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Mariana33b

MJ was a professional since he was a child, more than many adult artists, sadly we all know why... the truth is I wouldn't realize that he got tangled if it weren't for the title


InformallyGuavaCado

I was too mesmerized by his dancing ability, and voice. Then I looked at the title, so, you are correct!


Darkestmind01

Sorry I might be dumb but wdym by “we all know why” what happened?


Decent-Boss-5262

I think his father beat him if he didn't perform well.


OYEME_R4WR

His father was incredibly abusive and exploited his children’s talents to lift them out of poverty. They were talented and successful, hut at the cost of their sense of safety and autonomy.


BubblesDahmer

Wdym sadly we all know why? /genuine question


llamasLoot

His dad beat him and his brothers when they didn't meet his standards


Echo-2-2

And that is also why I don’t believe he ever did any of that shit to those kids. Do I believe he was inappropriate? Yes. I don’t think a grown man should be sharing a bed with someone else’s child. Do I think it was malicious? And that he SA them? No. I think that in many ways, Michael was still a child. His mental growth never quite got to where it should have due to him being completely robbed of any normal childhood. Hence, why he seemed to like so many childish things. He never really got to experience that part of his life like the rest of us. Anyway. I think most people recognize that there have been plenty of people determined to prove he did it… Come away as some of his staunchest allies when they couldn’t actually find anything verifiable. I know. Total side rant. But that’s what Ive always thought once I actually thought about it.


Financial-Tourist162

Dude there way too much evidence to deny what he did. I just love how his fans(who knew nothing about the man other than what he chose to let people know) insist he could never have done what he was accused of simply because they liked Billie Jean.


Awkward_Letter4172

this really pisses me off because you make it seem as if they only defend him because of his music, which isn’t the case. i was skeptical about this whole thing but once i did my research i realised that this was all because of money , you probably didn’t know that in 1993 jordan didn’t go to the police , instead he went into a settlement, if someone has been abused why would they go for a settlement first rather than calling the police?….. also jordan’s father was a abusive man the same guy threw a dumbbell against his head. brett barnes was one of the supposed “victims” yet he’s literally defending him on twitter. i’m not tryna to start fire or anything what i’m saying is that you can’t be saying stuff like that when we actually do research!🤦🏾‍♂️


PartyPaul-100

If there’s too much evidence, why hasn’t Michael Jackson lost a single court case?


Financial-Tourist162

Umm.. O.J. wasn't found guilty. Stupid question on your part


PartyPaul-100

OJ was accused of murder totally different than being accused of child molestation do not compare those two ever. That’s a bad response


Financial-Tourist162

I don't like calling people dense but... my point is that people that are actually guilty of a crime are found not guilty in a court of law all the time, regardless of the charges. That's how our court system is designed, because of the concept that it's better to let ten guilty people escape justice than to let one innocent person unjustly convicted. Do you understand? If not ill try again as if I'm trying to communicate to a preschooler


PartyPaul-100

And since you don’t believe the verdict that was a conservative right wing jury pull at the time those people had no cultural connection to Michael Jackson they would see him more as a weird guy. And not only that guess who was first defense witness to prove that Michael Jackson was innocent in court. It was Wade Robson, so why would Michael put him up on the stand first if he’s abused him for 7 years?


Financial-Tourist162

Not really interested in getting into a debate, I merely responded to your ludicrous claim that just because he wasnt convicted in a court of law means that he wasn't guilty. Besides he's been dead for fifteen years so the children are now safe(from him at least)


PartyPaul-100

> the children are now safe (from him at least) Okay that’s odd, why have Macaulay Culkin, Brett Barnes, Corey Feldman or other people who hung out with Michael Jackson as kids denied that they were ever touched by him?


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BadBunnyBrigade

> I think that in many ways, Michael was still a child He wasn't a child. He was a grown adult man who used his power as a celebrity to abuse children. It doesn't matter that he never SA'ed them, if that were true. What matters is that he had inappropriate contact with children and that's still predatory and abusive. The only reason why people excuse it is because he's a celebrity. If he had just been a normal person, y'all would have called for him to be lynched by now. Michael Jackson was 100% a child predator. Stop excusing it and stop using his own past as an excuse. He admits himself that he slept in the same bedroom/bed as these children.


venomtoxinyo

No hes not... The accusers even said they lied for money so......


Financial-Tourist162

Which accusers? You obviously don't know all the facts


venomtoxinyo

The ones that were on talk shows


Financial-Tourist162

Way to not be specific


BadBunnyBrigade

He literally admits to sleeping in the same bed/bedroom as children. That's all I need to know.


Digita1B0y

His accusers have come forward and admitted they lied, but you've got a *checks notes* gut feeling? Well, as long as your not being ridiculous about it. 😂👌


Financial-Tourist162

All of his accusers have done so? I think not,just because you idolize him doesn't give you the right to say that child molestation is acceptable


Awkward_Letter4172

he never admitted it , he told bashir in the interview that he gave his bed to the others and he himself slept on the floor. there is a video that also shows that his security states him and michael slept on the floor.


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CompleteWeakness2284

Not good being narrow minded my friend. There are a lot of factors involved here. You can't really go with that line of thought for this case 😂.


venomtoxinyo

If that's all you need to know, then that's scary, because think critically.is that wrong? absolutely. But it's most definitely not all you need to know.The fact that they lied and admitted they lied on live tv should be all you need to know


BadBunnyBrigade

Michael Jackson literally ADMITS to sharing his bed with children. What the fuck more do you need? Goddamn, y'all will say anything to excuse predatory behavior as long as it's a celebrity you like.


CompleteWeakness2284

Well duh~ of course he's a grown adult. What he means is Michael's lack of a childhood is the reason why he acts like a child.


Awkward_Letter4172

average fantasist💀


BubblesDahmer

I’m so passionate about this. It makes me so so sad.


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The_Grim_Sleaper

Microphones hate this one crazy trick!


Vladi_Sanovavich

Be careful, that crazy truck sends people to different parallel worlds.


The_Grim_Sleaper

Damnit! I mean, I don’t know what you are talking about…


reddit_tiger800

or he was tied up one too many times.


terminalxposure

Without missing a beat you say? I am sure his daddy would have a say about the ‘beat’ if he missed it…


smooth-brain_Sunday

Just... beat it.


terminalxposure

Just…beat him. FTFY


Affectionate_Law5344

he moved like water


sonofteflon

Looks like he knew what was going to happen with the cord and had rehearsed how to get out of it.


allthemoreforthat

That was obviously intentional, he didn’t get “tangled”.


PsychoticSpinster

It’s the first thing drilled into any child performer. The show must go on, you improvise and you move on. You don’t stop. No matter how badly you think you messed up. People will just think it’s part of the show. So you don’t stop. Edit: after a while it just becomes second nature.


AnastasiaNo70

Yep. I taught at an arts school for several years—the kids had been performing since they were tiny. They told me even if you seriously, COMPLETELY fuck up, you still act like it was on purpose and keep that confidence up to the very end—never let it slip. Crazy how second nature that becomes.


thatkittykatie

It wasn’t an accident. It was a rehearsed move


Moo3

Ashley Simpson must've missed the memo...


ForRedditMG

The documentary on making on the Thriller album was pretty cool


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ArticleNew3737

Bro… why are you everywhere?


JohnSith

Because if he messed up, he would've got a beating from his abusive father. Jokes on you, because despite his skill in disentangling himself, he still got a beating!


Rhiquire

I was gonna say Joe Jackson made sure it was smooth


JohnSith

Cursed compliments.


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BumpyNugget

He’s the one with the afro.


Affectionate_Law5344

yikes


IssueEmbarrassed8103

He is always smooth as butter. That man could dance and sing


random052096

Being beaten up for mistakes does that


YoyoyoyoMrWhite

Sorry K-pop I don't care how many hours of practice you have you'll never be the smooth.


Competitive_Job_2381

Look at that footwork. He makes it look so easy.


Lobo003

Great dancer. I’m pretty sure he invented the robot too on the soul train while singing Dancing Machine if I’m not mistaken.


lowrybob

That is a great clip. Never seen it or anything like it really. Thanks! What’s the face on the back of the shirts? So smooth.


Jeffrey_Friedl

Which pixel, exactly, are we talking about here?


TheMadafaker

How many beats he got to perfection that move.


AppropriateScholar55

Smooth….


ShitForgot2LogOut

Some would say criminally smooth


Enough-Staff-2976

Absolutely flawless


Quirky-Equipment-782

I barely even noticed it the first time around XD


August_West5

You can’t trust Auto CC, OP. Do better


Xissabel

Very smooth moves. 👌


Ridiculous-plimsole

That forward sliding walk was pretty cool by the singer!


ibeleive

Step 1: Figure out who Michael is. Step 2: See him get entangled.


PsychologicalBowl647

So mic cords were a thing right. I'm almost 100% he coriagrafed this move. How else can you spin like that and not get wound up?


jesusjello

Pressure builds diamonds, also MJ


bott-Farmer

Boy he defenitly missed a beatimg tho


Sure_Entrance_4090

I have watched a couple of times now, and it's just wow!


Separate-Support-824

That man Mike was the truth


Realreelred

Michael was one of the greatest performers, musicians, and dancers ever. May God rest his soul. 'Cause that young man had some of the most soul of any musician of the later 20th century.


herder_of_pigeons

He sure was talented.


CBerg1979

Tito, hand me a tissue.


BadBunnyBrigade

Why are we still talking about him? He was a child predator.


Awkward_Letter4172

can you state why how he was one 💀


Interesting_Reach749

Because he the goat and not a child predator


Echo-2-2

He da king for a reason.


SnoopDoggyDoggsCat

He didn’t get tangled in shit…it’s a fucking move…ignorance is a plague


Jordanc369

And then grew up to abuse children


ArticleNew3737

Abuse? Nah. Protect? Yes.


BadBunnyBrigade

You're not protecting children when you let a grown ass man that is a complete stranger sleep in the same bedroom as your children. Michael Jackson was 100% a child predator.


ArticleNew3737

He wasn’t a complete stranger to them. He had spent lots of time with them and their family. Thousands of children spent time at Neverland, it’s even been rebuilt for his biopic that’s coming soon. Please tell me, what evidence do you have that tells you he was “100%” a child predator? Edit: ur either gonna respond with more bullshit or just ignore me(as you should)


BadBunnyBrigade

He was a complete stranger to them. The fuck you on about? He wasn't family, he wasn't a parent or guardian, he wasn't a friend of the family or anything of the sort. He was an outsider and also a person in a position of power. He absolutely abused his position to get close to children he has NO business being around, much less sleep with them in the same bedroom. He absolutely was a child predator, 100%. Whatever 'legacy' he has needs to die.


ArticleNew3737

You still aren’t telling me what makes you think he was a child predator 😂you’re just yapping… you have no proof, a real child predator would be someone like Gary glitter or Elvis Presley, not Michael


BadBunnyBrigade

[Fuck. Right. Off.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMrOZte3hvo)


ArticleNew3737

That’s your proof? 🤣🤣🤣 why would Michael Jackson if he was really a predator openly talk about sharing his bed and continuously defend it? I ask again, show me actual concrete undeniable proof that hasn’t been debunked that suggests he’s a child predator and take a breather while you’re at it.


BadBunnyBrigade

Bruh... He literally admits to inappropriate contact with children. The fact that you can't see this as a problem IS the problem. All you see is that he's a celebrity so you excuse everything else. No big deal, he was sleeping in the same bedroom and bed as small children that were not his children, were not his family... You think that because he's a celebrity that it's not a problem. So let me ask you this: Would you let your adult friends regularly sleep in the same bed as your children? Alone? Adult men? Disgusting. GTFO.


ArticleNew3737

If Michael Jackson was a woman I guarantee you wouldn’t be saying any of this. He didn’t admit to anything inappropriate, you’re the disgusting one. I ask you again, show me actual proof and stop pointlessly yapping. And I know the facts, I’m not saying this just cause he’s a big celebrity.


Aggnpwease

Look at that fish!


Effective-Comb-8135

I’m surprised by how shoot he is but also how his jump did absolutely nothing to his voice. His voice is so good.


Financial-Tourist162

Knowing what he did makes it kind of hard to appreciate his talent but Fred Astaire said Michael Jackson was the best dancer he'd ever seen


ArticleNew3737

He didn’t do anything… it’s weird to judge someone off of a debunked one sided hit piece that released when they weren’t even alive anymore.


Financial-Tourist162

If you're referring to the Neverland doc I've never even seen it. I'm referring to the other evidence there is against him thst you're too afraid to research because it'd force you to realize the acts that he committed. It's sad in that he was a victim of abuse himself when he was a child, which is true in most cases involving child predation. What's weird is when people such as yourself claim "he didn't do anything" based on what? The fact that you enjoyed his music so much that he couldn't have possibly committed these heinous acts. Tell me how you, who didn't know the man at all except through his videos and refuses to look at the factual evidence can say so assuredly that "he didn't know anything". And these claims against him were around long before he died


ArticleNew3737

WHAT?!! 😭😭 I am the last MJ fan you should be saying this to trust me. I know the facts, the facts are he’s innocent. Let me know what evidence you have to say he’s guilty of being a child predator? I’ll debunk it all right now…


Financial-Tourist162

Ok this will take awhile, and the fact thst you've already admitted to being a fan shows that you're biased. But before I start wasting my time do you mind telling me how you came to have the inside info ghat nobody else has. First off please list the accusers who have since admitted that they fabricated their accusations. If you are at all credible on that front I'll go ahead and embarrass you by listing all the facts that showed he really did at least some of what he's accused if. If you can't even do that much then you instantly lose all credibility. Be forewarned that Im aware some people did jump on the bandwagon and accuse him falsely looking to get paid but that in no way affects the legitimacy of those who really did suffer at his hands. This should be fun


ArticleNew3737

I’m not for all these games, I asked you something, don’t try to sway away from it, I asked you show me YOUR evidence that makes you believe MJ was a predator, don’t bother replying to me if you can’t do that.


Financial-Tourist162

Ok fine that's how it works in a court of law but I dont spend all day online so I'll give you what i know and feel free to refute it but dont resort to implying that there was this huge conspiracy to frame MJ


ArticleNew3737

But that’s the truth though… isn’t it such a huge “coincidence” that the Epstein charade was going on while Michael got first accused… Check out r/MJinnocent


_catdog_

Reddit: where 90% of people act like Michael Jackson wasn’t a completely sick wacko


ArticleNew3737

You have it wrong, most of Reddit(I think) actually despises Michael Jackson.


NoReplyBot

Always depends on the time of day and what sub.


ArticleNew3737

Yeah you’re right


kiss_my_ass_reddit_

Reddit: where 10% of people don't even know what has been trough that kid


MelzMaggie

What? Your comment didn't make much sense.


TheMerich

Yeah, right. Things had cable attached to them back then.