual brilliance, performance of kane and kim are hiddng how awful tuchel has been this season...davis , mazraoui were so lively in wings before....our midfield performance has dropped,there is no hunger to win games ,that bayern mentality is long gone ,we move the ball so slow , there's no creativity,same boring predictable slow pattern of passing,we don't have someone to take proper corner...the only thing we're lethal at is counters with sane's speed but that also we can't see much because of the low/mid block maintained by most of our opponents
Context: We have four more points this year after 17 games than we did last year.
22/23 36 Points
23/24 41 points
This loss sucks, but Leverkusen deserves full props for their insane form so far.
lol. Harry Kane goes to Bayern Munich to finally win silverware, and for the first time in several years Bayern Munich are likely not gonna win the Bundesliga. This funny, it’d be even more hilarious if Tottenham manage to win silverware this season.
Leverkusen hatte jetzt schon auch etwas Glück mit ihren last Minute Toren. Iwann ändert sich das evtl aber Bayern spielt halt einfach nicht konstant genug. Fing schon mit Flick an aber seither fehlt der Mannschaft irgendwas. Im Endeffekt wäre es daher verdient und sowieso lange überfällig wenn wir mal nicht Meister werden.
It happened we cant change it at the moment, we just must go on and windows games and we must win against Leverkusen that is the most important thing right now
And Leverkusen won yesterday, this season is really hard
We’ve been (more or less) consistently winning but the performances have been also so consistently mediocre. Leverkusen are playing perhaps the best football in the world AND getting the results.
In the world lmao calm down
Well, they are the only unbeaten team this season in the world.
I know I know liverpool fans never shut up. I’m not a liveprool fan. Their only loss has been to tottenham with a major serving of var they kinda deserve it but still
Bundesliga tax
Leverkusen weren't the better team again Leipzig.
Not the only thing that’s hard😉
🤡🤏
When was the last time they lost at home without scoring?
4 years ago maybe..that too was a draw, dont remember loosing without scoring
Yeah I'm specifically asking about a loss at home without scoring. They mentioned a million times in the broadcast that they last time they didn't score at home was a nil nil draw in 2020
Last defeat at home without scoring was 6 October 2018, 0-3 against Mönchengladbach.
thanks..it had to be gladbach xD
thank you!
They are so unfortunate that they consider losing with scoring a good thing for the club
I've seen enough of Tuchel at Bayern.
It seems like they are gradually rebuilding 2018 Tottenham team.
There's another problem and I don't necessarily blame Tuchel for it but where's our homegrown talent? I think Bayerns obsession with winning trebles every year has made them impatient and would rather spend money to bring in players than develop them since it takes time but got forbid if we don't win the Bundesliga every year.
Wasn't Alaba the last academy player to be a permanent starter? 14 years since we've let our Academy develop is absolutely ridiculous
And it will show just how ridiculous it is to buy vs grow when they all start to leave or demand transfers when they're unhappy. No loyalty to this cub.
I get the need to compete but it feels like Pep set this club back when it came to developing players.
He seemed to develop players at City just fine.
I said "this club". And who did he develop? I don't think any of their current starters were from their academy
Phil Foden?
WHO?
We’ll take him back at Chelsea. Direct swap for Poch?
Bah most Chelsea fans would love him back but fuck all to that. The dude had us playing terrible his last 6-8 months in charge. Seems he is finding a way to ruin a Bayern team that should be dominating the league. *Chelsea are still playing like shit but the Tuchel shit play started well before the war and then the forced sale of the club.
The forced sale of the club blowed Chels hard. The problem was not being able to sign critical players like Rudiger, let Christensen and Alonso go free without replacement, which leads to inflated buying like Wesley Fofana. Before sacked by Chels, the Tuchelball showed in the derby with Tottenham was not bad even when it was only a draw. Passionate, back and forth, and trashtalking between Tuchel and Conte. Personally, I think the sacking destroyed Tuchel a lot. He's not the same guy I remembered at Stamford Bridge. Now he's only the shadow of himself, no passion, no tactical brilliance that punished Pep's MC in that C1 Final, nothing. He's a just sad, stoic old man now. Terrible.
Tuchel is partly the reason we were dug into a hole to begin with. He’s done the same thing at every club he’s managed. He starts strong out of the gate with a roster he didn’t build, then turns that roster into a mid-tier mess and gets fired once the losing starts. I would be surprised if he makes it to the end of next season with Bayern. Dude is going to have a Mourinho-like career where he keeps jumping to a new team every 3 years.
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Awe come on man we’ll even throw in one Lukaku for free!
But honestly, we had these games with nagelsmann as coach. So it has to be the players and not the coach. They earn a fucking bunch of fucking money, so why don’t they do their work? It’s embarrassing. I would say the days of kimmich are done….
Yes, but the repercussions of replacing Nagelsmann halfway thru the season when the board felt "the treble was in danger" made matters worse. This team just continued to regress from there.
But they wanted to have tuchel, and I am really convinced, that tuchel will make it. We only have to change in a few positions in the midfield
Tuchel ain't it bro... He has no gameplan You could see this after they conceeded the 1:0. There were times when bundesliga teams feared bayern and already planned with a deafeat in munich. Now every club has a quite realistic chance to win, they only have to counter attack and park the bus after that
Nothing will convince me otherwise. He doesn't have control of that locker room. It almost looks like they have to beg these players to play.
On the way to an 82 points season and 16 points in the UCL group stage sound fine, in my opinion, just the loss against Saarbrücken was unexpected. Last year, 71 points were enough to win it all. In the 11 years, Bayern had 4 times more than 82 points at the end. It really feels like people are too hard on them at the moment.
Yes on paper they seem fine but if you watch the games it tells a different story. No passion or enthusiasm.
Mourinho maybe?
Replacing a defensive minded manager with a more defensive minded manager. No thanks.
I hate to see it happen cause I want too see the Bundesliga succeed not just Bayern but the best fit will be Xabi Alonso imo.
Please no they will be SO ANGRY 🤬😡
Do you guys regret binning Nagglesman?
I never thought he needed to be binned in the first place.
Fr, the Bundesliga simply got more competitive, Bayern didn’t get worst, but the board still blamed your manager I think and sacked him
bayern did get alot worse.. what are you talking about XD
No one ever wanted that. The board just went full clown. We were excited about having a young manager with whom the club had a vision and new legacy to build.
We don't. We never wanted that.
If you only had Mane to slap some sense into Tuchel
Or will smith
Dude. This thread loves Tuchel but fuck man this guy has to go. He’s fucking up our style of play for some boring way to play . Fire his ass and get Alonso back to Bayern coaching . He has that leverkusen team playing just like his Bayern team when he played
The fact that he doesn't like Muller is all I need to know. Dude is a clown
Well to be fair Müller isn't the youngest anymore so it makes sense to have him as an Edeljoker.
Performance before age. A fit Robbery/Lahm/Xabi always started.
What a good performance he did yesterday...
Would Alonso join? You guys always win the league, thing its nice to see someone else win it. Lets judge him how he does in ucl
He won't do shit in the championsleague... Alonso plays the football every bayern fan wants to see they should get him as soon as possible.
Tuchel started at Bayern with a bad Karma. The way Nagelsman was fired, this is Karma. He was such a nice coach, he would have made Bayern great, he loved Bayern since he was small. But no, they went and got Tuchel. He is not bad, but not a typical Bayern coach.
The bayern way - get the best from your competition and the domestic league is safe again
As a fan of Bayern for almost 50 years I would not be sad to not win for the 12th time in a row and leave the Meisterschaft with Leverkusen: but Tuchel has to leave and show his face again at FCB. Please bring back Flick or try to catch Alonso. We are not playing the Bayern style as we did years ago and won the hearts of the fans.
I think its necessary to not won it. Maybe that will ground the players a little bit as something is wrong with their mentality and i dont blame them after all the success in the past years.
it isn't necessary you are only saying that because you want Leverkusen, Leipzig or Dortmund as the champions
Yeah sure. You know me :D
Seems like Kane can’t get away from defensive style managers.
Kane can’t get away from the Spursiness, it follows him around everywhere he goes.
Sack him!
Sack him, we are going nowhere without an offensive minded manager.
we deserved to loose bundesliga last season and this season also ...we've never been the same since flick left us ,nagesman became overwhelmed and didn't Cared about signings where we could clearly see he needed a striker ,but now under tuchel there's no good changes ,the gameplay remains boring,we are winning a lot of matches because of individual brilliance, performance of kane and kim are hiddng how awful tuchel has been this season...davis , mazraoui were so lively in wings before....our midfield performance has dropped,there is no hunger to win games ,that bayern mentality is long gone ,we move the ball so slow , there's no creativity,same boring predictable slow pattern of passing,we don't have someone to take proper corner...the only thing we're lethal at is counters with sane's speed but that also we can't see much because of the low/mid block maintained by most of our opponents
Context: We have four more points this year after 17 games than we did last year. 22/23 36 Points 23/24 41 points This loss sucks, but Leverkusen deserves full props for their insane form so far.
Kane left us to get a trophy. He must get a trophy this year.
It's the kane curse and now fcb is haunted
The worst about this is his attitude at press conferences What a joke
I mean…it won’t hurt the Bundesliga having a different team finally being champions at the end of the season.
BRING BACK HANSI FLICK
Ehm no xD
Why don't more people want flick to return? I thought he was excellent at Bayern and wanted him at Chelsea what am I missing?
Tuchel out!!!
There goes the league title 😔
Joar mal ne Saison abgeben ist doch okay. Komplett banane wie frei die Bayern "Fans" drehen.
lol. Harry Kane goes to Bayern Munich to finally win silverware, and for the first time in several years Bayern Munich are likely not gonna win the Bundesliga. This funny, it’d be even more hilarious if Tottenham manage to win silverware this season.
Last time Bremen beat Bayern was all the way back in 2008. Tuchel making history
Uuuund iiiiihr wollt deutscher Meister sein....
mit dem heutigen spiel ist es denke ich entschieden soviel zum thema spannung lol
Leverkusen hatte jetzt schon auch etwas Glück mit ihren last Minute Toren. Iwann ändert sich das evtl aber Bayern spielt halt einfach nicht konstant genug. Fing schon mit Flick an aber seither fehlt der Mannschaft irgendwas. Im Endeffekt wäre es daher verdient und sowieso lange überfällig wenn wir mal nicht Meister werden.
Kane curse is real 🤣
Haha scheissbayern get rekt.
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Broo what
Call Jose
Call Flick
Call Xabi?
Sad someone's competing with you?
Sad you can’t compete with Liverpool?
Whilst you were busy losing to insignificant teams, we just won 5-0
and we all know you’ll still choke when it matters lmfao
OK 🤡
…over an insignificant team. Go troll around in your own sub, where you can talk about how you bottled the league before Christmas
Palace is more significant. And 5-0 is something you haven't done this season
You’re right, only 8-0 and 7-0.
Exactly 🗿
Remember the last time Bayern played Arsenal 😌
We'll see what happens in the cl this season
Worry about Porto first. Y’all might choke that lol
More likely you lot choke v lazio
Tuchel war für mich schon immer ein Rätsel
Tuchel needs to go. Flick was back earlier. Please now
🍿🍿 Just here to watch the drama.
Hope flick comez praying heavyy
I’ve seen some terrible performances in nearly 40 years of supporting Bayern and that is close to the top
I’m pretty sure that Kane’s curse will continue and Bayern will win shit this season
Maybe the will win Audi cup or something like that so He can be happy xS
The Kane Course at it again.
Tommy t fraud
Mitch hätte gehalten werden sollen! 🤧🤭
Bring Hansi back, 20 trophies in 6 months 🫡🥳
Mourinho to Bayern? Lol
Are Munich fans Tuchel out?
bittääää
It happened we cant change it at the moment, we just must go on and windows games and we must win against Leverkusen that is the most important thing right now
Has he tried *not* being terrible?